With 'Monumental' Kirk Cameron emerges as Christian activist
Kirk Cameron released a documentary in theatres on Friday titled "Monumental."
April 13th, 2012
05:02 PM ET

With 'Monumental' Kirk Cameron emerges as Christian activist

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN)– Kirk Cameron could have joined the ranks of former TV heartthrobs who rode off into the sunset, reappearing only for the occasional reunion show or career-reviving role in a TV drama. Think Ricky Schroder or Scott Baio.

But Cameron, known to millions of Americans as Mike Seaver on the hit ‘80s-era show “Growing Pains,” is carving out a new niche for himself, as an unlikely voice of politically conservative American evangelicals.

Cameron has a new documentary on the faith of America’s founders that arrives in theaters on Friday. He is neither a historian nor theologian, but the film, “Monumental,” shows him consumed with Christianity - and with rage over what he says has been the systematic removal of religion’s role from American history.

The film opens with Cameron sitting on an Adirondack chair in his backyard. Looking straight and silently into the camera, a voice-over of his own voice alerts viewers that the world around him is going to hell.

“There is something seriously sick in the soul of our country,” the voice-over says.

“Don’t worry about the fact the world is going to hell in a hand basket - just get out of the hand basket,” his friends tell him. But Cameron explains that he refuses to listen and instead sets out to make “Monumental: In Search of America’s National Treasure,” which investigates the debate over America’s soul.

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Over the last decade, Cameron has become the wholesome, boyish face of Christian cinema. He starred in “Left Behind,” the low-budget film based on the wildly popular Christian book series.

More recently, he played the lead role in “Fireproof,” a breakout film that shocked the Hollywood establishment when it debuted in the top 10 in its first week and wound up taking in an estimated $33 million. The film was made by Sherwood Baptist Church in Albany, Georgia, for just over $500,000.

Cameron was one of the only professional actors in the film; the rest were congregants from the church.

Along with such popular movies as Mel Gibson’s “The Passion of the Christ,” ”Fireproof” showed the potential for a new market in explicitly Christian films. In the last two years, crossover movies like “Soul Surfer” and “Courageous” have had parallel advertising campaigns targeting churches.

The movement has propelled Cameron back into the spotlight.

“Monumental” is Cameron’s baby. He is its executive producer and its star.

“When I survey the landscape and turn on the news, all signs are saying panic,” Cameron recently said.

“Instead of listening to everyone play the blame game … maybe the best place to look for solutions was to talk to the men and women who built this country 400 years ago and laid the foundations that resulted in a nation that has experienced more blessing and prosperity and strength than any other nation in the world,” he said.

“That launched me on this journey to retrace the Pilgrims and find the sacred sauce.”

In the film, Cameron retraces the Pilgrims’ steps from England to Holland to the New World. He talked to scholars and historians, digging in on the faith of the Founding Fathers.

What he found, he said, is a forgotten historical narrative not taught in schools.

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Those first principles, as Cameron sees them, are spelled out in a scene depicting a large stone monument near Massachusetts’ Plymouth Rock, the spot memorialized as the place the Pilgrims landed.

“Faith in God … produces character, character will produce courage, courage to face the challenges of the day,” Cameron says in the movie, riffing off the Pilgrims’ story.

Cameron teamed with NCM Fathom, a company that streams live events to movie theaters nationwide, like live performances of the Metropolitan Opera and boxing matches, to offer a sneak peek at the film a couple of weekends ago. That debut was emceed by Cameron, featured live performances by Christian bands and was beamed out live on more than 600 screens, grossing $1.23 million, according to NCM and Cameron's publicist.

Kirk Cameron stares at an inscription at the Jefferson Memorial in Washington.

The new documentary has faced criticism for its inclusion of self-taught evangelical Christian historian David Barton.

A favorite among evangelicals for his Christian-centric views of the Founding Fathers and his vast collection of historical documents, Barton is heavily featured in the film.

“The reason I went to go see David Barton is because he owns the largest collection of original source documents from the founding era that I can get my hands on and that you can go and see,” Cameron said.

