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April 20th, 2012
05:02 AM ET

Belief Blog's Morning Speed Read for Friday, April 20

By Laura Koran, CNN

Here's the Belief Blog’s morning rundown of the top faith-angle stories from around the United States and around the world. Click the headlines for the full stories.

From the Blog:

CNN: Romney to deliver Liberty University commencement speech
Mitt Romney will deliver the commencement address at the evangelical Christian university led by Jerry Falwell, Jr., Liberty University said in a Thursday post to their website. The school, located in Lynchburg, Virginia, will host the likely GOP nominee for their May 12 graduation.

CNN: Vatican blasts American nuns, calls for reforms
The Vatican is turning up the heat on a group of nuns it says are operating outside of the Roman Catholic Church's doctrines. The Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith, the church’s doctrinal watchdog, on Wednesday announced the conclusion of a years-long “doctrinal assessment” investigation of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious, which represents 80% of the Catholic nuns in the United States. The “assessment reveals serious doctrinal problems,” said the report, which called for major reforms.

Tweet of the Day:

From @houstonbelief: Producers continue search for ‘Christian Housewives’ cast http://bit.ly/JaTs7e

Enlightening Reads:

Reuters: Merkel ally says Islam not part of Germany
A leading member of Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservatives said on Thursday that Islam did not belong to Germany, remarks sure to stir controversy as the government hosts a conference to improve the integration of Muslims.

Religion News Service: Young ‘Millennials’ losing faith in record numbers
A growing tide of young Americans is drifting away from the religions of their childhood - and most of them are ending up in no religion at all. One in four young adults choose “unaffiliated” when asked about their religion, according to a new report from the Public Religion Research Institute and Georgetown University’s Berkley Center for Religion, Peace & World Affairs.

ABC News: Four Muslim Men Say Texas IHOP Franchise Fired Them for Religion and Nationality
Four former managers of IHOP restaurants in Texas are fighting the owner of the franchise they worked for in court, claiming they were wrongfully terminated based on their "nationality and religion."

Catholic News Agency: Vatican's UN observer says Americans must defend global religious liberty
American Catholics must defend authentic religious freedom around the world to prevent the threat of religious persecution at home, said the head Vatican representative to the United Nations. “What is at stake here is the future of humanity itself,” underscored Archbishop Francis A. Chullikatt, who serves as the Holy See’s permanent observer to the U.N.

Quote of the Day:

They really wanted to create a universe parallel to our own. They wanted to reinvent creation. And in that universe, in that creation, a new language was invented, a new attitude towards human being, a new God. An S.S. man was God. We had no right to look at an S.S. man in the face, because you cannot look into God's face and remain alive.

Elie Wiesel recounts his story of life in the Nazi concentration camps to Bill Moyers on Holocaust Remembrance Day in 1991. Holocaust Remembrance Day, or Yom Hashoah, marks the anniversary of the Warsaw ghetto uprising, which occurred 69 years ago Thursday.

Today’s Opinion:

CNN: My Take: 7 life lessons from a Holocaust survivor
Caroline Stoessinger, a concert pianist and author, recounts the lessons she learned from her friend Alice Herz-Sommers, who is the world's oldest survivor of the Holocaust.

Join the conversation…

CNN: New Bible translation aims at 'own it but haven't read it' demo
The "own it but haven't read it" demographic is his target market, says Capes, who teaches the New Testament at Houston Baptist University and was part of a team that compiled "The Voice," a new translation of the King James Bible. Capes told CNN that the motivation behind the translation, seven years in the making, was to emphasize the meaning behind the words.

- CNN's Laura Koran

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  1. PunishBook

    How to Punish the evil islamic books without souls? By Burning of course. For Reality See muslim will burn their own irrelevant primitive islamic words to punish the Sins of islamic ego as foretold by islam itself.

    April 21, 2012 at 9:19 am |
  2. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things
    Proven

    April 20, 2012 at 5:46 pm |
    • Caffeine Mode

      ...to be wrong.

      There. Fixed it for ya.

      April 21, 2012 at 3:30 am |
    • nope

      @CM
      nope

      April 21, 2012 at 7:30 am |
    • danielwalldammit

      No, it doesn't.

      April 22, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
    • Jesus

      You're a proven liar. Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!.!.

