April 7th, 2012
08:48 AM ET

Taking a rare tour of a Mormon temple

By Eric Marrapodi and Brian Todd, CNN

Kansas City, Missouri (CNN) - Elder William Walker slipped white booties over his black wing-tip shoes and instructed his guests to do the same as he led them into the newest Mormon temple in the world.

This day was the first chance the public had to see inside the sacred space for the area’s 49,000 Mormons, and it was also one of the last.

On May 6, when Thomas S. Monson, the head of the 14 million member Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, dedicates this temple, the doors will close forever to the public. The church said it expects as many as 100,000 visitors in Kansas City before the temple will be closed to the public.

After that, only temple-recommended Mormons will be able to walk through the heavy wooden and stained-glass doors.

“This is a sacred space, set apart place for only those who are devout followers of the faith,” Walker said.

For Mormons, temples serve as places of contemplation, instruction and worship experiences, like weddings and posthumous baptisms.

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The 67-year-old Walker is the executive director of the Temple Department, and he is the point man for the church’s 137 temples.

Walker is a top official in the LDS church as a member of the First Quorum of the Seventy and he reports directly to Monson. The Canadian-born hockey fanatic has been a lifelong member of the church. He graduated from Brigham Young University, served a Mormon mission to Japan and spent time in the private sector working in securities and investment banking before being called to serve the church full-time in 2002.

Kansas City’s temple is the latest to open. The church has announced it will build 29 temples across five continents. Construction is under way in Paris and Rome, and temples are planned for Peru and South Africa.

“We’re building temples where the church is grown and have a concentration of members,” he said.

Outside the new Mormon temple in Kansas City, Missouri.

Inside the temple the required first stop is the Recommend Desk. After the dedication, only Mormons who have a recommend card are able to enter and participate in worship. The personalized cards are given by local church leaders to adherents who profess to be living in accordance with church teachings.

As he explained the process, Walker reached into his wallet, pushed his Utah driver’s license aside and pulled out his recommend card, which was endorsed by Monson, his bishop. Walker said his credit-card-sized recommend card, like all others, is only good for two years.

CNN was invited by church officials to tour the temple with Walker before its dedication. The church denied CNN's request to film inside the space, saying it was against church policy. The LDS church provided still images after the tour, which accurately depicted key parts of the temple. In a rare move, CNN was permitted to film inside the front of the temple at the Recommend Desk, but no farther.

"It's not about secret. It's about sacred,” Walker said after the tour, making what the church sees as a key distinction. “We feel that it's a very sacred and special place and therefore it is reserved for those worship functions and those ordinances that take place in the temple. It's not about secret."

Walker said the policy is not unlike that for Shinto shrines in Japan, where he served his mission.

But it's a thin line between sacred and secret. Public tours of the temple are only available when they are first built or undergo massive renovations. After that, outsiders and Mormons who are not temple recommended are kept out, even from wedding ceremonies.

In the sealing room, where eternal weddings take place, Walker points out the altar at the center of the room. The bride and groom kneel facing each other and the officiant stands off to the side. The room is richly decorated with Swarovski crystal chandeliers and massive gilded mirrors on either side of the room, and Walker raves about the design on the white carpet, carefully explaining how local artisans cut the meticulous pattern by hand.

Despite the grand size of the building, each room is small: This is the biggest of the three sealing rooms, and its capacity is just 49 people.

Guests are welcome at Sunday worship at one of the church’s 18,000 meeting houses, Walker is quick to note. The temple, he observes, “is a sacred, special place that’s unique. There are only 137 of these temples in all the world.”

The temple also contains a gleaming baptismal font. Though it’s a point of pride for Mormons, it has been controversial elsewhere. A church ceremony called “proxy baptisms” by Mormons includes posthumous baptisms of Jews, some of whom have protested the practice.

The baptismal font at the newest Mormon temple.

