Liberty's choice of Romney leads to angry student response
Students at Liberty University bow in prayer during commencement in 2007. Current students were angered by the choice of Mitt Romney for the 2012 graduation speaker.
April 20th, 2012
06:16 PM ET

Liberty's choice of Romney leads to angry student response

By Laura Bernardini and Dan Merica, CNN

Washington (CNN) – Liberty University students and alumni are accusing the Christian school of violating its own teachings by asking Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints whose adherents are called Mormons, to deliver its 2012 commencement address.

By Friday morning, more than 700 comments had been posted on the school's Facebook page about the Thursday announcement - a majority of them decidedly against the Chancellor Jerry Falwell Jr.’s invitation, citing that the school had taught them Mormonism isn’t part of the Christian faith.

“I can’t support Romney and I am happy I decided not to walk (in the commencement) this year,” wrote student Josh Bergmann. “Liberty University should have gotten a Christian to speak not someone who practices a cult. Shame on you Liberty University.”

Janet Loeffler, a 53-year-old freshman at Liberty, expressed her anger at the decision when contacted by CNN. She also sent a copy of the page of the freshman textbook “The Popular Encyclopedia of Apologetics” which includes the passage, “Mormon doctrine stands in stark contrast to Jewish and Christian monotheism, which teaches that there is only one true God and that every other ‘God’ is a false god.”

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Loeffler’s daughter, Sarah Misch, 33, of Unionville, Virginia, who is also a student at the school said, “I am glad I am not graduating this year. I would not want to end my studies at a Christian university by being sent in to the world at commencement by a Mormon. We came to Liberty because of our faith in Jesus; not for political reasons.”

Holly Stanton Morgan, another student, posted to Facebook, “I am glad that my husband and I won’t be attending his commencement. Mormonism is not Christianity. My commencement is next year. Hopefully they choose more wisely.”

Mark DeMoss, a Liberty graduate, member of the Board of Trustees and a senior adviser to the Romney campaign, said on Friday, “We have had a Jewish commencement speaker, we have had a Catholic commencement speaker, and so, I think people are certainly entitled to their opinion. Social Media certainly provides an outlet for people’s opinions, but I think it is a great thing for the university.”

DeMoss also noted that the night before graduation is the annual Baccalaureate and that event will feature an evangelical Christian speaker.

Liberty University was founded as Lynchburg Baptist College in 1971 by the influential pastor and Moral Majority co-founder Jerry Falwell. He founded the school to be a Christian university for evangelical believers, according to Liberty’s website.

Today, Liberty brands itself as the largest evangelical university in the world, with 82,500 students enrolled either on campus or online.

Liberty University would not comment beyond the press release it sent out Thursday announcing Romney would speak. There will be 14,000 graduates for the May 12th ceremony. The University announced that it expected 34,000 guests.

Previous commencement speakers included previous Republican presidential candidates Sen. John McCain in 2006 and Ronald Reagan in 1980.

The relationship between Mormons and evangelicals has been tested as of late. With Romney as the presumptive nominee for the Republican Party, many political commentators are asking whether the evangelical base, an important voting bloc to the GOP, will come out for Romney.

If those votes hinge on how evangelicals see Mormonism, Romney may need further outreach to the evangelical community. A recent Pew Research Center survey finds that nearly half (47%) of white evangelicals say that Mormonism is not a Christian religion. Sixty-six percent responded the Mormonism and their religion are “very or somewhat different.”

The charge of Mormonism as a cult is not a new one for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Michael Otterson, head of public affairs for the Church, wrote about the word in a 2011 column.

“As part of the rhetorical warfare that has come to characterize modern American political discourse, it was only a matter of time before someone once again used the term “cult” to describe The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” Otterson wrote. He went on to describe the word as a, “a neat, shorthand and rather lazy way of putting a whole group into a box.”

The nation’s largest evangelical denomination, the Southern Baptist Conference, lists the LDS Church as a cult. They specifically cite differences in theology surrounding salvation, baptism, belief in the Trinity, and marriage. A major sticking point between other Christian traditions and Mormons is the Book of Mormon, which Mormons believe is divinely inspired scripture and on par with the Bible. Other Christians do not recognize the Book of Mormon as scripture.

CNN reached out to a LDS church spokesman for further comment but they demurred, stating that the story was a political story.

