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Liberty's choice of Romney leads to angry student response
Students at Liberty University bow in prayer during commencement in 2007. Current students were angered by the choice of Mitt Romney for the 2012 graduation speaker.
April 20th, 2012
06:16 PM ET

Liberty's choice of Romney leads to angry student response

By Laura Bernardini and Dan Merica, CNN

Washington (CNN) – Liberty University students and alumni are accusing the Christian school of violating its own teachings by asking Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints whose adherents are called Mormons, to deliver its 2012 commencement address.

By Friday morning, more than 700 comments had been posted on the school's Facebook page about the Thursday announcement - a majority of them decidedly against the Chancellor Jerry Falwell Jr.’s invitation, citing that the school had taught them Mormonism isn’t part of the Christian faith.

“I can’t support Romney and I am happy I decided not to walk (in the commencement) this year,” wrote student Josh Bergmann. “Liberty University should have gotten a Christian to speak not someone who practices a cult. Shame on you Liberty University.”

Janet Loeffler, a 53-year-old freshman at Liberty, expressed her anger at the decision when contacted by CNN. She also sent a copy of the page of the freshman textbook “The Popular Encyclopedia of Apologetics” which includes the passage, “Mormon doctrine stands in stark contrast to Jewish and Christian monotheism, which teaches that there is only one true God and that every other ‘God’ is a false god.”

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Loeffler’s daughter, Sarah Misch, 33, of Unionville, Virginia, who is also a student at the school said, “I am glad I am not graduating this year. I would not want to end my studies at a Christian university by being sent in to the world at commencement by a Mormon. We came to Liberty because of our faith in Jesus; not for political reasons.”

Holly Stanton Morgan, another student, posted to Facebook, “I am glad that my husband and I won’t be attending his commencement. Mormonism is not Christianity. My commencement is next year. Hopefully they choose more wisely.”

Mark DeMoss, a Liberty graduate, member of the Board of Trustees and a senior adviser to the Romney campaign, said on Friday, “We have had a Jewish commencement speaker, we have had a Catholic commencement speaker, and so, I think people are certainly entitled to their opinion. Social Media certainly provides an outlet for people’s opinions, but I think it is a great thing for the university.”

DeMoss also noted that the night before graduation is the annual Baccalaureate and that event will feature an evangelical Christian speaker.

Liberty University was founded as Lynchburg Baptist College in 1971 by the influential pastor and Moral Majority co-founder Jerry Falwell. He founded the school to be a Christian university for evangelical believers, according to Liberty’s website.

Today, Liberty brands itself as the largest evangelical university in the world, with 82,500 students enrolled either on campus or online.

Liberty University would not comment beyond the press release it sent out Thursday announcing Romney would speak. There will be 14,000 graduates for the May 12th ceremony. The University announced that it expected 34,000 guests.

Previous commencement speakers included previous Republican presidential candidates Sen. John McCain in 2006 and Ronald Reagan in 1980.

The relationship between Mormons and evangelicals has been tested as of late. With Romney as the presumptive nominee for the Republican Party, many political commentators are asking whether the evangelical base, an important voting bloc to the GOP, will come out for Romney.

If those votes hinge on how evangelicals see Mormonism, Romney may need further outreach to the evangelical community. A recent Pew Research Center survey finds that nearly half (47%) of white evangelicals say that Mormonism is not a Christian religion. Sixty-six percent responded the Mormonism and their religion are “very or somewhat different.”

The charge of Mormonism as a cult is not a new one for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Michael Otterson, head of public affairs for the Church, wrote about the word in a 2011 column.

“As part of the rhetorical warfare that has come to characterize modern American political discourse, it was only a matter of time before someone once again used the term “cult” to describe The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” Otterson wrote. He went on to describe the word as a, “a neat, shorthand and rather lazy way of putting a whole group into a box.”