      April 23, 2012 at 10:59 am |
  3. martog

    1. You believe that the pope has personal conversations with God (that nobody else ever hears) and is infallible when speaking on matters of Church doctrine. You then wistfully ignore the fact that Church doctrine changes and that former popes therefore could not possibly have been “infallible”. Limbo, for example, was touted by pope after pope as a place where un-baptized babies who die go, until Pope Benedict XVI just eradicated it (or, more accurately, so watered it down as effectively eradicate it in a face saving way). Seems all those earlier “infallible” Popes were wrong – as they were on Adam and Eve v. evolution, heliocentricity v. egocentricity, and a host of other issues that required an amendment of official Church doctrine. You also ignore the innumerable murders, rampant corruption and other crimes committed over the centuries by your “infallible”, god-conversing popes.
    2. You reject the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours. You are blissfully (or intentionally) blind to the fact, that had you been born in another part of the World, you would be defending the local god(s) and disdaining the incorrectness of Catholic beliefs.
    3. You begrudgingly accept evolution (about a century after Darwin proved it and after accepting Genesis as literally true for about 2,000 years) and that Adam and Eve was totally made up, but then conveniently ignore that fact that your justification for Jesus dying on the cross (to save us from Original Sin) has therefore been eviscerated. Official Church literature still dictates a belief in this nonsense.
    4. You disdain native beliefs as “polytheist” and somehow “inferior” but cannot explain (i) why being polytheistic is any sillier than being monotheistic. Once you make the quantum leap into Wonderland by believing in sky-fairies, what difference does if make if you believe in one or many?; nor (ii) why Christians believe they are monotheistic, given that they believe in god, the devil, guardian angels, the holy spirit, Jesus, many demons in hell, the Virgin Mary, the angel Gabriel, thousands of saints, all of whom apparently make Earthly appearances periodically, and all of whom inhabit their life-after-death lands with magic-sacred powers of some kind.
    5. You bemoan the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don`t even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees or the 3,000 Israelites killed by Moses for worshipping the golden calf (or the dozen or so other slaughters condoned by the bible). You also like to look to god to for guidance in raising your children, ignoring the fact that he drowned his own – according to your Bible.
    6. You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that God impregnated Mary with himself, to give birth to himself, so he could sacrifice himself to himself to “forgive” an ”Original Sin” that we now all know never happened.
    7. You disdain gays as sinners, but have no problem when Lot got drunk and committed father-daughter in.cest (twice) or offered his daughters to a mob to be gang ra.ped, or when Moses, time and again, offered his wife up for the “pleasures” of the Egyptians to save his own skin.
    8. You believe that your god will cause anyone who does not accept your Bronze Age stories to suffer a penalty an infinite times worse than the death penalty (burning forever in excruciating torture) simply because of their healthy skepticism, yet maintain that god “loves them”.
    9. You will totally reject any scientific breakthrough that is inconsistent with your established doctrine, unless and until it is so generally accepted as to back you into a corner. While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you of the deep inanity of your silly faith, some priest doing magic hand signals over bread and wine is enough to convince you it is thereby transformed into the flesh and blood of Jesus because of the priest’s magic powers (or “sacred powers” to the extent you see a difference).
    10. You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to Lourdes, Fátima and other magic places and prayers in general. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. The remaining 99.99% failure was simply “god moving in mysterious ways”. The fact that, if you ask for something repeatedly, over and over, year after year, sooner or later that thing is bound to happen anyway, has not even occurred to you. A stopped clock is right twice a day.
    11. You accept the stories in the Bible without question, despite not having the slightest idea of who actually wrote them, how credible these people were or how long the stories were written after the alleged events they record occurred. For example, it is impossible for Moses to have written the first five books of the Old Testament, as Catholics believe. For one, they record his death and events after his death. In fact, the chance of the Bible being historically accurate in any but the broadest terms is vanishingly small.
    Heavens, I could not fit them into ten. Maybe, if they pray hard enough to their sky-fairy, the Catholics can turn them into 10

    April 20, 2012 at 5:32 pm |
  4. Prayer changes things

    Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    April 20, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
    • Trolling for Jesus

      Trolling changes things.

      April 20, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
    • Jesus

      "Prayer changes things"

      Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!.!.

      April 20, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
  5. MY BRANE HURTZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    CNN HIRED SOMEWON NAMED "KORAN" TO WRITE ON THU BELIEFR BLOG?!?!?!?!?!?! WHAT A BUNCH OF KOMMYNIST NATZI SOCIALIZT LIBTARD ATHEEE, UH, AFIEZ, UH, GOD HATERZ CNN IS!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT'S WHAT RUSH AND FOX TOLD ME TO THINK TODAY, SO I CAAME HERE AND THINKED IT!!!!!!!!!! I WONDER WHAT I'M GONNA THINK NEXT? BETTER TURN ON THE TV AND RADIO, TURN THEM BOTH UP REEEEEL LOUD!