“When you look at those documents it becomes incredibly clear there has been a lot of cherry picking of the evidence done to support a very particular worldview, and that’s the worldview our children are learning in school and it’s not the full and complete historical record because it doesn’t reflect the faith of our Founding Fathers,” the actor said.

In a version of the film made available for screening and in clips posted online, Barton shows Cameron the “Thompson Hot Press Bible,” which Barton said was printed in 1798 and was funded by 12 signers of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, including John Adams and Thomas Jefferson.

“They wanted the word of God out to every family,” Barton says in the clip. “If these guys happen to be Christians it makes a lot of sense.”

Barton then picks up a small rare Bible known as the “Aitken Bible.” “The Bible of the Revolution was printed by the Congress of the United States. So Congress printed the first English Language version of the Bible,” Barton said. He goes on to say the Congress said, “This was a neat edition of the Bible for use in our schools.”

Warren Throckmorton, an associate professor of psychology at Grove City College, a private Christian school in Pennsylvania, has criticized Barton’s version of history and Cameron’s films.

About much of the history featured in the film, Throckmorton said, “That’s just not what happened.”

After seeing clips of the documentary, Throckmorton fact-checked some parts.

He said he found that the “Thompson Hot Press Bible” was not funded in total by 12 Founders. Instead, he said, the Bible was funded by a subscription base of 1,200 customers that included 12 Founding Fathers. “The printers funded that Bible, the Founders didn’t fund it. It was a business venture for them.”

As for the quote Barton attributed to Congress about putting the Bible in schools, it actually came from Robert Aitken’s petition to Congress. Aitken was a colonial printer. The Journals of Congress from 1782 shows Aitken completed the Bible on his own and sought the blessing of Congress.

The record shows a report from two congressional chaplains who examined the work, which they praised.

Congress passed a resolution to recommend “this edition of the Bible to the inhabitants of the United States and hereby authorize him to publish this recommendation in the manner he shall think proper.” That resolution did not mention it being put in schools.

“David Barton gets the facts wrong when it comes to these two Bibles,” Throckmorton said. “The facts of the case are stretched and embellished to create a narrative that is misleading.”

Cameron defended Barton’s work. “No one is more guilty of cherry picking evidence than those who bow to the god of political correctness, especially historians,” Cameron said. “Everyone is going to select the information that is important to their thesis. If you’re bent on being politically correct, it’s very easy to fall into that trap.”

Throckmorton noted that he and other critics of Barton’s work hail from Christian colleges and universities.

Early controversy surrounding Cameron's comments on social issues have given the film more media coverage than Cameron could have imagined for a small-budget documentary.

Appearing on CNN’s Piers Morgan Tonight last month, Cameron fielded questions about abortion, gay marriage and what he would do if one of his six children came out to him as gay.

None of the topics appear in the film, but Cameron expressed views on same-sex marriage, abortion and homosexuality that are common among conservative evangelical Christians.

Cameron called homosexuality “unnatural,” adding, “I think that it's detrimental, and ultimately destructive to so many of the foundations of civilization."

His comments sparked outrage from gay rights groups like GLAAD, the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation. The group led a campaign to counter Cameron’s comments with other 1980s TV stars and evangelicals on the other side of the theological spectrum.

GLAAD spotlighted a bevy of celebrities who chided Cameron for his positions on homosexuality, including a tweet from Rosanne Barr, who suggested Cameron was “an accomplice to murder with his hate speech.”

Cameron said his support for traditional marriage is rooted in faith and thinks it should inform policy decisions: “You either believe marriage and human sexuality are sacred or you do not.”

Cameron jokingly described his faith as “high octane” but said he considers himself part of the evangelical Christian tradition. He said he goes to a small nondenominational community church near his home in California, though his publicist later clarified that he is not a member of the church, whose name he would not disclose because of privacy and security concerns.

Cameron said he was caught off guard by the controversy around his comments.

