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After contraception controversy, Catholic Church announces 'religious freedom' campaign
The American Catholic bishops.
April 12th, 2012
05:25 PM ET

After contraception controversy, Catholic Church announces 'religious freedom' campaign

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) - The Roman Catholic Church announced a major campaign Thursday aimed at bringing attention to what it said were growing threats to religious liberty in the United States, including the pending White House rule requiring health insurance companies to provide free contraceptive coverage to employees of Catholic organizations.

An official with the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops said the initiative would stretch out over the course of a few years and that it would include everything from encouraging priests to address religious liberty concerns in church to sending inserts for church bulletins.

“Religious liberty is under attack, both at home and abroad,” the American bishops said in a new document titled “Our first, most cherished freedom.”

Compared to other Catholic communications campaigns, “This is bigger in that it’s not a one-time thing, not aiming for a specific Sunday” said Sister Mary Ann Walsh, the communications director for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. “It’s going to be extensive and it’s going to be occurring over a few years.”

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The Catholic bishops say a proposed White House rule connected to the Affordable Care Act requiring health insurers to provide free contraception coverage forces the church to fund an activity it opposes for religious reasons. The White House tweaked an earlier version of the rule that required employers, rather than insurance companies, to pay for contraceptive coverage, mollifying some Catholic groups who objected to Catholic colleges and hospitals having to fund contraception coverage.

But the bishops said the so-called White House compromise didn’t go far enough.

In their Thursday document, the bishops also said that a handful of American states and municipalities have driven Catholic foster care and adoption services out of business because Catholic charities refused to place children with gay couples or unmarried straight couples.

The document also said that the federal government recently revised its contract with the Catholic Church’s Migration and Refugee Services to require it to provide or refer women to contraceptive and abortion services, in violation of Catholic teaching.

“Religious liberty is not only about our ability to go to Mass on Sunday or pray the Rosary at home,” the bishops said in a Thursday statement. “It is about whether we can make our contribution to the common good of all Americans. Can we do the good works our faith calls us to do, without having to compromise that very same faith?”

“This is not a Catholic issue,” the statement said. “This is not a Jewish issue. This is not an Orthodox, Mormon or Muslim issue. It is an American issue.”

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Catholic Church

soundoff (2,540 Responses)
  1. tomnikoly

    “Religious liberty is not only about our ability to go to Mass on Sunday or pray the Rosary at home,”

    Yes it is.

    April 12, 2012 at 10:22 pm |
    • BADGUY

      But...Religious liberty does not mean the Catholic church can disregard our laws just because it doesn't agree with them. I didn't like the Iraq War, either, but I didn't have the option to not pay for it with my income taxes. What kind of world or country would we have if EVERYONE and ANYONE could disregard a law they disagreed with? The Catholic Church MUST comply with our civil laws or pull up stakes and return to Rome!

      April 12, 2012 at 11:03 pm |
    • Christ is Alive

      Is that what was in the mind of our forefathers? - that freedom of religion meant freedom to practice in your own home? The logic and will of God and of Christ is with the Catholic Church. Ask and you will see it.

      April 13, 2012 at 12:37 am |
    • Catholicshutup

      to "Christ is alive"- Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! PLEASE stop forcing others to obey YOUR spirituality and understand in a free society you have to play nice with others. I'm a vegetarian but I would NEVER support a law that said everyone has to be a vegetarian. Why? Because I'm not a JERK!

      April 13, 2012 at 11:59 am |
  2. sybaris

    "growing threats to religious liberty in the United States"

    Right

    We have:
    God on our money
    A Bible in every motel room
    A church every 6 blocks in every city over 100,000
    Religious organizations are tax free
    Religious holidays recognized by the government
    Televangelists on TV and radio 24/7
    Christian billboards along major thoroughfares
    Silence (prayer) before public events
    Insurance discounts for being Christian
    Catholic sponsored hospitals
    More than 75% of the population claim to be Christian
    Christian bookstores in every town over 12,000
    etc.,
    etc.

    Please. The persecuted Christian routine is tired, lame and unconvincing.

    April 12, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
    • tomnikoly

      Well-said. But I have seen statistics which show that 75% number more like 80% plus.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:24 pm |
    • tffl

      Their concern is for their liberty to deny rights to anyone who doesn't believe the same way they do.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:26 pm |
    • DeeCee1000

      You do realize this idiocy coming from Catholic Church leaders is purely political.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:26 pm |
    • † In God We Trust †

      the more unbiblical and unGodly this nation turns into, the more bad it will get.