However, in Mormon doctrine, baptism is essential for salvation. While converts to the faith are baptized in services at local wards, the weekly meeting place for services open to the public, proxy baptisms take place only in the temple and in private.

The proxy baptisms are supposed to be for Mormons’ ancestors who were not of the faith. Walker said the baptism serves as an invitation to accept Mormonism as an avenue into heaven.

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At the temple, Walker took his visitors through the process as it is supposed to work.

The font rests on 12 oxen, which he said represent the tribes of Israel.

Adherents change into white gowns he jokingly referred to as "jumpsuits," provided by the temple. A male priest leads the proxy into the waist-high water, gives the blessing and the name of the ancestor, then the proxy is lowered into the water, fully immersed, then brought up to the surface. The desk next to the font has a small monitor and a light. That person's job is to record the act for the church's central database.

When the temple begins operation, Walker said, this is a scene that will play out “hundreds of times a day.”

But some Mormons have used the church’s extensive genealogy database to baptize others who are not Mormon ancestors, such as the murdered Jewish reporter Daniel Pearl and holocaust victims like Anne Frank. It’s a practice that has outraged Jewish leaders.

“When people violate the church policy of doing baptisms for those who our leaders have said we’re not going to do that, they’re acting on their own in contradiction of church policy,” he said. “We’re unhappy about that. We love our Jewish friends. We don’t want to offend them or anyone else by our religious practices.”

“We’re sorry. We live by our word and when we say we’re going to do something, we’re going to try and do it,” Walker said.

He promised disciplinary action.

“We’re now tracking those who’ve done this contrary to church policy and we’re going to shut down their access to the church’s database, Family Search, so they can’t do this.”

He acknowledges interest in proxy baptisms, and other Mormon practices, has spiked thanks to Mormon Mitt Romney’s run for president.

While the church takes no position on party politics nor allows its officials to endorse candidates, Walker can see some good coming out of Romney's run for the White House.

“I think it’s perfectly understandable people who are considering him would want to know more about the church he espouses,” he said. “In many ways it may be a good thing that people will want to know more. Maybe some of the old ideas about the church that have persisted in American culture can change.”

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soundoff (4,366 Responses)
  1. Jafar

    Hello. I am not here to start something, but was there women putting the show covers on the men shoes? Check out second 30 through 35!
    talk about oppressing women?!?!?!?!?!

    April 17, 2012 at 6:36 pm |
    • Abinadi

      Oh, pleeeeease!

      April 17, 2012 at 7:09 pm |
    • Rex

      I like to beat my wife too.
      Just think if I had 5 to smack around
      Id make a good mormon.

      April 17, 2012 at 7:52 pm |
  2. Smacc66

    As a gay guy from Massachusetts I can testify that the 4 years we had Mr. Romney as governor where the most confusing time in Mass. political history. No matter what side of the political spectrum you stood,he stood with you. He told you what he thought you wanted to hear. He is the most self serving human being I have ever encountered. Tmost dangerous thing about Mr. Romney's views are..you never knew what they where. A gay friendly Mormon Church is fiction.plain and simple.

    April 17, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
    • little Brother

      The Book is Blue, the Message is True, and God's a Mormon.

      April 17, 2012 at 6:25 pm |
    • Nauvoo native

      my great great great grand daddy was one of the residents of illinois that helped run the mormons out of illinois
      my grand daddy told me that those mormons were a no good bunch that were up to no good.
      bigamist trash, he called 'em
      they mock christians with their fake faith
      book of mormon was used as TP in our house

      April 17, 2012 at 7:58 pm |
    • lily

      So Nauvoo, your ancestors killed my ancestors because of their religion. Threw them out of their homes and made them cross the frozen plains in rags to a desolate desert. What a great American you are!!

      April 17, 2012 at 8:37 pm |
    • ?

      If America elects a draft dodging, diaper wearing cult leader, Jesus Christ will reach down and wipe the United States off the face of the earth.

