By Laura Koran, CNN
Here's the Belief Blog’s morning rundown of the top faith-angle stories from around the United States and around the world. Click the headlines for the full stories.
From the Blog:
Supporters pray over Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum during a February campaign stop in Texas.
CNN: With Santorum suspending campaign, some religious conservatives wonder how to proceed
Evangelical activist Michael Farris was not exactly surprised that Rick Santorum suspended his campaign on Tuesday. But that doesn’t mean that Farris, a longtime political organizer, knows what he’s supposed to do now. “Right now my choice is to sit on my hands and do nothing or to actively try to find some alternative” to Mitt Romney, Farris said in an interview shortly after Santorum's announcement.
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Enlightening Reads:
The Hill: Ryan says faith helped shape his budget
House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), whose budget plan recently passed the House in a party-line vote, says his faith contributed in shaping the proposal, which he says is consistent with Catholic teachings.
Al Arabiya: Imam blesses union of gay Muslim couple in France
Ludovic Mohamed Zahed, a French man of Algerian origin, and his South African partner Qiyam al-Din, were reportedly married in accordance to the Sharia (Islamic law) in the presence of a Mauritian imam named Jamal who blessed their union on February 12, 2012, according to a report in Albawbaba on April 2.
Religion News Service: Vanderbilt faith groups follow Catholics off campus
A coalition of 11 Christian student groups at Vanderbilt University are insisting their leaders should be chosen based on shared faith - the newest front in a growing battle over "religious freedom." The campus groups, who call themselves Vanderbilt Solidarity, joined together to oppose the university’s "all-comers" policy, which says student groups must be open to all students, including in leadership, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation or religion.
The Jewish Journal: Girls admit to syrup swastikas, mother could face charge
Three teenaged girls admitted on April 4 to defacing a Northridge home with swastikas, but will not face criminal charges, according to investigators with the LAPD’s Devonshire Division. However, the mother of one girl could face up to a year in jail and a $1,000 fine for driving the girls to the scene, based on a charge police are recommending to the city attorney’s office.
The Washington Post: ‘Ten Commandments’: Moses delivers again on the ratings
“The Ten Commandments” pulled off another of its ratings miracles over the holiday weekend, delivering ABC’s best non-sports Saturday since — well, since the last time ABC aired “The Ten Commandments,” about a year ago.
Excerpt of the Day:
Santorum’s vision of the presidency, as gleaned from his many statements on faith and policy, was more of a Christian ‘theologian-in-chief’ than a political leader of the most religiously diverse nation in the world.
Susan Brooks Thistlethwaite, former president of the Chicago Theological Seminary, writes in a piece on The Washington Post’s Guest Voices blog.
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One unnamed male student in the BYU video says he had thoughts of suicide.
CNN: BYU student video on homosexuality is not in violation of honor code, says administrator
The students featured in a video about being gay at Brigham Young University are not in obvious violation of the honor code, according to Carri Jenkins, an assistant to the president of BYU. Jenkins went on to say that for the video alone, the students would not be punished. The honor code, Jenkins said, is “based on conduct, not on feeling, and if same-gender attraction is only stated, that is not an honor code issue.”
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Prayer changes things ,
Prayer doesn’t not; you are so full of crap and lies. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs! –
Trolling, it is a kind of power rush or ego trip to be a troll. Being online is a place that is largely free of perceived consequences... an insecure person can get a sense of power online, without ever having to face someone directly. With the Internet being a world of imagination and fantasy for some, cowardly users can forge an alter ego for themselves, and act out their feelings of anger and inadequacy. It's sad and unfortunate that our advanced communications also brings out the darker side of many people.
Prayer changes things
Proven
You're a proven liar. Prayer doesn’t not; you are so full of crap and lies. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs! ..
Prayer changes things,
Prayer almost works. Really.
I must admit, I personally am a bit disillusioned with the efficacy of prayer.
Rick Santorum on the other hand endorses prayer, go figure ! God bless
More lies, prayer doesn’t not change anything; you are so full of crap. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs! ~,~ . , .
Yes it do. God bless
"Yes it do."
More lies and desperation continuing to prove my posts are correct.
