Liberty's choice of Romney leads to angry student response
Students at Liberty University bow in prayer during commencement in 2007. Current students were angered by the choice of Mitt Romney for the 2012 graduation speaker.
April 20th, 2012
06:16 PM ET

Liberty's choice of Romney leads to angry student response

By Laura Bernardini and Dan Merica, CNN

Washington (CNN) – Liberty University students and alumni are accusing the Christian school of violating its own teachings by asking Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints whose adherents are called Mormons, to deliver its 2012 commencement address.

By Friday morning, more than 700 comments had been posted on the school's Facebook page about the Thursday announcement - a majority of them decidedly against the Chancellor Jerry Falwell Jr.’s invitation, citing that the school had taught them Mormonism isn’t part of the Christian faith.

“I can’t support Romney and I am happy I decided not to walk (in the commencement) this year,” wrote student Josh Bergmann. “Liberty University should have gotten a Christian to speak not someone who practices a cult. Shame on you Liberty University.”

Janet Loeffler, a 53-year-old freshman at Liberty, expressed her anger at the decision when contacted by CNN. She also sent a copy of the page of the freshman textbook “The Popular Encyclopedia of Apologetics” which includes the passage, “Mormon doctrine stands in stark contrast to Jewish and Christian monotheism, which teaches that there is only one true God and that every other ‘God’ is a false god.”

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Loeffler’s daughter, Sarah Misch, 33, of Unionville, Virginia, who is also a student at the school said, “I am glad I am not graduating this year. I would not want to end my studies at a Christian university by being sent in to the world at commencement by a Mormon. We came to Liberty because of our faith in Jesus; not for political reasons.”

Holly Stanton Morgan, another student, posted to Facebook, “I am glad that my husband and I won’t be attending his commencement. Mormonism is not Christianity. My commencement is next year. Hopefully they choose more wisely.”

Mark DeMoss, a Liberty graduate, member of the Board of Trustees and a senior adviser to the Romney campaign, said on Friday, “We have had a Jewish commencement speaker, we have had a Catholic commencement speaker, and so, I think people are certainly entitled to their opinion. Social Media certainly provides an outlet for people’s opinions, but I think it is a great thing for the university.”

DeMoss also noted that the night before graduation is the annual Baccalaureate and that event will feature an evangelical Christian speaker.

Liberty University was founded as Lynchburg Baptist College in 1971 by the influential pastor and Moral Majority co-founder Jerry Falwell. He founded the school to be a Christian university for evangelical believers, according to Liberty’s website.

Today, Liberty brands itself as the largest evangelical university in the world, with 82,500 students enrolled either on campus or online.

Liberty University would not comment beyond the press release it sent out Thursday announcing Romney would speak. There will be 14,000 graduates for the May 12th ceremony. The University announced that it expected 34,000 guests.

Previous commencement speakers included previous Republican presidential candidates Sen. John McCain in 2006 and Ronald Reagan in 1980.

The relationship between Mormons and evangelicals has been tested as of late. With Romney as the presumptive nominee for the Republican Party, many political commentators are asking whether the evangelical base, an important voting bloc to the GOP, will come out for Romney.

If those votes hinge on how evangelicals see Mormonism, Romney may need further outreach to the evangelical community. A recent Pew Research Center survey finds that nearly half (47%) of white evangelicals say that Mormonism is not a Christian religion. Sixty-six percent responded the Mormonism and their religion are “very or somewhat different.”

The charge of Mormonism as a cult is not a new one for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Michael Otterson, head of public affairs for the Church, wrote about the word in a 2011 column.

“As part of the rhetorical warfare that has come to characterize modern American political discourse, it was only a matter of time before someone once again used the term “cult” to describe The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” Otterson wrote. He went on to describe the word as a, “a neat, shorthand and rather lazy way of putting a whole group into a box.”

The nation’s largest evangelical denomination, the Southern Baptist Conference, lists the LDS Church as a cult. They specifically cite differences in theology surrounding salvation, baptism, belief in the Trinity, and marriage. A major sticking point between other Christian traditions and Mormons is the Book of Mormon, which Mormons believe is divinely inspired scripture and on par with the Bible. Other Christians do not recognize the Book of Mormon as scripture.

