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April 8th, 2012
09:37 PM ET

Your take: Comments on Jesus deniers

Our story on a small cadre of authors challenging the existence of Jesus Christ drew almost 5,000 comments on Easter Sunday, with some upset that we did the story, others objecting to its publication on Easter, and plenty of others defending the article and the run date and debating the merits and implications of the debate.

Of course, most comments had nothing to do with our story, revolving instead around the debate about legitimacy of religion itself.

A sampling of the criticism:

Easter on CNN

You've gone too far.

While I am an advocate of spiritual exploration – by atheists to disprove or by the faithful to validate – running an article questioning the very core of a religious belief system on a holy day is indelicate, to say the least. Will you question that Muhammad received the word of God, running similar articles during Ramadan? Or on Yom Kippur, draw on conjecture to argue that the Book of Life is for fools?

This is not journalism. This sensationalist pander.

edeveryday

I would like to see if CNN would dare run a story saying that Muhammad was a "myth" on the Muslim' s holiest holidays and that Abraham was a "myth" on the Jewish holidays. Go ahead CNN and give it a try and see what happens.

rbsrs

Every Easter?...I mean why a negative story every Easter?? It has become a running joke.

ANGRY AT CNN!!!

CNN: IF YOU READ THIS GO TO HELL FOR YOUR ANTI-CHRISTIAN BIGOTRY THIS EASTER SUNDAY!!!!

Many other readers took aim at the critics:

JHC

To those who are insulted by this article,

If your faith is so weak that it cannot stand up to being looked at from an objective, historical, evidence based perspective, then this article is the least of your problems.

nomdefaitour

It is ironic that so many christians are "offended" at a dialogue about religion sponsored by CNN instead of greeting the opportunity to express their views. Perhaps they are shamed that we all know they are surfing the web when they should be worshipping on Easter Sunday.

Others weighed in on the merits and upshot of the debate over Jesus' existence:

JBOO

I do not doubt that a man named Jesus existed, and that he probably did preach about God. But I believe he was no different than any cult leader today that preaches about their own religious beliefs and gains a small number of followers. The difference with Jesus is that Christianity was already more wide spread, and the general population was very uneducated and easily influenced by a great orator. Do I actually believe their is a God, and Jesus is his son? No. But I'm sure the man existed.

Keith

It is actually more reasonable than not to conclude that Jesus was an actual living person. Whether or not he was "the Christ" is the only worthwhile point of debate. Regardless, many of the teachings of Jesus are worthy of people to take to heart whether they are Christians or not. As an agnostic, I take those things that are wise from any and all religions, and leave behind those things that are destructive.

gimmeslack12

I don't care whether he really existed or not. It's his story that never happened, at least the son of god part and dieing and coming back to life stuff. What matters to Christians is that he is a support system that is able to take the blame for all the bad stuff in your life so that you can move past them and continue living.

I was thinking about it the other day, and I think Jesus really is a great thing, because it allows people to psychologically take pressure, grief or guilt and remove the effects of anxiety and pressure that those feelings create. On the flipside it possible allows someone to conjure up Love by themselves.

I think Jesus is a psychological whipping boy for all things that people don't have or can't (don't want to?) deal with. So I think atheists and non-Christians (heck, maybe Christians themselves) are missing the point about the importance of Jesus to some people.

The Twitter conversation over the article was mostly complimentary:

@JoshTheLink

Interesting debate from CNN's site about whether or not Jesus was a real person: https://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/07/the-jesus-debate-man-vs-myth/?hpt=hp_c1

@CommonDescent

CNN asks: Did Jesus exist? https://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/07/the-jesus-debate-man-vs-myth/?hpt=hp_c2 Honestly, this is a topic I don't know much about. I'd like to learn more.

@TTCNews

CNN interviews two Thoughtful Christian authors for this intriguing question–Craig A. Evans... http://fb.me/1idvhPxXD

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Christianity • Easter • Jesus

soundoff (2,443 Responses)
  1. Jesus is Almighty God

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gKsPMR00_Y&w=640&h=360]

    April 9, 2012 at 10:22 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      haven't seen a good brain-washing propaganda film in a while? just click play above and turn off your brain! derp!

      April 9, 2012 at 10:31 pm |
  2. Pedro Cerrano

    Jesus, I like him very much, but he no help with curveball. .