A Romney spokesman did not respond to questions about the issue.

Not all Facebook comments were negative, though. Tom Johnson added, “Mitt Romney has been invited to give a motivational speech, not a religious sermon. His religious beliefs do not have anything to do with his ability to give a motivational speech at commencement.”

And Kathy Creech added, “I, for one, am pleased that the future President of the United States will be speaking there!”

soundoff (1,597 Responses)
  1. Smith Boat

    I can't imagine Republican party and it so call social conservative and evangelicals will elect a mormon to white house. As a christian doing that is a betrayal to my failth

    April 20, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
    • RMB

      How exactly would that betray your faith?

      April 20, 2012 at 9:51 pm |
    • biologixco

      This Republican is voting OBAMA2012!

      April 20, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
    • mandarax

      Your faith in Jesus as Lord, or Jesus as Republican? It's both to you, isn't it? Sheesh, you guys really are the American Taliban.

      April 20, 2012 at 10:14 pm |
    • bingham22

      And watching my country go up in commie flames is against my religion.

      April 20, 2012 at 10:51 pm |
    • Jon

      Yeah! Lets get out the pitch-forks and torches! WE are the true believers...not them. And to prove it we will spew bigotry and rant and rave!

      April 21, 2012 at 9:58 am |
    • Lindsey

      And that's what our country was founded on??? Religious hypocrisy? No, religious freedom.

      April 21, 2012 at 10:02 am |
    • Rockgod28

      Here is your faith on display against Mormons as you call them a cult, liars and display other bigotry:

      You have a rich spiritual heritage of over 182 years. A heritage of those that spoke and acted just like you during the early years of the restoration of the Church of Jesus Christ by Joseph Smith Junior.

      In 1835 Joseph Smith wrote a declaration of belief regarding governments and laws. The purpose of this declaration was so “That our belief with regard to earthly governments and laws in general may not be misinterpreted nor misunderstood, we have thought proper to present, at the close of this volume [of History of the Church], our opinion concerning the same.” (History of the Church, 2:247) It is now Section 134 in the Doctrine and Covenants, canonized scripture of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

      This declaration was adopted by unanimous vote of the general assembly of the Church in Kirtland, Ohio 17th August 1835.
      Three years later in 1838 Governor Boggs issued Missouri Executive Order 44 or Mormon Extermination Order. For nearly 140 years it was legal to kill Mormons in the State of Missouri.

      It was four year after the declaration on government Joseph Smith Jr., an American Citizen, representing the people who were suffering at the hands of mob violence for their beliefs. He met with President Martin Van Buren in November 1839 and worked for two months until February 1840 Joseph Smith was told, “Your cause is just, but I can do nothing for you.”

      It was a bitter lesson in government.

      Joseph returned to help relieve the suffering of the people as best he could against the mobs that attacked the Mormons who called them liars, a cult and did worst in the name of Christianity.

      In 1844 Joseph Smith announced his candidacy for President of the United States. He ran on a platform to stop mob violence, free the slaves without collapsing the Southern economy and expand the borders of the United States by annexing Oregon and further at the consent of Native Americans to include their lands to the western coast.

      The forces of religious bigotry and racial inequality conspired together with the Governor of Illinois to murder Joseph Smith Jr. to stop him from his attempt to win the presidency that election or the next.

      This is your legacy and spiritual heritage to those that call Mormonism a cult, liars and lay the charge of conspiracy upon in your anger and hatred.

      You who call Mormonism a cult and liars associate yourselves with bigots, murderers, rapists, and the worst of humanity that call for the extermination of Mormons from American life.

      Over 100 years ago that was attempted and failed. So there is another legacy you get associated with too, failure.

      The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints did not end with Joseph Smith Jr. and will not pass away even if the same extermination orders, mobs and assaults were tried again and again.

      You are free to display your bigotry and allegiance to those whose spiritual heritage you inherit by turning your back on Romney.

      April 21, 2012 at 6:56 pm |
  2. Voice of Reason

    "Believe it or not you really do worship the same God you just believe differing things about Him."

    And your proof is?

    April 20, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
    • Dandini

      I was born and raised Lutheran (Missouri Synod), was an acolyte, sang in choir, taught Sunday School, and was youth group leader.