    April 20, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
    • Spock

      It would have been better had you not come in here than...

      April 20, 2012 at 2:48 pm |
  6. Plain Ol' Dreamer

    Atheists are vindicative fools and mongeringly foolish and their foolishness ways of perverse animosities does ever abound upon generalites of supposed freedoms to antagonize the proverbial enemies of relative generalisms regarding the all mighty sciences foundations in high and even higher minded placements! Just who the hell's bells are they profoundly ringing?

    Truth be told, in orders for us humanists to "carry on" without social anarchists spreading ever so across all lands, the scales of bigotry and religiocity must be balanced with weights of infidelities' ambiguities and finalities'.responsibilities! Religions and the religious must always be ever mindful of those social perversions that tend towards sidelining the heavenly built hosts of Humanists from ever undulating calamatousness thru unseen forces in the workings of the allness whole and holes in and of Life!

    April 20, 2012 at 11:19 am |
    • WIlliam Demuth

      Quick Robin, hand me the "ridiculous religious blathering’s eradicator ray"!

      ZAPPPP, Boffo, ZINGGGG! POW!!

      Ahh, once again Gotham City is safe, till the next time he and his madness run free.

      We must remain vigilant boy wonder, so the dark scourge of this Christian Psychofrenic shall not darken our streets again!

      April 20, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • Plain Ol' Dreamer

      WIlliam Demuth,,,,,,,,,,,, ,.

      Talking about one living in a dreamworld,,,,,,,,,,

      April 20, 2012 at 11:56 am |
    • Robin

      Uh, Batman? The Stupid Dreamer, otherwise known as Fop Wordmangler, isn't really a "dark scourge" as he is a blithering nincompoop.

      April 20, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Robin

      Yes I know, but without a new threat, Gotham City will cut super hero subsidies again, and the Batgirl wont be able to have the boob job!

      She's been sagging a bit!

      April 20, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
    • Robin

      What! That cannot be true! Her Bat Yabos scoff at gravity!

      I thought the subsidies were to upgrade the special x-rated tools in her utility belt!

      Uh, I think I'll go enter her bat cave. Be right back.

      April 20, 2012 at 12:28 pm |
    • danielwalldammit

      Always amusing to see how quickly a dispute within a given church quickly becomes an excuse to bash unbelievers. And good fun was had by all...

      April 22, 2012 at 5:38 pm |
  7. Plain Ol' Dreamer

    Of Rockiness are the sterilzed wants and ravings of bittered people's fruits! Young is their trees and loftless their idiocies' repentedness! Were not people born from their parents' lusts after fleshly things? Does one not tender to one' s lustlessness ideals? Good heavens No! It seems way too easy to wantonly do things of immoral values then to create and establish one their ownliness Acts in righteousness accords! Humanisms are mankinds' creations, not Gods! The jungled gymnasiums most humanists take high flying rationalisms do openly abort their oneness with God! For as humanists flock together en mass, their individual cunning becomes alikened to hypnotic suggestives from braggerville central!

    April 20, 2012 at 11:01 am |
    • William Demuth

      Methinks the dude's dope has been laced!

      The post is like an autistic Shakesperean actor.

      Adderall and cognitive therapy seem indicated

      April 20, 2012 at 11:06 am |
    • William Demuth

      He has a flair consistent with an evil vililan from the 1960's Batman series.

      A pompusness reserved for the criminaly insane!

      Quick light the Bat Signal, so we can be spared the Nefarious trickster!

      April 20, 2012 at 11:10 am |
    • Robin

      Well let's give them some appropriate villian names then!

      All of the just sayins is King Slut

      Rainy Braindead wil henceforth be The Mad Fatter

      Nii is hereby named "Mr. Wheeze"

      Mark From Middle River is now known as "The Diddler"

      April 20, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Robin

      Not the ever dreaded Kiddie Diddler Superman warned me of?

      Holy Panty Wearing Preverts the dogma is gonna hit the fan!

