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April 8th, 2012
09:37 PM ET

Your take: Comments on Jesus deniers

Our story on a small cadre of authors challenging the existence of Jesus Christ drew almost 5,000 comments on Easter Sunday, with some upset that we did the story, others objecting to its publication on Easter, and plenty of others defending the article and the run date and debating the merits and implications of the debate.

Of course, most comments had nothing to do with our story, revolving instead around the debate about legitimacy of religion itself.

A sampling of the criticism:

Easter on CNN

You've gone too far.

While I am an advocate of spiritual exploration – by atheists to disprove or by the faithful to validate – running an article questioning the very core of a religious belief system on a holy day is indelicate, to say the least. Will you question that Muhammad received the word of God, running similar articles during Ramadan? Or on Yom Kippur, draw on conjecture to argue that the Book of Life is for fools?

This is not journalism. This sensationalist pander.

edeveryday

I would like to see if CNN would dare run a story saying that Muhammad was a "myth" on the Muslim' s holiest holidays and that Abraham was a "myth" on the Jewish holidays. Go ahead CNN and give it a try and see what happens.

rbsrs

Every Easter?...I mean why a negative story every Easter?? It has become a running joke.

ANGRY AT CNN!!!

CNN: IF YOU READ THIS GO TO HELL FOR YOUR ANTI-CHRISTIAN BIGOTRY THIS EASTER SUNDAY!!!!

Many other readers took aim at the critics:

JHC

To those who are insulted by this article,

If your faith is so weak that it cannot stand up to being looked at from an objective, historical, evidence based perspective, then this article is the least of your problems.

nomdefaitour

It is ironic that so many christians are "offended" at a dialogue about religion sponsored by CNN instead of greeting the opportunity to express their views. Perhaps they are shamed that we all know they are surfing the web when they should be worshipping on Easter Sunday.

Others weighed in on the merits and upshot of the debate over Jesus' existence:

JBOO

I do not doubt that a man named Jesus existed, and that he probably did preach about God. But I believe he was no different than any cult leader today that preaches about their own religious beliefs and gains a small number of followers. The difference with Jesus is that Christianity was already more wide spread, and the general population was very uneducated and easily influenced by a great orator. Do I actually believe their is a God, and Jesus is his son? No. But I'm sure the man existed.

Keith

It is actually more reasonable than not to conclude that Jesus was an actual living person. Whether or not he was "the Christ" is the only worthwhile point of debate. Regardless, many of the teachings of Jesus are worthy of people to take to heart whether they are Christians or not. As an agnostic, I take those things that are wise from any and all religions, and leave behind those things that are destructive.

gimmeslack12

I don't care whether he really existed or not. It's his story that never happened, at least the son of god part and dieing and coming back to life stuff. What matters to Christians is that he is a support system that is able to take the blame for all the bad stuff in your life so that you can move past them and continue living.

I was thinking about it the other day, and I think Jesus really is a great thing, because it allows people to psychologically take pressure, grief or guilt and remove the effects of anxiety and pressure that those feelings create. On the flipside it possible allows someone to conjure up Love by themselves.

I think Jesus is a psychological whipping boy for all things that people don't have or can't (don't want to?) deal with. So I think atheists and non-Christians (heck, maybe Christians themselves) are missing the point about the importance of Jesus to some people.

The Twitter conversation over the article was mostly complimentary:

@JoshTheLink

Interesting debate from CNN's site about whether or not Jesus was a real person: https://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/07/the-jesus-debate-man-vs-myth/?hpt=hp_c1

@CommonDescent

CNN asks: Did Jesus exist? https://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/07/the-jesus-debate-man-vs-myth/?hpt=hp_c2 Honestly, this is a topic I don't know much about. I'd like to learn more.

@TTCNews

CNN interviews two Thoughtful Christian authors for this intriguing question–Craig A. Evans... http://fb.me/1idvhPxXD

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Christianity • Easter • Jesus

soundoff (2,443 Responses)
  1. Mr. Logic

    Yesterday, I posted a comment about how I thought religion was ridiculous. However, today I just had a moment that I could not explain. This moment in time I just experience was a "god fearing" moment. I still think religious books are not the way to experience god and peace but somehow god will show you he exisits. I don't care who you are and what you think. God will show you. Whatever god is? It is here and we are controlled by it. I am amazed by what I experienced. I will not question gods exisitance anymore.

    April 10, 2012 at 11:48 am |
    • Sybaris

      Your god knows you are fibbing.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:50 am |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      I thought lying was a sin. Except of course when it's for jesus.

      April 10, 2012 at 12:12 pm |
    • Nonimus

      So what you are saying is that if someone does not believe in God it is really God's fault, right?

      April 10, 2012 at 3:56 pm |
  2. walter eagle

    CNN, leave the religion alone, use your employees for something more useful stop open a can of warms

    April 10, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • Horus

      Translation: Supress all info that does not support my beliefs. Do not allow religion to be questioned, or debated.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:55 am |
    • GentleGoodNight

      No. Translation: actually talk to the scholarly community before posting such blantant BS. The historocity of the man Jesus are facts of record, accepted by the scholarly community and civilized world at large. Presenting known falshoods as potential fact is irresponsible, not to mention (arguablly) intentionally misleading.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:58 am |
  3. Patti

    What I find intriguing about humans is what astonishing power we are sure we posses. We know our beliefs control how an entire universe works. Our faith has told us that the world was flat, the sun revolved around the moon, the earth was the center of the universe, we came from Adam and Eve and there is a life after this one where the good are rewarded and the bad will burn in hell fire for all eternity.

    If there some sort of existence after what we know as life on this planet, then it is because it's a law of the universe, not because we have faith or because it's what we believe to be true. The reality is, that the universe doesn't need our consent in order for it to work. The universe has been in existence for billions of years before our arrival and will continue to be for billions of years after we are gone... whether we BELIEVE it or not.