      Today I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, where we believe and teach that there is a God the Father, His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost... It is LDS doctrine... the LDS church also believes and teaches as doctrine that Jesus Christ was born as the Only Begotten Son of God, of a virgin, Mary, in Bethlehem, that he suffered and died on the cross for all mankind, that he resurrected with a "glorified" and "incorruptible" body of flesh and bone, that he sits on the right hand of God, that he is Lord , Savior and Redeemer for all mankind...

      April 20, 2012 at 10:00 pm |
    • Voice of Reason


      And your point is?

      April 20, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
  3. ALLEN

    Glenn Beck spoke two years ago at Liberty University's spring commencement. You may notice that most of those who are angry are in their thirties or older. Just like the younger you are the more likely you'll accept gay or interracial marriages, the younger you are the more likely you'll accept Mormons as Christian (or at least good moral people). Believe it or not you really do worship the same God you just believe differing things about Him.

    April 20, 2012 at 9:30 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      And your proof is?

      April 20, 2012 at 9:38 pm |
    • mandarax

      Glenn Beck spoke at their commencement, but they draw the line at Mitt Romney? What kind of people are these?

      April 20, 2012 at 9:43 pm |
  4. Ann

    .. and you would expect that higher education made them smarter. Get real people, you are spoiled if this is your biggest problem.

    April 20, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
    • mandarax

      Makes you wonder if a college run by fundamentalist Christians really const.itutes higher education. I wonder what they teach in their biology and geology departments.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:41 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      "I wonder what they teach in their biology and geology departments."

      Great question! I would be curious to know if they teach intelligent design / creationism.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:42 pm |
    • Jerry_Falwell_sucks

      It's not a good university. It teaches a young-Earth creationist view.

      April 23, 2012 at 1:07 am |
  5. zago

    Mormons baptize the dead. If this were practiced in remotely poor African corners, without doubt it would have been dubbed VOODOO. There is no doubt in my mind that the Gov is a VOODOO priest, a SORCERER

    April 20, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      All religions are cults and extremely dangerous, all of them.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:28 pm |
    • Jeremy

      1 Corinthians 15:29. Christians have always baptized for the dead because of John 3:5 and because God loves everyone and wants them all to have a fair chance to accept the teachings of Jesus. You should try being Christian and not just talking about it. Christians serve their fellow man. What better service can you give than the opportunity to know and live the teachings of Jesus and thus gain salvation. Hey so called "Christians" try reading the bible. How else do you give everyone of God's children the chance to receive baptism? (Those who died to young or those who never heard of the Gospel of Jesus Christ) It is a pretty simple solution. God designed it so it should be. It is called a proxy baptism for the dead. Nothing new. God uses proxy all the time. Jesus, angels, prophets, faithful chuch members, etc. Oh and by the way baptism is required. (John 3:5)

      April 21, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
  6. The graduation robes and mortarboards are made out of people!!!!


    April 20, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
  7. Voice of Reason

    There was no god, there is no god and there will never be a god.

    April 20, 2012 at 9:05 pm |
    • Vern

      That is your opinion. You are free to hold it, and others should show respect for you because you have an opinion. But you should respect others who say God exists, and He always has. You do not know for a fact that God doesn't exist. I rely on faith that He does.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      With all due respect Vern, there is no proof of god yet you want me to respect people that believe in the supernatural. It would be fine with me if they would just keep their beliefs to themselves. But no, they won't. The try and force it into our public schools, into our government into the minds of young impressionable children. They are dangerous and evil and I have no respect for intolerance.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:26 pm |
    • opb1847

      You don't believe in God, but believe in evil? – Too funny.

      April 22, 2012 at 10:47 pm |
  8. Randy, San Francisco

    The last thing America needs is a religious war among different Christian denominations. We are in the 21st century and not the Dark Ages when tens of thousands perished in the name of God.

    April 20, 2012 at 9:03 pm |
    • Brian Dodge

      Unfortunately for the great white nope, the teavangelicals are already at war with Mormons, science, reality, and reason. Like the girl said, she came to school for Jesus, not politics, and is ready to bite off her nose to spite her face.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:54 pm |
  9. RMB

    God bless freedom of religion and freedom of speech. Freedoms that Romney will certainly do a better job preserving and protecting than Obama.