“It is my goal to love everyone. I hate no one,” he said. “Regardless of their race, religion, their proclivities, the desire of their heart and how they want to live their life and the decisions that they make. I can even respect people’s decisions and lifestyle choices just as I hope they have the courtesy to respect my decisions and my choices.”

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Belief • Christianity • Church and state • Religious liberty

soundoff (2,339 Responses)
  1. sam

    christian dominionism now has a face

    April 14, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
  2. outpatient8

    Cameron is a tool. Always has been.

    April 14, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
    • Fabiola

      God's tool absolutely 🙂 what a privilege! He's found God's purpose for his life

      April 14, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
  3. John

    To my atheist friends, you will deny God now and hate the ones that love Him. I understand your views. On this earth, everything looks like a huge confused mess. Religion is so objective anymore that who came you believe about the truth and know for sure it is worth dying for. Faith in Jesus is the supreme test of a human's mind. No one believes in something that they cannot see. But, believe me, once that step is taken, your eyes are opened and you will see clearly. Continue to fight it if you please but don't close your mind to the possibility that reality is something you have yet to experience. I say, God bless and chose wisely.

    April 14, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
    • tony

      The instant you try to corrupt my children, you are not my friend, but an enemy of everyone everywhere. You haven't got the guts to leave the children alone and let them figure out life and truth when they are fully cognisant.

      April 14, 2012 at 1:46 pm |
    • Jason

      Obvisously Jesus couldn't help you proof read.

      April 14, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
    • rbsrs

      Leave the children alone??? My son went to university and during frosh week (publicly supported) university put on a seminar on the proper use of condoms. Is that leaving our children alone??? One thing gets replaced by another. I'll make my own decisions with my children thank you.

      April 14, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Hahhahhha. Your kid is in college. He's not a baby and you're delusional if you think showing freshman how to use a condom is infringing on your parental rights. Why don't you just home-'college' him?

      April 14, 2012 at 1:59 pm |
    • kamanakapu

      As a child I would ask the sunday school teachers and preachers questions they could not, would not, and did not answer; i.e., why can't god be seen, heard, or touched? what did jesus ever do for the human female and their children? why did jesus only hang with males and avoided females? what has the human male ever done for the planet, the environment, or the other living things living on the planet?

      The religionists could't answer those simple questions back than, they cannot answer them now, and they never will be answer them at any time in the future.

      April 14, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
    • rbsrs

      hahahah from "my two moms" in public school kindergarten to to "transgender washrooms" and condom machines in hight school to "family guy" to etc. etc. etc. You don't think that secularism effects children?? Don't post if you don't think.

      April 14, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Don't post if you're still such a dolt you don't know "affect" from "effect".

      Why are so many of you so ignorant?

      April 14, 2012 at 2:04 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Was every freshman compelled to attend the 'seminar on condom use', ya boob? Of course not.

      If you think wrapping your kiddie in bubble wrap and holding your hands over his ears will keep him from having s2x, you're too silly to be believed.

      April 14, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Did the school force your kid to watch Family Guy? Why didn't you turn off the TV? Or get rid of it altogether? After all, if you had, your little boy would NEVER have learned anything about s3x and wouldn't know any bad words, right?

      April 14, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
    • rbsrs

      No one had the choice for an alternative. It's not about warping your kids up it's about putting an end to this "don't indoctrinate you child" crap. There is no vacuum.

      p.s. how's my spelling tom. I know you are concerned.

      April 14, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
    • JLasaque


      Any chance your questions were so disjointed, your instructors couldn't understand what you were asking?

      April 14, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Of course there's a "choice". Your son wasn't forced to attend. He could have gone for a walk. He could have stayed in his dorm room.

      April 14, 2012 at 2:16 pm |
    • rbsrs

      tom...you are not getting it....there was no alternate program such as "come the the abstinence workshop or the condom one" in the publiclly funded school. The publicly funded kindergarten had the book "my two moms"... the publicly funded high school is opening a transgendered washroom and installing condom machines... you are still not thinking but still posting.