    April 10, 2012 at 11:43 am |
  4. Doc Vestibule

    A question for Em:

    Who is to say that Angus, Belenos, Brigid, dana, Lugh, Dagda, Epona, Aphrodite, Apollo, Ares, Artemis, Atehna, Demeter, Dionysus, Eris, Eos, Gaia, Hades, Hekate, Helios, Hephaestus, Hera, hermes, Hestia, Pan, Poseidon, Selene, Uranus, Zeus, Mathilde, Elves, Eostre, Frigg, Hretha, Saxnot, Shef, Thuno, Tir, Weyland, Woden, Alfar, Balder, Beyla, Bil, Bragi, Byggvir, Dagr, Disir, Eir, Forseti, Freya, Freyr, Frigga, Heimdall, Hel, Hoenir, Idunn, Jord, Lofn, Loki, Mon, Njord, Norns, Nott, Odin, Ran, saga, Sif, Siofn, Skadi, Snotra, Sol, Syn, Ull, Thor, Tyr, Var, Vali, Vidar, Vor, Black Shuck, Herne, Jack in the Green, Holda, Nehalennia, Nerthus, endovelicus, Ataegina, Runesocesius, Apollo, Bacchus, Ceres, Cupid, Diana, Janus, Juno, Jupiter, Maia, Mars, Mercury, Minerva, Neptune, Pluto, Plutus, Proserpina, Venus, Vesta, Vulcan, Attis, Cybele, El-Gabal, Isis, Mithras, Sol Invictus, Endovelicus, Anubis, Aten, Atum, Bast, Bes, Geb, Hapi, Hathor, Heget, Horus, Imhotep, Isis, Khepry, Khnum, Maahes, Ma’at, Menhit, Mont, Naunet, Neith, Nephthys, Nut, Osiris, Ptah, ra, Sekhmnet, Sobek, Set, Tefnut, Thoth, An, Anshar, Anu, Apsu, Ashur, Damkina, Ea, Enki, Enlil, Ereshkigal, Nunurta, Hadad, Inanna, Ishtar, Kingu, Kishar, Marduk, Mummu, Nabu, Nammu, Nanna, Nergal, Ninhursag, Ninlil, Nintu, Shamash, Sin, Tiamat, Utu, Mitra, Amaterasu, Susanoo, Tsukiyomi, Inari, Tengu, Izanami, Izanagi, Daikoku, Ebisu, Benzaiten, Bishamonten, Fu.kurokuju, Jurojin, Hotei, Quetzalcoatl, Tlaloc, Inti, Kon, Mama Cocha, Mama Quilla, Manco Capac, Pachacamac, Viracoc.ha, or Zaramama aren't true gods?

    How can the Tanakh, Talmud, Midrash, New Testament, Quran, Sunnah, Nahjul Balagha, Avesta, Vedas, Upanisahds, Bhagavad Gita, Puranas, Tantras, Sutras, Vachanas, Adi Granth, Purvas, Samayasara, Niyamasara, Pravacanasara, and Pancastikaya; Anupreksa; Samadhishataka of Pujyapada; Tattvarthasutra of Umasvati, Tattvarthasutra, Pali Tripitaka, Jataka,, Visuddimagga, Tripitaka, Lotus Sutra, Garland Sutra, Analects; the Great Learning; the Doctrine of the Mean; the Mencius, Tao Te Ching, Chuang-tzu, Kojiki, Nihon Shoki, K-oki, Ofudesaki, Mikagura-uta, Michi-no-Shiori, Johrei, Goseigen, Netarean Shower of Holy Doctrines, Chun Boo Kyung, Kitab-i-Iqan, Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, Book of Mormon, Dianetics, or Revelation X be dismissed as Holy Books since they all claim to be The Truth?

    Since you're a Bible adherent, how do you know whether Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, oriental Orthodox, As.syrian, Byzantine, Lutheran, Anglican, Presbyterian, Anabaptism, Brethren, Methodist, Pietism, Apostolic, Pentocostal, Charismatic, African Initiated, United, Quakers, Couthcotti.tism, Millerism, British-Isrealism, Latter Day Saints, Mennonite, 7th day Adventism, Kelleyism, Co.oneyism, Shakers, Methernitha, Strigolniki, Yehowism, Christadelphians, Christian Science, doukhobors, Iglesia ni Cristo, Makuya, Molokans, Subbotniks, Ebionism, Martinism, Rosicrucians, Rastafarianism, Santo Daime, or Umbanda is the REAL interpretation of your God's words?

    April 10, 2012 at 11:40 am |
    • Horus

      Don't bother with Em. They don't even know the history of Christianity, and that the foretelling of a messianic figure, referred to as "Kristos" or "Christ" occured before Jesus allegedly came into the picture. For Em, religion began with Jesus, a man supposdely from a city that can't be proven to have existed until several hundered years after his death. And even then couldn't have supported more than about 5 families, let alone an entire city (based on the "well" that was allegedly used to prove Jesus' birth place).

      BTW, I am real .... Horus, son of Isis/Osiris 😉

      April 10, 2012 at 11:51 am |
  5. Pipe-Dreamer

    Death is Life's passageway into the unknown places one cannot rightly fathom within the truances of mortalities' graspings. Having Faith in an After-Death-Life is not for the faint of heartlessness nor of those who do in mockeries' dissentions cast lots. Hell's kitchens await their next allocations of much needed supplies! for feeding all of heavens geat and smalled!

    April 10, 2012 at 11:39 am |
    • Officer of truances of mortalities' graspings

      We always get our meanderings.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:47 am |
  6. Larry

    Demand proof of the existwence of jesus, and you get mainly excuses. Atheists don not – I repeat – do not have to prove that jesus didn't exist. chrisitans, however, must prove he did exist, and cannot. That's why it is called faith – there is not a shred of evidence.

