BYU student video on homosexuality is not in violation of honor code, says administrator
One unnamed male student in the BYU video says he had thoughts of suicide.
April 9th, 2012
06:52 PM ET

BYU student video on homosexuality is not in violation of honor code, says administrator

By Dan Merica, CNN

(CNN)-– The students featured in a video about being gay at Brigham Young University are not in obvious violation of the honor code, according to Carri Jenkins, an assistant to the president of BYU.

Jenkins went on to say that for the video alone, the students would not be punished. The honor code, Jenkins said, is “based on conduct, not on feeling, and if same-gender attraction is only stated, that is not an honor code issue.”

All BYU students sign on to the honor code upon enrollment. The code outlaws premarital sex and breaking the code “may result in actions up to and including separation from the university.”

“Homosexual behavior is inappropriate and violates the honor code. Homosexual behavior includes not only sexual relations between members of the same sex, but all forms of physical intimacy that give expression to homosexual feelings,” reads the honor code.

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The 9 minute, 37 second video features a number of gay, lesbian and bisexual students around BYU and is part of the larger “It Gets Better” video campaign started by writer Dan Savage. The project was started in response to a rash of suicides of teenagers who were bullied for being gay. The goal of the videos is to let people know they are not alone and that life gets better.

“It is very different to be gay and Mormon because it feels like neither community accepts you completely,” said Bridey Jensen, acting president of the group Understanding Same-Gender Attraction. “We put out the message for youth that are going through this and we want them to know that we were them a few years ago and it gets better and there is a place for you.”

Jensen’s organization is not recognized by the university, but she did say that professors and administrators have been supportive of what the group is trying to do.

The BYU video is unique in the fact that it discusses being gay at a university that has consistently been ranked as the most unfriendly campus for LGBT students in the country, according to Princeton Review.

Brigham Young is owned and operated by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and many of the school’s board members are also church officials.

In 2007, the honor code was changed to state that it is based on conduct, not on feeling. Jenkins said, however, that the university observed that policy even before the rule change.

“One's stated sexual orientation is not an honor code issue,” was added in 2007.

Throughout the video, students speak of the hardships they have encountered. In some instances, students talk about their thoughts of suicide.

"I thought that eventually maybe it would be better if I died," said one unnamed male student, "so I did everything I could to really be that perfect Mormon. I thought that was going to cure myself."

Jenkins said what concerned her most about the videos was the talk of suicide.

“I hoped they would use the services available to them and that they would take advantage of the professional services that we have,” Jenkins said, speaking about the university's counseling services.

Though Jensen acknowledged the hardships of being gay and Mormon, she said that in her leadership of this unaffiliated group she has seen an unexpected changing attitude among Mormons toward gay rights.

Jensen said she believes that while church doctrine has not changed, feelings toward LGBT members of the church have.

“I am not sure how much the doctrine or policy within the church will change, but there is definitely a changing of how they treat the issue and how they treat the people who are gay,” Jensen said. “It is definitely getting better within the church. They are not so quick to judge. They understand that they don’t understand everything.”

Richard Bushman, a pre-eminent scholar on the doctrine and history of Mormonism, echoed Jensen. He says the fact this debate is even allowed to occur is a signal of liberalization in attitudes toward homosexuality in Mormonism.

“The last 10 years have been a huge sea change in terms of willingness to accept homosexuals,” Bushman said. “Gay kids are still going to have a tough time in the church, but this level of acceptance and acknowledgement, that is really that last decade I would say.”

Even within the last decade, however, the church has had a confrontational history with gay rights. When Proposition 8, a state constitutional amendment to make same-sex marriage illegal in California, was challenged, Mormons contributed half the $40 million war chest that was used to defend the proposition, according to TIME magazine. Mormons made up 2% of the Californian population.

During the Proposition 8 debate, the church leadership penned a letter that was to be read to all congregations on June 29, 2008.

“We ask that you do all you can to support the proposed constitutional amendment by donating of your means and time to assure that marriage in California is legally defined as being between a man and a woman,” read the letter. “Our best efforts are required to preserve the sacred institution of marriage.”