    April 9, 2012 at 10:17 pm |
  3. Bigboard

    Another example of CNN attempting to make news instead of reporting it. The medium pimps itself.

    April 9, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
  4. Bootyfunk

    @Leo, you wrote: The Bible doesn't say that at all!! Your a stinking liar, show me the verse!!

    everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death (2 Chronicles 15:12-13)

    i showed you. how about an apology? want to retract your statement? want to admit you obviously didn't know your guide book said that?

    April 9, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
    • MandoZink

      How do you know the Bible is true? Because it says so in the Bible stupid.
      How do you know the Bible is right? Because the Bible is the word of God.
      How do you know it's the word of God? Because it says so in the Bible.
      How do you know the Bible is true? Because it says so in the.....,
      Wait a minute here. Do I start thinking now? Is this rational? Oh wait, the Bible says I'll be tortured forever for thinking this way. Yessirree, the Bible says, blah, blah, blah .....

      Got science? Please get some. Learn logical thinking first.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:16 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I doubt Leo knows how shoelaces work, Booty. He is unlikely to even find your post, even less likely to understand it, and even LESS likely to answer it in grammatical English. He's a dumbazz who probably is unemployed, uneducated, and on welfare.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:16 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      @Tom

      you're right. you can show a christian a dictionary definition of a word and they'll still argue about it, "no, that's not what it means to me... derp!"

      it's like talking to a sheep. a plastic sheep. a plastic blowup sheep. wait, that would be more useful...

      April 9, 2012 at 10:22 pm |
    • Leo

      The old Testament was for Israel not Atheist you are wrong and you know it!!

      April 9, 2012 at 10:35 pm |
    • Leo

      Tom the Hopeless... You may impress the other wolves how come here for their daily happiness, but I still feel your pain.

      I do hope your eyes are opened before it is too late... the day is coming soon!!

      April 9, 2012 at 10:38 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "HOW"?

      You're sad.

      Do you really think you're not obvious? You can change your screen name, but it won't matter. I know who you are.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:42 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I suspect Leo has undiagnosed learning disabilities. It's a shame he/she/it didn't get help as a child, but it's not too late.

      I hope Leo's friends will step up and get him to the appropriate facilities.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:44 pm |
  5. kso

    Grown "adults" who believe in satan and hell... no wonder our country is failing. epic fail.

    why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid why are we so stupid

    YAY AMERICA!

    April 9, 2012 at 10:09 pm |
    • We Can Do Better

      Come now. We atheists can do much better than this.

      You are debating a group of people who have absolutely no evidence upon which to base an argument. All they can do is cite a verry unreliable and contradictory "source", their scripture, or they must cop out to sophistry, like "you are going to burn in hell if you don't obey."

      As a result, an atheist should be able to defeat a theist in any debate. Feel free to lay mockery upon the most persistently brainless of them, like the many just sayin personnas or Chad or Nii, but remember that some of them are decent people trying to live decently, and are simply confused by a lifetime of indoctrination and propaganda by their friends and family, supporting a being they cannot experience in any way beyond their own imaginations.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:17 pm |
    • Truthfully

      Actually, the country was doing far better when there were more Christians and/or Americans who believed in the Christian values this country once held dear. It is no coincidence that the further we fall away from God the further we fall into decline.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      oh yes, we are in decline. lol. that is such a lame argument.

      during our slavery years, the bible was used to promote slavery constantly. because the bible DOES promote slavery, even has rules for selling your own daughter into slavery.

      100 years ago, women couldn't vote
      75 years ago, men could not be arrested for beating their wives
      47 years ago, black people couldn't vote
      44 years ago a black and white couple couldn't marry

      and that was when the country was more christian. you wanna retract how great the country was when it was more christian?

      April 9, 2012 at 10:26 pm |
  6. Clyde Farris

    It was a good and a fair story. Too bad that the factual basis for religion, assuming there is any factual basis, can't be the subject of reasoned discourse. With religion, and certainly with Christianity, doubt is the opposite of the blind faith that is demanded for "salvation," so reasoned discourse is not an option. I do not understand how otherwise intelligent, critical thinking individuals can believe that there is a "supernatural" and believe the most improbable/impossible stories, but they do.