News Flash
George Zimmerman has been arrested and charged with 2nd degree murder.
So sweet...think we shall smoke to that. 🙂
Zimmerman prayed and prayed that he would not get arrested.
Prayer almost works.
Phony just sayin fraud post above
I was saved by the boy who accidentally shot and killed his brother accross the street.
I was saved by great movies.
I was saved by puking.
I was saved by fine wine.
I was saved by Bosch.
I was saved by Jazz.
I was saved by success.
I was saved by medication.
I was saved by fish sticks.
I was saved by the empty swimming pool.
I was saved by road trips.
I was saved by singing.
I was saved by Adventure Time.
I was saved by Rock 'em Sock'em Robots.
I was saved by poverty.
I was saved by a gun to my temple.
I was saved by Humpback Whales.
I was saved by waterfalls.
I was saved by Seymore.
I was saved by Poker.
I was saved by stupidity.
I was saved by reading.
I saved myself.
Jesus was not present. We are on our own
Luke 21:34-36
(34) "But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. (35) For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. (36) Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man."
Amen.
HS
Cutting and pasting from an archaic and irrelevant book of lies does not contribute much to the blog. Hope your dogs are well though.
@saved: lol
Zimmerman shall be charged
This is a good chance to tst if prayer works
I suspect he shall be praying for no blacks on the jury, and no black cell mates.
Alas, I suspect he shall have a least one of each in his near future.
I suggest he stock up on soap on a rope!
A) thats hillarious
B) if God where to answer every prayer this world would be a mess
C) this world is already a mess (agreed by believer and atheist)
D) we people have a freedom to do as we please; a God given right -> for atheist a natural born right
So the point is Man in all his freedom messes up a lot of things and brings us plenty of atrocities. If there is a God there is a Devil and if there is a Devil there is destruction.
E) sorry i couldn't stop...This guy brought this on himself; now he has to deal with it.
I suspect that Zimmerman will be put in protective custody...nice little cell far away from everyone. As one of the most hated men in the world right now, they'll want to keep him safe until his trial. I sincerely hope that Trayvon's family is able to sleep peacefully tonight knowing the man responsible for their son's death is being held accountable.
What part of canada will zimmerman be jailed in? Could it be that it is none of your F'n business. There's your sign
@CA: Thankfully he won't be housed in any prison in our good country but then again here he wouldn't have been carrying a weapon on the streets and still be free!! One more benefit to being Canadian...we don't allow people to walk around killing innocent children.
I was saved by a double rainbow at the mouth of a cave.
I was saved by a car crash.
I was saved by my first pet.
I was saved by war.
I was saved by Salvador Dali.
I was saved by Buddy Rich.
I was saved by embarrassment.
I was saved by disease.
I was saved by cowboy boots.
I was saved by childhood divorce when I was 3.
I was saved by friends.
I was saved by my alcoholic mother.
I was saved by my abusive step fathers.
I was saved by the choir director who s.e.xually molested me when I was 11 years old.
I was saved by Rock and Roll.
I was saved by bullying.
I was saved by caring teachers.
I was saved by drugs and alcohol.
I was saved by friends.
I was saved by the need to explore the world.
I was saved by my wife.
I was saved by my children.
I saved myself.
Jesus was not present. We are on our own.
Dude
Don't bring your sorrows here.
The Jeebus freaks will blame you
No sorrows William my friend. That is the point.
Atheiststeve and truthprevails are spouses? Haha those 2 are loserrrrrrrrrrrrrrsssssss.
Hey you dont know that....how bout you go make me a sammich
fake one again. I do have a nice man over here right now though, and its not Steve. I'm gonna get the "O" face if ya know what I'm saying. Sorry Steve.
LOOO-HOOOO-SAH-HER
"I Feel Bad For You!
Atheiststeve and truthprevails are spouses? Haha those 2 are loserrrrrrrrrrrrrrsssss."
In your small mind we are but you have no clue as to who we are, nor do we care what your loser opinion is!!! We at least live our lives in reality, unlike the idiots who are attempting to be us....jealousy at its best!