The nation’s largest evangelical denomination, the Southern Baptist Conference, lists the LDS Church as a cult. They specifically cite differences in theology surrounding salvation, baptism, belief in the Trinity, and marriage. A major sticking point between other Christian traditions and Mormons is the Book of Mormon, which Mormons believe is divinely inspired scripture and on par with the Bible. Other Christians do not recognize the Book of Mormon as scripture.

CNN reached out to a LDS church spokesman for further comment but they demurred, stating that the story was a political story.

A Romney spokesman did not respond to questions about the issue.

Not all Facebook comments were negative, though. Tom Johnson added, “Mitt Romney has been invited to give a motivational speech, not a religious sermon. His religious beliefs do not have anything to do with his ability to give a motivational speech at commencement.”

And Kathy Creech added, “I, for one, am pleased that the future President of the United States will be speaking there!”


soundoff (1,597 Responses)
  1. biologixco

    ***BREAKING NEWS!***
    Willard (MITT) Romney has made his choice for VP running mate.
    Drum roll please....
    And the winner is: WARREN JEFFS!
    Romney/Jeffs2012!
    10 wives and a chicken in every pot

    April 22, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
  2. Beth

    I don't see the story here. This same theme plays out every day in every setting. What amazes me is that people who want to generalize a groups beliefe has a hard time understanding the divversity of thiniign within a group. Makes it tough to hold true to ones generalized opinions of others if you accept such diversity. I don;t see the where this story offers anything outside the scope of daily living other than our group desire and joy at it being a particular group. Other than that, we each are involved in similar behaviors within our own groups daily- that is, if we have a diverse and free thinking group.

    April 22, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
    • ?

      I see the Mormon war room has fired up for the day. How's the weather in Salt Lake City? And will someone explain the 55 wives of Brigham Young? I can't wait to hear Romney try to explain some of these pesky Mormon facts! Comedy gold!

      April 22, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
    • Bet

      ?: LOL....Oh, you are brave. Especially since I am the only one that knows the TRUTH about me. Don't be so willing to spill your ignorance. Hahahaha...thanks for the laugh.

      April 22, 2012 at 12:38 pm |
    • W.G.

      To beth – well you should read your Bible a little more carefully , er ... I mean a Christian Bible that mormons have´nt changed .
      Read where the Apostles talk about false teachers and where Paul says beware of people comming and teaching a different
      Jesus than the one we teach . This is what mormans and jehovas witnesses and 7th day adventist and people in
      cults do they preach another Jesus than the Original They´ve taken the Word of GOD and Changed it . Mormons
      are not Christians To be a Christian you have to believe that Jesus is GOD . Do you ? if not you are not a
      Christian .

      April 22, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
    • otto

      WG,

      No True Scotsman Fallacy,

      Alice: All Scotsmen enjoy haggis.
      Bob: My uncle is a Scotsman, and he doesn't like haggis!
      Alice: Well, all true Scotsmen like haggis.

      Christianity history is full of christians who do not agree with you and would say you are not christian, and there are bible passages that would support them and you. There are 25,000 different versions of christianity, they can't all be right, but they can all be wrong.

      April 22, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
    • Tyler

      to ?

      if you'd like an explanation of brigham young's 55 wives, look no further than the bible where it was common to have several wives, concubines, mistresses, or girlfriends. If you don't accept the bible, then of course you won't accept the teachings found within the mormon church.

      April 22, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
    • Tyler

      oh and nowhere in the bible does it say that you have to believe in the post-christ traditions set forth by Romans that you have to believe christ was GOd to be considered christian. I'm pretty sure it just says to believe on his name. Mormons believe in christ, that's why it's called the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Not just Catholics or Evangelicals, or Lutherans, or Calvinists, or Methodists, or Baptists, but actually THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST. if southern baptists want to set up their own rules and definitions of what makes a person a christian, that's ok with us...it's just like when the south still taught that the civil war was going on, or that the south won it. Silly southerners who think they know better than reason and truth.

      April 22, 2012 at 3:40 pm |
    • Rockgod28

      To: W.G.

      Please read on Mormon teaching about Jesus Christ is God.
      Alma chapter 11 verse 38 through 40.

