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 The scene at Oikos University on Monday.
April 2nd, 2012
06:39 PM ET
Site of California shooting is Korean Christian collegeBy Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor (CNN) - A California college where authorities say that seven people were shot dead on Monday is a religious school that caters to the burgeoning Korean American Christian community. The number-one objective of Oikos University, in Oakland, California, is "to demonstrate a comprehensive knowledge of the Bible and an understanding of Christian doctrine," according to the school's website. Its number-two objective: "To develop an appreciation for the Korean and Korean-American church denomination heritage." The school is accredited to offer just a half-dozen degrees, according to California's bureau for Private Postsecondary Education, including an associate's degree in nursing, a bachelor's in biblical studies, a master's in Asian medicine and a doctorate in ministry. "Oikos University has a very specific goal and mission to offer education programs in the area of religious studies, music, and vocational nursing," the school's site says. Andrew Sung Park, a professor of theology and ethics at United Theological Seminary in Ohio, says that Korean-American Christianity probably represents the fastest-growing part of the Asian American religious landscape. The community is largely a legacy of American evangelizing in South Korea, which is now home to the world's largest Christian church. Most of 1.3 million Korean Americans are Christian, Park said, and they generally subscribe to an evangelical Protestant version of the faith. "There is a saying that when Koreans get together in the United States, they establish churches first," says Park, who is Korean-American. "Some other Asians are more concerned with businesses or finances, but Koreans care about religion and about Christianity." The school's focus on Oriental medicine, including classes on acupuncture and herbal medicine, speaks to the Koreans' holistic outlook on life, blending Eastern approaches to health and medicine with Western religion, even mixing Christianity with Korea's shamanistic traditions, Park says. "Koreans are very much interested in healing, faith healing, medical healing, spiritual healing... there is a oneness," he says. Oikos University, which takes its name from the Greek word for "house," espouses a literal view of the Bible, which the school's site describes as "infallibly and uniquely authoritative and free from error of any sort in all matters." The site promotes "the literal existence of Adam and Eve as the progenitors of all people, the literal fall and resultant divine curse on the creation, the worldwide cataclysmic deluge, and the origin of nations and languages at the tower of Babel." "We believe the realities of heaven and hell," the site says. –CNN's Eric Marrapodi contributed to this story.
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Christian teachers could use a little encouragement these days – not just at the Korean Christian college but in all kinds of schools. The following art is designed to help encourage Christian teachers and pastors and can be given as gifts on Teacher Appreciation Day – May 8, 2012.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/49509398@N02/sets/72157629801340717/
God bless Christian teachers
Koreans and guns just don't mix well. BTW, this shooting had nothing to do with religion.
You actually make it appear so easy with your presentation however I in finding this topic to be really one thing which I feel I would by no means understand. It sort of feels too complex and extremely wide for me. I'm taking a look forward to your subsequent submit, I will try to get the hold of it!
When you think about it. The delsuional belief guided the 7 to their death. If they had not been so delusional they wouldnt have been attending the absurd college. Or God's hand guided them to their death and fate and he enjoyed the slaughter.
Fraudulent just sayin alert
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To the original Just Sayin – don't worry, we can tell the difference. The fake Just Sayin makes cleverer comments.
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LOL shame HeavenSent and her sidekick do not have a personality.
Fraudulent and flatulent just sayin adds lying to its posts. God bless
Following is a map or Irreligion (no religious practice) worldwide:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Irreligion_map.png
Look at how the light colors (very religious countries) correspond to the most violent parts of the world. Also, highest poverty, poorest education, etc. Makes ya think (or it should).
Another take:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Atheists_Agnostics_Zuckerman_en.svg
Notice how the US stands out as one of the few modern industrialized countries with the highest rates of belief. We are at a crossroads.
Prayer really changes things
Prayer doesn’t not; you are so full of crap and lies. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!".
I do not even know the way I finished up here, however I assumed this post was once good. I do not understand who you might be but certainly you are going to a famous blogger should you are not already. Cheers!
I attended a Christian University that had a large Korean exchange student population. As a general rule, the Koreans kept to themselves and I know of few Americans who even tried to get to know them and less who succeded. I had the fortunate experience of being assigned as a tutor to a young Korean woman who introduced me to her culture. Despite many disagreements in ideology I considered her to be a wonderful person. I found it most interesting that she and her friends were much more conservative than most American Christians. She was especially concerned about my willingness to question church leaders and Christian dogma. One of my greatest regrets of my college career was not putting more effort into getting to know more exchange students.
I trust you banged her like a screen door.
This shooting puts a damper on their planned Easter Play on campus.
another fraud alert God bless
I meant if any of the 7 were in the play
Praise Jesus! God's plan was carried out!
and another fraud alert God bless
This happened either as a result of mental illness which was not treated, or an upbringing that failed to teach this 40 year old man how to negotiate in a world that is not centered around him.
The world is centered around all Christians.
"The world is centered around all Christians."
They only make up 33% of the world so that is a complete lie.
Forgive me, I assumed most understood that I was talking in the context of the Christians and world how they see. *rolling eyes*
Fraud alert God bless
To the original Just Sayin – don't worry, we can tell the difference. The fake Just Sayin makes cleverer comments.
It doesn't have anything to do with religion. It is due to mental disorder or just plain insanity. I am sure some students must have been praying while it was happening. God listens but doesn't answer!