    April 10, 2012 at 11:35 am |
    • Mark from Middle River

      If a person makes a claim then they must back up there claim. Nice try though to get the Atheist off the hook.

      If the Faithful have to back up our claim to Atheist then Atheist will have to expect that the Faithful will require the absolute same from Atheist when they make the claim in the opposite.

      Remember... yall are trying to convince us but do not offer proof.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:40 am |
    • joel

      Show me where the 'missing link' is in the theory of Evolution. There is no factual, tangible evidence that proves definitely that humans evolved from apes. Yet people still believe it. Same thing.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:41 am |
    • Derek

      It is "the ultimate dream of hope" to believe in a fairy tale in which paradise is only reached after you die. Maybe when we die we can no longer hope for anything – at that moment the illusion of heaven won't be sustainable anymore and reality will amaze.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:41 am |
    • Patti

      Joel, DNA so far proves that we all have a common ancestor that lived approximately 160,000 years ago. Before you go poo hooing that evidence, I'm sure you'd believe in the accuracy of DNA if it exonerated you from a crime you didn't commit.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:50 am |
    • Magic Jew

      //Show me where the 'missing link' is in the theory of Evolution. There is no factual, tangible evidence that proves definitely that humans evolved from apes. Yet people still believe it. Same thing.//

      That's not how evolution works. It's not a stepping stone to greatness. It's a gradual divergence based upon environmental selection. We evolved alongside apes over countless generations, just like all the other early hominids we have found who happen to be extinct today.

      I could give you countless pieces of evidence for evolution from the fusion of human chromosome number two to the fact that the giraffe's laryngeal nerve is some 15 feet unnecessarily long because it, like the same nerve in all other mammals, wraps under the aorta and paths back up to the voice box. To imply that we don't have evidence for evolution and then to move the goalposts to human evolution (which is what creationists have been known for in the past, you just jumped to human evolution) is the epitome of intellectual dishonesty.

      We didn't evolve from apes, we share a common ancestor with apes. We evolved alongside apes, and our evolutionary track has become more convoluted since due to the fact that we are manipulating our own environments and actually altering our own evolution. For instance, our appendix would likely have been phased out long ago as we started to maintain a more carnivorous diet were it not for doctors surgically removing the appendix when individuals contract appendicitis. Those individuals would likely die a painful death otherwise and would more often than not produce viable offspring.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:59 am |
  7. Clarification

    It is fact Jesus existed. This raises two scenarios. Was Jesus the Son of God who came to earth to pay the price of sin (Atonement) for those who accept Him? Or, was He just a famous teacher? The later is obvious. As to His divinity, one can only know for sure by sincere study, contemplation, and prayer. Christ is revealed or forever unknown.
    Not knowing this is the fault of the individual.

    April 10, 2012 at 11:31 am |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      "It is fact Jesus existed" No it isn't. Your very first assumption in your argument is flawed. Your "Clarification" is null.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:38 am |
    • Clarification

      Lucifer, your response speaks volumns.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • Sybaris

      "Not knowing this is the fault of the individual."

      Why do people give their omnipotent god a pass?

      April 10, 2012 at 11:53 am |
  8. Elijah Keith

    Let not the Christians be as the Moslems who cannot stand to have even a cartoon of their prophet be set to ridicule.

    April 10, 2012 at 11:30 am |
    • TheBlockedOne

      You are missing the point. No serious scholar of history in world doubts the historocity of Jesus of Nazareth. The principal data as to his birth, life, and death are so well attested as to be indisputable. They are facts of record and are accpeted as authentic by the civilized world at large.

      CNN's past blogs on this topic have just been silly with a clear (yet beyond uneducated) agenda.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:38 am |
    • Fn0rdz

      Even if your statement saying something to the effect of "no serious scholar doubts Jesus' historical existence" (and I doubt that it is), it does NOT follow that this confirms Jesus' existence.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • BRC

      @TheBlockedOne,
      As much as I do believe that Jesus was a real person (although that wasn't his name), I don't think you can say that is a forgone and acepted conclusion. Nor has it been proved beyond doubt, or even proved well. There is some evidence, that mus tbe considered at teh very least biased, but nothing conclussive. There is more evidence for the existence of Mohammed (though neither ahs any evidence of divinity), than there is for the historical existance of Yeshua (seriously, why change the name?).

      April 10, 2012 at 11:50 am |
    • Nonimus

      @TheBlockedOne,
      "The principal data as to his birth, life, and death are so well attested as to be indisputable. They are facts of record and are accpeted as authentic by the civilized world at large."

      I'm sorry, but without the New Testament, which is obviously biased, what attestations and "facts of record" are there? Third hand references by Josephus and Tacitus? I think it is likely that someone named Jesus existed around that time, but it is hardly "indisputable".

      April 10, 2012 at 11:53 am |
  9. Mr Focus

    "While I am an advocate of spiritual exploration – by atheists to disprove or by the faithful to validate "

    Hogwash. You can't disprove a negative. Your faith doesn't prove a thing. If I can touch it it's real.

    April 10, 2012 at 11:30 am |
  10. Theism is not healthy for your sanity and other reasonable things

    It's hilarious how many Christians found an article that portrayed two sides of an argument, pretty fairly I might add, offensive on a personal level. All somebody is doing is disagreeing with your faith, an idea that deserves no more respect or special treatment than your political affiliation.

    Forgive me for not having an iota of sympathy that the worst the 80% majority in the US ever has to put up with is somebody disagreeing with their faith, or Thor forbid not allowing creationism to be taught in public school or saying 'happy holidays' rather than 'merry Christmas'.

    You know what I find offensive? Your faith mucking about in my government – passing laws that curtail the civil liberties or reproductive rights of others, or that force your mythology to be taught in science classes.

    But please, go on telling me how you are soooo persecuted and maligned in a country and political system that caters to nearly your every whim.