      April 20, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
  8. Ykcyc

    I am a believer – in a self-fulfilled prophecy. What we believe in determines our reality. If we believe Life is a struggle – it will become one. If we believe there is no Love – we are not going to find it. If we believe Life sucks – it will. If we believe we have problems – we will get them. And on and on. It’s that simple. Basically, we have to pay careful attention to and be mindful of what we believe in. The intensity of one’s convictions is not proof of their validity. Just because we think something is true, does not make it so. Whatever (everything) we try to hold on to will be lost (gone forever), including any convictions, ideas, ideologies, opinions, believes, positions, wants, etc. Enjoy your time in the Sun! Peace!

    April 20, 2012 at 10:31 am |
    • Zog, Caveman Extraordinaire

      Your perception does not determine your reality, it just determines the amount of delusion you view it with.

      April 20, 2012 at 10:36 am |
    • Plain Ol' Dreamer

      Where does one look to or towards in order to find that which we are told to seek as scripture does declare one to do?

      Mathew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

      The Gospels have within its' writings their precepts as to just where the Kingdom of God is located! Do you Leo know of the whereabouts and exact location of God's Kingdom Domains? I've searched the Gospel writings and have found a single verse telling all who have found it as to the true and literal location of God's Kingdomly Domains!

      Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is inside you.

      I take Luke 17:21 quite literally and so should all who believe in One God and His One Son of perhaps oodles upon oodles of otherly Sons and Daughters too numerous to really expound upon! Christ is special because he was born to take upon his being the sins of those who were and then were also and of times yet to come! God's Kingdoms being inside us and within our ownliness bodies can also be associated with another verse of scripture ,,,,,

      1Corinthians 3:9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, [ye are] God's building.

      The just above verse does tell much more than just glimpsing over it could proclude! Our being labourers with God may well seem to give us all an equal footing with God and his aspirations for our betterment's sakes! His being our husbandry may well regard God as having a firm footing in our conceptions of childbirthing beyond mere genetic understandings! But in the aboveness verse, the very understanding that we or our bodies are God's buildings may well inspire one to disavow such a claim due one's foresightedness sakes and lacking of rationalisms' of credible resources. Yet, as I see things, we, our bodies are not only God established and God created buildings for the benefits of the Godly who reside inside of us, but are for our benefits for learning and understanding the precepts of "Fractal Cosmologies"!

      We have seen that which our bodies are made up of and they are of cellularized structures not "unlike" stellarized structures in outer space places! These stellarized structures are yet a work-in-progress and our body-like buildings are a progress in the works!

      These words are revelations of my Faith as to my Godly understandings regarding the Kingdom Domains of God, his Sons and his Daughters and all forms and mannerisms of Life-ever-lasting principles and principalities of progressives!

      April 20, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • Ykcyc

      @zog
      I agree, but where did you perceve "perception" in this post?

      April 20, 2012 at 11:24 am |
    • Zog, Caveman Extraordinaire

      Are you seriously telling me that you still think beliefs determine your reality despite saying you agree with me?

      Are you just brain dead or brain damaged? How can anyone be as stupid as that? Seriously!

      There you are saying you think anyone's actual psychosis actually determines reality for everyone! You are fking insane.

      April 20, 2012 at 1:06 pm |
    • Ykcyc

      I believe you have answered your own question. If you are able to point your attention – you will see it.
      And that is your "reality", based on your own perception. I guess you are "extraordinary", I just don't know "what".
      That's OK. Life will have a cure for you and your distorted delusional perception. Just relax a little. Enjoy the time you have.

      April 20, 2012 at 1:35 pm |
  9. Nonimus

    Is there more to the 'Islam not part of Germany' story, because the linked article makes it sound like they're just handing out free copies of the Koran. Is that illegal in Germany? I don't think I understand the issue.

    April 20, 2012 at 10:28 am |
  10. Chad

    The Bible is NOT a book with the primary aim of increasing mankind's understanding of the universe that God created.
    It is NOT a self help book aimed at telling us how we can improve our lives or better ourselves
    It is NOT a book with the primary aim of introducing societal changes such that the earth becomes a better place.

    It is simply the narrative of the God of Abraham's interaction with fallen man over the course of thousands of years, redeeming us from our current estranged situation through the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

    April 20, 2012 at 10:23 am |
    • Zog, Caveman Extraordinaire

      It is simply a bunch of lies. You haven't quite understood that part of it yet. Keep reading it. It is so obvious any half-intelligent person will see it in time unless they are totally brainwashed like the dumbest communist fresh from a re-education camp.

      April 20, 2012 at 10:34 am |
    • Plain Ol' Dreamer

      Chad,,,,,,

      Lies lies lies! What about the "God of Adam" being the very first God who created Adam who begat Eve by Adams ribbing moments?