The response from gay rights activists was fierce; many accused the church of bigotry and blind religious obedience.

Jensen, however, as a gay Mormon, took a more nuanced look at the Proposition 8 debate.

“I think that what Prop 8 was all about was the church has a stance that eternal marriage is between a man and a woman,” Jensen said. “As a religious institution, they have every right to protect that.”

Jensen said that while the church defended that position, congregants at large “don’t view us [LGBT Mormons] any different.”

In the video, the students state that 1,800 students at BYU are members of the LGBT community. According to Jensen, those numbers were extrapolated from national numbers that show between 6% and 10% of people have homosexual urges at some point in their lives.

With around 34,000 students at BYU, Jensen said they figured around 1,800 would have experience homosexual urges.

Jenkins disputes those numbers, stating that the university has never collected data on the number of LGBT students at BYU. Those numbers are not “scientifically valid,” Jenkins said.

soundoff (659 Responses)
  1. Steve

    I thought Jesus was compassionate and empathetic with all people, not judgmental and bigoted. I guess the bible I read must have been wrong.

    April 10, 2012 at 1:38 pm |

      The problem is organized religion period. Keep it to yourself and out of the work place and politics. everyone has the right to their own religion

      April 10, 2012 at 1:39 pm |
    • Steve (a different one)

      You mean the Christ who said, "go and SIN no more"?
      You mean the Christ who said, "sin no more lest a worse thing befall you"?
      You mean the Christ who said, "I never knew you. Depart from me ye workers of iniquity."?

      April 10, 2012 at 5:45 pm |
  2. Clay

    Mormon's are just a rip off of Christianity. They made up their own religion because they didn't like the real deal, which is Christianity.

    April 10, 2012 at 1:36 pm |

      Isnt Christainity a rip off of judeism? Religions evolve. Which is why we have seperation of Church and state. Anyone that believes their religion is superior needs to go live with the Taliban

      April 10, 2012 at 1:37 pm |
    • ChrisS

      Hahaha, please tell me you didn't just use the phrase "Real Deal" to speak about Christianity. If you want to use words like 'Real', how bout opening a science book. The last thing you need to call your holy book and ridiculous judgements of people is 'the real deal'. You are the reason so many of us feel so strongly opposed to 'the church'. Bigot.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Christian’s are just a rip off of Catholicism. They made up their own religion because they didn't like the real deal, which is Catholicism.

      Catholic's are just a rip off of Judaism. They made up their own religion because they didn't like the real deal, which is Judaism.

      ect ect...

      April 10, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
    • Primewonk

      @ Realist – and Judeism was ripped off from other minor tribal deities in the area at the time.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:47 pm |
    • toddquinn

      "Real" deal? I see. So it's "real" because Christians said it's "real". Talk about the fox guarding the hen house. I think there would be a large population of Islamics, Buddhists, Hindus, and even agnostics and atheists that would disagree.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
    • sam stone

      Christianity, in turn, is a rip off of other religions

      April 10, 2012 at 2:53 pm |
    • Mormon32775

      Clay...Which one?

      April 10, 2012 at 5:08 pm |
    • Dwight Rogers

      If Christianity means “historic orthodox mainstream Christianity” of today then I would agree that Mormonism is not historic Christianity; at least not in every doctrine. Although Mormons have much in common with other Christians Mormons also believe differently than historic Christians in some key areas. But the real questions to ask are 1) What is original Christianity? 2) Is mainstream Christianity of today the same as original Christianity? It turns out that Joseph Smith was right. Mormonism is a restoration of Original Christianity. Many Christians of today are following non-Christian traditions developed in later centuries and are just calling it Christianityi.

      “Trinity’ is a word not used in the Bible. Our first Article of Faith states: We believe in God the Eternal Father, and in His son Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost. In 325 AD a council of about 300 (out of 1800 serving) bishops gathered in Nicea at the request of the pagan Emperor Constantine and formulated a creed that tried to reconcile the Biblical statements that there three persons called “God” and yet there was “one” God. They then forced all Christians to accept their solution as “gospel”, with varying results. Theological debates and other councils continued to tweak the concept for centuries.