      April 14, 2012 at 2:19 pm |
    • Forward Thinking

      @John, maybe "everything looks like a huge confused mess" on earth to *you*, but that's an awful assumption to make about others – especially when you try to make a correlation between that (mis)statement and their religious (or lack thereof) beliefs. Tsk, tsk, such ignorance...

      April 14, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You are the one not thinking, doofus. There didn't have to BE an alternative. He could go or not go-THOSE are his alternatives, ding-dong. And so what if the book "My Two Moms" is in the Kindergarten room. I'll bet there are or were kids in that class who HAD two moms or two dads. And I'll bet there were also transgendered kids in the high school, too.

      That such people exist is a FACT of life, nut-job. Your religious beliefs are NOT.

      April 14, 2012 at 2:49 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      And it's also a fact that high school kids DO have s3x and do get STDs and AIDS as a result unless they have access to condoms. Your kid had a choice there, too. Too bad you don't have any faith in your own ability to raise a child unless you make over the entire world to suit your beliefs as to how things SHOULD be.

      Time to grow up, mommy.

      April 14, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
    • CoCooo....

      Tom, Tom.........
      If I write a post, would you spellcheck it for me? My thingamajig is not working!
      You seem to be a fine educated dude!

      April 14, 2012 at 7:18 pm |
    • rbsrs

      Tom is so far of topic you don't even know it. Stay on task Tom.

      April 14, 2012 at 9:40 pm |
    • rbsrs

      It's simple – if you society can throw all that crap at our children who are you to tell me I can't teach them about Christianity. What a total load of crap. And you trying to defend that thinking is also a load of crap.

      April 14, 2012 at 9:45 pm |
  4. Forward Thinking

    While I have several issues with these activists I can sum up *why* I do with this personal experience.

    A relative of mine (brother-in-law), while living in and driving in The South was hit in an intersection by another driver that ran a stone cold red light. There was no doubt who was at fault as there were more than one witness to the collision. During the legal deposition that followed, the very first question asked by the lawyer interviewing my brother-in-law was "What Church do you belong to?"

    This threw my brother-in-law off a little bit for obvious reasons, and when he hesitated once the initial shock wore down, the lawyer not only pressed him for an answer in an unfriendly manner, but continued to ask questions of a religious nature before asking questions that actually had something to do with the auto accident. At the end of the deposition, the lawyer reached into his suit jacket pocket and gave my brother-in-law a pamphlet printed by the Church that the lawyer's family belonged to.

    Despite the fact that the fault of the accident was clearly the other drivers, my family was in doubt of the outcome up until the day when the ruling of fault was communicated to my brother-in-law.

    If Kirk Cameron and conservative evangelical Christians are going to start throwing stones they had better move out of the glass house they reside in.

    April 14, 2012 at 1:40 pm |
    • Fabiola

      It is not christians' intention to be judgemental because we are sinners as well. We are humans as everybody else and of course you will find people who will judge because we all make mistakes. But those who reall follow God's teachings will NOT judege anyone and instead love everyone and spread his word. I am sorry your brother-in-law felt uncomfortable with that question, the lawyer is supposed to help anyone despite their religion beliefs cus like I said that is what God wants for us to love each other as he loves us. Talking about God should not be seen as something bad it's just like if you find out there is a really great place to live with great affordable houses etc don't you want to tell as many people as possible so they can get the same deal? Ofc this cannot compare to Jesus' salvation from dying in the cross but hope you can get my point 🙂

      April 14, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
    • Forward Thinking

      @Fabiola – you COMPLETELY missed the mark. Not only was it non of the lawyers business what religious affiliation my brother-in-law, but I'm fairly certain that by pursuing that particular line of questioning, some law(s) may have been broken.

      I could go on from here, but won't...

      April 14, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
  5. yneeme

    I may not agree with everything Kirk Cameron says but 95% is so, so true – thanks for exercising your God-given voice in an increasingly base, vile and God-less society.

    April 14, 2012 at 1:40 pm |
    • tony

      Mostly due to religious extremism, such as Santorum,, etc., being obviously evil in effect..