    April 10, 2012 at 11:28 am |
    • Andres Conde

      Bravo!

      April 10, 2012 at 11:38 am |
    • Andres Conde

      Totally agree with your comment. Couldn't have said it better.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:38 am |
    • Surprise Surprise

      It's a scam. These self-righteous indignation Christians have never been here before. They heard about it from some Christian website and are flocking here to loudly proclaim they will never go to CNN again . . . but they were never here in the first place.

      It's Christians being dishonest again. If you read the comments, they haven't even read the article. They are like the Christians who flipped out about Monty Python's Life of Brian, but never bothered to see it and find out Jesus was treaated well in that movie.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:53 am |
    • Patti

      Excellent comment!

      April 10, 2012 at 11:53 am |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      I concur

      April 10, 2012 at 11:58 am |
  11. Em

    What evidence has science provided? Science has explanations for things...but again, those explanations only go back so far. Thanks for your inability to hold an intelligent debate without insults. I am secure enough in my position that I can argue it without attacking the other side. Apparently, you feel the need to insult others – what wonderful support for your position. As I said, my support for my position is that science only backs so far in explaining how things work/happen. That is my proof. For example, how do flowers grow? We know that you plant a seed, water it, give it sunlight, and then up pops a pretty flower. But how does the water, sunlight and plant food stimulate a seed to grow? Is it magic that a seed with no capability of moving on its own can suddenly "move" on its own simply because you give it water and light?

    And you don't understand my point about the burden of proof – just because I am claiming something affirmatively, doesn't mean that there is no burden on the opposing side. This is not a lawsuit, where I am making a claim AGAINST you – and even if it were, the moment you assert a defense to my claim, you are required to prove that defense.

    April 10, 2012 at 11:24 am |
    • pccoder

      Nope, it's not magic. If you actually pick up a book (not that absurd bible) and read a little, you'll discover that the educated folks in the world actually do understand how a plant grows, and why.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:29 am |
    • Theism is not healthy for your sanity and other reasonable things

      "As I said, my support for my position is that science only backs so far in explaining how things work/happen."

      Logical fallacy: Argument from Ignorance. That we don't have the answer to a question doesn't give you the right to make one up.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

      April 10, 2012 at 11:31 am |
    • Em

      Pccoder – so please explain it to me. Right down to the very beginning. I want a reason for how and why photosynthesis occurs, or pollination. Not just that "it happens because it happens." And why do people assume that Christians are uneducated morons who only rely on their Bibles for anything? It is such an ignorant and uneducated opinion, which certainly does not support their positions that they live such logical and intelligent lives because they don't believe in God (or any other higher being).

      April 10, 2012 at 11:32 am |
    • Em

      lol, who is making anything up? The Bible specifically says that everything started with God – that is my proof. Just because you limit your beliefs to things written by people in science books doesn't make your arguments 100% credible either. How often are scientific theories disproven? It happens.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:34 am |
    • cybercmdr

      Go back to school and take some advanced Biology classes. You can learn about the biochemistry involved in plant growth, down to the genetic level.
      Does science have all the answers? Of course not. It that were the case we wouldn't still be exploring all the facets of our universe, and advancing our knowledge. That process will never stop as long as there are people with curiosity. There is a big leap though from saying "Science doesn't know everything" to "Therefore, God". If that is your point of view then you are creating a God of ignorance, as the default explanation of all you don't understand.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:36 am |
    • Theism is not healthy for your sanity and other reasonable things

      "lol, who is making anything up? The Bible specifically says that everything started with God – that is my proof. "

      Logical fallacies: Circular reasoning, naked assertion.

      The Bible is true, because the Bible says it is true! LOL

      First you actually need to prove the that everything in the Bible is true and that everything started with God.

      Is this honestly the way you think? No wonder you still believe in imaginary friends.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:40 am |
    • Em

      I am saying that the existence of God could certainly be an explanation for why things happen. And I would actually like to go past the genetic level. Science keeps trying and it will find answers for most things, but it will never be able to explain the source of everything. I know that the source of everything is God – for people who don't believe that, then they keep looking for another source or reason. It's a really tough concept to grasp, and that is why people are constantly searching for the answer through science.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:42 am |
    • Theism is not healthy for your sanity and other reasonable things

      "Science keeps trying and it will find answers for most things, but it will never be able to explain the source of everything. I know that the source of everything is God..."

      When all else fails, double down on the argument from ignorance and the God of the gaps.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:48 am |
    • Elvira Gulch

      Funny how the Christians demand an extreme amount of evidence from the atheists, but provide absolutely none on the basis of their beliefs. Em demands a hyperdetailed explaination of how a plant grows (and of course, she will find any answer insufficient, even though science actually understands that one very well – no God even hinted at in the process), but look at the evidence she supplies for her side – an old collection of Middle Eastern superstitions say it is true therefore it is.

      That is the most dishonest reasoning.

      Em, you say there is a God who does everything. You cannot support that claim with any evidence at all, anywhere in the universe. All you provided was your scriptures, but how do you how they are correct? There is no evidence, and there are many other religions with many other scriptures, and all are mutually incompatible.

      Provide proof that your scripture is the correct scripture – why is it right and, say, Buddhism wrong? You cannot say "my scripture is right because myscripture say it is right", because that would be circular logic, and you would not want to use such a dishonest trick, would you?

      Prove that your god is the correct god.

      Prove that god has anything to do with photosynthesis.

      You are making the extraordinary claim. You must support it.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:49 am |
    • Em

      I don't have to prove everything in the Bible happened – part of being a Christian and believing the Bible is having something called Faith. As in, believing in something when you can't see it or prove it. It is so easy to believe in something tangible that you can see and hear – it is much more difficult to have faith. For the record, I dont think that everything in the Bible happened exactly as so – a lot of it is metaphors and parables, designed to teach and explain rather than provide accurate accounts of actual events. I don't need an explanation or proof, and that is all that matters. If you don't believe it, that is your right.