      Mormons are not supposed to be Christian because we have some doctrinal differences with other Christian groups of today. The foundation for the beliefs of these other groups is the creeds of the 4th. 5th, and 6th centuries and so on.

      It is claimed that Mormons are wrong because they believe in extra-Biblical revelation and scripture. Yet much of Christianity believes in extra-Biblical creeds and councils formulated centuries after the time of Christ and the Apostles. Most of the wording formulations in these creeds cannot be found in the Bible. This is often the excuse used to exclude members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) from being Christian. It is well known to historians that Christian doctrine changed over time and across different Christian groups.

      The Bible is then viewed through the lens of these creeds causing certain interpretations to be favored and other biblical teachings to be minimized or ignored. Interestingly, if you look at the doctrines of the early church fathers before the creeds, they are very Mormon-like. In a number of doctrinal areas the early Christians were good Mormons and would be rejected as non-Christian by many Christians of today.

      In many areas of belief (probably the majority of areas) Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) believe the same as most other Christians. It is true that in some limited areas – some very critical ones – the beliefs of Mormons differ from other Christians. Likewise there are some major areas of difference between Catholics and Protestants and likewise between one Protestant group and the next. Every denomination could make the claim that the other groups are not Christian because those other beliefs differ from their own.

      Joseph Smith taught “The fundamental principles of our religion are the testimony of the Apostles and Prophets, concerning Jesus Christ, that He died, was buried, and rose again the third day, and ascended into heaven; and all other things which pertain to our religion are only appendages to it”. (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 121).

      The central belief of Mormons is that Christ came into the world as the Son of God. He healed the sick, caused the lame to walk, the blind to see, the deaf to hear, and restored life to the dead. He commissioned twelve Apostles to whom he gave authority. He suffered in Gethsemane, died on the cross, and was resurrected and will come again. He, and only He, provides the means for us to be washed clean in his blood from our sins, which sins we can never correct on our own or through our own works. If that is not Christian I don’t know what is. Christ never taught the need to believe in anything like the creeds. Those came later.

      Mormon belief is very much like the teachings of the earlier Christians – before the creeds – and also matches the teachings of Christ and the Apostles. The further back in time you go the more Mormon-like Christian doctrine becomes. Mormons are often portrayed as non-Christian when we don’t believe in the later extra-Biblical creedal formulations.

      The early Christians did not have the extra-Biblical creeds of later centuries. Were they then not Christian? The ontological debates and the wording formations of later centuries are not found in the words of Jesus or the words of the Apostles or in the words of the pre-creedal Christians . There is not a word about a one substance god in the Bible or in the early beliefs. If believing in the creeds is necessary to be Christian then that makes the earlier Christians not Christian – it even makes Christ not Christian.

      One other interesting aspect of this topic: Some Christians claim that we must get our beliefs and doctrines from the Bible only. It is claimed that God finished his work and no longer has prophets or gives revelation. They say the Mormons are wrong to have prophets and extra scripture. Consider this: If the Bible is sufficient and no post-Biblical revelation is allowed, then the post-Biblical creeds are not necessary and are not authorized by God. If God authorized the creeds then why aren’t they in the Bible? How could they be from God if the Bible is complete, if God has finished his work, and if there is no more revelation? They are extra-Biblical and no one should be held to them as a requirement to be Christian. It is so ironic that Mormons are criticized for having extra-Biblical revelation by people who themselves believe in extra-Biblical creeds. Once one puts on the glasses of the creeds then everything in the Bible is filtered to match the creeds.

      Mormons believe in original Christianity restored to the earth through revelation to new prophets. Nowhere does the Bible say that God has finished his work, that the cannon of scripture is closed. It seems ironic to us that we Mormons are accused of adding to the Bible by people who have done just that – added creeds and metaphysical definitions to the Bible. We advocate for believing original Christianity.

      April 11, 2012 at 9:12 pm |
  3. joe in ca

    what a nut job religion. no way is mittens going to win being associated with a bunch of screwballs ike this

    April 10, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
  4. Joe

    gays suck.