      BTW even in small towns you will see churches everywhere, sometimes one church every 300 feet. 🙂

      April 12, 2012 at 10:34 pm |
    • DeeCee1000

      "In God We Trust", actually the US is one of the most religious countries in the West. . and it also happens to be one of the most violent.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:37 pm |
    • sybaris

      OK I'll bite
      @† In God We Trust †
      By your logic any non-christian country or region should be in chaos.
      That is simply not the case.
      In fact, despite 75% of the population claiming to be christian the U.S. has more people incarcerated per capita than any other country in the world.

      April 13, 2012 at 8:28 am |
    • FreedomFromReligion

      I agree, aren't we all tired of hearing this "wo is me" "jesus saves" "god is watching" crap? Religion has not convinced even this simple soul to believe their fake crap!

      April 13, 2012 at 9:44 am |
    • Alex

      I completely agree is a thinly veiled excuse to continue forcing their dogma down people's throats.
      Just because a school is religious or a hospital religious, does not mean you have the right to force employee's to follow your dogma.
      Nurses at religious hospitals Must be allowed to offer and give contraceptives to those who need.
      This is not an attack on religious freedom. It is a campaign for freedom; and dammit, this is America.

      April 13, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
    • Birch please

      Pretty sure Sweden and Norway disagree with you

      April 13, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
    • Just Saying

      Even the plants and animals don't believe this stuff!

      April 13, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
  3. Anie

    Keep thy friends close. Keep thine enemies closer.

    Knowledge is power. Never forget this.

    April 12, 2012 at 10:17 pm |
  4. BADGUY

    So..the Catholic Church is going to conduct a campaign to insure they don't have to provide the same insurance to their employees that EVERY OTHER COMPANY IN THE UNITED STATES has to? I guess they're saying they are and should be immune to our laws?

    April 12, 2012 at 10:16 pm |
    • DeeCee1000

      As if their above-the-law thinking is anything new.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:18 pm |
    • JD

      What!? The Catholic Church wants separation of Church and State?! Crazy......

      April 12, 2012 at 10:18 pm |
    • CatSh

      If they want separation of church and state, they shouldn't be accepting government funds. I object to having my tax dollars going to a religion I don't believe in.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:27 pm |
    • RynB

      How does this surprise? They wrote letters of support to General Lee during the Civil War and the mastermind behind Abraham Lincoln's assassination was found hiding as one of the Pope's personal guards- they have never had America's best interest at heart. Why should they start now?

      April 12, 2012 at 11:00 pm |
    • KimH

      Well, every company EXCEPT the Federal Government, including Congress, the POTUS, the SCOTUS and about 750 other companies Obama has given waivers to.,..........

      April 13, 2012 at 12:48 pm |
    • JD

      CatSh: Unless I am mistaken, these funds all go back into improving society and taking care of the poor. Do you believe in that?

      April 16, 2012 at 11:06 pm |
  5. Marianna

    The US Catholic Bishops are the real threat to religion. As a former devout Catholic, I have abandoned the church because of the abuse of its leaders against women and children. This initiative is yet another assault against women. MY CHILDREN WILL NOT BE RAISED CATHOLIC!

    April 12, 2012 at 10:14 pm |
  6. BADGUY

    If you're a regular Catholic (somewhat liberal or somewhat in the middle of the political spectrum)...Do you REALLY want to continue attending and/or giving money to an organization that's SO RIGHT WING? Time to decide!

    April 12, 2012 at 10:12 pm |
    • JD

      Do you really think the "regular Catholics" are the ones giving the money? Also, if you were familiar with the Catholic Church and their political tendencies, you'd see they are on the left for many social issues. Such as immigration and universal health care. They are right on the moral issues. To classify an entire group on their political opinions according to one issue is absurd.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:21 pm |
    • Casey

      Yes... I am.... and.. YES!! I do. Religious freedom is one of the founding principles of our Nation. All should applaud the Church for taking on this important issue. They are protecting the rights of all.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:23 pm |
    • DeeCee1000

      Actually most of these Church leaders are right wing and many are not afraid to let others know about it either. btw, many, if not most regular Catholics do not agree with a lot of the teachings coming from these church leaders. They've become so out of touch with regular people that they might as all well call themselves "Romney".