      April 20, 2012 at 10:35 am |
    • momoya

      You make those claims because the bible turned out not to offer correct information on the universe, our lifestyle, or a well-running society.. But what if the bible had turned out to be extremely precise on its claims of how the earth and heavens were made?. You'd be singing a different tune, right?

      The problem with bible believers is that they don't know how accurate anything is inside it until the facts arrive from some other location outside the bible. If we didn't have the tools to understand the cosmos, would Chad or other christians insist that the Genesis account was just a model or allegory, or would they be screaming just as loudly that Genesis was absolutely correct-and they knew that by faith and trust in god's word?

      The bible doesn't give the believer a method by which he can tell which passages are to be taken literally or figuratively.. It's only AFTER some discovery is made that the christians go running to the "Oh-it-was-only-metaphorical" defense.. If the bible itself doesn't provide a way for the believer to tell which passages are literal and which are moral stories, then the believer can NEVER be assured that what he is believing is true..

      The bible has been proven wrong over and over and over where science can test its claims; therefore, it is stupid to trust the bible on the claims that cannot be proved or disproved.. In short, it's stupid to trust the bible as any guide to "truth."

      April 20, 2012 at 10:46 am |
    • Plain Ol' Dreamer

      momoya,,,,,, ,,,,,, ,.

      Pedistals or pedastals or pedestals are ever upon pompous humanistic allegations ever bewailing to be knocked and mocked by the many who enmass upon their ownliness adornments to be positioned in such a mannerism so not to be fallen from one's perch!

      April 20, 2012 at 10:56 am |
    • Chad

      @momoya "You make those claims because the bible turned out not to offer correct information on the universe, our lifestyle, or a well-running society.. But what if the bible had turned out to be extremely precise on its claims of how the earth and heavens were made?. You'd be singing a different tune, right?"
      @Chad "not true.
      The information that the Bible presents IS demonstrably true (origin of the universe, origin and progression of life on earth, history, etc..), it's just that that information isnt the primary aim of the Bible. So complaints such as "well, the Bible doesnt tell us such-and-such about whatever ring hollow, because that was never the primary aim.

      ===========
      @momoya "The problem with bible believers is that they don't know how accurate anything is inside it until the facts arrive from some other location outside the bible. If we didn't have the tools to understand the cosmos, would Chad or other christians insist that the Genesis account was just a model or allegory, or would they be screaming just as loudly that Genesis was absolutely correct-and they knew that by faith and trust in god's word?"
      @Chad "It is certainly true that a huge amount of what is in the bible gets proved true over time as our understanding of the universe progresses. That of course is powerful evidence for the authenticity of the bible 🙂 "

      ===========
      @momoya "The bible doesn't give the believer a method by which he can tell which passages are to be taken literally or figuratively.."
      @chad "your error is in assuming that the bible is written to be a text book and that clear explanation of the concepts being presented is it's number one priority.
      It isnt
      The number one priority is to draw you into a saving relationship. It is very unique in that aspect.

      ===========
      @momoya "The bible has been proven wrong over and over and over where science can test its claims;"
      @Chad "I'll ask the question even knowing that you will NEVER provide an example of your accusation..
      but
      Example please?

      April 20, 2012 at 11:31 am |
    • Spock

      True the bible is all about Jesus...now go and do thou llikewise preach it upon the houstops...like he said...

      April 20, 2012 at 2:52 pm |
  11. Plain Ol' Dreamer

    The loves en mass of the massed will ever be amassing! The hatreds en mass are as dwindling fires with not much sources for continuations of the hatred embers! Leading is that which someone does dare to follow! Leaders are en mass as are amassings' followers! To witt are of wittiness witticisms and en mass does witt engage the begotten witticisms of wittiness! Therewith go the dying embers of hatreds' gallying ways while the amassings of will ever be to one's tugs of witt and in the begotten of wittiness shall ever be the lovers of and believers' in witts' ends! May God bless us all forever more!

    April 20, 2012 at 10:22 am |
    • Spock

      if al thsi is true what you say then you're wasting youyr time talking about it here...make better use of of what time you've got left.

      April 20, 2012 at 2:54 pm |
  12. Plain Ol' Dreamer

    Change begets the changling! Loves' begotten begat love in its' firstly born form! Deny the deniers of deniables' deniabilities! The changes of deniables will ever be in any deniered changlings! Deny therefore to change! For Love was denied once and in changing of changlings' deniables was love denied agains, but in the thrice denied the denier is tried and whether found in guilt the changling was made or was built!, Therefore, change ye not one's begotten first love! Keep within one's everness changing that which was once firsted in hands of your changling way! Let Go and let God! Amen!