      April 17, 2012 at 10:51 pm |
  3. Abinadi

    James, I think you are bright enough to realize that your protestant church could not possibly be true. We have discussed the necesity of a foundation of apostles and prophets, which your church lacks, but then there is the issue of authority. Paul instructed in Hebrews 5: 4 that "No man taketh this honor (meaning the priesthood of God) unto himself". He said not even Christ did that. All protestant churches apostacized from the Catholic church (Isn't that why we call them Protestants?) and can not possibly claim any authority. James, you need to show some humility and admit you are wrong!

    April 17, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  4. james

    Heguido.one problem with Lucifer being a.son of.god.Lucifer was not a human.he was an.angel.humans are of the flesh Lucifer is demonic spirit

    April 17, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
    • sam stone


      April 17, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
  5. Audra

    Why is it that anti-Mormons are so obscene? So yeah... Mormons baptize themselves over and over again on behalf of their ancestors. I've heard of worse things! These guys who bad talk Mormons are doing nothing but contradicting their own faith (or lack thereof). It's hypocritical to say "tolerance for me! Tolerance for him! But hey, that Mormon dude..."

    April 17, 2012 at 3:59 pm |
  6. WillieLove

    ww w. bible. ca/ mor- wives- salvation- depends- on-husband. htm

    Read about Mormons....

    April 17, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
    • Audra

      from a better source.

      April 17, 2012 at 4:01 pm |
    • Dallin


      April 17, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
  7. abinadi

    James, you do err not knowing the scriptures! Evidence of Satan's once high status is in Isaiah 14:

    "12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

    13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

    14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

    15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit."

    Lucifer once enjoyed high status in heaven and was called the "son of the morning". He rebelled and there was war in heaven (Revelations 12:4, 7-9). Christ and his followers will eventually win, but that war is still going on here on earth – the fight between good and evil, and you, my friend have unwittingly joined the adversary! I advise you to get out of his employ because Satan is a dirt-bag and is no one's friend!

    April 17, 2012 at 11:22 am |
    • james


      April 17, 2012 at 1:03 pm |
    • abinadi

      Easy, James. Take a deep breath.

      April 17, 2012 at 2:27 pm |
    • james

      If you do not believe Jesus christ is God you err.Normans do not believe this and is the foundation of Christianity.it took God,not a mere human to shed his blood on the cross for my sins.Christ paid it all,there is nothing we can do save ourselves.works cannot save.My salvation is based on CHRIST ALONE.WITH MORMONISM.YOU HAVE TO EARN YOUR WAY TO HEAVEN ACCORDING TO JOSEPH SMITH A MERE MAN WHO WAS ALSO DECEIVED.MORMONISM IS A MAN MADE RELIGION WITH NO HOPE.I ONLY SAY THIS BECAUSE I CARE FOR LOSS SOULS

      April 17, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • Abinadi

      Your arguments have no foundation in scripture. Have you even read the Bible?

      April 17, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
    • David Nelson

      What a flase argument! All christians know that Lucifer held a high position in heaven and tried to overthrow the order of heaven and wanted to be as God!!!!! But he wasn't as God. He wanted to ascend to God's position. In his heart he wanted something that could never belong to him, Lucifer wanted to be worshiped! Only God can be worshipped! Christ being God could be worshipped and for Lucifer convinced enough angels to worship him... He was rightly kicked out of heaven for covetting something he could not have, and the angels that came with him became demons Now all Mormon males believe it is possible to become gods themselves, just like Lucifer. I need to remind you that Smith and Yound were Freemasons and that fits in with the upper levels of freemasonry. So who created Mormonism? Jesus or Satan? Joseph Smith was beguiled by an Angel Of Light. Lucifer of course masquerades as an Angel of Light! The Bible warns abou this. The angels cast out with Lucifer became known as demons and Lucifer became satan. Whenever people try to cantact "sprits" they are waiting there to decieve. It is undeniable that Smith was a mason and a cona artist money digger. So who do you think Smith contacted? Christ had worship in heaven because he was God. Lucifer was not God and got kicked out for thinking he could be! Now How Could They Be Brothers? Seems like Smith was doing the work of Satan by saying Lucifer was ever Christ's equal..