    April 20, 2012 at 8:57 pm |
    • Vern

      Really? Seems that most members of the party that he will be the nominee for believes that this is only a Christian nation, and that other religions don't really have a seat at the American table, when it comes to laws and beliefs.

      I'll take Mr. Obama any day over Mr. Romney.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:18 pm |
    • RMB

      Alright Vern, I just hope you've got enough cash on hand to afford a President like Obama.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:24 pm |
    • hmm

      RBM...if you are referring to taxes, they are the LOWEST they have been since 1950.
      And if you think Romney will protect religious freedom, you are sorely mistaken. Who comes to your door and tries to convert you? Oh yeah, that's right: Mormons and JW's. Hello?

      April 20, 2012 at 9:33 pm |
    • RMB

      hmmm – Why do you suggest Romney won't protect religious freedom? Door-to-door proselytizing is exactly the kind of religious freedom that should be protected. And I was referring to Obama adding $5 trillion to our nation's debt. Seems like a pretty steep price with little to show for it.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
  10. mandarax

    From the article: “Liberty University should have gotten a Christian to speak not someone who practices a cult."

    That is officially the funniest thing I have heard all day! It's actually hard to imagine him saying it with a straight face...

    April 20, 2012 at 8:50 pm |
    • Stuck-With-Rmoney

      As a Methodist, I was taught from childhood that Mormon is a cult.

      Thanks to the establishment; now I have to flip-flop and vote for a Mormon or sit out the election.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:18 pm |
    • mandarax

      As a freethinker I understand that Methodism also is a cult. That's why I thought the quote was funny in the first place.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:37 pm |
  11. GIJoe

    Future president??? GET REAL !!!!! If Koch can buy or steal the votes, he will be DICTATOR. If mormons forced a dead HITLer to be baptised, what will they do to us? Cut off our food? Our arms? Take out our tongues or eyes? They will stop at nothing.

    Jim Johnson was to the people following him to Afrca what Mitt romney is to the idiots following him.

    April 20, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
  12. Wally

    The question of whether you believe Mormons are "true" Christians is a fair one, and really based on how you perceive what Christianity is. If you look closely at Mormonism and the Book of Mormon, it contains a number of beliefs that are waaaay outside of traditional Christian views. For example, they believe that God was once a mortal being from the planet Kolob, who perfected himself to the point of reaching godhood. They believe that if you practice the Mormon religion faithfully, you can also achieve godhood and will in fact reign over your own planet populated by your spirit children. This is quite a departure from what's described in the Bible, but nevertheless they still believe in Jesus as Savior. Christians or not Christians? It's all in the eye of the beholder...

    April 20, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
    • Kris Craig

      There's no such thing as a "true" Christian. It's ALL in the eye of the beholder. These religions are all subjective and make little sense. Every denomination of Christianity contains its own quirks. Mormonism just takes it to a slightly more amusing level.

      April 20, 2012 at 8:55 pm |
    • bobaussie

      For those few Liberty graduates, you should go back and actually read your scriptures: James 1:27
      27 "Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world." If you're into bashing other faiths as cults, then you're not really Christian are you? According to James, anyone and any organization that has as its core belief to help those who are in need, then they are the real Christians, including Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Mormons, Lutherans, Catholics, etc. I would tend to believe, that based on this one scripture alone, Evangelicals are a cult of elitists.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:02 pm |
    • hmm

      I think it's pretty funny that a cult is calling another cult...a cult.
      I used to be a Born Again and it's the cultiest cult that ever culted.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:35 pm |
    • Kev

      If Christians knew and understood the word henodeism, and they knew and understood that the OT regularly demonstrates that the Jews and the "god" upon which their religion is built was actually a collection of gods, would there be a new exodus?

      One more truth "Christians" might readily reject.

      April 20, 2012 at 10:06 pm |
    • Laughable

      The most amusing thing about Evangelicals is how fearful they are of Mormons. What other church would preach from their pulpits negative campaigns against another religion? If your religion is true then why are you worried about Mormons? Mormons certainly don't spend Sundays talking about avoiding the message of the Evangelicals. We spend them teaching about Jesus and how to be better people and live better lives.

      April 21, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
    • Jerry_Falwell_sucks

      Of course when you die, you become God. You cease to exist.

      April 23, 2012 at 1:13 am |
  13. God

    The correct religion is Latvian Orthodoxy. There, now it's settled. Those of you who don't convert will be tortured for eternity because, at the end of the day, I'm really just a big jerk.