CNN reached out to a LDS church spokesman for further comment but they demurred, stating that the story was a political story.

A Romney spokesman did not respond to questions about the issue.

Not all Facebook comments were negative, though. Tom Johnson added, “Mitt Romney has been invited to give a motivational speech, not a religious sermon. His religious beliefs do not have anything to do with his ability to give a motivational speech at commencement.”

And Kathy Creech added, “I, for one, am pleased that the future President of the United States will be speaking there!”

soundoff (1,597 Responses)
  1. Abinadi

    Oops! Dem Governor Bashes Romney for Polygamist Roots – Forgets About Obama’s Polygamist DAD! I'm just kidding. I defend Romney because people are attacking my religion, but I usually vote democrat – and I actually like Obama.

    April 22, 2012 at 9:44 am |
  2. Nii

    Anti-Mormon diatribe? N just what do u call "good" fruit? If u call me an enemy 4 pointing out that Christ doesnt need secret Temples, special underwear n posthumous baptism how then do u claim the fruit of de Holy Spirit-love, honesty, faithfulness, etc. I don't know y u want to b called Xtian so!

    April 22, 2012 at 9:43 am |
  3. Dzerres

    Wow, what a bunch of nice young folk following in Jesus' footsteps – NOT! I've always wondered what these students "study" at a right wing "christian" college? Since they don't believe in evoluiion, biology, paleontology, earth sciences, or anthropology and many more subjects based on the sciences, the curriculum must be pretty thin. Why an employer other than maybe a fast food joint, would hire any of these "graduates" is beyond me.

    April 22, 2012 at 9:34 am |
  4. Jazz

    So much hypocrisy. So much hatred! Evamgelicals claim to be " Christians" yet Christ taught to "love you enemies" "forgive one another" "judge not", and "by their fruits ye shall know them". By those criteria, Evangelical 'Christians' do not qualify. They become the Pharisees of today. Isn't there enough hatred and judgement in the world? Don't we need to have greater love?

    Romney has shown by his life, "good fruits", as Christ said. Faithful marriage, wonderful family, service to his community and in his faith? He has shown none of the boogeymen that are brought up in the anti-Mormon diatribe.

    April 22, 2012 at 9:23 am |
  5. IAmForLiberty

    This Virginian applauds Liberty University's decision. We must defeat President Obama in November if our representative republic is going to have any chance of survival. Count on Mitt Romney to give and inspirational address!

    April 22, 2012 at 8:54 am |
    • Dzerres

      Count on Mitt Romney to give and inspirational address! Ha, ha, ha, ha. Have you actually ever heard Willard speak – dullard is more like it.

      April 22, 2012 at 9:35 am |
    • W.G.

      To iamforliberty – I imagine he´ll really get their attention when he mentions the Mormon belief that Jesus was the brother
      of satan . What do you think ?

      April 22, 2012 at 10:04 am |
  6. Reality

    From the studies of Armstrong, Rushdie, Hirsi Ali, Richardson and Bayhaqi----–

    The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:

    ( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)

    Are you ready?

    Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.

    The First Five of the 77 Branches:

    "1. Belief in Allah"

    aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your self-cleansing neurons.

    "2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."

    Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".

    "3. To believe in the existence of angels."

    A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.

    "4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."

    Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.

    Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.

    Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.

    "5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings
    be upon him) alone."

    Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.

    Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!

    Unfortunately, there are not many Muslim commentators/readers on this blog so the "two-minute" cure is not getting to those who need it. If you have a Muslim friend, send him a copy and help save the world.

    Analogous steps are available at your request for deprogramming the myths of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Paganism..

    April 22, 2012 at 8:33 am |
    • W.G.

      To reality -How about de-programming atheist ? About how much time they take to prove
      that God does not exist . Isn´t that just a little sick ? I mean if there is no God , then Why take all that time
      to prove nothing exist ? Or their other theory that rocks came alive and started mating . Hahaha!

      April 22, 2012 at 10:01 am |
    • Reality

      It is very disturbing that religious narrow- mindedness, intolerance, violence and hatred continues unabated due to randomness of birth. Maybe, just maybe if this fact would be published on the first page of every newspaper every day, that we would finally realize the significant stupidity of all religions.