    April 20, 2012 at 10:07 am |
    • Nonimus

      I don't think quitting the Pipe has helped at all... try quitting the keyboard, see if that works.

      April 20, 2012 at 10:26 am |
    • Plain Ol' Dreamer

      Nonimus,,,,,,,,,,,, ,.

      Such negamosity seems to become you,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,.

      April 20, 2012 at 10:45 am |
  13. Plain Ol' Dreamer

    I am no Catholic! Should one who isn't never be? Catholocism is a bit wee of ritualized seances and adores the forms of humanists! So do the atheists and even the Christians love and adore the forms of humanties' figures! Leeches all of them who swoon to and to be figurines of beauty while not giving alms to the atrosciousness figures of humanists who have beautiful souls and hearts and minds! I am an ugliness beyond the ugly of uglier's ugliest! I am a vomit bag looking for a waste basket! May God find mercies upon my ugliness ways and meanings! Is this Life all there is? No After-death Life?

    April 20, 2012 at 9:45 am |
    • Zog, Caveman Extraordinaire

      Hey CS, pull yer head out of yer ass and say something worth reading.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:59 am |
  14. Plain Ol' Dreamer

    Believe and do Dream
    written by Plain ol' Dreamer

    Generationed upon the cusps intentioned we go,
    Life unceasing thru seasonal snow!
    Cherished are all things Life,
    Barter man not for his souled one wife!
    Keep therein your mind's abatements,
    No shoveling needs tire of fruited constrainments
    .
    Live free or ever die trying to be,
    Drink freely the waters of many who see!
    Sup up that which contains much fruitedness,
    Of God and the godly humanists to due One to bless!
    Fractals of the derived impleasentries voidals of space,
    Make known therefore those willing to grace!

    Love all that one truly can without just malice,
    Seek God who lives ever inside you in His rented palace!
    God and His brethrens will ever be told,
    Humanisms never too proud or even too bold!
    Love your ownliness as you seek that which you yearn toward,
    Another Life after death is all people's greatest reward!

    April 20, 2012 at 9:40 am |
  15. Atheism = Losers

    Believing sophisticated lies gives them a false sense of power.

    April 20, 2012 at 9:35 am |
    • Jack

      That's a soul savin' sermon if I ever heard one.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:39 am |
    • momoya

      I don't mind being called a loser by somebody who believes in talking snakes and invisible diseases (sin) in invisible body parts (soul) and a big magic sky daddy created everything with a magic spell.. Nope, call me a loser any time, deluded nutbag.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:57 am |
    • Nonimus

      Considering that Atheism is a lack of belief, it would seem that your analysis is incorrect.

      April 20, 2012 at 10:31 am |
    • Atheism = Losers

      Just for information: The "soul" is not a body part; it is a summation. Body + Breath of life = a soul. (The “breath of life” is a synonym for that mysterious element that causes a thing to be a living being.) A crude illustration: A light bulb is not a light. Electricity is not light. Applied electricity to a light bulb = light. "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Gen 2:7 (Some translations read: “a living being”)

      As for a “talking snake” That was just a deceitful illusion of Satan giving the appearance of a “ talking snake”. Have you never heard of a ventriloquist?

      April 20, 2012 at 10:52 am |
    • Atheism = Losers

      @ Nonimus: No atheism is a belief, atheist “believe” in evolution.

      April 20, 2012 at 10:57 am |
    • momoya

      @Atheism =

      I've never heard any other christian describe a soul in that way, but then again, christians are famous for having all sorts of weird ideas about what the bible says.. None of them have to agree, they just have to agree that "faith" in your opinion about the bible's myths, regardless of how many other christians do or don't agree with your interpretation..

      You guys believe that the universe was created by a magic spell from a big, invisible sky-daddy wizard.. You believe in a whole other realm that can't be detected at all.. The stuff you guys believe in all seems to be invisible and undetectable.. I mean, at what point does an undetectable force and being just thought of as non-existent?. I mean, if I have an invisible dragon in my garage that breathes invisible, undetectable fire, and that exists in another dimension so that my garage can be filled with cars and junk while he's in there breathing invisible and harmless fire–what's the difference in it existing like that and not existing?