      And why is my thinking ignorant? If anyone could be described as ignorant on here, I would say it is those with the blind insults, who shall remain nameless.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:52 am |
    • ...

      "I know that the source of everything is God"

      You are a blatant liar!

      April 10, 2012 at 11:52 am |
    • Huh?

      "it is much more difficult to have faith. For the record, I dont think that everything in the Bible happened exactly as so – a lot of it is metaphors and parables, designed to teach and explain rather than provide accurate accounts of actual events. "

      What other handles has the post been made.....come on people......guess! LMAO!

      April 10, 2012 at 11:54 am |
    • Jason

      Em... Really? A seed just moves on its own?? How do have the internet and still post something that can be easily looked up online? Chemical reactions occur causing water to affect the seed along with the sun and nutrients from the soil. You made yourself sound really ignorant and uneducated.. Probably why you put faith in an imaginary friend you call God.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:56 am |
    • Em

      Actually, I did not make the original claim – many atheists are constantly saying that science can explain everything. So I asked them to prove the very source and reason for the growth of a plant. I have yet to see an explanation, just a barage of insults and whining about how I should have to prove the existence of God. Quite honestly, I am done with the conversation because I have yet to receive an answer, despite giving you mine several times. I have faith that God exists, which is all that really matters to me. If you understood what faith meant and how it worked, you would know that I have no tangible proof of God's existence. I see it everyday because I am able to open my eyes, take a breath, eat some food, etc. Science explains how my body works – to a point. Again, I wont go back to that because the point seems to be lost. I would say that it doesn't matter if you believe or don't believe in God so long as you are a good and righteous person, treating others with respect and working for the greater good. However, many of you on here seem to be extremely offensive and insulting people, which is really sad and counterintuitive to your arguments that you are such rational and intelligent people.

      April 10, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
    • DivideByZero

      So Em, who was the source for dinosaurs?

      April 10, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
    • Em

      Divide – great question. Since I think that God had a hand in creating everything, I would say He did. I know that no one else feels the same, which is fine. For the record, I am not an imbyssal who discredits scientific theories and believes solely in creationism. My only point is that I think that everything begins with God – that is the explanation for how things happen and work. Science is simply man's way of figuring it all out.

      Jason – I understand that it happens because of chemical reactions. What causes the reactions and how do they occur? Why do they occur? which is probably the more important question. Seriously people, I am not an idiot. Just trying to show a different perspective, which is more difficult to understand than yours it seems.

      April 10, 2012 at 12:11 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Em
      The difficulty with you argument is one of inifite regression.
      If God created the Universe, what then created God?

      April 10, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
    • Em

      Doc – I agree that my argument is difficult-because you can't rationalize something that is not rational! You will hate my answer but God was never created – he was the beginnng and has always been here. I know, it doesn't make sense. Nothing pertaining to God makes sense, which is why people who try to understand it using logic usually fail in their attempt.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
  12. Sciver

    CNN has been incredible at opening up its columns to comments which do not suit typical views.

    CNN should be commended on its efforts for being more rounded and offering free expression to its readers around the world.

    Myth means it just doesn't make logical sense and that it is a story. No actual proof to backup the story, contradictory information, implausibility, seeing other stories exactly like it with same significance, subject line, conflict, resolve, really makes it untrue and unless provided with actual real facts shouldn't be dealt with except as amusement. All religion is myth. No miracles, no reincarnation, no talking with angels, talking to God, and sure some of the names in the famous religions did have actual real people in them like Jesus and Mohammad but really that was about it. If people spent their time improving themselves, studied for good paying meaningful job that helped others we would all be better off than if they read the Bible, or Koran all day.

    April 10, 2012 at 11:23 am |
  13. Pipe-Dreamer

    God was and is and ever onward will be God the Everlasting only Immortal Being!

    April 10, 2012 at 11:23 am |
    • anotherview

      Smoking something strange in that pipe of yours? Having delusions of grandeur? Having delusions that your man made god is actually talking to you?

      If it weren't for religion, people like you would be locked up in insane asylums, given drugs to control you, put you into padded cells, and put under watch to see if you were going to try to either hurt yourself or other people.

      Now, put that pipe down!

      April 10, 2012 at 11:38 am |
    • Pipe-Dreamer

      anotherview,,,,,,,, 🙂

      Just because I call myself a "Pipe" Dreamer does not mean I stoke a Pipe,,,,,,, Such misconceptions are normal for very younged foolhardy Atheisms and the Religious alike to awkwardly and defiantly make mood-swinging alters of semi-rational constructs. At 57, I could be "your father Luke"! May the "midichlorians" give you the Force in which to weild justly!

      April 10, 2012 at 11:54 am |
    • anotherview

      Pipe-dreamer, I just happen to be older than you are. So, put that in your pipe and smoke on it.

      You are still deluded into thinking there are gods, angels, devils, satans, hell and man made messiahs. Hasn't your advanced age taught you anything about believing in rumors, fantasy stories and fairy tales?

      You seriously need to read more. Go ahead and delve into the bible more and more. I hope you do. Make sure you read all of the books mentioned in the bible too. Read as many of the side line gospels you can, and make sure you make notes from the beginning to the very end. I'll be willing to bet that you will find all kinds of contradictions, absurdities and even lies contained within those "holy" pages of text. If you don't, you really are missing something..

      April 10, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
  14. Magic Jew

    The Bible is so easily falsified given even a middle school student's understanding of science. And given the violent, male-dominated recent past of our species, the stories contained thereof are quite easily chalked up to cultural origin and not some mystical previously unknown truth about the nature of the universe and the purpose of our species.