The imposters that posted after your childish remark are not either of us. We know who we are and what we would say and neither of the dolts got it right...sadly they are not capable of even stealing a persons alias correctly...what losers!!
and to whoever the idiot is that used my alias: what a dumba$$ comment considering Steve is home today idiot!! However trying to create problems in a relationship shows your complete lack of intelligence and the person using his alias: he's not stupid enough to make a spelling mistake...try again child!!
you both (or is it one) need to grow up!!
I was saved by little tiny football helmets.
I was saved by the belt.
I was saved by candy.
I was saved by pizza.
I was saved by horrible mistakes.
I was saved by correct choices.
Jesus wasn't there. We are alone.
"We are alone"
Kind of an oxymoron isn't it?
I think you are alone. I'm a part of the community of humanity. Best of luck to you, thanks for coming out.
Perhaps God is just dead?
I mean we might not have been alone, but now we are?
@MickyC
I also am part of a community. Your post makes no sense. My community is a little larger than yours however.
William, if there ever was a God, he most certainly is dead now. This is clearly manifest in everything he fails to do.
@Saved
if you look at the universe you will find it took billions of years to get to where we are. If you study God ie the Bible you will find He is a eternal being with no end. My point is we live for a blink of an eye and more importantly humanity has only been around for a minuscule time period in the grand scheme of things so me like you would like to see things happen immediately but they don't ie end to war and other atrocities. The key thing to remember Gods timetable is not ours, somethings that happen should never happen. I will say this the enemy is alive and well causing all sorts of mayhem but the hope is one day justice will be served. I know your next response why not end it now and save us from pains of this life. I dont know why but what i will say is all in due time the truth will come out. I just wanted to give you a different view on things I understand if you dont believe in God, its not easy! He could make things better in a blink of an eye but bad things still happen. I think man has a lot of blame to take for bad things that happen though and i say this without any tie to God or religion. The leaders of humanity of large or small groups have failed to end things we can like hunger or slavery. The world would be a better place if we all helped each other out regardless of beliefs but the mighty dollar holds progress up.
@Chance
if you look at the universe you will find it took billions of years to get to where we are.
Duh.
If you study God ie the Bible you will find He is a eternal being with no end.
Incorrect
My point is we live for a blink of an eye and more importantly humanity has only been around for a minuscule time period in the grand scheme of things so me like you would like to see things happen immediately but they don't ie end to war and other atrocities.
Duh
The key thing to remember Gods timetable is not ours,
Incorrect
somethings that happen should never happen. I will say this the enemy is alive and well causing all sorts of mayhem but the hope is one day justice will be served. I know your next response why not end it now and save us from pains of this life. I dont know why but what i will say is all in due time the truth will come out.
Incorrect
I just wanted to give you a different view on things
Thanks
I understand if you dont believe in God, its not easy! He could make things better in a blink of an eye but bad things still happen.
Incorrect
I think man has a lot of blame to take for bad things that happen though and i say this without any tie to God or religion. The leaders of humanity of large or small groups have failed to end things we can like hunger or slavery. The world would be a better place if we all helped each other out regardless of beliefs but the mighty dollar holds progress up.
Duh
Poor imitators both of you...I wouldn't demand a sandwich or call TP hun...but carry on children.
P.S. I was laughing on the inside. Don't tell her though.
*wha-pshht*
Would you ever politley ask for a sandwich?
@lunchbreaker: No he wouldn't. He shares in the cooking equally and everything else equally...he's never made any demand of me.
"AtheistSteve
P.S. I was laughing on the inside. Don't tell her though."
Good try loser...considering I was sitting beside him when he wrote his comment, I know you are not him and I know what he is likely to say and how he would say it. Sorry you have such a pathetic life that you feel it necessary to pretend to be such a good man as the real AtheistSteve.
You two are cute. Me and my wife argue over who gets to do the cooking. I tell her, "We live in Alabama, and no wife of mine is going to slave away in the kitchen. You sit on the couch and drink beer."
I cant hear you BK broila! NO ONIONS!