      Enjoy. 🙂

      April 22, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  3. William

    We are all RIGHT. How many posts here exclaim being wrong in their thinking and the correctness in anothers? LOL. We are all the same – believers or not in how we act and the basis of what we truly we believe- I am right...you are wrong. 🙂

    April 22, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
    • ?

      55 wives. comedy gold

      April 22, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
    • William

      to ?: 55 wives? LOL That's nothing. If 55 consenting adults wish to commune within a contract- big deal. We saw communes and alternative living styles experiemnted in the sixties. For those who either do or do not believe in evolution- live long enough and you will see things that are today imagineable. And yes, that does prove my point- I am right, you are wrong and that is what we all believe -unless of course I am wrong becasue you think what you believe is wrong.

      April 22, 2012 at 12:31 pm |
    • ?

      55 wives is nothing??? You're defending it?? Oh, baby. Just keep talking. You can do more harm than I ever could!!!

      April 22, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
    • William

      ?: Hey...110...that might be pushing things? Then again, technology may find a way? There are already wonderful drugs on the market. 🙂

      April 22, 2012 at 12:48 pm |
  4. david m

    A LIBERTY University student calls somebody else a cult member?

    This is dripping with irony.

    April 22, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
    • W.G.

      To David M – Only if you´ve never studied the Bible .

      April 22, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Says W, who is sure to be able to tell us how Christianity is no mere cult, unlike all other religions.

      April 22, 2012 at 1:53 pm |
  5. Tyler

    Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints are more christian than any baptist or evangelical. I'll state one simply reason among thousands: they accept everyone, just as Christ would. It behooves me that one sect of religion such as the baptists have a say as to which religions are christian and which ones are not. I think that judgement is up for God to decide who is following his commandments, not some holy rollers in the South. If any baptist actually met with a mormon and took off their veil of ignorance of mormon myths and fables and actually listened to what a mormon believes, that person would ultimately understand that both religions worship God, believe in the Savior Jesus Christ, and understand that the only way for anyone to make it back to God is through the Atonement of Jesus Christ. Ignorance will always prevail with liberal media. It's time for all christians (catholics, baptists, evangelicals, and mormons alike) to be above this type of dirty, foul, and intolerable headlines about one's faith. As to the students at Liberty...well you're just acting out like children who didn't get their favorite toy in the sandbox. As one put it, "Mitt wasn't there to deliver a sermon", but rather to congratulate you and motivate and inspire you in your ambitions and futures. Too bad you acted selfish and decided not to listen to one of world's most honest, religious, and successful men this nation will ever elect to the White House.

    April 22, 2012 at 12:15 pm |
    • W.G.

      To tyler – To be a Christian you have to believe that our Lord Jesus died for our sins . The Bible ( the real one
      not the one you have that´s been changed by mormons ) says that Jesus was fully man and fully GOD He had
      2 natures . A normal man could not die for our sins or forgive sins . Mormons do not believe Jesus was GOD .
      Mormons like jehovas witnesses belive that Jesus was an angel . But Jesus never said he was an angel
      He said he was I AM . no angel could ever say that . Also please show me in the Bible where it says that
      Jesus ´s brother was satan , this is a common mormon belief . Mormons have never been tolerant of
      people of color . in your own books and publishings you´ve called blacks and non-whites sub humans
      GOD turned Moses´s sister-in-Law into a leperd for those kind of beliefs .

      April 22, 2012 at 2:03 pm |
    • Tyler

      WOW! WG has certainly done his bit of homework on mormons by looking up some off-site wikipedia or google webpage. Sounds like you hit it right on the nail when you said that mormons believe jesus was an angel. That's just a bunch of boloney that neither christ himself nor LDS members would stand for. That's repulsive to think that we don't believe jesus, the son of god, died for us on the cross.

      If you really want to do some homework, go to the source itself (www.lds.org or http://www.mormon.org) i'll revoke my true belief if you can find anywhere in any of our books or websites that we say christ is an angel. It simply isn't there and you, silly boy, are just misinformed. I would love to hear your sources of such fables.