      April 12, 2012 at 10:32 pm |
    • BADGUY

      JD – Saying and doing are two different things. The Catholic Church SAYS it's for these things...but...where are the "campaigns" like this one to unseat Obama? The hierarchy of the Catholic Church is SOLIDLY right wing. The Catholic main body is not. But it's the hierarchy sets the policies. Those policies are FAR RIGHT WING.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:54 pm |
    • FLIndependent

      @JD – As a Catholic that is left leaning, I wish what you say is true. Most of the Catholics I know are most definitely right leaning and Repubs. I would guess the vast majority of Catholics are Republican but I could be wrong. I do agree that if you don't believe in what the Church condones than you shouldn't be a hypocrite by continuing to support them.

      April 13, 2012 at 10:04 am |
    • JD

      Here is a good resource. http://old.usccb.org/sdwp/national/brochure1.pdf

      April 16, 2012 at 11:09 pm |
  7. waheid

    The greatest threat to the Catholic church as well as any other religion is education. Educated people who can think for themselves soon realize that God is a myth and the priests, rabbis, preachers, mullahs, etc. are nothing more than purveyors of ignorance.

    April 12, 2012 at 10:10 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Truer words were never spoken. Just look at the stupidity of dolts like Matthew Kilburn. What kind of idiocy would be required of believers to endure unwanted pregnancy and childbirth, let alone child rearing, in acquiescence to some archaic doctrine and in direct opposition to our own financial and emotional well being?

      April 12, 2012 at 10:14 pm |
    • JD

      It is very interesting that you bring up this point, considering Catholic Universities are at the very heart of the forced contraception issue. It would be best for the Church to just shut them all down! Problem solved for them. They don't have to pay for contraception and there will be less educated people in the world! Perfect! I just have one question. If there is no God, is there also no soul? If there is no soul, is all we are just a collection of perfectly ordered matter? If we are only matter, does this matter only act on the basis of the laws of the sciences? If we are just matter that only acts based on the laws of science, then do we have free will? I would say no. How about you?

      April 12, 2012 at 10:26 pm |
  8. BADGUY

    The Catholic Church is now SOLIDLY Republican AND SOLIDLY right wing...just in time for the 2012 campaign season! They only missed it by two days. I guess Santorum didn't pass along the message he was bowing out soon enough to the Church hierarchy so they could time their announcement on the same day as Santorum's? Well..there WILL be miscalculations like that in the "world of politics"?

    April 12, 2012 at 10:08 pm |
    • JD

      The Church SUPPORTS universal healthcare and giving rights and citizenship to illegal immigrants. Does this sound right wing to you?

      April 12, 2012 at 10:27 pm |
    • BADGUY

      JD – Well why haven't they announced a "campaign" for that? They were "against" the Iraq War too...but as I remember they didn't make much of a fuss about that EITHER. This campaign is designed to get Obama out of office and install a Right wing government the Catholic Church LOVES to cozy up to. Just look at what they did with the Nazi Party in 1933. The Catholic Church NOT ONLY cozied up to Hitler, they put him in power!

      April 12, 2012 at 10:49 pm |
    • John

      And now the BADGUY is just making stuff up....stop lying.

      April 12, 2012 at 11:39 pm |
    • BADGUY

      John – it's NOT made up. Google it if you don't believe! I repeat, the Catholic Church, the Catholic Centre Party and Catholics voting in the Nazi party put the Nazi party in TOTAL control of the German Government with Adolf Hitler as dictator. This was done in 1933. Check it out!

      April 13, 2012 at 12:15 am |
    • edwardo

      Badguy... Every post, comment you have made, is 100% CORRECT !! Finally, someone has educated themself, instead of buying in on what comes from the pulpit.

      April 13, 2012 at 8:46 am |
    • Bloke

      @JD apparently they don't support universal health care since they think women should have 18 babies and die in their early forties...

      April 13, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
    • JD

      Bad Guy: I'm confused on your accusations. I am somewhat familiar with Non Abbiamo Bisogno written in 1931 and Mit Brennender Sorge written in 1937. These definitely do not support Nazi policies. As for putting Hitler in power, to put the entire blame on the Church seems extremely biased. No one saw how crazy Hitler was when he came into power. Please know that Pope John Paul II spent much of his life in hiding from the Nazi's and many Catholics were killed and held in concentration camps during the holocaust. I'm sure the Catholic Church did not support this.