      April 22, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
  7. Dave

    I have many friends that are not of my faith and I respect their beliefs. Mormons are often asserted to "not be Christian" because they do not believe in the 3rd century concept of the Trinity (which is not in the Bible). Instead, Mormons believe in the Godhead (which is mentioned in the new Testament). There are two reasons why this is powerful teaching to me: 1). Stephen saw Jesus standing on the right hand of God (See Acts 7:56), indicating that God and Jesus are separate beings and 2). Jesus is a resurrected being today (and not just a spirit). While others disagree, I do believe that "This is eternal life, knowing God and Jesus Christ who he has sent.).

    April 22, 2012 at 8:18 am |
    • W.G.

      To dave – Look in Matthew 28:19 Where Jesus says to pray in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit .
      The word trinity is a term to describe the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit . What Stephen saw was Jesus standing
      at the right hand of the Father which proves the trinity . It´s not the Father plus the Son plus the Holy spirit because that
      would equal 3 but rather it´s the Father times the Son times the Holy Spirit and that equals 1. Yousee they´re all one GOD .
      If you weren´t mormon or a jehovas witless you would know these things .

      April 22, 2012 at 9:53 am |
    • Rockgod28

      To: W.G.

      Article of Faith #1 of the Mormon Church.

      Feel free to read the rest. 🙂

      April 22, 2012 at 6:35 pm |
  8. W.G.

    Oh how the mighty FALL ! Politics at Liberty Univ. are more important tham GOD . DeMoss sold out Liberty Univ.
    for 40 pieces of silver and Media exposure for Romney . This is a cheesy way to Get Respectability for Romney !
    What´s next for Liberty Univ. ? 10 best ways to pray to Joseph Smith ? Crash Course in Chrislam ?? The Board
    of Trustees should be ashamed of themselves !! But this just proves how true the Bible is , where it says satan can
    fool even the elect .

    April 22, 2012 at 7:34 am |
    • Tom Baret

      Soooo true. Imagine the only reason Romney is invited is because of political connections to the republican party. How religious and moral. These same supposedly moral clowns would cut taxes on billionaires and pay for it with cuts to social security for the old , sick and disabled.

      April 22, 2012 at 9:59 am |
    • Rockgod28

      To those that call Mormons a cult, liars and display other bigotry:

      You have a rich spiritual heritage of over 182 years. A heritage of those that spoke and acted just like you during the early years of the restoration of the Church of Jesus Christ by Joseph Smith Junior.

      In 1835 Joseph Smith wrote a declaration of belief regarding governments and laws. The purpose of this declaration was so “That our belief with regard to earthly governments and laws in general may not be misinterpreted nor misunderstood, we have thought proper to present, at the close of this volume [of History of the Church], our opinion concerning the same.” (History of the Church, 2:247) It is now Section 134 in the Doctrine and Covenants, canonized scripture of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

      This declaration was adopted by unanimous vote of the general assembly of the Church in Kirtland, Ohio 17th August 1835.
      Three years later in 1838 Governor Boggs issued Missouri Executive Order 44 or Mormon Extermination Order. For nearly 140 years it was legal to kill Mormons in the State of Missouri.

      It was four year after the declaration on government Joseph Smith Jr., an American Citizen, representing the people who were suffering at the hands of mob violence for their beliefs. He met with President Martin Van Buren in November 1839 and worked for two months until February 1840 Joseph Smith was told, “Your cause is just, but I can do nothing for you.”

      It was a bitter lesson in government.

      Joseph returned to help relieve the suffering of the people as best he could against the mobs that attacked the Mormons who called them liars, a cult and did worst in the name of Christianity.

      In 1844 Joseph Smith announced his candidacy for President of the United States. He ran on a platform to stop mob violence, free the slaves without collapsing the Southern economy and expand the borders of the United States by annexing Oregon and further at the consent of Native Americans to include their lands to the western coast.

      The forces of religious bigotry and racial inequality conspired together with the Governor of Illinois to murder Joseph Smith Jr. to stop him from his attempt to win the presidency that election or the next.

      This is your legacy and spiritual heritage to those that call Mormonism a cult, liars and lay the charge of conspiracy upon in your anger and hatred.

      You who call Mormonism a cult and liars associate yourselves with bigots, murderers, and the worst of humanity that call for the extermination of Mormons from American life.