      April 22, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
    • Rockgod28

      To: W.G.

      Please read from the Book of Mormon the teaching that Jesus is GOD.
      Alma chapter 11 verse 38 through 40. Feel free to read more about how Jesus is God in that chapter.

      Enjoy. 🙂

      April 22, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
  6. ?

    Silly Mormons. Boy, you just don't want to tackle that 55 wives of Brigham Young, do you? Or the fact that Joey Smith was jailed for fraud on numerous occasions? Not jailed for his religious beliefs, but for claiming to have magic stones that located buried treasure! Joey Smith was a flim flam man who tried a variety of money making schemes until one finally paid off. Who knew it would be a phony religion!! And you wonder why we don't think you're Christians. It just keeps getting funnier and funnier!!

    April 22, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
    • Tyler

      he was hauled off to jail on ridiculous charges and simply for being mormon, nothing else. sounds like a bunch of intolerant people still exist today just as they did 200 years ago.

      April 22, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
    • Rockgod28

      To those that call Mormons a cult, liars and display other bigotry:

      You have a rich spiritual heritage of over 182 years. A heritage of those that spoke and acted just like you during the early years of the restoration of the Church of Jesus Christ by Joseph Smith Junior.

      In 1835 Joseph Smith wrote a declaration of belief regarding governments and laws. The purpose of this declaration was so “That our belief with regard to earthly governments and laws in general may not be misinterpreted nor misunderstood, we have thought proper to present, at the close of this volume [of History of the Church], our opinion concerning the same.” (History of the Church, 2:247) It is now Section 134 in the Doctrine and Covenants, canonized scripture of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

      This declaration was adopted by unanimous vote of the general assembly of the Church in Kirtland, Ohio 17th August 1835.
      Three years later in 1838 Governor Boggs issued Missouri Executive Order 44 or Mormon Extermination Order. For nearly 140 years it was legal to kill Mormons in the State of Missouri.

      It was four year after the declaration on government Joseph Smith Jr., an American Citizen, representing the people who were suffering at the hands of mob violence for their beliefs. He met with President Martin Van Buren in November 1839 and worked for two months until February 1840 Joseph Smith was told, “Your cause is just, but I can do nothing for you.”

      It was a bitter lesson in government.

      Joseph returned to help relieve the suffering of the people as best he could against the mobs that attacked the Mormons who called them liars, a cult and did worst in intolerance to religious belief.

      In 1844 Joseph Smith announced his candidacy for President of the United States. He ran on a platform to stop mob violence, free the slaves without collapsing the Southern economy and expand the borders of the United States by annexing Oregon and further at the consent of Native Americans to include their lands to the western coast.

      The forces of religious bigotry and racial inequality conspired together with the Governor of Illinois to murder Joseph Smith Jr. to stop him from his attempt to win the presidency that election or the next.

      This is your legacy and spiritual heritage to those that call Mormonism a cult, liars and lay the charge of conspiracy upon in your anger and attacks on the faithful.

      You who call Mormonism a cult and liars associate yourselves with bigots, murderers, and the worst of humanity that call for the extermination of Mormons from American life.

      Over 100 years ago that was attempted and failed. So there is another legacy you get associated with too, failure.

      The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints did not end with Joseph Smith Jr. and will not pass away even if the same extermination orders, mobs and assaults were tried again and again.

      April 22, 2012 at 10:53 pm |
  7. ND

    Does anyone know where the term “Mormon” comes from? It was actually a derogatory term for members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints created by…. wait for it.. you guess it! Evangelicals! The same way Evangelicals have often coined phrases or words to hurt or diminish others. Just look at the Jim Crow South. I’m not surprised at all that the sons and daughters of the Lynch Mob are upset that Romney has been invited to speak. I’d actually be more surprised if they acted in the way that their “Christ” would.