      April 16, 2012 at 11:20 pm |
  9. Ken Margo

    If you want to keep religion out of politics, the answer is simple. STOP GIVING MONEY TO THE CHURCH! Once those coffers dry up, the church will back off! Face facts. The church doesn't care about those children. I never hear the Pope offering to put up some money to help take care of these kids. The church support "pro-life" candidates that want to cut and gut the very programs people with children need to survive. Birth control is a helluva lot cheaper than children. So until the church puts up some cash, STOP GIVING TO THE CHURCH!!!!!

    April 12, 2012 at 10:05 pm |
    • Anie

      The Church is sneaky. If you drop money in those kettles around the holidays, well, what kind of 'Salvation' Army, are they, really?

      April 12, 2012 at 10:21 pm |
  10. Religion Freedom is not outside the law.

    The whole point of Religion freedom is not to have special power that the government can't control. It like any group or business. The whole point of religion freedom is not to be judge base on the religion. Christian don't have right to make law for themselves. The fact that we using christian as a way to better our chance to become president is sicken. That saying we are better than other people because we make people think we are. Christian don't make them their morale or value better or anything different than normal men. Most of the christian teaching was base long time ago and now they change them for today time.

    April 12, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
    • Pat

      I think the church would be more effective if they put the money into helping people.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:13 pm |
    • Alex

      Freedom of religion DOES NOT mean that individuals must follow some atheistic code when acting in the public sphere. It was specifically intended to ensure that society respects the individuals' right to practice their faith while participating in society. It was never intended to marginalize and prevent religious groups from participating in the many activities they are barred from. The founding fathers would be rolling over in their graves on this one – in large part because it was never intended for the government to be involved in so many of these functions – and if it were left up to the private sector as it should be, there would be nothing preventing religious organizations from participating.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:17 pm |
    • @Alex

      Religion have the right to practice within the law. If it against the government, the government win. No religion have special right against the government. If Christian have the right to disobey any law they want, do do any other religion. Meaning Muslim have the right do do anything like the Christian.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:57 pm |
  11. Aezel

    The Catholic Church IS one of the threats to freedom, amongst most of the other Christian denominations, with very few exceptions. If they could take over and force you to follow their 2000 year old garbage at the point of a gun they gladly would.

    April 12, 2012 at 10:02 pm |
  12. Matthew Kilburn

    Even if you took religion entirely out of the equation, you would be left with just as strong of a case against the liberal anti-birth, anti-child mentality as before.

    Procreation, whether rooted in some notion of moral responsibility, or simple propagation, is the most basic, most important, and most essential function of a society.

    Our birth rates have crashed. Our population growth rates have crashed. We now have a society that views children more as a burden than as a gift. That CANNOT bode well for our nation's future.

    April 12, 2012 at 10:02 pm |
    • Aezel

      "Our birth rates have crashed. Our population growth rates have crashed."

      Citation needed. What a joke.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
    • Matthew Kilburn

      I can't post links without getting flagged as a spammer....spend two minutes with google, and you will clearly see that I am right on both counts.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:05 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Says who? You? And your qualifications are what, exactly? Numbskull, do you REALLY think you are going to encourage women to bear the risk and financial burden of pregnancy and childbirth because they "owe" it to our nation?

      What a friggin' moron you must be. Grow a uterus, get pregnant, give birth, and support a kid for 18 years. Then we'll talk, you jitwad.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:05 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      If you had half a brain, you'd have figured out how to post links, azzwipe. Please, get lost, you amateur.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:06 pm |
    • NigelClip

      7 Billion people might disagree with the "birth rate has crashed" delusion.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:14 pm |
    • DeeCee1000

      I agree with Tom Tom. Why don't YOU bear children, nurture them, pay for all of their needs until age 18-20, then come talk about making women bear and raise more children in a world that is fast becoming overpopulated. You're a jerk.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:16 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      High five x two.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
    • Dennis Spruce

      MK-Valid points!

      April 12, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
    • Bob

      Matt, Neatly written and well articulated.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:21 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      One would imagine Matthew's spawn would exit the birth canal saluting the Stars and Stripes and warbling the National Anthem. While shooting off fireworks.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:22 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Love it. Those without va-ginas are all gung-ho.