      April 14, 2012 at 1:44 pm |
    • Fabiola

      Unfortunately yes there are some people who think of God as a religion, loving God should not be being extremely religious ofc it is his wish for us to congregate and learn more about his word but never his intention to be extremists and judgemental. Perhaps you should analyze the situation better, God has a purpose for everybody I would encourage you to seek him life is so much better with God 🙂

      April 14, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
  6. Pipe-Dreamer

    Mark wrote on Saturday, April 14, 2012 at 12:43 pm, stating, "Concerning Pipe-Dreamer: I have a degree in Philosophy. This guy is confounding the language not to make a point, but to make an appearance. There really is nothing in the way of fact here; rather a series of statements, each contingent upon his beliefs, all taken from an objective source – the Bible. Beliefs never equal Truth."

    So says "Mark" who makes claims for being a "Philosophy" contender! The "degrees" in living one's Life dare seems to outweigh the papered assortments one does entangle upon! One might view Truth to be physically relative yet one may see Truth via Spiritual cunning! The Peabodies of dogmaticalisms' rendered paperworks are pee'd upon and ever thrown away afterwards!

    April 14, 2012 at 1:37 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Translation: BLahhhahhhaneyyyy. Blah, blah. Blah BLAH blah blah. NYEEE, nyeh, nyeeeeehhhh, neh. Blah, BURRRRRP!

      April 14, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
  7. Adam

    Child Celebrities Opposing Kirk Cameron


    This is video is the best.

    April 14, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
  8. tony

    Who or what was the god of the 10 commandments jealous of??? There is very practical reason for that otherwise totally unnecessary comment.

    Because it was obvious to all the street-smart peoples of the time, that the results of worshiping the other idols and/or graven instead got exactly the same actual results. . . . . . . . By Jove.

    April 14, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
    • Fabiola

      God has a purpose for everyone a plan even, He doesnt force anyone to love him or accept him. I can only tell ya that choosing to believe and love God has truly made a big change in my life. I know problems will come I don't pretend God to solve my mistakes but knowing he loves me and is there for me even if I cannot feel him physically I feel him spiritually and that means everything 🙂 like somebody said before having faith in God a God you cannot really see is humankind's biggest challenge.

      April 14, 2012 at 2:16 pm |
  9. Hans

    All Christians hate gay people. This is not news.

    April 14, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
    • JLasaque

      This one doesn't...including (especially) the gay folks in my family...I love gay folks with the same depth of emotion as I love straight folks...Jesus shares my convictions in that regard...in fact, he instilled this ability to love like he does, in me...

      April 14, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
    • Fabiola


      April 14, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Another brilliant response from Fibby.

      April 14, 2012 at 3:16 pm |
  10. sargon the great

    On the one hand, christians say god loves everyone, but on the other hand, christians say god will send you to hell where you will suffer and burn forever if you don't accept him as your god. God sounds like one those crazy guys that kills his wife when she wants a divorce – "If you ever try to leave me, I'll kill you!". I'm going to remain an athiest.

    April 14, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
    • tony

      He must have really loved all the 250,000 innocent tsunami victims

      April 14, 2012 at 1:37 pm |
    • scott

      And you will still be going to hell....

      April 14, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
    • Fabiola

      It is not God who will send you to hell it is Satan who is anxiously waiting for more people to come and join him in hell. God only wants people not to go there which is very very different. How does he do that he makes fun of God's creation and reverse it, God created marriage Satan created adultery, God created Adam and Eve Satan created Adam and Steve. It's funny though more people tend to bvelieve in Satan way more easily than they believe in God. Satan's advertising is unfortunately everywhere he uses many mechanisms and unfrotunately is working =/ has been working for him for millions of years

      April 14, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
  11. Mark B

    For all the people upset with Kirk or non Christians or Bible haters. Does he have a right to his own opinion? If what you assert that Christianity is a minority and you make defamatory personal comments about him and his beliefs, isn't that "intolerance"? Is is ok for you to hate on someone else's beliefs but when yours are disagreed with then a great injustice has occurred? Sorry, that's just plain hypocrisy. Call him small minded or ignorant if you will, but think about that he is following a truth outside of himself, sometimes a truth that gives him great, undesirable grief, instead of being his own God, deciding what is wrong and right completely by ones own set of convenient beliefs. I fear for you that your neighbor may believe it is ok to harm you or take from you based on their morals. I'd rather have an imperfect Christian neighbor who at least with God's help tries to love others and love God as commanded.