    April 10, 2012 at 1:28 pm |

      you dont have a significant other do u. Its getting to you. Its time to lose wait and invest in your appearance more

      April 10, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
    • Nealb4

      Yes, Joe we do. Was that the rocket science course you took?

      April 10, 2012 at 1:35 pm |
    • Ummm

      Joe, seek help for your low self esteem issues.

      April 10, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
  5. J.W

    I think Baylor has a similar policy about being gay. Brittany Griner is obviously a lesbian but she cannot come out at Baylor.

    April 10, 2012 at 1:28 pm |
  6. James

    I am so glad I am a student at Utah Valley University instead of BYU. BYU has some ridiculously strict policies, and I would probably say it is one of the least "free" (in terms of personal freedoms) schools in the US. In fact, BYU pretty much prohibits student clubs unless they are managed/run by an administrator. UVU, which is only a few miles west of BYU allows for student clubs, and we have a pretty large gay straight alliance here. Gay students actively write about their lives and their experiences in our student paper without fear of getting kicked out of the university.

    Oh well, I guess it is in the nature and history for BYU to be a discriminatory university. They didn't accept african american students until the 1970s even. Nothing new here really.

    April 10, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
    • mark

      If your gay don't go to BYU. It's a school that cleary isn't for gay or for students that want to "party". Don't knock it accept it.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
    • Mormon32775

      It’s a privately owned school...(not public)...It has the right to make rules that coalesce with its beliefs...If you find the rules restrictive, don't go there...

      April 10, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
    • stu


      Good job advocating UVU. At least at BYU students can get a job outside of school.

      April 11, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
  7. kurtinco

    Mormons suck.

    April 10, 2012 at 1:26 pm |

      Christians are responsible for more persecution that Mormons. So why do Mormons suck agian?

      April 10, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
    • Bluto

      You suck more idiot

      April 10, 2012 at 1:37 pm |
  8. Bootyfunk

    why do g.a.y.s want to be in a club that hates them?

    April 10, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
    • Nonimus

      What club? I thought they were talking about a university, shouldn't that be about education, not who likes who as in a "club". I also thought university was run by a church that claims to love and accept everyone - isn't that a Christian thing somewhere?

      April 10, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
    • Primewonk

      Whole religious sects (SBC) were formed based on the fact that these idiots were just positive that god wanted them to own black people. Yet black people are some of the most fundamentalist christians.

      The bible is filled with misogyny, yet women flock to the church.

      Apparently god also hates dwarfs, folks with acne, folks with bad eyesight, menstuating women, men without facial hair, etc.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
    • Nonimus

      "men without facial hair"
      Alright, that does it! How dare they?! The only way they'll get my razor is to pry it from my cold dead fingers!!

      ... or grab it from the medicine cabinet in my bathroom, but that's not the point.

      April 10, 2012 at 4:10 pm |
  9. JAB62

    Remember religious bigots, you're all god's creatures. What would Jesus do? I'm pretty sure he would be disgusted to see how LGBTs are treated in the world, especially by christians.

    April 10, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
  10. Joe

    Bull Dung, just by saying that you prove that you are just as bad as what you are PREACHING about.

    April 10, 2012 at 1:19 pm |

    CNN stop trying to make Mormon religion an issue? I am Jewish and can only imagine what stories you would be running about us. The current president is Christian which has persecuted far more groups than any religion that has ever existed!!!

    April 10, 2012 at 1:19 pm |
    • David

      Agreed, realist. Some of these comment boards are a study in contradiction at times. People are eager to (rightfully) defend the LGBT community from aggressors, but too often commenters become aggressors towards people of faith. If we preach tolerance, let's walk the walk. People of faith should treat the LGBT community with love, respect, and empathy. Non-religious folks should treat religious people with love, respect, and empathy. Period.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      When someone is being aggressive you have the right to defend yourself. Let see you try to hug the next guy who takes a swing at you.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:48 pm |

    Keep religion out of politics

    April 10, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • Kalessin

      Keep politics out of religion

      April 10, 2012 at 1:50 pm |

    Keep religion out of politics. Nice try CNN to turn tables on Romney Mormon faith

    April 10, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • Bill

      If we want to keep religion out of politics, then we must keep Romney out of politics!
      Romney = Religious Fanatic