      April 20, 2012 at 11:04 am |
    • momoya

      @Atheism=

      No, atheism is NOT a belief.. You are an atheist to Allah–Islam's god since you lack belief in it.. Atheists lack belief in your god like you lack belief in Allah.. Atheism is no more a belief that bald is a hair color.

      April 20, 2012 at 11:06 am |
    • J.W

      Atheism is a belief. It is just not a religion. If you lack belief that means you have no opinion one way or another whether there is a god or not. So agnosticism would be more of a lack of belief than atheism.

      April 20, 2012 at 11:19 am |
    • Atheism = Losers

      @ monoya:
      Definition of BELIEF
      1: a state or habit of mind in which trust or confidence is placed in some person or thing
      2: something believed; especially : a tenet or body of tenets held by a group
      3: conviction of the truth of some statement or the reality of some being or phenomenon especially when based on examination of evidence
      Atheism easily fits within these parameters.

      April 20, 2012 at 11:27 am |
    • lunchbreaker

      @ J.W, this argument is constantly lost to semantics. Whether you call yourself athiest or agnostic isn't as important as how you approach the question, "Does God exist?"

      April 20, 2012 at 11:35 am |
    • lunchbreaker

      What I don't understand is the need for theists to say athiesm is a belief, as if that is a negative quality.

      April 20, 2012 at 11:38 am |
    • Atheism = Losers

      @ momoya:‭ ‬You are right,‭ ‬there are a lot of disagreements among professing Christians.‭ ‬There are‭ “‬supposed‭” ‬truths that many protestants accept that can not be supported by scripture.‭ ‬Many of these beliefs,‭ ‬and I might add:‭ ‬customs and rituals,‭ ‬are those that have been fostered by the Roman Catholic Church,‭ ‬but without any biblical basis.‭ ‬Unfortunately,‭ ‬many do not study the Bible to determine what the Bible teaches,‭ ‬but accept what is preached from the pulpit.‭ ‬And,‭ ‬again,‭ there are ‬many do not practice what is preached from the pulpit,‭ ‬i.e.,‭ ‬treating their fellow man with respect and love.
      I have a feeling that if more Christians practiced that they claim to believe there would be far less atheists.

      April 20, 2012 at 11:49 am |
    • lunchbreaker

      Speaking of practicing what you preach, how is using the name Atheism = losers, "‬treating their fellow man with respect and love."?

      April 20, 2012 at 11:56 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Atheism is a negative statement that says only what one does NOT believe.
      It does not imply any behaviours, morals, or characteristics whatsoever.
      Not all atheists believe in evolution.
      Just like not all Christians believe in talking snakes, or that man is made from dust and woman from a rib.

      April 20, 2012 at 12:38 pm |
    • Atheism = Losers

      @lunchbreaker: No, it depends on how you look at it; it is actually it is a positive statement, it is stating the truth, truth is positive. Atheist are losers, they are loosing out on the on the promises of God and salvation. God does not want any of His children to be lost, it is only by their decision that they are lost. However, it is not my intention to “preach” to you, so I'll leave it at that.

      April 20, 2012 at 1:04 pm |
    • J.W

      The word belief can apply to other things beside adherence to a deity. In religion there must be a supernatural element, but that is not necessarily true in pertaining to the word belief.

      April 20, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
    • Atheism = Losers

      @ Doc V: How, if some atheist do not believe in evolution, do they explain why we are here?

      April 20, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      Just out of curiosity, if not to "preach", what is your purpose hear?

      April 20, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
    • Nii

      MOMOYA
      I thought you were gunning for the atheist St Paul. Now your religion is not a religion? Then how come you r busy with Atheist propaganda, apologetics and evangelism. This is the one place where fake Christians are caught out. Old lady it is time to tell us the church you ministered in.

      April 20, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
    • Spock

      you don't seem to be doing any better ...

      April 20, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      There are people out there who say they believe in vampires. No one would find it unusual if I said, "I don't believe in vampires." We tell our kids all the time, "there's no such thing as [insert fantasy creature here]" So why is it so different when it comes to God? I have never seen a vampire, and have never been shown proof vampires exist. That is why I would say that. The same applies to unicorns, faires and, if you wish, the famous flying spaghetti monster.

      April 20, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
  16. William Demuth

    In honor of 420 Day, A question?

    How many Christians realize Jesus was a stoner?

    There are so many drug references in the bible that one can easily see that the supposed savior of humanity spent a significant amount of time stoned out of his mind!

    One toke over the line Sweet Jesus, one toke over the line!

    Party on!