      April 20, 2012 at 10:27 am |
    • David Nelson

      Sorry about the lack of editing on the last post!

      April 20, 2012 at 10:30 am |
  8. moxie

    i thank god im not momo

    April 17, 2012 at 9:29 am |
    • cnnLover

      you'll get to thank him in person one day.

      April 17, 2012 at 6:30 pm |
  9. moxie

    i fell a little magic in my underwear

    April 17, 2012 at 9:25 am |
    • WillieLove

      yes, magic. That is what it's all about man. S-x s-x s-x marry as many young girls as possible for the spirit kingdom.

      April 17, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
  10. Abinadi

    Why I am a Mormon. Because Joseph Smith was a true prophet. False prophets are always alone when they have their "visions". That is because it never happened, to put it nicely. Joseph Smith had witnesses to everything he said. Witnesses are central to the gospel. Paul said, "In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established." Here is the testimony of the 3 witnesses to the Book of Mormon as set forth in the introduction to the Book of Mormon:
    "Be it known unto all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people, unto whom this work shall come: That we, through the grace of God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, have seen the plates which contain this record, which is a record of the people of Nephi, and also of the Lamanites, their brethren, and also of the people of Jared, who came from the tower of which hath been spoken. And we also know that they have been translated by the gift and power of God, for his voice hath declared it unto us; wherefore we know of a surety that the work is true. And we also testify that we have seen the engravings which are upon the plates; and they have been shown unto us by the power of God, and not of man. And we declare with words of soberness, that an angel of God came down from heaven, and he brought and laid before our eyes, that we beheld and saw the plates, and the engravings thereon; and we know that it is by the grace of God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, that we beheld and bear record that these things are true. And it is marvelous in our eyes. Nevertheless, the voice of the Lord commanded us that we should bear record of it; wherefore, to be obedient unto the commandments of God, we bear testimony of these things. And we know that if we are faithful in Christ, we shall rid our garments of the blood of all men, and be found spotless before the judgment-seat of Christ, and shall dwell with him eternally in the heavens. And the honor be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost, which is one God. Amen.
    Oliver Cowdery
    David Whitmer
    That is the difference between Joseph Smith and the false prophets – JOSEPH SMITH HAD WITNESSES!
    We are also ent itled to a witness as individuals that we not be deceived. In the Book of Mormon, God gave the following promise to every one who will read the Book of Mormon with si ncerity and faith:
    " 4 And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sin cere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost."
    5 And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things."
    Some of you may have gotten a witness as you read these words. The Lord's sheep know his voice and the truth will have a familiar ring to them. I want to say that I have received that witness and I know of a surety that Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God.

    April 17, 2012 at 8:59 am |
    • moxie

      i got a 4th grade education
      but im not dumb enough to believe that

      April 17, 2012 at 9:27 am |
    • keiyuuki

      You Know Mitt Romney can be outed because he works and makes others work for him on Sundays right? He drinks caffeine and does not treat others as family. He should be a disgrace to your religion. He is everything a Mormon should NOT be.

      April 17, 2012 at 11:53 am |
    • BennieBoy

      The problem with Joseph and his "witnesses" is that they didn't really witness anything. If you go back to the unrevised versions of church history, you will find that none of them ever handled the plates or saw them with their own eyes. A lot of them stated that it was with their "spiritual eyes" that they saw the plates and the "handling" never actually occurred.

      Another problem is that Joseph's account of the first vision was changed 3 times before he died and has been revised even since then. Which version does one believe when it has been repeatedly changed? I would imagine that if God and Christ appeared to me that it would be so significant of an event for me to remember when it happened.

      These are items that I have found in official church transcripts and publications. I stay away from anti-mormon literature as it is usually very skewed, but when it comes from the church itself it presents a very compelling case against itself and its authenticity.