    April 22, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
    • Nii

      You mean Fundamentalist Literalists Evangelicals who only started in 1950s or Pietist Evangelicals or Armenian Evangelicals. Mormon is not a derogatory term. It denotes them as people who follow the Book of Mormon. It doesn't kill to learn more does it? Christian means junior Christ ie derogatory.

      April 22, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
    • ND

      “Christian” comes from the Latin christianus and the Greek christianos. It’s first known use was sometime after 1526. So let’s think about this, One-thousand and five hundred years after Christ lived on the earth, the term Christian began to be used. That’s well after the Apostles and Prophets and Revelations and the Ministering of Angels had either stopped or people just stopped reporting it. And now you’re telling me that this word has all of these meanings that basically denote that unless one is a member of a Protestant or Catholic denomination they cannot call themselves Christian. I think words are symbols and they change. Do Mormons believe in Christ and practice his teaching? Yes. Does that make them Christian? I would say Yes. If so say No, it steel won’t change the fact that Mormons believe in Christ and practice his teachings.

      April 22, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
  8. ND

    This is hilarious! Evangelicals upset once again because Mormons consider themselves Christian. But here’s the truth: According to Webster Dictionary, A Christian is “one who professes a belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ”. So obviously members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints would consider themselves Christians. Now, if you ask a Mormon is they are Protestant or Evangelical they will very quickly tell you “No”.

    April 22, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
    • Nii

      Atheist-dictionary definition. Someone who doesn't believe in God. Deists, Agnostics, Secularists, Secular Humanists, Ignostics and Irreligious will tell u plainly that they don't believe in God but are not Atheists.
      Dictionaries are for grade school children. Encyclopaedia, Google, Wikipedia.

      April 22, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
    • ND

      That’s even more hilarious! You had to use the Atheist Dictionary to prove your point. It’s so funny how evangelicals put limitations on God, what he can and can’t do and who he loves & hates.

      April 22, 2012 at 12:15 pm |
    • Nii

      ND
      Atheist Dictionary? I am a Minister I study religion. I am not even an Evangelical but a Messianic Jew. I don't limit what God can do. I reverence Him by using all He has given me to praise His Name including my intellect. I don't just go to a dictionary. There are more books that we can read.

      April 22, 2012 at 12:24 pm |
    • Tyler

      Nii,
      doesn't sound like you study enough of your chosen field. Have you ever cracked open a bible, a book or mormon, or a qu'ran? I'm guessing you haven't since none of your arguments can be found in religious books, but only in false beliefs put out after christ was crucified.

      April 22, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
  9. slick

    Lol, so many generalizations and so much love here! How about saying that Mormons differ from 'Christians' in the sense that they don't believe their sacrament is literally drinking Christ's blood or eating his body? They don't believe in the standard Trinity – a concept no one in their right mind can either comprehend or explain. Sure, they practiced polygamy – go read the Bible then throw that away because of the polygamists in it. And as far as Mormons believing Joseph Smith was a prophet, that's a leg up they have on anyone aside from Catholics – Catholics believe they have the priesthood handed down from Peter, but the rest of 'Christianity' is a spin-off of the Catholics, and must be man-made spin-offs as talking about someone having communication with the divine (like Joseph Smith) is so absurd! Lol, the hypocrisy on these boards just makes me laugh, peons regurgitating what their paid clergy tells them with no brain themselves...

    April 22, 2012 at 11:42 am |
    • Clay

      Nice try at covering up for the LDS but I have talked to your missionaries myself. And LDS does not believe Jesus is God in the flesh, that is what separates them from all of Christianity, not minor points you talk about.

      April 22, 2012 at 11:54 am |
    • slick

      No covering up at all – so Jesus prayed to himself while on the cross? Interesting...

      April 22, 2012 at 11:55 am |
    • Nii

      SLICK
      Thanks for that able defense of Mormonism. I'm one of those unpaid Ministers who swindle the pawns(not peons). Sad that you think you cannot understand Christianity. THE STANDARD TRINITY is not even required to be Christian. Copts and Jacobites don't believe it. Talk about generalizations! Hah

      April 22, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
    • otto

      Any religion is absurd and it is hillarious listening to believers claim theirs is less absurd. Voo Doo is Voo Doo, arguing that your voo doo makes more sense is really irrational.

