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Liberty's choice of Romney leads to angry student response
Students at Liberty University bow in prayer during commencement in 2007. Current students were angered by the choice of Mitt Romney for the 2012 graduation speaker.
April 20th, 2012
06:16 PM ET

Liberty's choice of Romney leads to angry student response

By Laura Bernardini and Dan Merica, CNN

Washington (CNN) – Liberty University students and alumni are accusing the Christian school of violating its own teachings by asking Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints whose adherents are called Mormons, to deliver its 2012 commencement address.

By Friday morning, more than 700 comments had been posted on the school's Facebook page about the Thursday announcement - a majority of them decidedly against the Chancellor Jerry Falwell Jr.’s invitation, citing that the school had taught them Mormonism isn’t part of the Christian faith.

“I can’t support Romney and I am happy I decided not to walk (in the commencement) this year,” wrote student Josh Bergmann. “Liberty University should have gotten a Christian to speak not someone who practices a cult. Shame on you Liberty University.”

Janet Loeffler, a 53-year-old freshman at Liberty, expressed her anger at the decision when contacted by CNN. She also sent a copy of the page of the freshman textbook “The Popular Encyclopedia of Apologetics” which includes the passage, “Mormon doctrine stands in stark contrast to Jewish and Christian monotheism, which teaches that there is only one true God and that every other ‘God’ is a false god.”

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Loeffler’s daughter, Sarah Misch, 33, of Unionville, Virginia, who is also a student at the school said, “I am glad I am not graduating this year. I would not want to end my studies at a Christian university by being sent in to the world at commencement by a Mormon. We came to Liberty because of our faith in Jesus; not for political reasons.”

Holly Stanton Morgan, another student, posted to Facebook, “I am glad that my husband and I won’t be attending his commencement. Mormonism is not Christianity. My commencement is next year. Hopefully they choose more wisely.”

Mark DeMoss, a Liberty graduate, member of the Board of Trustees and a senior adviser to the Romney campaign, said on Friday, “We have had a Jewish commencement speaker, we have had a Catholic commencement speaker, and so, I think people are certainly entitled to their opinion. Social Media certainly provides an outlet for people’s opinions, but I think it is a great thing for the university.”

DeMoss also noted that the night before graduation is the annual Baccalaureate and that event will feature an evangelical Christian speaker.

Liberty University was founded as Lynchburg Baptist College in 1971 by the influential pastor and Moral Majority co-founder Jerry Falwell. He founded the school to be a Christian university for evangelical believers, according to Liberty’s website.

Today, Liberty brands itself as the largest evangelical university in the world, with 82,500 students enrolled either on campus or online.

Liberty University would not comment beyond the press release it sent out Thursday announcing Romney would speak. There will be 14,000 graduates for the May 12th ceremony. The University announced that it expected 34,000 guests.

Previous commencement speakers included previous Republican presidential candidates Sen. John McCain in 2006 and Ronald Reagan in 1980.

The relationship between Mormons and evangelicals has been tested as of late. With Romney as the presumptive nominee for the Republican Party, many political commentators are asking whether the evangelical base, an important voting bloc to the GOP, will come out for Romney.

If those votes hinge on how evangelicals see Mormonism, Romney may need further outreach to the evangelical community. A recent Pew Research Center survey finds that nearly half (47%) of white evangelicals say that Mormonism is not a Christian religion. Sixty-six percent responded the Mormonism and their religion are “very or somewhat different.”

The charge of Mormonism as a cult is not a new one for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Michael Otterson, head of public affairs for the Church, wrote about the word in a 2011 column.

“As part of the rhetorical warfare that has come to characterize modern American political discourse, it was only a matter of time before someone once again used the term “cult” to describe The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” Otterson wrote. He went on to describe the word as a, “a neat, shorthand and rather lazy way of putting a whole group into a box.”

The nation’s largest evangelical denomination, the Southern Baptist Conference, lists the LDS Church as a cult. They specifically cite differences in theology surrounding salvation, baptism, belief in the Trinity, and marriage. A major sticking point between other Christian traditions and Mormons is the Book of Mormon, which Mormons believe is divinely inspired scripture and on par with the Bible. Other Christians do not recognize the Book of Mormon as scripture.