      Su-ck on it, you idiots.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:23 pm |
    • BADGUY

      People simply don't have the money to pay for many children. I know the Church LOVES many children because many children become many adults and as long as those adults can be hood winked into attending Church, they will continue to put money in the basket on Sunday. You may not make a lot of money if everyone is poor....hey..but you make it up in volume!

      April 12, 2012 at 10:26 pm |
    • Birth rates

      You should take a long at more data. While birthrates have gone down, the US is in sync with the rest of the developed world. We still have a population growth (so long term, we aren't going to just stop existing)

      But here's the real issue – you assume that because individuals want control over when they have children that they never want to have children. I have no worries about american's ability and willingness to procreate (trust me, if this was an issue we would have learned that a long time ago when birth control first went public) but I do worry about the way in which we raise our children. People want to have control so they can make sure that they are in a situation where they can actually take care of and properly raise their child. (you know put food on the table, have a house to live under, ect)
      So i'm against forcing women to become pregnant.

      April 13, 2012 at 12:56 pm |
  13. visitor

    I thought that marketing campaign about "come home" to the Church was really nice. I guess it was ineffective, because they now decided to use good old-fashion hate peddling to coalesce the faithful. They are pandering to their most nutty members. A 2000 year old church does not deserve these idiots.

    April 12, 2012 at 9:59 pm |
    • BADGUY

      As a leader of one of the Progressive movements in the Catholic Church said: "The church is doing its best to weed out the more progressive elements and get it down to a core of true (right wing) believers". The Catholic Church has, already, gone EXTREME RIGHT!

      April 12, 2012 at 10:28 pm |
  14. JT

    Of course the RCC doesn't like contraception and has demonized the practice. They need a constant supply of new child rape victims.

    April 12, 2012 at 9:57 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Or at the very least a constant supply of contributions in the form of offerings.

      April 12, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
    • squints

      so true

      April 12, 2012 at 10:10 pm |
  15. BADGUY

    I think the Catholic Church is NOW solidly in violation of Internal Revenue Service Rules against churches participating in political advocacy for a particular candidate as a major portion of their activity. Time to tax the Catholic Church!

    April 12, 2012 at 9:57 pm |
    • 21k

      i'd rather stop subsidizing all religious businesses, and use the money to feed hungry kids in our country.

      April 12, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
  16. JDPalatine

    I am glad they are focusing again on the Americans. Of course there is no problem in Europe, they stopped paying attention to the hierarchy decades ago.

    April 12, 2012 at 9:54 pm |
    • Christ is Alive

      This is the US conference of Catholic Bishops. Each region/nation has their own conference of bishops to deal with regional issues. I encourage you to digest information critically so you don't come to false conclusions.

      April 13, 2012 at 12:30 am |
  17. Nare

    I'd suggest they go back to Christ-like words and actions and implementing some kind of pastoral engagement with people instead of foot-stomping when they don't get their way. The faith of my childhood is about ready to get put up on the shelf with Greek mythology if they don't stop the ridiculousness.

    April 12, 2012 at 9:53 pm |
  18. Jean

    It would seem reasonable that if the Catholic church wants government contracts (taxpayer dollars) for foster care, etc., then they should have to abide by the laws.

    April 12, 2012 at 9:52 pm |
  19. Matthew Kilburn

    "Where does Jeebus rule that contraception is wrong?"

    Well.....lets think about this for a minute. If you have a Bible, open up Genesis. The VERY FIRST commandment God gives to people, before he tells them not to kill, before he tells them to love each other, before he tells them to care for the poor and the sick and those in prison, before he tells them to respect their father and their mother, before he even tells them to honor the Sabbath, he gives the following command:

    "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

    I don't know whether God specifically objects to all actions of contraception, but procreation is clearly in keeping with his intention and plan for mankind.

    And beyond that, our country could use a few more young, healthy, workers to lead the next generation forward.

    April 12, 2012 at 9:52 pm |
    • 21k

      he banged that mary magdalene like a deck nail.

      April 12, 2012 at 9:57 pm |
    • DeeCee1000

      Well maybe "God" should take his / her own advice on contraception and abortion since quite a number of future humans are aborted naturally in the womb. Call your "God" up to see what's up with THAT.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:01 pm |
    • tffl

      The earth is filled and subdued – it's enough already. Further, the Catholics seem perfectly willing to ignore all the commandments from the "old" testament when it suits them, so why would they get all hot and bothered over this one? Finally, if that commandment is _so_ critical, then why is the entire Catholic hierarchy (the most important Catholics) categorically forbidden from reproducing?