      Over 100 years ago that was attempted and failed. So there is another legacy you get associated with too, failure.

      The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints did not end with Joseph Smith Jr. and will not pass away even if the same extermination orders, mobs and assaults were tried again and again.

      Mitt Romney has years of experience in both business and government. That should be worth listening to.

      You are free to display your bigotry and allegiance to those whose spiritual heritage you inherit by turning your back on Romney.

      April 22, 2012 at 9:59 pm |
  9. Rainer Braendlein

    Once the Jew Jesus met a woman from Samaria at the well of Jacob (John 4). The Jews and the people of Samaria did not like each other, because of their different religions.

    Jesus was very thirsty from a long walk and said to her: "Give me to drink!" The woman refused, because Jesus was a Jew and the ordinary Jews despised the Samaritans (the Samaritans were somewhat supersti-tious).

    Yet the woman made a mistake, because Jesus was not a typical Jew, but a loveable Jew. He responded, he had given her Water of Eternal Life, if she had asked him.

    Jesus did not want to talk with the woman about the conflict of Jewish faith and Samaritan faith, but he showed her that she had a lack of love, which would be the consequence of the true faith.

    We can learn very much from this story.

    All false religions are bigoted. They tend to handicap believers of other religions (see how the woman handicaped Jesus by not giving him water, although he was in need). In contrast, Jesus had been ready to give her not only ordinary water, but living water. Jesus had not considered the religion of the woman, but only her need.

    Hence, if I am a Christian and born by Water and Spirit, I should help people in need independent from their belief. If my Muslim workmate needs an advice, I should give him an advice. If my Hindu neighbour is hungry, I should give him food. If my Mormon classmate is hurted, I should transport him to the hospital.

    The true Christian love is independent from belief, nationality, colour, social status, etc.. True Christian love is not bigoted, but sees the neighbour as a human being with full human dignity, which is loved by God and for which Jesus has died and resurrected or for which God delivered his Son and raised him from the dead.

    Concerning Romney:

    Romney is a Mormon bishop and they are of course bigoted. It is questionable, if Romney becomes president, if he will treat all poeple of America equal. I could imagine that he will prefer the Mormons (I cannot prove that).

    John 4:

    Then cometh he to a city of Samaria, which is called Sychar, near to the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph. 6 Now Jacob's well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied with his journey, sat thus on the well: and it was about the sixth hour. 7 There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink. 8 (For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.) 9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans. 10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water. 11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water? 12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle? 13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again: 14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. 15 The woman saith unto him, Sir, give me this water, that I thirst not, neither come hither to draw. 16 Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither. 17 The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus said unto her, Thou hast well said, I have no husband: 18 For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly. 19 The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet. 20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. 21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. 25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. 26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he. 27 And upon this came his disciples, and marvelled that he talked with the woman: yet no man said, What seekest thou? or, Why talkest thou with her? 28 The woman then left her waterpot, and went her way into the city, and saith to the men, 29 Come, see a man, which told me all things that ever I did: is not this the Christ?

    April 22, 2012 at 7:24 am |
    • Sam LV

      Rainer, you forgot to mention all the humanitarian aid the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has given to people of all religions all over the world. I wouldn't be so quick to say that the religion is "of course bigoted."
      Just because one may believe that there is only one true faith just as Christ taught does not mean that they do not respect those of other faiths.

      April 22, 2012 at 9:43 am |
    • Nii

      Did Christ did teach that there is One True Faith? He didn't! He taught that He was the Way, the Truth and the Light. Bottom line even if u follow His teachings unknowingly u r acceptable to Him. Read Parable of Sheep n Goats n Parable of Good Samaritan. No religion considered.

      April 22, 2012 at 9:59 am |
  10. Steve

    A group of people who believe a far-fetched tale invented by robe wearing sand-dwellers centuries ago shunning someone who was brought up in the "teachings" made up by a more modern story teller. Which story is better? Tough call – both are ludicrous, I could make up a better one that makes more sense than either story.

    April 22, 2012 at 6:51 am |
    • W.G.