    April 10, 2012 at 11:19 am |
    • pccoder

      I agree 100%. What is so shocking to me is how so many seemingly educated people can still hold on to such ridiculous nonsense as "God". It is mindboggling.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:23 am |
    • Nat

      pccoder, educated people still lose their lives. if u think being educated is sufficient to sustain ur life, go right on. just hope that on ur death bed all ur questions and answers don't come haunting u.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:30 am |
    • HamsterDancer

      procoder,
      I understand seeing the various faiths as "mind-boggling". But science has shown that a non-rational (not irrational) inclination towards spiritual beliefs is literally hard wired into the human brain.

      http://edition.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/04/04/neurotheology/

      Why that is can be conjectured on. In a purely scientific viewpoint it could be a survival mechanism. If a person is lost at sea or in a desert with no hope, belief that a higher force is on their side might provide added incentive to stay alive or search for further means to keep going longer until he is either rescued or rescues himself. Then he can mate and help perpetuate the species.
      Or it could be the non-rational side of human nature, the side where creativity, art, emotions, and intuition come from is sensing something that cannot be logically deduced.
      I don't know which. The decision is up to the individual. But that people believe in this stuff is inherent in human beings.

      April 10, 2012 at 12:04 pm |
  15. mike

    Easter is NOT a Christian holiday. It existed well before Christians re-purposed it for their own semi-related holiday. It has always been a celebration of spring. Hence the whole thing with eggs. Hello? NOTHING to do with Christ or the Resurrection. It's just that the whole resurrection theme jived well with the whole "rejuvenation of spring" theme, so they piggybacked on it.

    Need more proof? "Easter" is just a respelling of "Eostre"...a pagan goddess. Whoops!

    Same goes with Christmas. Sure, they successfully labeled it as a Christian holiday, but NONE of that yule-tide/holly/gift giving stuff has the least to do with Christianity.

    Christians get up in arms with what they feel are encroachments on their holidays, but the bottom line is it is Christianity that encroached, and these traditions that so many Christians feel get in the way of the "reason" for their holiday were actually there first.

    So stop with the misdirected outrage.

    April 10, 2012 at 11:19 am |
    • reason

      Christianity apparently ripped much of its folklore from previous pagan religions.

      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlnnWbkMlbg&w=640&h=360]

      April 10, 2012 at 11:24 am |
  16. Reality

    Jesus and some added notes:

    (ONLY FOR THE NEWCOMERS)

    1. origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482

    “New Torah For Modern Minds

    Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

    Such startling propositions – the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years – have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity – until now.

    The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine docu-ment. “

    2. Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Ludemann, Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

    The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.

    earlychristianwritings.com/theories.html

    For added "pizzazz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".

    Current RCC problems:

    Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!

    2 b., Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).

    Current problems:
    Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,

    3. Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

    This agenda continues as shown by the ma-ssacre in Mumbai, the as-sas-sinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, and the Filipino “koranics”.

    And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

    Current crises:

    The Sunni-Shiite blood feud and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.

    4. Hinduism (from an online Hindu site) – "Hinduism cannot be described as an organized religion. It is not founded by any individual. Hinduism is God centered and therefore one can call Hinduism as founded by God, because the answer to the question ‘Who is behind the eternal principles and who makes them work?’ will have to be ‘Cosmic power, Divine power, God’."

    The caste/laborer system, reincarnation and cow worship/reverence are problems when saying a fair and rational God founded Hinduism."

    Current problems:

    The caste system, reincarnation and cow worship/reverence.

    5. Buddhism- "Buddhism began in India about 500 years before the birth of Christ. The people living at that time had become disillusioned with certain beliefs of Hinduism including the caste system, which had grown extremely complex. The number of outcasts (those who did not belong to any particular caste) was continuing to grow."

    "However, in Buddhism, like so many other religions, fanciful stories arose concerning events in the life of the founder, Siddhartha Gautama (fifth century B.C.):"

    Archaeological discoveries have proved, beyond a doubt, his historical character, but apart from the legends we know very little about the circu-mstances of his life. e.g. Buddha by one legend was supposedly talking when he came out of his mother's womb.

    Bottom line: There are many good ways of living but be aware of the hallucinations, embellishments, lies, and myths surrounding the founders and foundations of said rules of life.

    Then, apply the Five F rule: "First Find the Flaws, then Fix the Foundations". And finally there will be religious peace and religious awareness in the world!!!!!

    April 10, 2012 at 11:18 am |
    • So Much Wrong

      I'm not even a theist and there's so many flaws with this post it's not funny. You might want to take your own advice and fix the flaws, especially if you're so (excuse the religious word) hellbent on converting the heathen believers. Take out your opinions and leave the facts.

      There is no way for archaeology to disprove the existence of someone specific, that's just stupid. If you're claiming a certain civilization never existed or certain species were not present somewhere, then sure, invoke archaeological evidence. The further back you go in time, the less likely you are to find evidence of anyone's existance, due to destruction of records (thanks to Christian/Muslim wars), lack of writers (due to lack of education of the masses) and lack of technology (electronic records now are backed up and not likely to be lost to time, whereas writings and oral traditions disappeared as civilizations were conquered and assimiliated).

      There is no way to disprove the existence of angels or conclusively prove all these people were hallucinating. But even pretending that you can and they were, there is no link between hallucinations of angels and the current issues of se-xually aberrant practices practiced by clergy (the more correct link is between power and aberrant practices).

      You also cannot attribute the caste system to religion, it's been in existance in places where Hinduism/Buddhism did not exist and, again, is more a result of abuse of power and attempts to maintain it than due to these religions.

      The sad fact of the matter is most of the world's problems are a result of the wealthy and powerful seeking to consolidate their wealth and power. Religion has been used as a tool, it is true, as part of this. All the social issues currently perceived as a conflict between religion and secularism would be just as prevalent were religion not to be existant. Religions are simply a collection or moral and philosophical ideas, often tied to a belief in the divine. The same people who were brilliant orators and philosophers would still have had their ideas and people still would have bought into them and adhered to them even if they didn't invoke deities. Jesus would just be another Plato, Moses another Socrates. Even today, there are atheists who are pro/anti abortion, pro/anti gay marriage, pro/anti welfare, etc. The only difference is their arguments don't invoke a divine law, but they still use the same reasoning as their theist counterparts.