CNN reached out to a LDS church spokesman for further comment but they demurred, stating that the story was a political story.

A Romney spokesman did not respond to questions about the issue.

Not all Facebook comments were negative, though. Tom Johnson added, “Mitt Romney has been invited to give a motivational speech, not a religious sermon. His religious beliefs do not have anything to do with his ability to give a motivational speech at commencement.”

And Kathy Creech added, “I, for one, am pleased that the future President of the United States will be speaking there!”


soundoff (1,597 Responses)
  1. bigal

    It is very interesting." Christians" believe that "GOD NO LONGER SPEAKS TO MAN". The question is, HOW DO THEY KNOW THAT THEY ARE CORRECT? IF THE BIBLE IS THE ANSWER WHY ARE THERE HUNDREDS OF DIFFERENT
    CHURCHES AND THOUSANDS OF BOOKS EXPLAINING THEIR DOCTRINE?
    THEY ONLY BELIEVE ONE BOOK, THE BIBLE.. THE DOUAY VERSION, (CATHOLIC) HAS SEVERAL BOOKS NOT APROVED BY CHRISTIANS, AND THE NICEAN CREED IS ACCEPTED??????????

    April 22, 2012 at 7:39 pm |
    • mandarax

      Ask your doctor about thorazine.

      April 22, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
    • GetReal

      I thought that God told Michelle Bachmann to run for President and that Santorum was chosen to be President, just before God told him to forget it.

      April 22, 2012 at 8:05 pm |
  2. David Diaz

    The liberal media making up a mountain out of mole hill.
    .

    In 2010, a well-known Mormon, Glenn Beck, was the
    commencement speaker. Most students cheered when
    Beck spoke.
    .

    This is a non-story.
    .

    http://www.liberty.edu/index.cfm?PID=18495&MID=17949

    April 22, 2012 at 7:06 pm |
    • mandarax

      The real story – the horror story – is that "most students cheered" for Glenn Beck.

      April 22, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
    • GetReal

      OMG, Beck is a Mormon? Well, that explains a lot. I thought he was just a misguided fool.

      April 22, 2012 at 8:08 pm |
    • Bobby

      Beck wasn't running for president, he was just bulldogging the same people they all hate at Liberty.

      April 22, 2012 at 11:46 pm |
  3. Jenny

    Mormons believe that we are all the "spirit" children of God and his heavenly wife (that we have a goddess for a mother in heaven). They also believe that it was not the Holy Ghost that filled Mary, the mother of Jesus with child, but that God himself had real "relations" with Mary. That means that God had s*x with his own "spirit" daughter. That's incest isn't it?

    April 22, 2012 at 6:44 pm |
    • TR6

      “That's incest isn't it?”

      But the Christian bible is all for incest. How do you think Adam and Eve managed to populate the word? How do you think Noah and his family repopulated the world. And there’s my favorite bible story of what Lot and his daughters get up to after the destruction of Sodom and Gamora

      April 22, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
    • Bobby

      They also believe that God was once just a man, and that people can become gods.

      April 22, 2012 at 11:49 pm |
  4. Austin McNair

    This article represents the very small amount of students. I am graduating this semester from LU and could not care less that Mitt Romney is a Mormon. He is a man of great influence who could become the next president of the United States. Most students are excited that he is our speaker. Please do not exaggerate!

    April 22, 2012 at 6:44 pm |
  5. mandarax

    Maybe students who demand rational and logical decisions shouldn't attend an evangelical Christian "university" in the first place.

    April 22, 2012 at 6:43 pm |
  6. Dandini

    If it walks like a Christian, and talks like a Christian...

    National Study of Youth and Religion, 2005, UNC, Chapel Hill (U.S. Adolescents Ages 13-17) - The Study found that Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) youth were more likely to exhibit Christian characteristics than Evangelicals (the next most observant group)

    A national 2010 Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life survey aimed to test a broad range of religious knowledge, including understanding of the Bible, core teachings of different faiths and major figures in religious history: on questions about Christianity and the Bible, Mormons scored the highest. They also scored second only to Jews in knowledge of Judaism. [Overall, Mormons understand their own doctrines and the Bible better than other Christian denominations.]