    April 14, 2012 at 1:30 pm |
    • Josef Bleaux

      The problem is, evangelicals aren't content with "having an opinion", they want to force their ignorant nonsense on everyone else in the form of legislation. They want your kids to be forced to pray in school, they would like to make not only abortion, but birth control illegal as well. They are hate mongering bigots that are out to persecute anyone that doesn't agree with them. They need to be opposed at every opportunity.

      April 14, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
    • Brad

      make your child pray in school?Maybe if it's a private Christian school. birth control illegal? ok dude. Why don't you go see who is doing the charity work for people in need? A bunch of "hate mongers".

      April 14, 2012 at 1:40 pm |
    • scott

      Couldnt agree with you more and very well said! Never before has there been such a intolerance of peoples faith and opinion. The country has been on a steady slide downwards when it comes to morals in the family unit. Its sad to watch it right before our very eyes but God said this would happen.

      April 14, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
    • Pipe-Dreamer

      Mark B,,,,,,,,,,,, ,.

      Your rationalisms are some of the trueist words I have so far read here in many readings! 🙂

      April 14, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Sorry, but if Kirk advocates outlawing abortion and gay marriage, if he is a proponent of teaching creationism and intelligent design, then he's not simply 'stating his beliefs'. He's attempting to force others to live according to them. And I have EVERY right to ridicule him as he deserves to be ridiculed.

      April 14, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
    • Cq

      Nobody hates the Bible, they just hate what people use the Bible as an excuse for doing.

      April 14, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
  12. tony

    Yet another "you must bow down to my stupidity" rnight-winger – Im exercising my right to froighten you by publicly saying Stop doing things I'm not happy with or there will be hell to pay- bet he'd have shot Trayvon even quicker than Zimmerman

    April 14, 2012 at 1:29 pm |
    • Lisa

      Really, so now it is the right wing Christians who are at fault for a crazy neighborhood watchman? Your intelligence is showing

      April 14, 2012 at 1:35 pm |
    • tony

      They are the backbone of the NRA nowadays actually.

      April 14, 2012 at 1:39 pm |
  13. Lydia

    I admire the man he has guts...that picture sort of looks like he's in jail though, he still looks young for his age maybe there is something to that christian stuff I'd like to see the movie bring it on

    April 14, 2012 at 1:28 pm |
  14. kentuckyscience.com

    Who was the greatest man to have ever been born out of a mothers womb or the greatest man to have ever lived? Jesus is the Son of God, so the obvious answer would be Jesus. However, Jesus says that John the Baptist was the greatest. Jesus was not a liar, so why did he say the John the Baptist was greater than the Christ born of a virgin womb? John the Baptist is associated with loving God, since he prepared the way for Grace. If you are a Christian and you think that Grace is above the greatest commandment you are wrong. Don't take my word for it, read Luke 7:28. Jesus makes it clear that even those who love God the least in the Kingdom of God is greater. Talk about humility, that is remarkable humility by Jesus Christ. Jesus is associated with Grace, one can only get to heaven through the son. This fact alone should make Jesus the Greatest man to have ever come from a mothers womb, however Luke 7:28 can't be overruled. John the Baptist condemned Herod to Hell for being an adulator, since he had no desire to change his ways and Love God. (Mark 6:14-29) John the Baptist is associated with loving God, since he prepared the way for Grace. Why does this matter? John the Baptist got his head cut off for speaking the truth about consequences. It is obvious that Herod used his position as King to do whatever he wanted with complete disregard to God’s Word. That is why John rebuked King Herod! Herod was sinful and unrepentant for his actions. If a preacher tells his congregation that all they need to do is accept Jesus and be saved by Grace without informing them of the consequences of not being born again, then why should they have any regard to God's word? John the Baptist was not afraid to speak the truth about the importance of loving God. Money made Herod appear to have authority. How much authority does he have now?