      April 22, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
    • otto

      Nii,

      There is no one belief that all christians agree on, and no reason any of it should be believed.

      April 22, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
    • slick

      NII (you like all caps for some reason...),
      You are one of those unpaid ministers? May God, or three gods – whatever – help you!

      April 22, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
    • Tyler

      Can i just said to Nii...i hope you're commenting on all this stuff from church. It's sunday boy and you're supposed to be rolling and singing in your congregation today not bad-mouthing other christians. all mormon doctrine (the gospel of christ) falls right in line with all teaching taught in the bible, old and new. As for christ and god being one...well that's just something the catholics made up somewhere along the way. there are too many scriptures that refute the idea that god and jesus are literally the same being.

      April 22, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
  10. ?

    Would Jerry Falwell speak at Brigham Young University? Do you realize that Brigham Young, one of the founders of the Mormon church, had 55 wives? That he wound up divorcing many of them? Do you know why the Mormons finally abandoned polygamy? Do some homework.

    April 22, 2012 at 11:26 am |
    • Michael

      If he were willing, he'd be welcome. BYU even has at least one Souther Baptist professor: http://universe.byu.edu/index.php/2011/09/26/southern-baptist-professor-finds-mission-at-byu/

      I'm not a fan of much of what Liberty University teaches, but I applaud their willingness to set aside religious differences for a moment, even if it's essentially political. Anger, vitriol and accusation will do nothing toward solving the country's political problems, nor will it bring anyone closer to Jesus.

      April 22, 2012 at 11:45 am |
    • Mary

      Yes, Jerry Falwell would be invited to speak at BYU. I've seen all types of religions represented in an opportunity to speak at BYU. The most fascinating was a man (can't remember his name) from the Muslim faith. It was insightful and helpful to learn first hand about his beliefs and to rid myself of any preconceived notions about the Muslim Faith. Did I want to change my religious affiliation afterward - No!!! It was an opportunity to learn.

      April 22, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
    • Tyler

      as someone who attends BYU, i can soundly say that BYU has already hosted hundreds of prominent and religious people, be it jewish (like old VP candidate Joe Liebermann who came last year) or a muslim who visited a few months back, or other christian leaders. So YES, BYU would accept any person of faith to come speak at their weekly devotionals aimed at spreading tolerance, uplifting righteousness, and promoting peace between all religions.

      April 22, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
  11. Joe M.

    Amazing how a student who exemplifies "group-think" by refusing to walk in commencement and urging others to walk in commencement is accusing someone else of practicing a cult.

    April 22, 2012 at 10:58 am |
    • Clay

      Making a decision to not go to one's one graduation ceremony is not equivalent to group think or a cult. Not going to one's one graduation would be going against the flow. Forget the use of the word cult, it has many definitions. LDS is not Christian, they deny who Jesus is: He is God in the flesh.

      April 22, 2012 at 11:57 am |
  12. hammer

    All churches has their good and their bad.The problem is when a church thanks they are the only one who is right.They interrupted the bible the way they want it to mean.Where is Santa Clause in the bible or a stupid rabbit hidden eggs.So many people want to point out others when they need to look at their on.The picture of a long hair hippie pretty boy that some people have hanging on their wall is not my Lord.

    April 22, 2012 at 10:52 am |
    • hammer

      Baptist think they have the power to send you to HELL.You are going to burn in HELL if you don't believe like I do! The powerful Baptist.