    2012, the Pew Research Center's Forum on Religion & Public Life, "Mormons exhibit higher levels of religious commitment than many other religious groups, including white evangelical Protestants... Looking at basic, core religious beliefs, 98 percent say they believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ… While previous surveys have clearly established LDS agreement with certain key Christian doctrines — 90 percent of Mormons believe in God, 91 percent believe the Bible is the word of God and 98 percent believe in life after death…

    2012 – A new study from researchers at the University of Pennsylvania and Indiana University- When it comes to the time they spend volunteering, the average adult American LDS member contributes as much as seven times more than that of the average American. The published findings further indicate that these “prosocial behaviors” are reflective of Latter-day Saint teachings, which emphasize Christian service and charity to others.

    2011 edition of the Princeton Review of the Best Colleges in America rated BYU as number 1 in both religious and sober students categories.

    "...by their fruits ye shall know them..." (Matt 7:20),

    and,

    “…for whoever is not against us is for us…” (Mark 9:40)

    April 22, 2012 at 6:43 pm |
    • Jenny

      This is a good way of seeing the simple precepts of Mormon belief. It sure will surprise you! And there's not a Mormon that can deny anything in this video.

      http://youtu.be/3HSlbuli7HM

      April 22, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
    • GetReal

      Thanks, Jenny. I needed a good laugh! ROFL!!

      April 22, 2012 at 8:02 pm |
    • Rockgod28

      How old is that movie 30+ years? That cartoon has been completely discredited the moment it came out.

      To see what Mormons really believe go to Youtube and visit the Mormon Channel.

      Unlike the early 80's animation style of Felix the Cat you will see something much different.

      By visiting the Mormon Channel you will see Bible Videos of the life of Jesus Christ. His ministry, his birth, death. On the cross and resurrection from the tomb.

      You will see actual Mormon doctrine and practices.

      If you need more information about the cartoon visit Fairlds.org.

      Please remember Luke 6:27-37 and have a marvelous day.

      April 22, 2012 at 9:22 pm |
    • Pete

      Um, so you guys that are saying the video that Jenny put on here is wrong? Say it. Say that you don't believe there was a council in heaven and that Lucifer and Jesus aren't brothers and that you aren't preparing yourselves (as mormons) to become gods of your own worlds. Say it out loud or deny your own gospel....

      April 22, 2012 at 10:36 pm |
    • Rockgod28

      To: Pete

      Was this video produced by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? No, it was not.

      So since it was not produced or endorsed by the Mormon Church it is wrong.

      My belief that I will state very clearly is that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, the very Eternal Father who created heaven and earth, died on the cross to atone for the sins of the world, my sins too, and was resurrected the third day.

      Jesus was chosen as the Messiah by God the Father, who sent his Son Jesus Christ, because he loves us and that whoso ever believes on his name should not parish, but have everlasting life.

      By the Grace of Jesus Christ and the merits of Jesus Christ, I am saved.

      Everything that Mormons believe can easily be found in the Articles of Faith.

      Enjoy! 🙂

      April 22, 2012 at 11:06 pm |
    • Bobby

      Rockgod28
      If we only relied on the publications put out by organizations themselves how many frauds do you think would ever be uncovered?

      April 23, 2012 at 12:06 am |
    • James

      "The God Makers" is not new now, and the ideas and accusations portrayed within were not new when the film was made. Most people who try to tear the Church down bring the same tired, old arguments up again and again; and yet, the Church has continued to grow, and to prosper despite these "revelations".

      I was raised Mormon, but at this point in my life consider myself more of an agnostic; partially because I became sick of all the religious bickering – I didn't want a part of it anymore; yet here I am being drawn into it anyway. And quite frankly, the claims made by mainstream Christianity, Judaism, and just about any other religion, when looked at from an objective point of view, are just as outrageous, and even as absurd as the claims made by Mormons. I could use the exact same reasoning and arguments used in "The God Makers" and apply them to just about any religion, in the same condescending tone, and make just as "eye opening" of a piece of work as that video.

