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May 2nd, 2012
11:19 AM ET

Who is David Barton, #1 trending topic on Google?

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

A longtime star on the conservative Christian circuit, controversial evangelical historian David Barton is today the No. 1 trending topic on Google.

The online surge comes on the heels of Barton’s appearance on The Daily Show on Tuesday night.

Barton argues that religion – and Christianity in particular – played a huge role in the founding and history of the United States, and that that role has been largely scrubbed from the history books by modern secular elites.

The Texas-based Barton runs a group called WallBuilders, which is "dedicated to presenting America's forgotten history and heroes, with an emphasis on the moral, religious, and constitutional foundation on which America was built – a foundation which, in recent years, has been seriously attacked and undermined," according to its website.

In his new book, “The Jefferson Lies: Exposing the Myths You've Always Believed About Thomas Jefferson,” Barton attempts to dispel the popular notion that Thomas Jefferson was a secular politician who pioneered the idea of strict church-state separation.

Barton wears a variety of hats in Republican and conservative circles. He’s a former top official in the Texas GOP and a sometimes consultant with the Republican National Committee; a behind-the-scenes political operative who advises presidential candidates and coordinates trips to Israel for the likes of Glenn Beck; and a prolific author, speaker and Washington tour guide on the evangelical circuit.

Barton and his work are featured prominently in former "Growing Pains" star Kirk Cameron’s new movie “Monumental,” about the role of religion in American history.

Barton's work has drawn many critics, including Warren Throckmorton, an associate professor of psychology at Grove City College who has fact-checked some of Barton's work. “That’s just not what happened,” Throckmorton frequently says of Barton's version of historical events.

Do you have an opinion of David Barton? Ever read his work or see him speak? Share your views and stories in comments.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Christianity • History

soundoff (402 Responses)
  1. Nonimus

    "The online surge comes on the heels of Barton’s appearance on The Daily Show on Tuesday night."

    Hopefully this surge in interest will expose this charlatan for what he is.

    May 2, 2012 at 4:52 pm |
  2. Yabba Dabba Don't

    Click on stephensonbillings link to see what a psychotic conspiracy theorist he is. Be prepared to laugh at ht his ideas about Halo and, I kid you not, masturbating turtles. There's lots more, and it is so out-there weird that you will wonder if it isn't a joke.

    May 2, 2012 at 4:43 pm |
    • Sarah

      Time to call the cops on this guy. Unless they're too busy pepper-spraying some homeless person for sitting down.

      May 2, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
  3. God's Oldest Dreamer

    stephensonbillings, wrote on Wednesday, May 2, 2012 at 3:25 pm, stating, "The sad thing is that today's liberal elists know so little of history. The socialism you so readily embrace was a failure for Germany, Soviet Union and China. I don't know why you people want to turn the US of A into that. Clearly all this Anderson Cooper and Fared Zacharius and Keith Olberman and Rachel Madcow has brainwashed you. You people need to open your minds a little and look at the larger picture. Embrace the world outside of your narrow worldviews, read a different news source other than the liberal talking points. Talk to the people in your community. America needs to get back to its foundational roots. We Americans are fed up with the indecency and the radical social re-enginering. People like Dr. Barton know that and inspire us. Think of Congressman Bachmann and Senator Santorum. There was promise there but many in the party just had Romney's dollar signs in their heart. It's truly sad."

    It truly is sad the ongoing momentums these mustard seeds sprout up and show little to much less their branched undergrowths of vinyarded leverages and weeded onslaughts of treasured illegalities of common mankind's failures to not imbibe even less forgo the toke! These two branches, one legal and the other illed-legal seem to be social markers in regulations' con and pro subdifuse amalgums proper! The wines do esteem the whiners' non-aptives while the tokers go on under the guised illegalities ever meandering with little substantiations befitting lawlessness at its' finest decore! The people-pleasers of con-federacies will never be an amplifiers of unities but rather the divisionists amplitudes!

    May 2, 2012 at 4:18 pm |
    • stephensonbillings

      First of all, I find your comment insulting. Secondly, you clearly do not understand the implicit necessity of ethics and principles in guiding a nation. We can't all go willy nilly into leadership and government without guidance. The greatest heritage America has is from Jesus Christ. He inspired the humanist movement, the love of rationalism and the hope of liberty which are the foundational blocks of America. There is simply no denying this. If you know anything about History at all, that is.

      May 2, 2012 at 4:35 pm |
    • Nonimus

      How can anyone "find" his comment anything? It's nonsense.

      May 2, 2012 at 4:43 pm |
    • sam

      @Nonimus – he found sense in it. And that explains plenty.