I don't understand the tension between believers of God and those who believe in Chance. I understand it takes big faith in either one and we hold our beliefs in high regards but to put each other down is crazy. Believing and praying to God doesn't hurt anyone else just like believing that we are all here by Chance doesn't hurt anyone. Either God set into motion the universe or by Chance this little speck in the universe is able to sustain intelligent life because by Chance the simplest single celled organisms were able to evolve and beat all odds and eventually from the animal kingdom and mankind. Because by Chance mans DNA was able to split from the primitive apes due to natural selection, thus now man rules the Earth. Of all things by Chance this speck on the globe the Middle East happens to sit on a vast amount of Black Gold and in turn puts religion on the worlds stage daily because we have to deal with the region for its resources. Its crazy that by Chance what the Bible has to say about this region is on course not because the world cares about the religion in the region but because we need that OIL! Of all things that could happen by Chance and keep could keep God relevant on the world stage is crazy to me.
There is no conflict until those with faith(non-believers don't have faith) try to impose their dogma on those outside their religion. Just look at the total trainwreck over contraception that just got everybody riled up.
But back to your comments about origins. Like for instance the origin of the universe. The universe is real...it exists. Evidence that it was once in a very compact state is real...it exists. What precipitated its expansion is unknown...so we say we don't know. The faithful say God did it...without a shred of evidence.(That's what faith is)
Or life...it's real...it exists. Evidence that it evolved over time from simple to more complex forms is real...it exists. That the universe is peppered with the building blocks of life is real...it exists. Life on this planet emerged very early after the planet cooled...something like 3.9 billion years ago we find fossil cells. How it first came into being is unknown but micro-biologists have ideas. Until we know for certain we simply state we don't know. The faithful say God did it...again without a shred of evidence.
Science seeks to find answers to problems that further our understanding. Invoking a God avoids the question and ends the pursuit of knowledge. Theists often ask how can I explain the origin of the universe. I can't because I lack the knowledge. But if I turn it around and ask them they say God did it. This answers nothing. Just like they ask me I ask them HOW? How did God accomplish this thing? The can't answer because they don't know. Giving a mystery to explain an unknown is fruitless. Our ignorance is equal. I'm just honest about it.
@ AtheistSteve Very good response; i see where your coming from. There are so many unknowns; so much data to piece together. For me to many things happed for our existence that i have to believe in intelligent design. From the big things to the little things, how could all of this just have happened by Chance. I'm OK with people who don't believe what i believe; we don't have all the answers we all have to make our own opinions. The latest data points to the universe being at least 12 billion years old and earth being 4.9 billions years old; but this data doesn't rule out God, still to many unknowns. His word the Bible can coexist with all these new findings. All these things being uncovered are great and for me it points to a God who is not bound by our laws of physics or time and space or anything for that matter. If you where to ask me how God made the universe I would say i wasn't there but i wish i was. For me it takes more faith to believe we are all here by Chance then by design.
I just watched Penn Gillette talk about a problem that seems obviously strange when we view the US as a Christian nation like so many claim. If we use a hypothetical criminal trial as an example. Suppose we have a case being tried in the Bible belt of the south. Every individual involved in the case is a devout Christian. The judge, the prosecutor, the defending attorney, the jury, the entire gallery of viewers and the even defendant....ALL believe the Bible is the infallible word of God and every event therein is true historical fact. So now when asked why this (hypothetical) woman killed her 3 children she replies that "God asked me to do it". Yet the only possible outcome for this trial will be either guilty, not guilty by reason of insanity or not guilty. Completely absent is the verdict of not guilty because God spoke to her. WHY? It is entirely within the realm of possible(if you believe) that God could have demanded this of her and you have precedent in the Bible to back it up with the story of Abraham. True Abrahams' hand was stopped but for whatever reason God may actually have wanted her to do this. Gods' mysterious ways and all that. Shouldn't all the people in the court take pause at what might be passing judgement against Gods' wishes? This demonstrates the duality that most believers have where they may wish to believe in the fuzzy ethereal comfort of living with faith in God but not if it intrudes into real world situations.
Strange how people think Christians wouldn't take their sick kid or loved on to a Doctor. Have you ever considered many Doctors have faith as well? If my kid is sick, i'm going straight to the Doc praying everything is OK. If it makes you feel better I'll say hoping everything is OK. I mean whats wrong with praying for health along with being proactive and getting medical help?