      April 10, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
    • Reality

      AND THE INFAMOUS ANGELIC CONS CONTINUE TO WREAK STUPIDITY UPON THE WORLD

      Joe Smith had his Moroni.

      "Latter-day Saints also believe that Michael the Archangel was Adam (the first man) when he was mortal, and Gabriel lived on the earth as Noah."

      Jehovah Witnesses have their Jesus /Michael the archangel, the first angelic being created by God;

      Mohammed had his Gabriel (this "tin-kerbell" got around).

      Jesus and his family had Michael, Gabriel, and Satan, the latter being a modern day dem-on of the de-mented.

      The Abraham-Moses myths had their Angel of Death and other "no-namers" to do their dirty work or other assorted duties.

      Contemporary biblical and religious scholars have relegated these "pretty wingie thingies" to the myth pile. We should do the same to include deleting all references to them in our religious operating manuals. Doing this will eliminate the prophet/profit/prophecy status of these founders and put them where they belong as simple humans just like the rest of us.

      Some added references to "tink-erbells".

      newadvent.org/cathen/07049c.htm

      "The belief in guardian angels can be traced throughout all antiquity; pagans, like Menander and Plutarch (cf. Euseb., "Praep. Evang.", xii), and Neo-Platonists, like Plotinus, held it. It was also the belief of the Babylonians and As-syrians, as their monuments testify, for a figure of a guardian angel now in the British Museum once decorated an As-syrian palace, and might well serve for a modern representation; while Nabopolassar, father of Nebuchadnezzar the Great, says: "He (Marduk) sent a tutelary deity (cherub) of grace to go at my side; in everything that I did, he made my work to succeed."
      Catholic monks and Dark Age theologians also did their share of hallu-cinating:

      "TUBUAS-A member of the group of angels who were removed from the ranks of officially recognized celestial hierarchy in 745 by a council in Rome under Pope Zachary. He was joined by Uriel, Adimus, Sabaoth, Simiel, and Raguel."

      And tin-ker- bells go way, way back:

      "In Zoroastrianism there are different angel like creatures. For example each person has a guardian angel called Fravashi. They patronize human being and other creatures and also manifest god’s energy. Also, the Amesha Spentas have often been regarded as angels, but they don't convey messages, but are rather emanations of Ahura Mazda ("Wise Lord", God); they appear in an abstract fashion in the religious thought of Zarathustra and then later (during the Achaemenid period of Zoroastrianism) became personalized, associated with an aspect of the divine creation (fire, plants, water...)."

      "The beginnings of the biblical belief in angels must be sought in very early folklore. The gods of the Hitti-tes and Canaanites had their supernatural messengers, and parallels to the Old Testament stories of angels are found in Near Eastern literature. "

      "The 'Magic Papyri' contain many spells to secure just such help and protection of angels. From magic traditions arose the concept of the guardian angel. "

      For added information see the review at:

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel

      April 10, 2012 at 3:13 pm |
  17. Krush

    I am most surprised the sheer ignorance of the subject matter displayed by so many people who have posted their opinions of Christianity. Where in the world do people get such crazy ideas of what it means to be Christian? The unintelligent and intolerant remarks of people who claim that knowledge, logic, and reason are their guides reeks of sheer hypocrisy. If you claim to seek fact, at least do your homework before you make a decision and post such sewage in these discussions. Talk with a Christian who knows their faith and ask questions. Don't waste time trying to learn about a religion from an atheist or agnostic who has no expertise or historical knowledge, go and talk to an expert. And for crying out loud, you atheists believe in the "big bang" with little evidence other than what someone has written or says. It's no less foolish to believe a bunch of fallible atheist human writings about where the universe came from than it is to believe the a bunch of fallible religious human writings about where the universe came from. Either way, you're using faith.

    April 10, 2012 at 11:17 am |
    • pccoder

      It's ignorant to believe an Atheist can't have as much historical perspective as a Christian. Believe it or not, we can read too. We went to church at some point in our life too.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:24 am |
    • UncleM

      Total fail. Science is based on critical thinking and a vast canon of knowledge. Religion was made up by bronze age goat herders. (No offence meant if you are currently a goat herder).

      April 10, 2012 at 11:26 am |
    • seraphim0

      Actually, Krush, on the whole of it, you will find more agnostics and atheists that are well versed in various religions than those who are not. That is, of course, provided you actually seek out these individuals and do not settle for internet flame-war starting aggressors that just go out to troll for lulz. Or those who simply had a bad experience with religion and now curse all religion. Atheists and Agnostics who make the conscious decision to follow their beliefs out of their rooted beliefs are usually, on the whole, more knowledgeable about the various religions than your every day religious practicioner.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:29 am |
    • Magic Jew

      //And for crying out loud, you atheists believe in the "big bang" with little evidence other than what someone has written or says. It's no less foolish to believe a bunch of fallible atheist human writings about where the universe came from than it is to believe the a bunch of fallible religious human writings about where the universe came from. Either way, you're using faith.//

      Actually, Big Bang cosmology is backed by plenty of evidence and was originally proposed by a Catholic priest. Atheism requires no belief, and it certainly requires no acceptance of modern science. It's just that generally atheists come to be atheists *because* they have some semblance of understanding of modern science. Or because they find your stories about talking snakes, rib women, misogynistic, spiteful, vindicated, petty sky fairies, magic Jews resurrecting from the dead, and so forth to be ridiculous. Or a combination of the two.