      I spent several years in the Army, and have otherwise traveled and lived abroad and I can say that the world is filled with amazing, loving, kind-hearted people; and I can say with all honesty that the Mormons are among them. Sure, you have your bigots and hypocrites, not to mention the narcissistic "I'm right and you're going to hell if you don't join our church" individuals who tend to ruin the image of the Church by their overzealous pandering for compliance to their version of the rules, but my experience is that you find those in any religion, culture, or really any social "order" you can think of. The truth is that we are all weak, fallible human beings who are more often motivated by our emotions rather than reason or logic; and I honestly doubt that a logical God that created a logical universe would judge those same weak, fallible human beings just because they couldn't ever figure him, or themselves, out.

      April 23, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
  7. Becka

    My God is the only real god!!

    No! My god is the only real god!!

    Now...Hate each other

    April 22, 2012 at 6:17 pm |
    • Kate J.

      This is what happened to my family. Because of religion, my family has split and no longer likes each other.
      In the 80's and 90's we all got along great!! Not any more!!! Thanks Religion!!

      April 22, 2012 at 6:25 pm |
    • JOHN

      The university is to represent Christ, and his views, standards. A graduation may not be the place for a Mormon, Jew etc. to speak. I would think a challenge by a Christian to effect the world for Christ is more appropriate. But Liberty likes to think it can play in both worlds and get away with it.

      April 22, 2012 at 6:31 pm |
  8. Nancy

    I just love to hear religious folks vehemently disagree with each other. As a agnostic/atheist it just gives me a warm and cozy feeling.

    And BTW justsayin Hitler was not an atheist. Google it. He was a Catholic. He was crazy, a good speaker and was at the right place at the right time, but for the record, a Catholic as well.

    April 22, 2012 at 6:15 pm |
    • Alice

      The bickering scares me actually. Imagine a "Christian" America with this kind of divide. It would make what happened in Ireland look like a little playground spat. Nobody would be safe.

      April 23, 2012 at 12:13 am |
  9. Jean Lash

    I have 2 undergraduate students at Liberty U. One son,(19), and a daughter (17).

    WE ARE APPALLED that Liberty has chosen Romney to speak. Hopefully, by the time my children graduate, Jerry Falwell, Jr., will have a better choice.

    Mormomism is NOT a Christian religion. IT IS A CULT. Check it out.

    April 22, 2012 at 6:04 pm |
    • Jean

      I do wonder what Christ would think about today's Christians. Would he accept them? Or would he think they misunderstood his message? Just curious.

      April 22, 2012 at 6:10 pm |
    • On the other hand

      Christianity is a 'cult' too - just a very large one... sprung from a small start-up cult quite a number of years ago.

      April 22, 2012 at 6:14 pm |
    • Jean Lash

      Well if you don't think so..You can burn in hell people!!!!

      April 22, 2012 at 6:19 pm |
    • S.J.

      According to who? Who is the supreme authority on deciding what a religion is and is not...those in the religion or those outside of it?

      April 22, 2012 at 8:48 pm |
  10. AtheismIsCrap

    Nothing more.

    April 22, 2012 at 6:01 pm |
    • otto

      Not believeing in UFO's is CRAP.

      Mothing more.

      April 22, 2012 at 8:35 pm |
  11. Thinks2010

    Conservatives devour their own.

    April 22, 2012 at 4:58 pm |
    • Dodney Rangerfield

      What wine with conservative?

      April 22, 2012 at 5:53 pm |
    • Fidel Castro

      I am thinking white as red would go with communist.

      April 22, 2012 at 5:55 pm |
  12. Abinadi

    16 Ye shall know them by their fru its. Do men gather gra pes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
    17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fru it; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fru it.
    18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fru it, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fru it..
    19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fru it is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
    20 Wherefore by their fru its ye shall know them.
    21 ¶Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of God. (New Testament, Matthew, Chapter 7)

    Lynching people, burning crosses on people's lawns, sowing hate, bigotry and intollerance are not good fru its. I am not trying to be ignorant here. I am saying that some of you who are making fun and sport of Mormons need to be genuinely concerned for your souls!