You might do that but there are numerous doc.umented cases where others don't. If prayer alone is used, as it occasionally is, then it becomes a problem. As for Dr's having faith, true but it should not be part of them practicing and most Dr's I know will turn to medicine and science before they will prayer. Most times when you see a post regarding the use of prayer not working for ill children it is due to 'Atheism Is Not Healthy' posting that prayer works and people trying to point out that it doesn't by using the example of the ill child being prayed for...it is not to say that there are not decent christians who have the intelligence to take advantage of proper medical care-I know plenty like you who use both.
There once was a man who prayed every night for 20 years that he would win the lottery. After hearing so many prayers God appeared before the man and said, "Atleast buy a lottery ticket."
@truth I get your point now.
as for Docs who have faith; the ones i've dealt with they do all they can medically and know how far medicine can go. I've spoken to some and they know medically some people shouldn't have made it out of their problems. They tell me I know how far our medicine can go but there are times when we do all we can and know a person is going to die but somehow they beat all logic and make it out. You may call this Chance or luck but some people keep faith in a higher being because of stories like this. Either way is cool with me because its a tough choice to make. I know I've looked at what science has to offer me and what God has to offer; I've thought long and hard about how to live my life. I've gone through so many things anybody reading the story of my life would call me crazy for believing that one day God would right all the wrong that have happened to me. Choosing there is no God felt like the easy way out for me; i'd be a train wreak without God. I'm not weak for that; because He gives me hope to work hard and be the best I can be. He's not my crutch, He's my motivation to better and help those i can regardless of our differences.
@ lunchbreaker
You cant win it unless your in it...Good one
My doctor, dentist, optometrist are all devout Jews. So you are correct, people of medicine and science CAN have faith.
@Chance: I appreciate what you are saying. My mother lived for 7 long years with cancer after initially being given 6 months. I credit her Doctor's for all they did to keep her alive and I credit her for her tenacity to live. I personally I don't that I'd have it in me to go through what she did but her strength was admirable. She was a firm believer and I will never discredit that...in some weird way I believe it is what gave her the strength to fight-a strength that I believe she would have found within herself regardless. There is no doubt that somethings are simply unexplainable. You sound like a more honest christian than most who only wish to force their beliefs down the throats of others. You're a breath of fresh air here regardless of whether or not we agree or disagree about a god figure.
Hello everyone. If you were God what would be the next thing you did?
Or what would you do in general?
Would I be bound to uphold a higher law of the universe, or do I make the law?
Well since you are God I suppose you could break the laws if you wanted to
But then I would not be omnibenevolent. And the fact that there were laws outside of me to begin with means I am not omnipotent. Am I really God then?
I would make a bolder so large I could not move it, therebye disproving my exsistence.
First I would rid the Earth of war and disease and natural disaster and birth defects and all of that, and I would remove the bad parts of people that I put in when I created them.
I would stop playing these childish hide-and-seek do-I-exist game and send clear instruction of what I expect to Earth. No more weird contradictory incomplete books, no more hiding the true religion amongst many false ones, no more sending the correct information to one region and not to another. I sure wouldn't make them keep kissing my egotistical butt with worship.
Then I would taze the living shit out of almost all of my so-called followers for being the most intolerant hate-filled oppressive dingbats . . . no, I would rapture their asses straight to hell for their deluded hateful behavior.
But does a god have to be omnibenevolent and omnipotent? Is it possible that God is not those things, but simply the most powerful being in existence?
"But does a god have to be omnibenevolent and omnipotent? Is it possible that God is not those things, but simply the most powerful being in existence?"
Then what created your god?
I would tell humans that their last God was a figment of their imagination, and that they are and always have been totally free to do what they wanted, and that there is no afterlife or eternal judgements.
But that would be very hard to do considering that I wouldn't exist either.
I think I would organize the universe as a pure crystal of a single type of particle at absolute zero. It's the only way to eliminate evil as far as I know.
I don't know what created God if anything. I am just saying that the Bible does not use any of the omni words, so maybe they do not apply to God. But there could still be a being that is more powerful than any other being without them being absolutely perfect. It is kind of like Michael Jordan is one of the greatest basketball players in history, but he missed shots sometimes.