      April 22, 2012 at 11:11 am |
    • Nii

      HAMMER
      Thankfully the Christian Bible is not a Baptist book. Neither are they among the Top 5 Xtian Communions. Christ only requires that we love our neighbor as ourselves for Him to show us mercy. Religion and posthumous baptism are not required. You can go all the way with us or keep your religion

      April 22, 2012 at 11:32 am |
  13. Nii

    When Mormons try to dilute their doctrines and accuse them like gay rights activists of hatred when they clarify their beliefs. Most won't mind Romney speaking but when they are told to listen to a "fellow Christian" is that fair? Khameini won't do it. Nor will the Dalai Lama. Respect is the issue.

    April 22, 2012 at 10:39 am |
  14. Nii

    I don't know why but these self-styled "Christians" called Mormons seem so intent on gaining a following, forgetting that the anti-Gnostic controls are built into the Bible itself. So they can build Temples in every village but unfortunately their converts eventually burn out n leave.

    April 22, 2012 at 10:34 am |
    • bassiley

      "...their converts eventually burn out and leave. "

      See this article from CBN.com regarding Mormon statistics from U.S. News and World Report:

      http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/ChurchAndMinistry/Evangelism/Mormons_Are_Fastest_Growing_Religion.aspx

      April 22, 2012 at 11:32 am |
    • Nii

      BASSILEY
      Of course they need to be the fastest growing religion. Islam claims that too and Jehovah Witnesses too. Now who am I to believe? The burn-out rate is there. If you like you can Google "spiritual abuse". Now there is data for you. Besides doesn't those Mormons include Anne Frank now?

      April 22, 2012 at 11:40 am |
    • Nii

      The word Mormon is not in the Bible but that has not stopped you has it. A guinea fowl used to be called a turkey. Has it become any different since the name change. TRINITY is like Big Bang or relativity. It was there but it was defined later as such. It is not a car which was invented. w We Google

      April 22, 2012 at 11:47 am |
    • Nii

      OTTO
      Christianity has four branches but one is extinct. All four agree on the NT Canon as completing Scripture. We do agree on certain things. We do not call Muslims, Mormons and Jews non-Christians for fun. They cannot be named heretics even. They are independent revelations to their people.

      April 22, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
  15. Rocco

    So when do Liberty students start acting like Christians?

    April 22, 2012 at 10:29 am |
    • Clay

      You mean when do they deny their own faith to embrace another so they can practice their own faith? I think you are a little mixed up. I know that's not what you're saying, but it is wrong to have someone who denies what you believe to speak at your one and only graduation from college. And saying so isn't anti-Christian.

      April 22, 2012 at 12:03 pm |
    • Anne

      Clay...
      We can come to understand each other better.. by listening. This doesn't mean you will accept the other viewpoint. BYU regularly invites great men and women of other faiths to speak, and they are received respectfully and warmly by the student body. Christ would teach us to reach out to each other. I am not sure where evangelicals got the idea that it is a righteous act to persecute and belittle another religion.

      April 24, 2012 at 11:17 pm |
  16. Nii

    Whenever confronted Mormons charge Christians with bigotry for pointing out differences. Ok you can attend all the Christian churches do u see a secret Temple anywhere? As a Christian I won't be allowed into your Temple cos I'm part of the " general public". I can however join Jews at a synagogue.

    April 22, 2012 at 10:27 am |
    • Rockgod28

      No you don't see a Temple, even though Jesus attended the Temple in Jerusalem.

      Anyone can enter a Mormon Church. No one is turned away. Temples are exactly that a Temple. Mormons have open houses before dedication of Temples and there is one in Kansas City right now if you want to take a look inside.

      April 22, 2012 at 11:03 am |
    • Nii

      ROCKGOD
      All Christian and Jewish Temples and Synagogues and Churches are open to me. Can you then explain to me like I am five years old why yours is off limits to me?

      April 22, 2012 at 11:27 am |
    • Rockgod28

      To Nii

      All Churches of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are open to everyone. You are welcome to worship side by side with Latter Day Saints as they remember Jesus Christ's sacrifice and atonement. We then promise to keep his commandments which is all God asks in return.

      The Temples as it says on the outside are the House of the Lord and Holiness to the Lord.

      Here is where we receive a fullness of joy, endowed with power from on high and sealed together as families under the everlasting covenant of by the power of Jesus Christ through his holy priesthood.