    April 9, 2012 at 10:06 pm |
    • Onslow

      Very well said sir!

      April 9, 2012 at 10:12 pm |
  7. Jean

    I do understand why many people reject to the idea that Jesus may not have existed. To think otherwise would turn their belief system on its head. How would they get to heaven without it? For many people, the goal or purpose on this earth is to get to heaven. The here and now doesn't matter. It is what comes afterward that matters, the reward. If you take away the reward for good behavior and belief, what do they have left? They would need to live without expectation of a reward in the end, and that is a hard pill to swallow.

    April 9, 2012 at 10:05 pm |
    • nookster

      They fear death. So they create an after death fantasy trip. Fear is an emotion many can't face.

      April 10, 2012 at 12:05 am |
  8. Mark

    The most common denominator in the posting about this story is the great lengths non believers go to voice their opinion to prove believers are wrong. The reason non believers comment is your need to justify your temporary belief ..that he may or may not be real. The reason that cnn runs the story on Easter is easy to understand. They want to ruffle feathers and sell their brand....Cheap PT Barnum tactics . However ,they pick on Christians because we are easy targets. we know they would never cause controversry for Jewish faithful,because they would be fired. And never Muslims because they would be afraid for their lives. Christians already get the big picture because the Holy spirit teaches us and guides us ....we know one day that All people will believe and put their hope in something.(Usually its the deathbed). so we forgive those who are still unsure and pray that one day they will know the Christ that we know....Peace ...So go on and pick on us....we are strange and peculiar...and definitely not perfect.....we are just forgiven.....

    April 9, 2012 at 10:02 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      yep, if the cult of christianity could keep their nose out of politics and stop trying to shove their nutty beliefs down everyone throats, we wouldn't have much to complain about. but when christians keep g.a.y.s from getting married, try to control s.e.x, protect child molesters, etc., i think we have a right to complain. basically, if you guys could leave us alone, we'd leave you alone.

      i would actually defend to the death your right to be an idiotic cult member. you are free to think anything you want: the earth is flat, 6k years old, dinosaurs never existed, man was made from mud and woman from his rib spontaneously (as opposed to evolution), shmexy thoughts are evil, etc. go on, live in the bronze age when this dribble was written. but don't try to make me live there with you.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:17 pm |
    • MandoZink

      Bootyfunk does have a point that is just not obvious to you, and it wouldn't be. You have to have accept a certain degree of personal blindness to reality to defend inherited beliefs you do not want to dare question. What religion were you born into? Every believer in any mythology that ever existed always thinks they got the RIGHT belief. Think, man. THINK!

      April 9, 2012 at 10:26 pm |
  9. Heather

    For those that say Jesus never existed or he was just another man/prophet, just think about one thing: Jesus is such a significant figure that the way we describe time was influenced by him. For example B.C.E. stands for 'before the Christian era' or the number of years before Jesus was born. C.E. is the abbreviation for 'Christian Era' which started when Jesus was born. That's an awful lot of hub-bub for someone who wasn't that important or didn't even exist...

    April 9, 2012 at 10:00 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oh, please. You think THAT'S a reason to believe Jesus was the Messiah?

      What utter stupidity.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:02 pm |
    • Heather

      That's certainly not the ONLY reason to believe Jesus is the Messiah. That's why I said 'consider one thing'. But what was I thinking? Joe Plumber has things designated in the stream of time after him too...

      April 9, 2012 at 10:08 pm |
    • MandoZink

      BCE means "Before the Common Era". It was designated that to represent the commonly shared yearly calendar that most countries already use to avoid religious connotations. Christians began re-purposing the acronym.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:14 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      And THAT'S the most compelling argument you could think of, Heather?

      Lame, lame, lame-o. LAME.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:18 pm |
    • Know What

      Heather,

      Every week (52 times per year) in English-speaking places we have:

      Tuesday = Tiu's day (Norse god)
      Wednesday = Woden's day (Norse god)
      Thursday = Thor's day (Norse god)
      Friday = Frigga's day (Norse goddess)
      Saturday = Saturn's day (Roman god)

      And every year:

      January = in honor of Janus (Roman god)
      February = Roman purification, februa
      March = in honor of Mars (Roman god)
      April = in honor of Aphrodite (Greek goddess)
      May = in honor of Maia (Roman goddess)
      June = in honor of Juno (Roman goddess)

      A lot of hoopla for those gods and goddesses. I guess that means that they were/are all real too then, eh?