      May 2, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
  4. William

    A smooth talking liar.

    May 2, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
  5. Primewonk

    Stephensonbillings wrote, "Listen, you can disagree with Hannity and O'Reilly all you want, but they're no denying the guys speak from the gut, with integrity and compassion and a true dedication to saving America from liberal elitists and the socialists."

    Really? Because, it was FOX News that went to federal court and the FCC claiming they had a consti.tutional right to lie to the public during their news casts. Maybe Hannity, O'Reilly, and the others forgot to tell you cretins they were lying?

    May 2, 2012 at 4:04 pm |
    • Nonimus

      Haven't seen that one. Which case is that?

      May 2, 2012 at 4:26 pm |
    • stephensonbillings

      I dont want to get in a dog fight about your activist judges but once again the democrats are trying to force the most disturbing acts of immorality down our throats like in California and elsewhere. There's a reason the Bible called your so-called lifestyle an abomination.

      May 2, 2012 at 4:37 pm |
    • Sarah

      ...said the probable child molester....

      May 2, 2012 at 4:42 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @stephensonbillings

      Really? And what horribly immoral acts are they forcing you to commit?

      May 2, 2012 at 4:48 pm |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Stephen is clearly a bigot and liar...just check out his website: http://stephensonbillings.wordpress.com/.

      A direct pas.sage from his page and this will be all most people need to see that this guy is not worthy of anyone's time.
      "Mr. Stephenson Billings is an Investigative Journalist whose work often appears on the news website Christwire.org, among others. "

      May 2, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
  6. mickey1313

    He is just a Christian lier. The founding fathers MAY have been religious, but they clearly wanted all government decisions to be made separated from their personal spiritual beliefs. He trys to portray the founding fathers as Christian zealots, just now so

    May 2, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
  7. Reality

    “WallBuilders' founder and president, David Barton, resides in Aledo, Texas (just west of Fort Worth), with his wife, Cheryl, and their three children. David spent eight years as an educator and school administrator before founding WallBuilders. "

    So how did he become a scholar in US history and religion? Anybody know?

    And let us review MR. Barton's finances as per guidestar.org (See Wallbuilders).

    Salary: he pays himself = $108,049 (he, his wife and his mother make up 50% of the board of directors),

    Then there are those other unspecified salaries of $288,872 (his mother and wife?),

    He billed Wallbuilders travel expenses of $67,000 in 2009.

    And then there is the securities portfolio of $1,149,239 where he/Wallbuilder pays no tax on interest, dividends or capital gains because Wallbuiders is a "non-profit".

    Hmmmm???????

    May 2, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
    • LOL Religion

      Defrauding the public through religion? Say it ain't so, lol.

      May 2, 2012 at 4:14 pm |
    • God's Oldest Dreamer

      Sound like a case of fraudulent money laundering for the betterments of the family needs!

      May 2, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
  8. William Demuth

    Mr Billings

    4c3bc4d5c9983e9789eaa7bc6725ecdda37db9a7

    5c4e84d78b8047c38b59df4ab20e03e9e65efa6d

    Above are your most commonly used screen named encoded in SHA1.

    Packet sniffers shall be watching for it, so we may identify your PC.

    I would really recomend eliminating all those pictures ASAP.

    Oh and the article about God not permitting a cure for AIDS is particularly sick.

    May 2, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      I do believe that's the same fellow who claimed that marijuana is as deadly as "heroin, tequila and cocaine all mixed together."

      May 2, 2012 at 4:18 pm |
    • stephensonbillings

      Please do not make threats against me and my family. I will take recourse with the local authoritis if you persist. Also, I am not the author of the article in question (not surprising since you liberals have such a disdain for the truth).

      May 2, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
    • GodPot

      "Please do not make threats against me and my family." lol

      I think he thinks "packet sniffers" must be code for attack dogs or something...

      This guy is a loon.

      May 2, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
  9. Esther

    Wow, so much for "tolerance" from these responders! Such hostility, makes me wonder if Mr Barton has hit a nerve. Or is he sharing truth that so many don't want to hear? CNN has even moved this from its home page! I have heard Mr. Barton speak. He has spent countless hours going over original papers written by our founding fathers. All of you open minded readers should take a chance to learn something new and read one of his books or listen to him speak. Or you could just claim to be open minded and continue to spew hatred on this blog.

    May 2, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      Sycophant

      May 2, 2012 at 4:01 pm |
    • Oh Yeah

      Most of us have either read him or seen interviews, and we are well aware of the slight-of-hand he prefers to use instead of honest debate. Feel free to read my comment just below on his deceptive argumentative techniques.