      To steve – If you´ve never studied the Bible , then why comment on the Bible ? The Bible and it´s teachings
      are proving truer and truer everyday even historically the Bible proves itself over and over again as to how
      accurate it is . I can understand if you´re muslim or hindu or whatever and not a true Born again Christian
      how a belief in a false religion could turn you off . I rather believe in a GOD a real Living God than a
      whimsical theory about how rocks can just come alive and start reproducing .

      April 22, 2012 at 8:14 am |
  11. Timei Kaitaua

    You all need to grow up, you all like dogs who bark at any stranger approaching a drive way of his master. Without taking a good look at who the stranger was whether is a priest, a good neighbor or a real robber, the dog would bark and charge to bite. The funny thing is that once the stranger stop walking and bend to the ground the dog would as fast as it could run away from the stranger. In short, you don't judge the book by its cover.

    April 22, 2012 at 5:14 am |
    • Nii

      I don't know y Mormons r angry with Xtians for showing them the doctrinal differences b/n them n Xtians(Orthodox, Monophysites, Montanists n Arians). Mormonism is a Gnostic religion rather than a Xtian one. Joseph Smith was fascinated with Gnosticism n restored it. Just google Gnosticism.

      April 22, 2012 at 6:32 am |
    • Nii

      Mormons claim it was Constantine who outlwed Gnosticism. This is just not true. The Early Church from the time of the Apostles fought off pagans who tried to synchretize their religion with Christianity. They did this by defining the Canon of the NT n episcopacy by Apostolic Succession b4 AD200.

      April 22, 2012 at 6:37 am |
    • Nii

      When Constantine came along the Gnostics were finished already. The Church was being persecuted and the Roman Empire was being devastated by the resulting depopulation. However he felt all the Christian Faiths shid agree. Therefore he asked them to meet n deliberate to find pure Xtianity, Orthodox

      April 22, 2012 at 6:47 am |
    • Nii

      I don't have to say someone is Christian when he does not believe as I do or as Jesus taught. That will be wrong. Jesus was a Jew but not a Pharisee, Sadduccee, Herodian, Zealot or Scribe. Does this mean he hated them. Thats stretching it quite a bit, don't you think?

      April 22, 2012 at 6:55 am |
  12. Timei Kaitaua

    You all need to grow up, you all like dogs who bark at any stranger approaching a drive way of his master. Without taking a good look at who the stranger was whether is a priest, a good neighbor or a real a robber, the dog would bark and charge to bite. The funny thing is that once the stranger stop walking and bend to the ground the dog would as fast as it could run away from the stranger. In short, you don't judge the book by its cover.

    April 22, 2012 at 4:45 am |
  13. Mike Bennion

    My Christian faith, as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, teaches me both from the Bible and the Book of Mormon to forgive others their trespasses as God forgives me. These Christ filled scriptures urge me to love my enemies, to bless those who persecute me and pray for those that despitefully use me. My Bible teaches that Jesus forgave the Roman soldiers that drove the nails in his hands and in his feet. The very men who killed him. He said, "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.

    Thus, I find it necessary to forgive those in this comment section who mock things that I hold sacred. I made covenants to serve God and live a moral life as he has given me strength to do. I wear an undergarment that is an inward expression of an outward commitment to love God and live as he asks. Part of that commitment involves not making fun of practices and doctrines that others hold sacred. I also find it in my heart to forgive those who have never asked a Mormon what Mormons believe but rely upon others outside the faith to inform them. I forgive Janet Loeffler, whose comments I have seen elsewhere, which display such a total lack of understanding of what my religion teaches that I must express concern if that is what Liberty University has taught her.

    I find that when I forgive others, my own burdens are easier to bear. So I wish each of you well. May you learn truth before you speak or write. God loves you and I believe it grieves him to see such rancor.

    April 22, 2012 at 3:16 am |
    • W.G.

      Get use to the persecution . Because if you still belive that Jesus is not the Son of God and is God and if
      you are still believing that satan was the brother of Jesus then when you die it´ll be nice that you are use
      to all that persecution , because you are headed to a hot pitfull of persecution .

      April 22, 2012 at 8:25 am |
    • Rockgod28

      To: W.G.