God answered the prayer sof th egood Christians. The bad ones died.
another fraud alert . God bless
Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things
"Prayer changes things"
Prayer doesn’t not; you are so full of crap and lies. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!
I think statistics would prove you wrong, unless of course, you are referring to the deaths of atheists that occur at the hands of religious leaders and followers. Statistically, more deaths have occurred as a result of religious persecution in the name of God, and wars, in the name of God, and torture, in the name of God, and slavery of other religions, in the name of God. Think about it. Religion is not healthy for children and other living things.
Atheists have murdered more people in the last 100 years than were killed in all the previous centuries. Joe Stalin murdered more than 24 million of his own people not counting war dead.
Stalin was associated with the Georgian Orthodox seminary.
"Atheists have murdered more people in the last 100 years than were killed in all the previous centuries. Joe Stalin murdered more than 24 million of his own people not counting war dead.'
Religion throughout human history has killed 480 million, your point is moot.
Relax folks, this shooting was all part of my plan.
Amen!
I have had terrible gas for two days now.
Put a diaper on like Jesus did and just let it go...you will feel better. Praise Jesus!
Only seven people?
I guess this shows how incompetent Korean Christians are with a gun in their hand. I would have been able to empty several clips with ease.
Those silly Koreans! They don't know shlt about shooting. We'd better take over for them and wipe them out properly.
They seem to be asking for it, according to the article.
Or we could save some time by giving them some competent firearms training and letting them go at it.
They are clearly too stupid to think of it themselves. They hate life, clearly think all of humanity is cursed, and all that vicious nastiness, so they need to be taken out of the picture one way or the other. There is nothing they can possibly contribute to the human race if they view everyone as cursed. And they think suffering is good too.
They are insane and should be removed and possibly wiped out. Removed from society at the very least to protect the rest of us.
But here we have some incompetent shooter wasting everyone's time and getting our hopes up until we see just how few the shooter was able to kill. What a shame. I'm really disappointed here. Sick crazies should be "helped along" in wiping themselves out of existence whenever possible.
In fact, all fundamentalists should be taken out and shot right away. It's what they want, what God wants, and we can easily find a Bible passage showing how this is true and why God wants all of them to die.
Let's help God out and help these people to end their own cursed suffering! And don't forget about all the other fundamentalists in the world! They all need to be given to God as soon as possible as their reward for being fundamentalists!
Shoot everyone! Heck, why don't we just start making some nerve gas and wiping out all people in the world anyway?
We're all cursed, right? Let's show God that we now understand much better what being cursed means! Let's all die!
You guys first. I'm going to sit around cursed for a bit before I go. Go ahead. Don't wait up for me! God wants you to die!
Jed, step away from the computer and go get help.. Your illness is showing.
The only help I'm going to get is to see people like you dead whenever possible. God wants you to die. You are cursed by God.
So go die, already. Go on. Go kill yourself already. Your God cursed you to death so GO DIE!
You want to help me, right? Then DIE as soon as possible, please. I don't follow your god so that means I'm not cursed and don't need to die for any particular reason. I am not a sinner, you are. YOU should be the one to die, not me!
Jed, I feel sorry for you. 7 people died and all you can feel is hate. Either someone hurt you really bad in the past or you are a complete psychopath. Either way, you need help.
Please get help.
Aint it funny how so many Christians were quick to imply that rain at the Reason Rally was God's judgment, and yet they are strangely quiet when it comes to shooting rampages at fundamentalist schools?
Well duh, when something bad happens to atheists, namely they get slightly damp, god is punishing them for being unbelievers. This on the other hand is god working in mysterious ways....
Biff! How's it going? Still pining for Maggie?
Great point.. I don't know how many christian events I've been to or seen going on in the rain, but it's enough to be sure christians don't consider rain to be a spiritual deterrent.. Then the comments last week.. Really?.
And then we get the prayer advocates who claim that imagining in particular patterns causes magical forces to be unleashed in your favor–who can never seem to get their imaging to ever do anything.. Yes, their answer is, "it was god's will.". It's the only answer they can provide, because god is only good at explaining what you can't make sense of.. No, this shooting doesn't affect the viability of any god, but it doesn't help the case for any god, either.. That's exactly the point; weird sh!t happens.. God is either invisible or doesn't exist; take your pick.
Prayer changes things .
~No it doesn't you are so full of crap and lies. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs.!`.. . .. ..
I've been pwaing many years for only two things. God doesn't seem to hear me. I haven't gwown one single hair on my head, and I still can't shoot that wascally wabbit.
"Oikos University, which takes its name from the Greek word for "house," espouses a literal view of the Bible, which the school's site describes as "infallibly and uniquely authoritative and free from error of any sort in all matters."
The site promotes "the literal existence of Adam and Eve as the progenitors of all people, the literal fall and resultant divine curse on the creation, the worldwide cataclysmic deluge, and the origin of nations and languages at the tower of Babel."
"We believe the realities of heaven and hell," the site says.
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God's plan was carried out on their campus.
"God's plan was carried out on their campus."
That has got to be the stupidest thing ever, having a lunatic running around killing people was your god's plan! Wow are you and your god wacko. This is why Christianity is so bad for our society!
Everything happens for a reason. I am sure Jesus was there with them..giving comfort in their final moments. Praise Jesus!
everybody wants to be me fraud alert