    April 22, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
    • just sayin

      Mormons are not Christians. God bless

      April 22, 2012 at 4:21 pm |
    • Nii

      I know it is hard to understand but the Freemasons do not push their society as Christian cos then the Church will clamp down on it like you are suffering today. I wish you were Christian but some of your beliefs are just contrary to Xtian learning, tradition and above all the Xtian Bible.

      April 22, 2012 at 4:42 pm |
    • hammer

      just saying I'm glad you are so righteous.God will be the judge and not you.

      April 22, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
    • hammer

      Nii what is your belief put it out there I'm sure someone would have something to say about it.

      April 22, 2012 at 5:06 pm |
    • otto

      just sayin,

      No True Scotsman Fallacy,

      Alice: All Scotsmen enjoy haggis.
      Bob: My uncle is a Scotsman, and he doesn't like haggis!
      Alice: Well, all true Scotsmen like haggis.

      Christianity history is full of christians who do not agree with you and would say you are not christian, and there are bible passages that would support them and you. There are 25,000 different versions of christianity, they can't all be right, but they can all be wrong. God's Mess!

      April 22, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
    • just sayin

      Otto we have long since determined that what you know about Christianity wouldn't fill a thimble, but thanks for playing. God bless

      April 22, 2012 at 5:49 pm |
    • otto

      just sayin,

      Yeah except I have 25+ years in christianity including a christian education so you are right I know nothing about it. Though you seem to know less than I do because you never answer questions, you just make baseless claims.

      You claim to know who is and who isn't a christian. You have the logic of a 6 year old.

      Answer this question. What is one belief that all christians believe in?

      April 22, 2012 at 8:45 pm |
    • otto

      "Otto we have long since determined that what you know about Christianity wouldn't fill a thimble"

      Oh how I wish this were true!

      And since you know everything about christianity everyone can just pray to you.....you are all knowing!

      April 22, 2012 at 9:03 pm |
    • nope

      @otto
      nope

      April 22, 2012 at 9:04 pm |
    • otto

      Wow, that's a good point! I never thought of that.

      April 23, 2012 at 11:20 am |
  13. widowmaker

    I guess that whole "Love thy Neighbor" commandment (regardless of the religion) went out the window when a guest speaker not of their faith came to speak. What a joke of a school.

    April 22, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
    • GetReal

      How about "Judge not, lest ye be judged." Why are Cristians so narrow minded and thin skinned whenever something or someone challenges their beliefs? Is their own faith so fragile that it needs to shun people of different cultures, colors, or philosophies? Are they already aware of the vulnerable holes within their faith?
      I've studied a lot of religions and still have many unanswered questions, yet I enjoy a good intellectual debate on religion. Unfortunately, few Christians can provide convincing evidence that theirs is the only path to Heaven (or even that Heaven or Hell even exist). Faith is not even scientific evidence that God exists, to begin with. The Earth is only 5000 years old? What about fossils that have been carbon dated back millions of years? Immaculent conception... really? Hey, don't get me wrong. Jesus was a very enlightened guy. But, so was Buddha, Krishna, and many others. Jews, Muslims, Catholics, Protestants, have all evolved from the same source. They are all pieces of a greater puzzle. So, why focus on only one piece instead of assembling the whole puzzle within our inner consciousness?

      April 22, 2012 at 7:11 pm |
    • Alice

      That's why we still have blasphemy laws on the books. Massachusetts Bay statute Section 36 states.
      "Whoever willfully blasphemes the holy name of God by denying, cursing or contumeliously reproaching God, His creation, government or final judging of the world, or by cursing or contumeliously reproaching Jesus Christ or the Holy Ghost, or by cursing or contumeliously reproaching or exposing to contempt and ridicule, the holy word of God contained in the holy scriptures shall be punished by imprisonment in jail for not more than one year or by a fine of not more than three hundred dollars, and may also be bound to good behavior."

      Religion is answers that may never be questioned.