      April 10, 2012 at 1:23 pm |

      Romney has every right to practice what ever relgion he wants. You call him a fanatic? R you kidding. The fact people can not see past Catholicism/Chrisitianity in this coutnry is absurd. What a person is does not matter. Its how they protect the consitution and all our rights that matters.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:25 pm |
    • Kalessin

      Hmmm, should Harry Reid be kicked out of politics too? He's Mormon.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      @ REALIST
      I’m going to need you to come back to reality bud. CNN isn’t picking on Mormons. They run critical stories for all groups including main stream Christians and Atheist. Pointing out the negative aspect should be encouraged as it promotes change. Your victim politics are blight on civil rights.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:52 pm |
    • anonops

      if obama's birth can be questioned then analyzing one's religious beliefs is nothing at all

      April 10, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
  14. Brad

    I can't think of any other news story recently regarding any issue pertaining to the LGBT community that shows people acting so civily and compassionately towards each other. I admire the Mormon community for this.

    April 10, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
    • ThaGerm

      You have lost your F-ing mind? What they say in public during an election year is NOT the same as they say in church on Sundays. Yes, my wife is a FORMER Mormon and you WOULD NOT believe the crazy that comes out of that place. You know that the Mormons spent in excess of 20 million dollars in the State of California trying to ban gay marriage right? Does that sound like a community that supports gay unions of any kind? No, they don't, but they will put out ads claiming they do in order to soften the public's perception of their kind of crazy...especially when Mitt is running for President.

      Mormons banned coffee, tea and soda...until they bought a beverage company and now soda is back on the list.
      Mormons banned polygamy...only after the Fed held out several hundred million dollars in state funding.
      Mormons believe in polygamy still...yes it's true, but they have just moved it to only after you enter their "Celestial Kingdom" and then it's back on and men get multiple wives again.
      Mormons were against women attaining an education as recently as 10 years ago...Not anymore, they have found educated women make better mothers. Those mothers are NOT encouraged to enter the workforce and use this education as it interferes with baby-making.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
    • Primewonk

      So you see it as a good thing that Mormons let folks be gay, as long as they publically deny who they really are by not following their orientation? How, exactly, is this a good thing?

      April 10, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
    • Nonimus

      A group of students created a video to reach out to a segment of the student body in hopes of preventing suicides, which is very commendable.
      The University's response:
      "Well, I guess they didn't *do* anything gay, so we won't expell them."
      You have a strange sense of civility and compassion.



      April 10, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
    • AG

      @ThaGerm: I graduated from a university nearly twenty years ago. Both my sisters have graduate degrees. My mother graduated from college nearly fifty years ago. My now deceased grandmother earned her Bachelor's degree nearly eighty years ago. We are all Mormon women. I have always been taught that education is very important for everyone, including women, and stress that to my daughters today.

      April 10, 2012 at 6:30 pm |
  15. asdf

    Why is BYU allowed to profit from federal dollars when they have discriminatory policies?

    April 10, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
    • ilvpitz

      They really shouldn't. Makes me mad.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
    • Brad

      BYU does not accept federal dollars.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
    • Tyler

      Isn't BYU a private school? It isn't publicly funded like state universities are. Where are you getting this whole "federal dollars" idea?

      April 10, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
    • anonops

      notice how utah (mostly mormon/republican red) whine about big federal government and then want their share of federal funding when they need the dough. federal tax dollars that come from every state.

      April 10, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
  16. ThaGerm

    "it is very difficult to be gay and Mormon" Really? You just now figured out that the entire religion you subscribe too hates you? You don't realize that you are going to Mormon hell for your actions? Why on earth would you subscribe to any group that openly detests and distances itself from you? Why would you go through all of that when in their eyes you spend your life wallowing in sin, the kind of sin that keeps you from entering their "Celestial Kingdom"? Seriously low self esteem and a complete inability for critical thought is all I can come up with. You deserve this personal hell you have created for yourselves, not for being gay, for being Mormon and too weak to think for yourself and make under your own steam.

    April 10, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • Joe

      You can have a belief and still sin within it.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
    • M.E.