    Finite Universe – zero and one are equal (matter can be infinitely divided into nothing – God is Nothing that created everything out of emptiness) "At the Planck distance and the Planck time all physics, as we know it today collapses. This is the reason we call the beginning of the big bang a singularity. You cannot apply ordinary reasoning there. Zero and one have no sense there.OK?" J-P Burri There should be no doubt in anyone’s mind that the Big Bang views one and zero as being equal, since it states that zero appeared out of the absence of zero; then zero created something. Many scientists believe or have faith that light does not have mass, thus they believe the Universe is Finite. Religion promotes the most commonly accepted idea of the group. If light does not have mass, then it would be impossible to move an electron. Light described as a particle means nothing, if it has no mass since it would be impossible to distinguish from nothing because no mass means void of substance. If it has no substance, then nothing is present to distinguish the particle from other particles.
    The Big Bang theory prevents any condition where something has always been. Infinity is defined as the difference between one and zero. Once one and zero are the same according to the big bang, the definition of infinity as stated above is no longer valid. If the big bang occurred, all math's must deal with the proof of 0=1.

    April 14, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
    • Josef Bleaux

      Delusional much?

      April 14, 2012 at 1:28 pm |
    • tony

      Hey – a fertile imagination, listening to voices in your head and self-righteousness best thinking and education every time. Or so you'd like to believe so much, that you invented it.

      April 14, 2012 at 1:31 pm |
    • Canadain

      Ever heard of evidence? (no ..feelings do not count as evidence) America's biggest problem is the uneducated fearful right wing. You're a prime example!

      April 14, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Another moron who can't spell spews his lack of education all over the board.

      Why are so many of you so ignorant?

      April 14, 2012 at 1:46 pm |
    • Michael

      This is the result of defunding education and teaching mythology to children as if it were fact.

      April 14, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
  15. steven harnack

    It's like entertaining in prison, you have a captive audience. It's called being a niche entertainer.

    April 14, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
  16. scatheist

    Is he planning on reading the Bible too? I mean the whole thing.

    April 14, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
  17. JohnRJohnson

    It is people like Kirk Cameron who make me ashamed to call myself Christian. He uses his peculiar religious beliefs to justify his prejudices. And he has plenty of them. He called gays "abnormal" on national television. He believes in creationism, which is basically an episode of the Flintstones. Boneheads like Cameron are the reason we have the Tea Party and a political movement that thinks we were better off in the mid-19th century.

    April 14, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
    • Potion4

      If I dont know you how do I approach you? if I want to know you, do I need to know what you stand for? Then how can a man come to God unless he comes correct? Read the word, eat the word and allow the word to cleanse deliver and make you whole again. For God sooooo loved the world that he gave...... will you accept?

      April 14, 2012 at 1:49 pm |
      • JohnRJohnson

        You are so immersed in your religious dogma that you are incapable of relating to anybody who doesn't parrot back your beliefs. Like many Christians, you lack sensitivity to other people's beliefs and tend to trivialize your own beliefs by trying to peddle them to everyone else. Keep it to yourself.

        April 18, 2012 at 4:30 pm |
    • Fabiola

      If you do believe in God, then shouldnt you know God created Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve? Love the sinner, not the sin and NOT love the sinner and adore the sin.

      April 14, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      GOSHERS! That's a GOOD one, Fabiola! Did you just come up with that cute saying all by YOURSELF! You must be BRILLIANT. And SO original, too.

      April 14, 2012 at 2:24 pm |
      • JohnRJohnson


        April 18, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
  18. JustinCalif

    Kirk Cameron is biggoted idiot trying to use his FORMER fame as leverage to promote his brainwashed way of thinking about the world.