      April 17, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
    • Pam

      Does your statement about prophets needing to have witnesses mean that Moses is not a true prophet, since he went to the mountain and spoke with God alone?

      April 17, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
    • BennieBoy

      @Pam: I don't buy the Moses story either. Was there a man named Moses that lived many, many years ago? Probably. Do I believe that he talked to directly to God and that he was a prophet? Not really. I believe he was a very, very smart man, but not a prophet.

      April 17, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
    • David Nelson

      Abinadi, all the Witnesses not related to Joseph Smith left the church at some point. It got so bad that Smith referred to them as "too mean to mention." Do you even know your own history or just the propganda? Abinadi, happily the truth is out the and some day you will come face to face with it and Jesus will lead you to where you need to be or Satan will tempt you into believing all churches are wrong or that there is no God. One of the first things missionaries tell people is that Smith said the creeds of all other churches were abominations and not to join any. So, its either Mormonism or nothing according to the paradigm in Mormonism. Satan sets a very clever trap.

      April 20, 2012 at 10:14 am |
  11. mikel

    Mormons believe Jesus and Lucifer were brothers
    you people are a bunch o sick whackos
    sick sick sick

    April 17, 2012 at 3:34 am |
    • heguido

      They were brothers. And they were our brothers. We are all sons and daughters of God. Lucifer rebelled against God and was casted away from Heaven, with one third of our brothers who decided to follow him instead of Jesus. The rest of us came to th Earth. Nothing of this contradicts the Bible. As a matter of fact, you can find remains of this truths everywhere in both the Old and New Testament. Unluckily, the "Nicene Creed" mixed everything into a conceptual mess...
      It is awesome to have all this truths again, since they explain a lot about our mortal life. I thank God every day for having living prohets nowadays. But you know what? There is A LOT more.

      April 17, 2012 at 6:54 am |
  12. Sensible American

    Why do all the mormon robot posts say go to mormon.org or LDS.org for "real" or "truthful" answers.
    Mormons are so blinded by their faith they keep saying the same thing over and over again.
    Its like a cult.
    Go to EXmormon.org for a different, more independent answer.

    April 17, 2012 at 2:06 am |
    • Abinadi

      Do you also recommend that we all eat feces and drink urine? Just because someone says there is a latrine at a certain location does not mean I have to go there and smell the bouquet. Mormon.org is spiritually uplifting and everytime I go there and read the faith uplifting stories, it brightens my day.

      April 17, 2012 at 8:40 am |
    • Abinadi

      We love our Savior, Jesus Christ, and we love his church which is presided over by our beloved prophet. By attacking the church of Jesus Christ, you are attacking him. You are serving the devil and your ex-mormon website is the devils web site.

      April 17, 2012 at 8:54 am |
  13. Abinadi

    It is the Protestants and Catholics who have changed the true doctrine. A good example is the Nicene creed. The Nicene Creed is nowhere in the Bible. It was totally fabricated by Constantine and his council of pagans, Capadocians, Nicenes, Gnostics, Arians, Apolinarians, Greek mystics and others who had an agenda. Constantine didn't know any doctrine. He just wanted peace in his empire from all the factions who were fighting over doctrine. He just settled for the first thing that the majority could agree with. The sad thing is that there were probably people there who knew the truth, but couldn't prevail over all the other factions – doctrine by committee! Paul would not have approved of the mess christianity is in. He said, "5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism," (Ephesians 4) Obviously, there can not be more than one true church or more than one true doctrine. The question is, which one? We invite all to visit mormon.org for the answer. Christ taught the true doctrine of the Godhead when he suffered himself to be baptized by John. In Luke 3:21,22 we read, "21 Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened,
    22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased."
    This is the true doctrine of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost which was taught by the Bible – that the Father and Son are two separate beings.  Funny, the smartest religious leaders have been reading the Bible for 2000 years but it took a 14 year old boy to point out the obvious!