    April 20, 2012 at 8:38 pm |
  14. mark

    get real. Obama cares more about the Muslim religion than he does about Catholics and Christians. Would you be ok with him speaking?

    April 20, 2012 at 8:37 pm |
    • Leo

      Mark, you are right on, for this is CNN's way of keeping Barack Hussien Obama on the job.

      Anyone who calls the Koran Holy either doesn't know what Islam teaches (Obama Does) or isn't a Christian.

      April 20, 2012 at 8:40 pm |
    • Someone Smarter than You

      Ok, I have a rule: If you say "get real," then follow that with something that is pure fantasy and utterly ridiculous, I will not be able to take you seriously.

      April 20, 2012 at 8:40 pm |
    • Not Crazy

      Wow, are you guys for real?! How do you remember to breathe with so few IQ points?

      President Obama is not a Muslim and never was. He used to be an Atheist but converted to Christianity over 20 years ago and has been active in his church ever since. The word "Hussein" in his name is African, not Muslim. He was named after his Kenyan father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. There are mounds upon mounds upon mounds of evidence to back this up. There's more proof of President Obama's citizenship than there is of Mitt Romney's. Anyone who still cannot see that is just plain delusional and should seek immediate psychiatric help.

      Also, Islam is not any more inherently violent than Christianity. Both the Bible and the Quo'ran contain passages that call for violence; passages that the mainstream elements of both religions choose to selectively interpret in a non-violent way. In fact, most of the violent elements you associate with Islam are actually a product of Arab culture in general, not the religion. Islam is to Al Qaeda as Christianity is to the KKK. The extremist elements do not represent the religions as a whole.

      Of course, as an Agnostic, I think all of your respective religions are just plain silly. It always amuses me when you Evangelicals whine whenever someone like me mocks religion, but then you turn around and do the exact same thing to religions like Islam and Mormonism. You're nothing but hypocrites.

      I would suggest that you loosen the aluminum foil you have wrapped around your heads since it appears to be cutting off the circulation to your brains.

      April 20, 2012 at 8:50 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Thank you, Not Crazy. Too bad the morons you're lecturing are unable to process thought.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:11 pm |
    • Larry L

      Great comments "Not Crazy" but I fear you're trying to teach a pig how to play the piano. Hatred and bigotry are very powerful motivators.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:16 pm |
    • hmm

      Look...we have seen the President eat pork and drink beer. He's not a Muslim. And if he is, then why did he attend a CHRISTIAN church for 20 years? You know, the one you guys b*itch about b/c Rev. Wright *dared* to say that America is not perfect? So which is it? Hmm?
      This whole argument is so lame. You just hate that you have a Black POTUS so you have to find *ridiculous* things to tear him apart over since it's not PC to use the N word anymore.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:40 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      And don't you just Leotard jumping on that bandwagon? Where's Uncouth Dumbbell to praise him now?

      April 20, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
    • bingham22

      Now look; We know Obama is not Muslim...that has been well established. However, and here is the big sticking point; Many of us believe that he is out to fundamentally change America- as he puts it- and not in a good way. How could it be else with his biggest billionaire backers and advisers being avowed communists. At least with Romney we have hope for the future. With Obama I see nothing more than economic woe that translates to a meltdown whereupon he can take the reins of government as many Dictator's have done in the past. To avoid that from even being a small chance of reality I will take the Mormon who has the record of success and experience to oust the wannabe Dictator.

      April 20, 2012 at 11:03 pm |
  15. Margaret Whitestone

    Ha ha.

    April 20, 2012 at 8:35 pm |
  16. don

    even the evangelicals are flip flopping. I was raised Baptist and taught mormons are a cult. They do not believe in the trinity The Book of mormon is not devine. So what is it now??? Maybe being a republican mormon is ok. But a democratic mormon would be bad. Or a black christian is ok unless he is a democratic black christian. Then maybe a muslim republican is good/? Thats what happens when you mix church and state. Obama 2012

    April 20, 2012 at 8:33 pm |
  17. GIJoe

    The mormons baptised Hitler decades after he died. Is THAT who that one idiot thinks should be president? The mormons wanted HITLER as one of their own !! HOW SICK IS THAT.