      Science is science. Just because the evidence points to an old universe, a large universe, and an expanding universe doesn't mean cosmologists are actively trying to make such a picture of the universe the case. And just because your holy book is at odds with such a picture of the universe doesn't mean cosmologists are actively trying to discredit your holy book. I guess reality just has an atheistic bias.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:30 am |
    • Jim

      The difference is, we don't consider the "big bang" to be an absolute from an infallible being. Ours is not "faith", just conditional acceptance of the best explanation currently possible. Saying God did it is not even an explanation, it's just a way of dodging the question.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:33 am |
    • FSM

      I am an atheist because I read and studied the bible and other holy books extensively and found them all to be equally nonsensical.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:33 am |
    • pat

      You're another one who doesn't know the difference between religion and science. You don't need faith to believe science but you need it to believe religion because it is presented without evidence.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:49 am |
    • logan5

      Although a theory, the evidence pointing to the entire universe beginning at a single point (The Big Bang) can be measured, quantified and observed. So when you can provide at least that much empirical evidence for the existence of the Christian god then by all means bring it. Till then, save us the pointless and desperate rhetoric.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:53 am |
  18. Jimmy Cracks Capricorns

    I am always amazed at what a bunch of insecure idolizers Christians can become by simply exposing their lack of credibility for what it is. A hoax...they can't stand it because they can't imagine the world without their beloved little story "...well, what will we tell our kids?...think of the children!..." And they do nothing to stop the murder of hundreds of thousands of poor people in the name of their country in far away lands like Iraq.

    April 10, 2012 at 11:15 am |
    • JM

      True Christians (not the ones who spend their time hating others) are the ones I see most who give away their time and money to help others. They often choose to serve the poor in places that no one else would think of going simply because of the love of God/Christ and His teaching to love/serve others.

      Don't base your opinion of Christianity on random people you don't like; actually read Jesus' teachings; then you might learn something: what He was actually about (and not your slanted, incorrect ideas of what He taught).

      April 10, 2012 at 11:55 am |
    • OhPlease

      "They often choose to serve the poor in places that no one else would think of going simply because of the love of God/Christ and His teaching to love/serve others."

      And to make sure the convert more to their cult, they often require the people to sit through sermons, etc...

      April 10, 2012 at 11:57 am |
    • JM

      Not the ones I'm talking about. They will pray with them, yes, but people don't usually flee from someone who sincerely, lovingly wants to pray for them (rather than acting like they care but really just wanting to add a number of converts to some weird checklist).

      We can use all the help we can get. This world is messed up.

      April 10, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
  19. hex2323

    We must respect all people, including Christians. Posting stories positing the non existence of their God on a Holy Day is disrespectful. Almost all relgions teach us to respect others. And I'm sure my athiest friends feel the same. Respect is the key here. It's not about which religion is right or wrong or true or false or which God can beat up which.

    You, all of you as human beings including CNN and all posters on these articles, you could chose respect. All arguments on this topic are unnecessary. If we plan to be decent people, we need to respect their beliefs no matter how strange or made up they seem to us.

    April 10, 2012 at 11:15 am |
    • Jimmy Cracks Capricorns

      Do you respect the delusional bi-polar man on the street who stops traffic? This is what religion represents to mankind...mass delusion and the holding back of mankind. Science and engineering solve problems, not some BS mythical flying sky genie and his hoard of floating cherubs.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:17 am |
    • reason

      Then you must respect my view that your religious beliefs are myths from iron age socieities and that blind faith is counter productive to human progress.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:22 am |
    • pccoder

      Nope, sorry. Respecting idiocracy only prolongs the madness. Someday we'll look back and laugh at "relegion". Some of us don't have to wait, we're already laughing.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:26 am |
    • JT

      You Christians should take your own advice and stop pushing your god a religion on the rest of us. Reinstate our own national motto, take your "we trust in our sky daddy" off our currency, reinstate our national pledge, etc. Allow others who are not part of your religion hold public office.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • Jeff E.

      I think that's a very reasonable request. The replies you have received unfortunately illustrate that for many, blind hatred is the foundation for their anti-religious sentiments. Look at the vast majority of the posts attempting to disprove religion. In how many is the intelligence of a believer attacked? Those who hate religion are oblivious to their own faith in their ego and the ability of their limited intellect to comprehend the universe. Science requires as much faith as religion when it comes to answering the big questions.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:50 am |
    • pat

      And you too shall respect the atheist and welcome the viewpoint that all religions are false, not all except one, and that belief without evidence is a delusion and there is never any reason to be quiet about this.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:57 am |
      • hex2323

        I said I did. Read my post.

        BTW people, I could be an Agnostic or even an Athiest. Guessing I'm Christian is an assumption you cannot make.

        April 12, 2012 at 10:34 am |
    • Rob

      Jimmy Cracks Capricorns your generalizations are a short cut to thinking. I would expect more from such and advanced individual as yourself.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:59 am |
  20. seyedibar

    Religion is for idiots... but that's okay. As an American, you have a right ot believe in stupid unfounded nonsense as long as you keep it away from other people's lives.

    April 10, 2012 at 11:14 am |
    • Nat

      wow, religion is for idiots, u really r far gone aren't u? u do realise if u were born 300 years ago, u wouldn't even fathom the idea. u just hope what u think is true

      April 10, 2012 at 11:21 am |
    • Magic Jew

      //u do realise if u were born 300 years ago, u wouldn't even fathom the idea. u just hope what u think is true//

      That's because this individual would probably have been burned at the stake in the name of your religion if he denied its validity 300 years ago.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:33 am |
    • BK

      The ONLY reason Christianity is a large religion is because of their tendency to commit genocide against any other religion. The one thing we owe to Islam, despite being equally as bad, is that they kept Christianity from slaughtering the whole world.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:50 am |
    • JM

      Many people you probably respect are then idiots. People make these type of statements but then don't bother to ask "who is a Christian that I respect?"

      So many people, historically and current, who are extremely well-educated are believers.

      Fact

      April 10, 2012 at 11:52 am |
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