      In the Temple is a sacred place where people who live according to the gospel of Jesus Christ, received the ordinances of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost as well as being worthy to enter the Temple.

      What is it like in the Temples of God in these latter days? Revelation 7:13-17.

      It is fulfillment of prophecy and the words of the Bible. There is no secret. It is all in the Bible what happens in the Temple. It is all there, but a person who is not living the gospel of Jesus Christ, living worthy by keeping the commandments of God, growing in the ordinances of the Church like the sacrament to keep their covenants will not understand what is happening in the Temple(s) of God without the gift of the Holy Ghost.

      In the House of the Lord we learn that families do no end with death and can be sealed by the power of God together to turn the hearts of the children to the fathers and the fathers to the children.

      In the House of the Lord, the Temple of God, the worthy members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints obey the commandments of God and are able to the work of God, feeding the poor, clothing the naked, comforting the afflicted, healing the sick, visiting the widow, caring for the fatherless all with His power upon us night and day.

      We are obedient to the commandment of Jesus Christ to "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father in Heaven is perfect"

      How can we do that without divine authority and divine power from Jesus Christ? How can we do as Jesus said to love our enemies, bless them that curse us, do good to them that hate us, and pray for them which despitefully use us, and persecute us without the help of God?

      That is the purpose of the Temple, to give us power to do the work of the Lord. Matthew 25:34-36

      April 22, 2012 at 10:40 pm |
  17. Yamo

    Genesis 1.2 Jabba kabba Lou pou gou. Goo loou poo loo foo loo. Bool sheeeetu bigol tieeem.

    April 22, 2012 at 10:23 am |
  18. W.G.

    Oh how the Mighty fall ! Politics at Liberty Univ. are more important than GOD . DeMoss sold out Liberty U. for
    forty peices of silver and media exposure for Romney . This is a cheesy way to get respectability for Romney .
    What´s next for Liberty Univ. ? Teaching the Mormon belief that Jesus ´s brother was satan ??
    A crash course in Chrislam ??? The Bible mentions about how satan can fool even the Elect . How true .

    April 22, 2012 at 10:20 am |
    • Anne

      Just stay in your bubble then...

      April 24, 2012 at 11:18 pm |
  19. Nii

    Mormons should understand that Christians don't call themselves Jews for a reason. Nor do Muslims call themselves Christians. We respect each other. For a Mormon to call his religion Christianity and then push a different belief system is plain disrespectful. Maybe u've been taught but u can Google

    April 22, 2012 at 10:15 am |
    • Nii

      Protestants and Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic are Orthodox Christians. Copts are Monophysites. Jacobites are Montanists. Arians are extinct. However these Christian faiths all use the same Bible. Mormons don't use this so why do they say they are Christians if not to confuse non-Xtians.

      April 22, 2012 at 10:21 am |
    • W

      You can google, huh? That sounds like a reliable source, because Google is the true god of the 21st century, right? Sorry, just trying to lighten things up with a little humor there. Anyway, if you want to know what The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints really believes, go to the source. Find an active, practicing member, and ask him or her. Don't trust the internet for everything. Just a thought.

      April 22, 2012 at 10:54 am |
    • Rockgod28

      The word Trinity is NOT in the Bible.

      April 22, 2012 at 11:05 am |
    • Nii

      Google is an educational tool that enables me to check information and how accurate it is. Wikipedia n others help too. As a Xtian I look out for information to help me understand my faith from all sources. If I listen to my pastor or bishop only I give him the power God alone shud have in my life.

      April 22, 2012 at 11:51 am |
  20. Nii

    Trinity is a concept Moses introduced in Genesis 1:1. God there is the compound Elohim (God)rather than the singular Eli(God). Hebrew uses the singular eli(god) and plural elohim(gods) but for de pagan gods. He went on to show God's manifestations. God can like water manifest in 3 ways at one place.

    April 22, 2012 at 10:09 am |
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