      April 9, 2012 at 10:19 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      LOL. heather, you are uninformed.

      C.E. = common era
      B.C.E. = before common era

      seriously, you're on a computer and you couldn't get that right? LOL.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era

      April 9, 2012 at 10:19 pm |
  10. cv

    Historical proof please. Myths and urban legends are great. Where are the facts. As of yet, based on historical fact, you can't find any.

    I cannot be a devout believer, if I have no proof of what to believe in. Just not there. I also do not believe in fairly tales, although I do mock them.

    Great fable, myth story though, and it's wonderful that people still cater to that type of imaginative fable like mythology. It's a great story, and people love fantasy, it often beats reality.

    April 9, 2012 at 9:57 pm |
    • justsayin

      The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Christ, his execution by Pontius Pilate and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (written ca. 116 AD), book 15, chapter 44.

      The extant manuscripts of the writings of the 1st century Romano-Jewish historian Flavius Josephus include references to Jesus and the origins of Christianity.[1][2] Josephus' Antiquities of the Jews, written around 93–94 AD, includes two references to Jesus in Books 18 and 20 and a reference to John the Baptist in Book 18.

      Next question.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:00 pm |
    • cv

      Yes, the Romans cite it, but the key here is that the Romans used Christianity to expand their empire.

      Can you find other sources please?

      April 9, 2012 at 10:04 pm |
    • just sayin

      Fake fraud alert. God bless.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:09 pm |
    • justsayin

      What? These men published their works hundreds of years before Constantine. Are you saying the Romans went back and doctored their works? Might be easier to just believe Jesus existed.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:09 pm |
    • That makes no sense

      85 years afterwards, Tacitus repeats the common knowledge of the beliefs of the Christian cult, and that is somehow proof of Jesus' existence?

      Logic is not your strongest characteristic, is it?

      April 9, 2012 at 10:10 pm |
    • Pipe-Dreamer

      cv,,,,

      Blind alleyways should not be walked alone at night Neither should one walk daily being ever blinded by Faith's flashing lights! We all need our space to Live out our Life ever seeking the nurturing of one's heart but preferably,,, on weekends be it Sunday but for some Saturday and even for others beginning on Friday at sunset..

      Live one's Life affordably and essenced with, for and toward goodnesses and all will be well. 🙂

      April 9, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
    • justsayin

      I guess the JEWISH HISTORIAN Josephus "repeats the common knowledge of the beliefs of the Christian cult?" They must have been pretty influential as they were being thrown to the lions. Try again.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
    • That makes no sense

      Of course that is what Josephus did. He was not alive when Jesus lived, and his writings do not show that he knew anyone who knew Jesus. The one writing that says the most about Jesus has strong doubts about authenticity – it really looks like a Christian forgery. Even if it is authentic Josephus, Josephus is only repeating word of mouth.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:23 pm |
    • justsayin

      "That makes no sense" (not a misnomer). And history isn't your strong suit . History isn't logical – are you trying to find history through logic? Where are you getting your history?

      April 9, 2012 at 10:27 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Where are you getting yours, just a dolt?

      April 9, 2012 at 10:28 pm |
    • justsayin

      Here's some logic: You wrote "He was not alive when Jesus lived". You have just confirmed that you believe Jesus existed.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:29 pm |
    • Consider This

      just sayin, consider for a moment what you know about the life of Joseph Smith and the angel Moroni. You know the tales of them, just as Josephus knew of Jesus. Since you feel that Josephus' mention of Jesus 80 years after the fact proves the existence of Jesus, then your knowledge of Moroni over 150 years after the fact proves the existence of Moroni.

      Understand the logical fallacy you are committing yet?

      April 9, 2012 at 10:30 pm |
    • Leo

      Tom, do you talk to your husband this way??

      I am waiting for the Hope of the Great Tom Tom, Come on and woman up!! Let us know your hope in this world!!

      April 9, 2012 at 10:33 pm |
    • justsayin

      Consider This – That's a dubious analogy. I might see it if he were the only secular source to have written about him.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:34 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Do I talk to my husband in what way?