    April 16, 2012 at 10:34 pm |
    • sissy poofter

      Wasnt that 14 year old boy Joseph Smith's little gay houseboy?
      Ive read numerous accounts of Smiths proclivities for young boys
      Wasnt Joseph Smith a paedophile?
      Does paedophilia run rampant in the mormon church like catholics?

      April 17, 2012 at 3:42 am |
    • heguido

      Oh, that's a new one.
      Joseph Smith was a great man. I admire and respect him. During his life he had to struggle against prejudices, lies, an treason. He even was killed by some of those who called themselves "friends". But he endured to the end, having accomplished the mission that God put upon his shoulders.
      God, knowing this, and as a way to prepare the young prophet taught him, almost first of all, that his "name should be had for good and evil among all nations, kindreds, and tongues, or that it should be both good and evil spoken of among all people."
      Being that he was not more than a 14 years old farm boy, living in a remote place, that should have sound strange to his ears. But since then, this prophesy has fulfilled, and it still fulfills every day.

      April 17, 2012 at 8:07 am |
  14. james

    Another false doctrine of mormanism is baptising the dead. Hebrews 9:27 says AS IT IS APPOINTED TO MAN ONCE TO DIE, AFTER THIS THE JUDGEMENT. There is no hope for anyone who is outside of Christ after death.I did not say this, the Word of God did..

    April 16, 2012 at 9:53 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      The word you profess is quite exclusionary and, quite frankly, completely immoral.

      April 16, 2012 at 9:55 pm |
    • Abinadi

      You have little idea what God said. You are full of deceit! Well did Joseph Smith say of you:

      19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”

      April 16, 2012 at 10:44 pm |
    • carters4Christ

      To Abinadi
      You must have more faith than I.
      I believe in Jesus Christ as the son of God and the only way to Heaven. You believe in a boy that at the age of 14 who went into the woods and was told don't join any churches.

      My faith is in a Savior who was put to death on a cross while the judge even said he was not guilty. Your faith is in a man who later committed many crimes and was put in jail for them because the judge found him guilty.

      My faith is in Jesus Christ who's tomb is empty because he defeated death and then ascended into Heaven and is preparing a place for us. Your faith is in a man who was shot and killed and is dead and laying in a grave.

      My Lord and Savior says that plurality of gods and polygamy is a sin. Your faith is in a man that endorsed plurality of gods and polygamy.

      The day will come when you and I will be standing face to face with the almighty Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. At that time I will be proclaiming the Word of God and praising Him. I hope and pray you realize the god of this world is currently deceiving you and that the only hope for salvation of sin is through Jesus Christ the Lord!

      April 16, 2012 at 11:35 pm |
    • Abinadi

      Mr. Carter,I can tell by your words that you are confused and not sure what you believe. You don't really know what we believe either. Your beliefs are based on 2000 years of apostacy from the truth! You are an apostate because you ignore the true teachings of the Bible And ignore and denigrate his ordained prophet on earth!

      The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is based on the teachings of Christ and the New Testament. Christ founded his church on apostles and prophets. Ephesians 2 states: "19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
      20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;"
      Apostles and prophets are absolutely essential because they hold the keys to the priesthood. If the apostles all die, the authority is lost along with revelation; we no longer know the mind and will of God and Christ is no longer the "chief cornerstone". False teachers and priests arise and we are "carried about with every wind of doctrine". Paul taught in Ephesians 4: "11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
      12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
      13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
      14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;"
      Without apostles and prophets we cannot come to a "unity of the faith" nor be perfected in Christ. Without a prophet who speaks authoritatively the will of God, only confusion can reign as people argue what God meant and uninspired men tamper with the holy scriptures!