      April 23, 2012 at 12:22 am |
  14. b d

    I think the best thing for romney is this sort of response from the students. If anyone knows the university, you know that fundamentalism is rampant. Scientific fact is overruled by religion. He might loose some support on the hard right, but he will gain a lot from the moderates.

    April 22, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
    • TR6

      Romny couldn't get support from moderates if he gave each of them a thousand dollars

      April 22, 2012 at 10:22 pm |
  15. Nii

    SO A BOOK OF MORMON QUOTE! HUH!
    ok a Bible quote.
    Jesus said
    I did not come to bring peace but the sword. To divide the son against the father and to set the father-in-law against the mother-in-law. brother will give up brother to the sword and a man's enemies shall be in his own home".

    April 22, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
    • Abinadi

      So, is this your excuse for hate, bigotry, and intolerance? Sorry, but I don't think Jesus will buy that.

      April 22, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
    • Nii

      ABINADI
      The Xtian Jesus will not congratulate Mormons for telling themselves that it is dangerous to investigate Joseph smith's prophetic claims either. He was against false teaching. He did not sing "Pharisee Kumbaya". He told them what He thought. If He was a bigot then I am too. I will follow Him

      April 22, 2012 at 4:21 pm |
  16. MaxVeritas

    @ Paul Brownwho said," I have been a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for 53 years. I have never heard of anyone praying to Kolob. If you are going to be an intolerant bigot, at least find something real to rail against." - Don't leave Jesus out of the "intolerant bigot" group as He is the one building His Church, not Mormons, LDS, Baptists, etc, etc, therefore when it comes to religions of which there are many, He will say I never knew you. In closing I am curious Paul, in a word, are you saved now, yes-no? If yes, how did you appropriate eternal salvation?

    April 22, 2012 at 3:43 pm |
  17. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    April 22, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
    • otto

      Prayer changes planes into flying bombs!

      April 22, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
    • just sayin

      Prater is talking with God, not allah. allah is an idol. God bless

      April 22, 2012 at 5:51 pm |
    • just sayin

      Typo
      Prayer is talking with God not allah, allah is an idol or false god. God bless

      April 22, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
    • GetReal

      God has many different names, depending upon the language, just sayin. God, Jehovah, and Allah are the same God, but spoken in different languages. All of that happened with the fall of the tower of Babylon, when everyone scattered into different nations and began speaking indifferent tongues, if I remember my scripture correctly and you believe that sort of thing.
      Same God, different languages, that's all.

      April 22, 2012 at 7:25 pm |
    • just sayin

      allah is a false god not the God of the Bible. allah is an idol a false god. allah is not Jehova or YHWH. You have to know God to know the difference apparently. God bless

      April 22, 2012 at 9:09 pm |
    • Scott

      @just sayin allah is a false god not the God of the Bible. allah is an idol a false god. allah is not Jehova or YHWH.

      And once again just saying demonstrates how far his head is shoved up his ass. The god of Abraham is the god of Christians and the god of Jews and the god of Muslims

      April 22, 2012 at 10:28 pm |
  18. ?

    the largest Mormon university on earth is named after Brigham Young, a founder of the church. Brigham Young had 55 wives. Some of his wives were still married to their first husbands. Some of the husbands were sent on missions so Brigham Young could marry them. He later divorced many of these women. These are historical facts. Does this sound like a mainstream Christian religion? And why did the Mormons finally abandon poygamy? do a Wiki search. Educate yourself. I can't wait until some courageous reporter starts to ask Mitzi about his church. What fun!!

    April 22, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
    • Dr. COLO

      SO the ? guy and beau.......way to prove both of you have no idea what you are talking about....did one of you really use wiki as a reference......that always have proven info. Both of you have taken facts and twisted them. Whoever offended you I am sorry. It is ok for people to have different views on religion and god. Why dont you look at the good the LDS church does (try not use wikipedia a your source). You dont have to agree with their view on god, but you cant deny the good the mormons do. Beau on the mother Teresa thing you are taking a very narrow view of the teachings and dont really understand them. My suggestion to you is dont comment on things you dont fully understand. Also if your souce is wikipedia....get a new one.