      My husband has a brain. I don't need to address him as I do some moron like you, honey. But thanks for asking. It made my dear groom laugh.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:39 pm |
    • That makes no sense

      I personally do think that Jesus existed, but that is pure opinion based on conjecture, which is all any of us have. I also think there was a Briton warlord in sixth century England with a name close to "Arthur" upon which a legend was built. Having studied Arthurian legend pretty closely, I also know that Arthur goes from a very vague mention through a number of different characteristics to finally become the Arthur we today recognize, which finalized in Mallory's Morte D'Artur.

      Jesus similarly grew and changed until codified in the Gospels – which is why they don't match precisely.

      But I see absolutely no reason that Jesus could be considered a deity. He was just another self-appointed guru, an L. Ron Hubbard, a Joseph Smith, a David Koresh.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:42 pm |
    • Leo

      I am sure he is really proud of you!! What did you do today honey?? Well I tried really hard to make people turn away from their faith, but couldn't. Well honey don't worry our master is still rooting for you...

      April 9, 2012 at 10:45 pm |
    • justsayin

      That makes no sense – I am really not saying that Jesus was a deity (actually, Jesus didn't either). But I do think that there is enough plausible evidence (both scriptural and secular) to confidently say that he did exist as a man on earth. I think it's more of a stretch to try and prove otherwise.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:50 pm |
    • That makes no sense

      No, there really is no hard evidence. My view is based on conjecture – circumstantial evidence, if you will. The argument from embarassment makes me think Jesus was real, because an invented messiah would not have blown it like Jesus occasionally did.

      April 9, 2012 at 11:04 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I 'tried really hard to make people turn away from their faith'. Ummm, do show proof that I did any such thing, you lying little sack.

      April 9, 2012 at 11:32 pm |
  11. Galoot

    That is what's called a false dilemma.
    Besides, what caused the 'higher power'?

    April 9, 2012 at 9:57 pm |
  12. Francis

    Is CNN going to explain themselves after this lewd act of bigotry and prejudice? Many Christians are offended and to the point that we don't want to watch your shows or use your website for American news. Very bad taste indeed.

    April 9, 2012 at 9:56 pm |
    • cv

      This is how other religions feel, when their beliefs are questioned too.

      Imagine that. Not everyone is Christian, or of X religion for that case.

      Oh my G-d, what a novelty.

      Strange world huh.

      April 9, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
    • Why Are So Many Christians Unable To Tolerate Free Speech?

      Are you really so afraid of an intelligent debate on a subject that is active in today's world? Are you really trying to snuff out dialog and free speech? Are you really using a threat to try to suppress the subject?

      While CNN is not ideal as a news source, they did provide equal time to both sides, and found competent speakers to represent both views. Please explain how you can say that this bigotry and prejudice (both the same thing, by the way). Explain how it is lewd.

      You make some wild accusations. Please support them. How can an intelligent debate be in bad taste? The only way would be that you cannot stand any dissention from your opinions, and are unable to discuss them intelligently.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
    • † In God We Trust †

      cv: You're truly a zionist.... shame on you
      People like you will never end up in heaven

      April 9, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
  13. bencoates57

    The only thing worse than a report on what random Jesus deniers are saying on the Internet is a report on CNN users comments on the report. Amateur hour on CNN.com is getting longer.

    April 9, 2012 at 9:53 pm |
    • It's like this

      Afraid to actually address the issue, are you? You find it appropriate to try to stifle discussion instead of openly debating the question?

      Well, that's not very impressive, but it is what we have learned to expecct from Christians.

      April 9, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
  14. I M

    Only somebody with something to hide attempts to silence questions. If you were really confident that Jesus existed, you'd scoff at questioners and roll your eyes. You don't. You shriek and threaten, because you want the conversation to end NOW NOW NOW.