      So I have faith that Jesus is the Son of God, the creator of heaven and earth, my personal savior who sacrificed his life on the cross for my sin to be saved. I keep the commandments of God. I give to the poor, clothe the naked, comfort the widow and follow after Christ as his disciple by loving my enemies, do good to those whoe use me or hurt me I will be condemed by you, judged a nonbeliever to be pursecuted.

      You say pursecution by you and others like you is justified by God.

      If any people can take pursecution it is Mormons. We have proof and historical evidence by people like you who used mob violence, murder and other vile practices to pursecute Mormons.

      In 1838 there as an Extermination Order issued by the state of Missouri that was not removed from the law books of the state until 1976. The US Army invaded Utah in 1857 on false reports of rebellion.

      So bring on your pursecution and your judgements you see fit as a christian to heap upon Latter Day Saints. So let us see what a true christian is by repeating the cruelty and bigotry of those before you.

      I and other Mormons and real Christians of other faiths will do what is in Luke 6:27-37 instead.

      April 22, 2012 at 7:03 pm |
  14. Joe

    Makes me sick to my stomach how many Christian anti mormon bigots there are. We are just as christian as you. Kiss my mormon butt. You can say we are going to hell all you want, but the moment you judge us is the moment you are no better than the people who crucified Jesus. Just cold blooded murderers.

    April 22, 2012 at 2:41 am |
    • Mike Bennion

      Please Joe,

      You are better than this. Don't let anger get in the way of your Christianity. I understand how much you want to strike back. The Savior asks you and me to turn the other cheek. When you pray he will give you grace sufficient to do this.

      April 22, 2012 at 3:19 am |
    • Dave

      It is probably much better that we avoid this tone Joe.

      April 22, 2012 at 8:20 am |
    • Nii

      Why not let Joe b? U've obviously told him that he's a Christian 100% which makes him sad 2 contemplate it may not b true. Don't worry Joe u don't need 2 b Xtian 2 go 2 Heaven. If u can love ur neighbor as urself God 'll have mercy on u whether u r Bhuddhist, Mormon,etc. No posthumous baptism needed

      April 22, 2012 at 9:50 am |
  15. No Preacher

    Jesus loved all of humanity. Read the new testament with an open mind and an open heart.

    April 22, 2012 at 2:04 am |
    • Faith-Isn't-a-Preacher

      True. Too many fail to recognize the two great Commandment.
      Deriding or Taunting someone into a belief is contrary to what the Savior has taught.

      April 22, 2012 at 2:08 am |
  16. Dave

    Dear CNN,

    This article utters lazy journalism at its finest.

    You have based your entire argument over Facebook posts. Really? Really?!? Did it occur to you that the majority of these Facebook comments may have come from individuals who do not attend Liberty University, have never attended Liberty University, or have nothing to do with the University at all? Yet, you still base your entire argument – "Liberty's choice of Romney leads to angry student response", on angry Facebook posts. As you correctly cited, there are almost 85,000 students that attend Liberty University, yet you still make the hasty generalization of an angry student response based on a few hundred disgruntled Facebook users.

    The next time you get the idea to use Facebook as your main source for a news article, contact a select few users who comment on a particular issue, please do us all a favor and cite Wikipedia as well. Your liberal political and religious agenda stink through this article like the dead skunk I passed on my way home tonight.

    Next time, please use a legitimate source for your blog posts. Next time, please but at least half an effort in researching your hasty generalizations. The brand "CNN" represents one of the finest news sources in the entire world. I suggest you treat it as such and think twice before publishing lazy garbage such as this.

    April 22, 2012 at 1:59 am |
    • Dave

      Yes, journalism has sunk to a new low. The reason why the proefssion is dying is because there are no professionals left in the field.

      April 22, 2012 at 8:10 am |
  17. George Washington III

    Obama is an epic failure! BO needs to go! Romney 2012

    April 22, 2012 at 1:43 am |
    • Independant Jack

      Yeah im sure Mr EtchA Sketch with his magic underwear will save you he promises!!!!!~shakes the etch a sketch~ lol probably not.

      April 22, 2012 at 1:50 am |
    • Faith-Isn't-a-Preacher

      Independant Jack – How arrogant! Magic underwear? Like a Magic Cross any other emblem of Faith?
      Fortunately the Mormons aren't sticking the emblem that they wear in our faces as an act of outward expression of supremacy.
      For those that have no concept of what religious emblems do to remind the wearer of their commitment to their faith; for the wearer to actually comprehend the significance of the emblem is magic.
      To what God do you pay homage to with your derision?