    April 20, 2012 at 9:35 am |
    • lunchbreaker

      An acquaintance of mine once said, "420 is for amatuer smokers. Real potheads don't know what day it is."

      April 20, 2012 at 10:09 am |
    • J.W

      I do not recall the references right off hand, but if Jesus were alive today I am sure he would be a tree hugging hippie. I think he would probably be in favor of drug legalization and against war.

      April 20, 2012 at 10:14 am |
    • lunchbreaker

      So instead of water to wine, He could turn grass to "grass".

      April 20, 2012 at 10:21 am |
    • William Demuth

      I know a man who insists he met Jesus at a Greatful Dead show.

      I suspect he would have been a fan

      April 20, 2012 at 10:31 am |
    • Nonimus

      How else do you think the Israelis made it 40 years (?) in the desert?
      Isn't the active ingredient in "manna," THC?

      April 20, 2012 at 10:34 am |
    • J.W

      Wow I never thought of that Nominus. They shortened it and took out the 'arilju' part and just called it manna lol

      April 20, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
    • Spock

      @nonimus ...yeah but when they ran of of that pot they was one bad generation for God to deal with ...they should have brought more bitter herb with them...

      April 20, 2012 at 2:58 pm |
  17. Mr Old

    Weenies! Weenies everywhere! Oh, that's just one pouty kid with multiple handles. What a baby.

    April 20, 2012 at 9:31 am |
  18. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    April 20, 2012 at 7:43 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!.!.

      April 20, 2012 at 11:33 am |
    • Spock

      Prayers does change things ... but don't wait till your in trouble to try it out...

      Prayer is like Wilbur and orville Wrights first flight...they could only go so far...

      Now instead of man produced gas to propell our cars and planes and everything that requires energy...

      we all have a lifetime supple of air or more air than we can ever all of us use... I suggest takign all that free air and give an hour of it back to God each day... 🙂

      April 20, 2012 at 3:03 pm |
  19. Hope For The World!

    "A growing tide of young Americans is drifting away from the religions of their childhood – and most of them are ending up in no religion at all."

    April 20, 2012 at 5:14 am |
    • Mirosal

      good!!! That will eliminate a MAJOR source of bigotry and prejudice world-wide. Get rid of religion,and you take away most peoples' reason for hatred for others.

      April 20, 2012 at 5:28 am |
    • just sayin

      A phase most young people go through transitioning to adulthood. Some never leave their faith and all but the worst return to their faith as life progresses. God bless

      April 20, 2012 at 7:48 am |
    • Zog, Caveman Extraordinaire

      You're just lyin.
      No one who has escaped the web of lies would willingly give up all self-respect to join a bunch of delusional gullible people.
      No one who has gained their sanity would willingly go back to being insane.
      Many old people get dementia, alzheimer's, strokes that destroy large chunks of the brain and stuff like that.
      Those people I could believe going back to being insane. Not many others. Not in a truly sincere and honest way. Nope.
      Sounds more like wishful thinking on your part. If only stupid people run back into a burning building, does that make the building a good place to be?
      Just because someone is dying doesn't suddenly give them magical powers of god-like discernment. It just makes them desperate. Christians are a desperate bunch of idiots who fling themselves around like a bunch of drunken monkeys.
      Try getting some mental discipline into your life before you die. Otherwise you are likely to be very sloppy and do dumb things.

      April 20, 2012 at 8:05 am |
    • just sayin

      Guess we will just have to let zog be wrong. Sorry about you zog, stop by the real world if you get the chance. God bless

      April 20, 2012 at 8:54 am |
    • Eric Cartman

      @ just sayin: Who's we? You got a terd in your pocket?

      April 20, 2012 at 9:11 am |
    • Mr Old

      Turds have pockets with turds in them? Who knew?

      April 20, 2012 at 9:46 am |
    • Zog, Caveman Extraordinaire

      Just lyin again. What a surprise. Crazy little kid thinks he can do magic, but repeating empty words is just pathetic.

      Just pathetic. That should be your new name. Try it on. It fits.

      April 20, 2012 at 10:02 am |
    • Twinkle, Twinkle

      Star light, star bright,
      The first star I see tonight;
      I wish I may, I wish I might,
      Have the wish I wish tonight.

      April 20, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
    • Spock

      Why what do ya know just ne 9/11 and they will pack the pews for months depends on how long the threat is taken seriioiusly...
      just ne vaporized city let along several and well ... you get the idea....a lost of very serious prayer will be offered up to God to save our azzes ...

      April 20, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
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