      Virtually nobody goes to "Mormon hell." There's debate if even Hitler is eligible for that. It's my understanding that the only surefire way to go there is to stand face-to-face with God, poke him to make sure he's actually there, ask him his favorite flavor of jam to make sure he's not an impostor, etc. If you still claim god doesn't exist after all that, then you can go to Mormon hell. Everybody else, including gay Mormons goes to "less nice Mormon heaven" a sort of pleasant limbo as it were. This is how it was explained to my by my ex-Mormon fiancee and if there's anybody who can pick apart LDS doctrine, it's ex-Mormons.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
  17. Martin

    Poor gay kids that wind up going to BYU when they would be so much happier and totally accepted at NYU! I wonder how many of them are at BYU because their parents made/wanted them to go there. I am so thankful for my secular upbringing and education.

    April 10, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
  18. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things.

    April 10, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
    • Martin

      Too much prayer makes you a mindless robot. Be careful.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • crazyfingers

      Statements of faith are poor arguments. That's a statement of faith. Atheism works for my family. Religion would be detrimental to our mental health.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
    • ThaGerm

      Your mistake is thinking "Prayer" is the only way to achieve the same result. Deep introspection and attaining a oneness with the universe is just like prayer, but without the make believe parts.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • robert frost

      What a moronic statement!

      April 10, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
    • Gordon

      Prayer does absolutely nothing except in the mind of a few people as a placebo. Just look at all the gay people that have prayed to become straight. If being gay is so much against god, why wouldn't he "cure" all these people? If he doesn't cure people that honestly pray to become straight, does that mean that god means for a certain percentage of people to be gay?

      April 10, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
    • Andy

      Prayer changes things? Apparently, no one is praying hard enough for the thousands of children who starve to death every single day.

      Religion is socially acceptable schizophrenia.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
    • ilvpitz

      You've never known a gay person have you?

      April 10, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
    • todd in DC

      This guy is a troll. He says the exact same meaningless sentence in multiple threads. I'm not even sure he is trying to accomplish anything.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:28 pm |
    • OH_CHRIST!

      You are a troll moron and every article, every day you comment the exact same thing. Atheism is healthy, and because of church with its sick pastors and congregation, I had the joy of being molested and violated at 12 years old. Even better was the judgement of me that followed. This was in the mid 80's. I have yet to see one compelling reason why I should be a part oif Christianity or any other religion when the people who have been kindest and most understanding to me are the "sinner atheists" you condemn.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
    • just sayin

      Memorize two wonderful Truths
      1. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things
      2. Prayer changes things
      3. God bless, third Truth included no extra charge !

      April 10, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
    • OH_CHRIST!

      Memorize this!
      1 .Prayer changes nothing. Action does.
      2. My mental health has not been better since leaving church.
      3. Note the absence of any acknowledgement, compassion or empathy for what happened to me because christians rarely posses that life skill. They just recite things that they're comfortable saying and it means nothing to anybody else. Not unlike robots actually.

      April 10, 2012 at 2:03 pm |
  19. pervert alert

    Story has kind of a qu eer twist to it.

    April 10, 2012 at 1:06 pm |
    • ilvpitz


      April 10, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
  20. hemo

    what i get from this article is how much mormons mess up america. their very presence is an absolute joke

    April 10, 2012 at 1:02 pm |
    • East of Eden

      You forgot to replace that 'e' with an 'o' on your tag name.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:05 pm |
    • hemo

      east of eden was a gay book. just like you. its clear you're a mormon that was born dead.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • ACE

      Hemo Your a Bigot.... Im sure the Nazi's said the same about the jews, gays... Even Iran about the Israelis... Your a hater and that is how you mess up America with your intolerance and hate... Get a life HEMO!

      April 10, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • Bull Dung

      Mormons don't mess up America, religion does. Religious people run around "preaching God's word" as well as peace and tolerance yet they are the first ones to cast that proverbial stone. Not only do they cast that stone but they keep chucking them by the truck-load because religious people tend to be more bigoted, narrow-minded, and intolerant than non-religious people.

      April 10, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
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