      April 22, 2012 at 3:44 pm |
    • Scott

      In the classic Mormon style of propaganda Dr. Colco didn’t actually say any of your facts were wrong. This is because he knows you are correct. Facts and truth are the Mormon’s worst enemas

      April 22, 2012 at 10:47 pm |
  19. beau

    So the Republicans are going to settle on an east coast, elite, millionaire from an aristocratic family? What is his experience that will make him a successful Conservative President?
    1. He fires people, lays off employees, and outsources jobs while pocketing the pension funds of those same employees.
    2. He is comfortable in an upper class setting. After all, America IS the upper class, isn't it? The little people, like you and I, are not really very important. People of Romney's class and background see us as livestock that can understand English.
    3. He does not care if Americans suffer. He has made lots of them suffer so far in his life. He's made of tough stuff. No weepy compassion will ever cloud his judgment.
    4. He knows how to destroy corporations and sell off their assets. He could use those skills to destroy the federal government, a stated goal of Conservatism
    5. After the Romney Administration is over in 2016 or 2018, Conservatives will say, "Hey, you can't blame us for the disastrous Romney Administration. He wasn't a TRUE Conservative. What we need is a TRUE Conservative like Ron Paul or Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum … or maybe Senator Palin."

    April 22, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • GetReal

      Palin is no Senator, just a wannabe right wing celebrity, with her own agenda and opinions.

      April 22, 2012 at 7:32 pm |
  20. beau

    If you're a mormon:
    You believe in a man named Joseph Smith that declared himself a general against the American Government and then said he would create a Theocratic Monarchy with himself at its head.
    You also believe in a man named Joseph Smith that married a 14 year old girl – even though he already had plural wives – because he told the child's family they would receive instant eternal salvation if they gave her to him (Smith).
    You also believe in becoming a god after this life if you have committed to and followed all of your temple rituals sincerely and without deviance.
    You also believe that anyone that is not a mormon will NOT be allow to be with Jesus Christ or God, no matter how good they are, if they do not accept your gospel (religion) to be the only true church. For example. Mother Teresa will not be in heaven if she does not accept a posthumous baptism in the after life.
    You also believe that you must take on secret temple names, wear garments (underwear) that has secret symbols that are used in secret rituals in the temple as well as a blood oath that began in 1843, but ended in 1990 when there was a general uproar amongst non-mormons that found out about this particular ritual.
    You also believe Blacks and Native Americans were marked with dark skin for being evil in the pre-life or because they just displeased god.
    You believe that once you are a god of your own world, you with your heavenly wife will create spirit children that will then fill the earthly bodies of human on your own particular planet that you rule over...meaning that you are already (in certain terms) better than the God that created this planet.
    You do believe that Lucifer and Jesus were and are brothers. Sign A TRUE Conservative Republican."

    April 22, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • Rockgod28

      I am a Mormon and you don't get to tell me what I believe as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

      How about we live as Christ commanded us to live which is in Luke 6:27-37?

      I know I am.

      April 22, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
    • Mike

      Actually Mike, it doesn't matter that you're upset that people are pointing out the secrets of your cult. What matters is your over-reaction to it.....

      April 22, 2012 at 6:26 pm |
    • PRISM 1234

      He may not tell YOU what you believe, but he certainly is right about what Mormons believe.
      Liberty university has stooped very low , compromising their own faith in the true Christ, inviting a Mormon and slick republican who opposes majority of principles Christ taught in the Scriptures, to have him come and give speeches to the graduates. Those who are refusing to take part in the commencement ceremony there, are right for doing so!
      So Liberty is just another washed out organization whose salt has lost its flavor!

      April 22, 2012 at 6:37 pm |
    • Scott

      @Rockgod28 I am a Mormon and you don't get to tell me what I believe

      Did you notice that Rocgod28 didn’t say that he didn’t believe that. It’s because he does

      April 22, 2012 at 10:50 pm |
    • Rockgod28

      To: Scott

      I had this point by point break down of the post of beau for you. It didn't post, so I will keep it simple.

      "No."

      There we all feel better now that has been cleared up about what I, a Mormon, believe.

      Have a good day. 🙂

      April 23, 2012 at 10:41 am |
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