    April 14, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
  19. JLasaque

    Anti-gay bias espoused publicly by a Christian evangelist/pastor/commentator/etc., for example, is not anti-Christian because it promotes negativity toward gay folks...it's problematic because it's idolatrous and anti-gospel...open your yap and get people talking about "gayness" being either o.k with Jesus, or sinful, and you necessarily turn folks away from relationship with Christ, and get them focused on their respective postion, being right, and looking good...your argument becomes your idol. Jesus simply wants your chief affections focused on him; placing HIM in control of your life...once saved, you've moved from death into life, despite your continuing sinful nature and correspondig acts...What Cameron needs to tell any of his children (as I would tell mine) should one of his children come to him with news that he/she is gay, is that he loves them, and most importantly Jesus loves them, and they need to repent of their sins and commit their lives to Christ...Christians should love gay folksdesparately, just as they do everyone else, and do NOTHING that says "don't worry God...I got this one...I'll pass legislation so folks can't offend you..." God's bigger than all of us, and he's got everything, from justice to reward, covered...Love them all...let God sort them out...

    April 14, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
    • momoya

      God is SOO big that he defies definition and cannot be proved to exist.

      April 14, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
    • JLasaque

      Depends on your standard of proof Momoya...philosophers would say you can't prove anything definatively...you can make probablistic statements about variables supporting or refuting your argument, and people can add those statements together, and DECIDE In Sum whether the argument holds water or not, but absolute proof is never possible...

      The reason GOD revealed himself through a chosen people, then sent a personal representative in his own fleshly personage to personally expound on his revelation, is because of the very point you make...You are absolutely correct...GOD is infinitely huge, and we can only comprehend what we were created to undertand about GOD and our universe...

      April 14, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
    • tony

      So Huge and all-powerful – which is why none of his followers on Earth can get by without "huge" collection plate and other donations, to make up for the all-powerful's inability to miraculously make even a penny by himself.

      April 14, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
    • JLasaque

      tony...he (God) already made every penny that has ever existed...he lovingly gives those pennies to us, and asks those of us blessed with more pennies and Christ's love in our hearts, to give to others who do not have enough, so that recipients may experience God's love through his body on earth. Christians giving an offering are merely giving God back what was already and always his, so he can bless others less fortunate.

      April 14, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • momoya

      As we are fallible beings of course nothing can be proved definitively.. As you said, we can observe our universe and state likely probabilities.. The probability that the god of the bible is real, despite all the inaccuracies, contradictions, and general stupidity of the bible, is precisely zero or close enough to it that we may as well call it "zero."

      April 14, 2012 at 2:47 pm |
  20. John

    It would be great if these delusional evangelicals would keep their faith private, and that is true for Christians, Jews, Muslims, and Hindu's alike. Buddhism doesn't worship a God, it's a pure living philosophy that should frighten the zealots who use their faiths in the same way that carnival barkers try to sell their act to empty eyed patrons.

    April 14, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
    • Mark B

      John he is commanded not to keep his faith quiet

      April 14, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
    • Fabiola

      and I guess if you have the cure for cancer let's say you would also keep it for yourself and let everybody die correct? Nah people who really love God and know how life is great with him do want to let other people know family, homeless people etc something that good we should not be selfish and keep it to ourselves 🙂

      April 14, 2012 at 2:26 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You don't KNOW anything of the sort, Fibber. And you shouldn't be permitted to insist others share your delusions against their will.

      April 14, 2012 at 2:27 pm |
    • Fabiola

      Hi Tom Tom I'm sorry you feel by sharing my experience in life from believing in God makes you feel Im forcing people. I am just exercising my free speech right and I feel like sharing that now whether people want to experience what I have it's up to them 🙂 I am just sharing the good just sharing the good news, keep blessed my friend

      April 14, 2012 at 2:32 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      No, what you want to 'share' is your denigration of gays, your lack of education in the sciences, and your ignorance of the English language.

      April 14, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
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