      April 17, 2012 at 12:08 am |
    • Abinadi

      Christ taught in John 15: "16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you." Christ intended that he, himself, would be at the head of his church through revelation. That is why a man must be chosen of God through revelation to represent him and to preach his holy word – a thing that protestant churches totally lack because they apostatized from the Catholic church and which the catholic church cannot claim either because the first pope was a bishop, not an apostle, and to this day can claim no authority from living apostles. Why labor in error? Go to mormon.org where kind and patient missionaries can answer all your questions!

      April 17, 2012 at 12:22 am |
    • biologixco

      Abinadi took one too many spins in that big mormon brainwasher

      April 17, 2012 at 2:46 am |
    • Dallin

      @carters4Christ Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believe that only through Jesus Christ can they or anyone else be saved. @Abinadi I'd recommend shortening the points that you are making. They're good but long. @biologixco The same thing could be said to anyone no matter their beliefs. What good did you mocking him do? It just reflects poorly on you.

      April 17, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
    • lily

      Well James, ever read the Bible? Because baptism for the dead is in there. Corinthians 15:29
      "Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?"

      So if you read the Bible James, you would see that the mormons have it right. 1st century Christians did baptisms for the dead in Paul's time. An you believe in the Bible?

      April 17, 2012 at 8:45 pm |
  15. james

    Mormanism is one weird and demonic religion. Where does it say in the Word of God that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers.They may believe that Jesus is a Son of God but they do not believe Jesus Christ is God in the flesh which is foundational to Christianity.Without the shedding of innocent blood, there can be no remission of sins and only God himself was innocent and sinless.Without faith in this, no man is justified.

    April 16, 2012 at 9:44 pm |
    • james Freston

      You are quite mistaken: The LDS doctrine holds that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and a God himself, made in the image of man–flesh, blood and all. See mormon.org for more facts about the LDS faith.

      April 17, 2012 at 2:47 pm |
  16. Abinadi

    There is so much focus on Mormon-bashing here. Why don't we all just read the Book of Mormon and discover the power of that amazing book to change lives!

    April 16, 2012 at 9:38 pm |
    • james

      There is no power in the book of morman, only in the true holy Bible which is the Word of God. The book of morman leads to spiritual death.

      April 16, 2012 at 10:05 pm |
    • Dallin

      Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) read and believe in both the Holy Bible and the Book of Mormon.

      April 17, 2012 at 4:29 pm |
  17. Abinadi

    What hogwash! You have in common with the FLDS than we do. You are both antagonistic.

    April 16, 2012 at 8:46 pm |
  18. Muneef

    Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabeans [before Prophet Muhammad] – those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness – will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve. 2:62

    They are not [all] the same; among the People of the Scripture is a community standing [in obedience], reciting the verses of Allah during periods of the night and prostrating [in prayer]. 3:113

    They believe in Allah and the Last Day, and they enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong and hasten to good deeds. And those are among the righteous. 3:114

    And whatever good they do – never will it be removed from them. And Allah is Knowing of the righteous. 3:115

    Indeed, those who have believed [in Prophet Muhammad] and those [before Him] who were Jews or Sabeans or Christians – those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness – no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve. 5:69

    Indeed, those who have believed and those who were Jews and the Sabeans and the Christians and the Magians and those who associated with Allah – Allah will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection. Indeed Allah is, over all things, Witness. 22:17

    April 16, 2012 at 8:06 pm |
  19. Emmeline

    My momma wanted to me join the mormon church but i don't want to have to share my man, so i joined scientology instead
    check it out: scientology.org

    April 16, 2012 at 6:49 pm |
  20. Boscoe

    I heard something on Christian radio today that said if Mitt Romney gets elected, the LDS and FLDS are going to rejoin and polygamy is going to be re-legalized and forced on all Americans. I can't stand the biatch im with now. let alone 4 more

    April 16, 2012 at 6:37 pm |
    • heguido

      Thanks to your comment, Romney has lost the vote of the "IQ<40 bloc"...

      April 17, 2012 at 8:29 am |
    • Leverage

      Romney will keep the IQ<40 block because Obama is the "anti-christ" and a muslim!

      April 18, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
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