      April 12, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
    • me again

      Matthew, that's just what we need. More wasteful Americans using up the world's resources. How's that whole outlawing birth control thing working out for the Phillipines? What a prosperous, modern country they are, huh? But what do you expect from people who worship a zombie on a stick? Organized religion is a scam designed to keep you docile and take your money.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      No sale. There's not a single word in there about contraception, you dimwit. Nice try. Fail.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:09 pm |
    • NigelClip

      Old Testament = Fiction

      New Testament = More fiction

      April 12, 2012 at 10:18 pm |
    • JohnnyAnonymous

      Yeah that's exactly what we need.....MORE unemployed people.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:18 pm |
    • tomnikoly

      So....couples who choose not to have children are...sinners? Worse yet, if they decide to get vasectomies or tubal ligations to ensure they will not conceive?

      April 12, 2012 at 10:36 pm |
    • FLIndependent

      You need to start living in the 21st Century buddy. According to you, we should still be living like the days of Adam & Eve. The world is overpopulated now, there is no more "need" to be fruitful and multiply. There will always be more than enough people on this planet barring a major event that wipes out most of us.

      April 13, 2012 at 10:17 am |
  20. Anie

    Religion belongs in two places only – church and home. Why are they in business doing anything else and expecting to be able to act like it's a church? Business is business, the rules apply to everybody else, why not them? If they don't like it, they can stick to their pulpits and out of hospitals, schools and the like! Charity isn't charity when you expect something back. Having to abide by their arcane ideas and be subjected to their faith in order to receive their 'charity' isn't charity at all. It's an exchange. once again, we're back to business.

    April 12, 2012 at 9:51 pm |
    • Matthew Kilburn

      To all of you suggesting the church should just nose out of the contraception issue:

      – Look at the birth rate in the United States over the last 75 years
      – Look at the population growth rate over the last 75 years
      – Look at what is currently happening in countries that aren't producing a next generation of sufficient size.

      Now, please explain to me how you can possibly support this liberal mentality that if we could only prevent most people from ever having kids, things would be just perfect.

      April 12, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      So you think the church is attempting to enforce its contraception policy out of what, patriotism?

      How friggin' stupid are you?

      April 12, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
    • DeeCee1000

      Matthew Kilburn, who ever said they wanted to prevent most people from having kids? Why do you people distort things so much? But take a look at reality. . .there are now about 7 billion human beings in the world, many of whom take up way way too much space and use up way way too many natural resources for ANY one species. Why do you think it's a good idea to have kids no matter what, just for the sake of having more kids? Do you honestly believe our species will go extinct while we are having a population growth the world has never seen before? Point is, people, especially women should have the right to choose whether they want to bring another human being into this world or not.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:08 pm |
    • Anie

      So one has a child, not for the purpose of creating a loved being, but so that they'll have another support system for the government and perhaps themselves as well? "Sufficient size" for what, exactly? You wish to burden the next generation with a bloated government and your Social Security? How Christ-like is that?

      April 12, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I guess it depends on one's view of "Christ" if one even believes he existed.

      The more I frequent this forum and view 'his' followers, the less I'm inclined to respect their views of him and his requirements.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:16 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      And you know what, Matthew? Bottom line is: if you think having a kid is so fabulous, YOU incubate one and give birth. Grow a uterus and let us all know how you like it.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:17 pm |
    • JD

      Tom, Tom, "Bottom line is: if you think having a kid is so fabulous, YOU incubate one and give birth. Grow a uterus and let us all know how you like it." Well, I think you have a very valid point. I actually demand that the government pay to research this so I can have the ability to give birth. I desperately want to be able to have children. I just feel like I could FINALLY be on the same level of women since I'll have the same abilities. I especially want anyone who disagrees with the acceptable request to pay for it. You know, since this is health care for sure. My mental health depends on this ability to have kids.

      April 12, 2012 at 10:40 pm |
    • visitor

      Mathew, women really don't want to be brood mares. If you want a nice Catholic population, you can explore Haiti. or the Philippines. Plenty of workers to pay for your retirement.

      April 12, 2012 at 11:10 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I feel terribly sorry for Matthew's 'wife'....umm, brood mare.

      April 12, 2012 at 11:45 pm |
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