    April 9, 2012 at 9:52 pm |
  15. Greg

    "...and God doth commend His own love to us, that, in our being still sinners, Christ did die for us;" Romans 5:8

    April 9, 2012 at 9:49 pm |
  16. justsayin

    There is evidence in secular history that Jesus existed. Flavius Josephus and Tacitus were first century historians who mention Jesus as a historical figure. Yes, horrible things have been done in the name of religion, but that does not mean that it was sanctioned by God, nor does it indicate that he does not exist. Even if we now lived in peace, separated from this war-torn, environmentally-sick world on the verge of global economic collapse (self-inflicted mind you), we'd still eventually have to face the reality of sickness and death. This is why the message of Jesus is unique and important to so many. He preached a message of hope that hasn't been found anywhere else in the universe. The promise of continued life. What if he wasn't lying? That would be kind of big deal. Most people choose to ignore God because they think it absolves them from any accountability (ironically they are happy to be held accountable by their own human governments). It's much easier not to investigate the Bible and believe your philosophy professor that God does not exist. You can live life as you please until the lights go off. What's a shame is that this world is bringing itself down with or without God. We don't know how to govern ourselves – hasn't anyone figured that out yet? Still, they'll go down kicking and screaming that there is no God.

    April 9, 2012 at 9:45 pm |
    • cv

      That still doesn't make Jesus G-d, see that's the problem. People equate him to G-d, and again people mention urban legends. As a historical and biblical scholar, if you have any evidence of historical proof, do cite it please. Show where, the names you've mentioned still don't hold up.

      Again, show historical evidence please.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:01 pm |
    • just sayin

      Demons commit fraud because they are always false before God. There's your sign.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:10 pm |
    • justsayin

      Neither I nor Jesus ever said he was God.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:17 pm |
    • Truthfully

      cv – Jesus said, "I and the Father are one" John 10:30
      Why do you expect people to show you evidence that Christ is God when you cannot show evidence He is not God.
      Historians know Christ existed. They also know He claimed to be the Son of God and equal to God. It is up to each of us to decide if what Christ claimed is true or not. I would bet my life it is true and that everything He claimed is true. You have every right to believe what you want but I would advise you to do a careful search for truth before you make your final decision. You see, ( well, perhaps you don't) , this will be the most important decision you will ever make.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:36 pm |
  17. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    April 9, 2012 at 9:45 pm |
    • Deedubya

      You're right! I just prayed for a Porsche to appear in my driveway and now... oh wait... never mind.

      April 9, 2012 at 9:56 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      Give me a few examples.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:19 pm |
    • Tony

      Actually it is prayer that is not healthy, especially for children. Children are taught that, as you said, "prayer changes things", and it doesn't. Prayer has absolutely no effect on the outcome of a situation. The situation, whether it is something serious like a life threatening illness or injury or something mundane like the outcome of a sporting event, will be resolved in a certain way REGARDLESS of prayer. It has always been like this, it always will be.

      Prayer flies in the face of logic. Prayer is a plea to God to resolve a situation a certain way, like praying that a seriously ill person survive their illness. But God has, allegedly (according to the Christian mythos), already decided when and where people will die. It is his divine plan. What logical reason is there for praying that God change this divine plan? Prayer has no effect other than to make humans feel better about situations they have no control over.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
  18. world.citizen

    I really don't care if Jesus ever existed, just a myth or not, whether Jesus is Son of God, whether he died for all of us. I don't care! I do believe in God and Christianity not because of rationale nor because of logical way of thinking, nor because of history/science!!! I do believe because I need God and Jesus in my life. PERIOD!!!

    April 9, 2012 at 9:45 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      Time to get a refill on your medications.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
  19. stevie68a

    We really are in a New Age. We are awakening to the fact that the stories we were brainwashed with as children, now seem
    quaint, and downright phony. The jesus story would have not even been questioned in public a few years ago. One thing to say
    about "the greatest story ever told" is that some stories are fiction.
    Watching the movie "the ten commandments" shows how hilarious religion is. Really, parting the sea with a wave of moses' arm? Just like what happened during the holocaust, someone opened the ocean to let 6 million escape..... Please, people,
    religion is only a delusion.

    April 9, 2012 at 9:40 pm |
  20. Joe Fattal

    We celebrate his resurection and in nine month we will celebrate his birth. The man is a myth, a person of someone's imagination. You do not create a religion unless you have someone behind it as a leader so people can follow him and follow his preaching. For Christian is Jesus, for the Muslims is Muhammed and for he Jews, I don't know either Moses or David.

    April 9, 2012 at 9:38 pm |
    • cv

      It's really Paul see, behind Jesus and all. It all goes back to Paul, that's the key there.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
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