      April 22, 2012 at 2:03 am |
  18. MackQuigley

    Next election choice – the Moslem or the Mormon.... both religions founded by polytheistic lunatics who heard voices in their head.

    God is judging American.

    Liberty U shows why no revival is going to happen.

    And without revival, America is doomed.

    April 22, 2012 at 1:34 am |
    • MackQuigley

      should read "polygamous" - although polytheistic is true with Mormons and basically true for Moslems who have deified their "prophet" on a par with their moon god.

      April 22, 2012 at 1:38 am |
    • Andrew

      I'm one of many Liberty students who is excited with Mitt Romney as our GOP candidate. The reporting in this article is very one sided, and definitely not news worthy. ROMNEY 2012!

      April 22, 2012 at 1:39 am |
    • Independant Jack

      LOl you mean a christian and a mormon. The president is a christian contrary to what the tea party makes its followers believe.Im an independant and the quickest way to make me not vote for a party is lies and deception and so far the tea party/gop have been pretty dishonest with all this muslim stuff.We all know the president is a christian and why lie about it lol.Is this to try and take the heat off of Romney because he believes in magic underwear he is not allowed to take off? Or the sisterwives,or kids being forced into pre aranged marriages and molested when they are 12 years old? Yeah I think that may be the case.....

      April 22, 2012 at 1:45 am |
  19. Living Water

    As a Latter-day Saint (Mormon), here are just a few of my favorite scriptures from the Book of Mormon about Jesus Christ.

    "And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins" (2 Nephi 25:26).

    "And moreover, I say unto you, that there shall be no other name given nor any other way nor means whereby salvation can come unto the children of men, only in and through the name of Christ, the Lord Omnipotent" (Mosiah 3:17).

    "Now I say unto you that ye must repent, and be born again; for the Spirit saith if ye are not born again ye cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven; therefore come and be baptized unto repentance, that ye may be washed from your sins, that ye may have faith on the Lamb of God, who taketh away the sins of the world, who is mighty to save and to cleanse from all unrighteousness" (Alma 7:14).

    "Behold, I [Mormon] am a disciple of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. I have been called of him to declare his word among his people, that they might have everlasting life" (3 Nephi 5:13).

    "Behold, I am Jesus Christ, whom the prophets testified shall come into the world. And behold, I am the light and the life of the world; and I have drunk out of that bitter cup which the Father hath given me, and have glorified the Father in taking upon me the sins of the world, in the which I have suffered the will of the Father in all things from the beginning" (3 Nephi 11:10-11).

    April 22, 2012 at 1:15 am |
    • Mark Twain

      All men have heard of the Mormon Bible, but few, except the elect have seen it or at least taken the trouble to read it. I brought away a copy from Salt Lake. The book is a curiosity to me. It is such a pretentious affair and yet so slow, so sleepy, such an insipid mess of inspiration. It is chloroform in print.

      April 22, 2012 at 1:20 am |
    • Faith-Isn't-a-Preacher

      Mark Twain – If you have truly read it, you would know that the book has warnings about the machinations of today. Bush's and Obama's 'New World Order' that promotes Globalization at the peril of the U.S.A. has been warned of. Not by prophesy but a warning about the nature of mankind to build up to themselves power and to gain the servitude of the people.

      April 22, 2012 at 2:20 am |
    • Yes

      Ok I was reading all of these comments from Mormans and keeping open mind till your buddy here mentioned how the book foretells of the Obama future. Whatever. Back to square one. And wasnt it your book that said Jesus was from Missouri or coming back there?

      April 22, 2012 at 7:18 am |
    • Faith-Isn't-a-Preacher

      Yes. Read my post again. It states that it has examples of how mankind goes in cycles of factions building up to themselves power and to gain the servitude of the people. It just so happens that the Bush and Obama 'New World Order' Faction is doing just that through their Globalization Elite.

      April 22, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
  20. hicks

    by hicks I mean the hateful grandma. I'm sure Jesus is proud of your loving ways towards his children

    April 22, 2012 at 1:05 am |
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