Brad, I supose if you were God you could bend the laws of physics. This is kinda off topic, but if you attempt to cool something to absolute zero, some form of energy steps in to prevent it from reaching absolute zero. Some people commonly call it the ether, the technical term is "zero point energy". Sorry to bore you all. I just find it interesting.
I suppose if I were God I would want an updated Bible, that way it would be made clear what God wants and there would not be any question about the things that we always argue about today.
Not sure what I would do first, but when I appeared before mortals I would be ripped, just sick abs and muscle definition.
lunchbreaker-
As I understand it, the lowest state would be ambiguous due to such fluctuations. This is worrisome to a god, at least one who would play by the rules.
-Brad
Copied from wikipedia: Zero-point energy is the lowest possible energy that a quantum mechanical physical system may have; it is the energy of its ground state. All quantum mechanical systems undergo fluctuations even in their ground state and have an associated zero-point energy, a consequence of their wave-like nature. The uncertainty principle requires every physical system to have a zero-point energy greater than the minimum of its classical potential well, even at absolute zero.
Actually, it was my intent to start a new thread. as it is now
BS skipper !
Last time I saw him he was in Hoboken
That reply key is sooooo hard for some folks, eh Willie?
Where is God?
Beyond the shadow of doubt.
Behind the wall of reason.
I see reason as a tool. Refereing to reason as a wall implies it is a barrier. Are you saying we can find God with reason or that reason is a barrier between us and God?
Good morning Robert
I'm not sure if you want to play with semantics, but I'll take your question literally. If the universe is a something that God transcends, then the question cannot be applied to God because locations are defined relative to things within the universe.
Yes to both. If you seek God believing He is, then He will find you. If you say I will believe in God if He can be proven, then you have created a barrier.
"Yes to both. If you seek God believing He is, then He will find you. If you say I will believe in God if He can be proven, then you have created a barrier"
Funny, that's what a child says about seeing Fairies, but the reality is we know it's make believe. Time to grow up..
Prayer changes things
That explains why so many innocent children die...christards like you would rather do the immoral thing and speak to air than get them help...how very selfish of you!
How does it follow that talking with God, who gave medicine and knowledge to mankind, would cause that. If a person misuses the nature of God and denies help to a child, how is that Gods fault? What about you? Denying God and influencing innocent children that will be forever lost to paradise, causing them to endure not a lifetime, but an eternity of separation from God and the blessings reserved for them. God bless
just spewin: God did nothing...that is completely science idiot! As for influencing innocent children? What the hell are you talking about? My own child was raised without god in her life and is doing quite well! You use the god of the gaps argument constantly and it fails constantly. You'd rather give credit to an unknown deity than to man himself...rather pathetic. I'm not the one living a lie dolt...you are and you have no verifiable evidence to support your claim for a god...so do the blog a favor and grow up!
just sayin wrote, " God, who gave medicine and knowledge to mankind"
You mean like using a live bird to sprinkle the blood of a dead bird around a house to treat leprosy?
You mean like womwn being "unclean" twice as long after giving birth to a girl than a boy?
Prayer doesn’t not change anything; you are so full of crap and lies. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!
Hey TP, you would do this whole blog a favor by makin me a sammich.
@the fake AtheistSteve: Considering I know what Steve has been doing all day, you are an idiot for posting as him! Not only that he doesn't spell anything wrong. Fortunately the real AtheistSteve is intelligent and doesn't carry the christard gene that would make him sound like a hypocritical ass-he would never make demands of any form...he knows how to treat women!
The fake dude has a good point hun.
Even the canadians don't want to hear its bull sh it . There's your sign
NO CA...it is you we don't want to hear but sadly this is an international website and so we must tolerate your daily rhetoric of hate for our wonderful country. Please enlighten us with what is so good about your own country presently? Is it the stupid battle over contraception or the stupid battle over the Trayvon Martin case or the stupid battle over who has the bigger god or maybe it's the battle over who deserves to have health care and who doesn't?!?!? Btw: if you dolts don't want Obama, we'll gladly take him!
No one hates Canada, what is reality is that we don't think your atheist BS belongs here let alone there. Keep your undermining evil to yourself. There's your sign