    April 20, 2012 at 8:32 pm |
    • RMB

      Prove it. Oh, you can't? Hmm, that's too bad, guess you'll just have to stick to making outrageous claims without any evidence to back them up.

      April 20, 2012 at 8:49 pm |
    • bobaussie

      GI Joe, will you please cite your reference that Mormon's "baptized" Adolf Hitler? If you can't, then you're a propagandist like Hitler's Goebbels. In addition to being anti-Mormon, you're probably anti-semitic, anti-Christ, and support ethnic cleansing. Cite your source to prove me wrong.

      April 20, 2012 at 8:51 pm |
    • Holly in CA

      There is no evidence to support your outrageous claim.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:52 pm |
  18. ?

    We've been trying to tell you, southern evangelicals will not vote for Mitt Romney. They will stay home. And God bless em, at least someone in this country is willing to stand up for what they believe in!

    April 20, 2012 at 8:12 pm |
    • marcindc

      Yeah...religious bigotry and hate. That's a great lesson to learn .They need to wear hoods with their graduation robes or become a northeastern liberal.

      April 20, 2012 at 8:32 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      hey marcindc, what's wrong with hooded robes? May i direct your attention to "On Your Feet Or On Your Knees" double live album by Blue Oyster Cult?

      April 20, 2012 at 9:00 pm |
    • hmm

      So instead of doing their civic duty, they are going to sit at home and pout? Bless their hearts.
      No, really. I'm glad idiots aren't voting.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:42 pm |
    • bingham22

      Well enjoy the "ideal society" that you will face as a reality in less than three years if you do throw your vote away comrade. Axelrod and the other billionaires backing Obama will make sure of that.

      April 20, 2012 at 11:06 pm |
    • Laughable

      I think Mitt Romney has done a good job of not bringing religion into the politics. Regardless of whether you agree with his religion is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is you have a good family man with good intentions and a good solid business background who wants to correct the course of this country. The #1 issue this country faces is the debt. We cannot continue to be in debt. Recipe for disaster. It is going to bring this country to its knees. #2 biggest issue is energy. Why do we keep sending billions overseas to countries that despise us. We are a country full of intelligent people. How about we get off our butts and become energy independent. We should flog automobile manufacturers that give us commercials touting cars that get 30 mpg. That's nice but we've had that for many years. How about a car that doesn't need gasoline so I can afford to buy it and drive it? Romney is a business man. He understands these issues need to be fixed. Right now for our country this is what we need. #3 Problem. Congress. Full of corruption, and earmarks. (Maybe that should be Problem #1 and we wouldn't have the other two problems)

      April 21, 2012 at 5:42 pm |
  19. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things.

    April 20, 2012 at 8:06 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Why doesn't it change you into something approaching tolerable?

      April 20, 2012 at 8:11 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things

      April 20, 2012 at 8:20 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things,

      April 20, 2012 at 8:20 pm |
    • Margaret Whitestone

      Let me know when atheists start blowing up health clinics or flying planes into buildings in the name of "no-gods".

      April 20, 2012 at 8:36 pm |
    • just sayin

      Atheists have murdered more people in the last 100 years than were killed in all the previous centuries. God bless

      April 20, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
    • just sayin

      An atheist was responsible for blitzkreig. Destroying entire cities and civilian populations. For clarification, prayer is talking with God not the false god allah. God bless

      April 20, 2012 at 8:44 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      An imbecile is responsible for posts under the moniker "just sayin".


      April 20, 2012 at 9:12 pm |
    • Larry L

      Prayer obviously has some impact on the outcome of sporting events – especially football. Players are always pointing to the sky and thanking God for making those other heathens lose.

      However, that love of sports comes at a price. God apparently has been so busy with sports he's not taken time to deal with poverty, hunger, tornados, hurricanes, earthquakes, war, disease, and terrorism.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:22 pm |
    • hmm

      God = Allah = God. Sorry to break it to you.
      Or have you not read the Old Testament? That is one messed up, petty, bitter, jealous (his word) god you have there.

      It's never been proven that prayer changes anything. Not only that, but, again, your god is messed up...he won't do anything unless you beg for it and stroke his ego? And even then, *maybe* he'll help you out...but maybe not.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:45 pm |
  20. Atheism is not healthy for morons

    Thinking changes things.

    April 20, 2012 at 8:03 pm |
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