      You believe him because you want to believe him, not because you have bothered to find out if what he says is true. That makes you what you accuse people here of being – someone who makes accusations without taking the time to find out the truth of the matter.

      May 2, 2012 at 4:03 pm |
    • BRC

      @Esther,
      There are many things that are due tolerance, and there is a difference between tolerance, acceptance and respect. Lying, and presenting it as fact, does not warrant any of the three. Many of the points Barton makes are flagrantly false, have been proven false be secular AND religious scholars, and can be reproven as false at any time. Yet he continues to claim them to be true. that means he is either very very slow, or a liar. if he truly just doesn't understand, then he is due tolerance, and perhaps some pity, but if he is being intentionally decietful he deserves to be called out for it.

      You can be open minded and still not accept things that aren't true. Open minded doesn't mean gullible. And calling false information false, even in harsh words, does not amount to intolerance. Peoplpe can say whatever they want about him, it's just words, until someone tries to act against him, noone is really doing anything wrong.

      May 2, 2012 at 4:04 pm |
    • mickey1313

      Not at all, people are mad that he has no credentials, but spouts his wants as truth. And then he makes a fortune off of his npo, the very type of thing the founding fathers would never have permitted.

      May 2, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
  10. greg

    Wow, stephensonbillings is quite the nut. He actually tries to sell his garbage on ebay too, not just here. He's pushing his religious disease anywhere he can. Stay away. It's disgusting stuff.

    May 2, 2012 at 3:51 pm |
    • GodPot

      I have no doubt he does more to push people away from religion then he does to bring them closer to it...

      May 2, 2012 at 4:55 pm |
  11. Don

    But that hair, that frozen hair. It can't be real. He must spray it with varnish, and coat his shiny face with that too.

    What a phony he is. You'd have to be pretty stupid to fall for his attempts to re-write history.

    May 2, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
    • Oh Yeah

      Ever listen to him? He is a real piece of work. He rattles off a statement as fast as he can so that the other person cannot challenge the foour or five faulty points he hased his conclusion on, and if questioned on a part of it, digresses into obscurity so that the overall flaw is not seen. He also loves to point out really obscure cases of injustices against Christians as if they are the true trend, and that all seculars are like the dumb-dumb in these obscure cases.

      He also loves to shift definitions, trying to say in one moment that "America is a Christian Nation" only means Christian influences informed the culture of the founders, then in the next moment using it to say the founder wanted the country to obey the Bible as he interprets it.

      Very shifty argumentation, not the honorable kind of debate at all.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:44 pm |
    • LOL Religion

      Yep, OH YEAH, that's exactly how William Lane Craig operates as well. I have no idea why folks think he is some sort of genius debater, his SOP is throwing as much crap as possible against the wall and hoping some sticks.

      May 2, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
  12. Reality

    Were not many of the original settlers, save the slaves, fleeing Christian persecution in their homelands?

    Were not all those Irish immigrants fleeing starvation? Another failure of the Catholic god !!!

    German and Chinese immigrants? They were simply looking for work and god simply came along for the ride.

    And what did this son of German-Catholic immigrant great-grandparents determine from reading the books of many contemporary OT and NT scholars?

    ONLY FOR THE NEWCOMERS:

    1. origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482

    “New Torah For Modern Minds

    Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

    Such startling propositions – the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years – have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity – until now.

    The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine docu-ment. “

    prob•a•bly
    Adverb: Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell.

    2. Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Ludemann, Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

    The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.

    earlychristianwritings.com/theories.html

    For added "pizzazz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".

    Current RCC problems:

    Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!

    2 b., Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).

    Current problems:
    Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,

    May 2, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
    • Question

      Does anyone else just totally ignore everything by Reality and Dreamer and all of the prayer troll personnas? If you see that a post is nothing but Bible quotes, do you just pass it by?

      May 2, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
    • Reality

      For those who are "reading challenged", a PowerPoint slide for posting on your refrigerator door:

      SAVING 1.5 BILLION LOST MUSLIMS:
      THERE NEVER WERE AND NEVER WILL BE ANY ANGELS I.E. NO GABRIEL, NO ISLAM AND THEREFORE NO MORE KORANIC-DRIVEN ACTS OF HORROR AND TERROR LIKE 9/11.

      SAVING 2 BILLION LOST CHRISTIANS:
      THERE WERE NEVER ANY BODILY RESURRECTIONS AND THERE WILL NEVER BE ANY BODILY RESURRECTIONS I.E. NO EASTER, NO CHRISTIANITY.

      SAVING 15.5 MILLION FOLLOWERS OF JUDAISM:
      ABRAHAM AND MOSES PROBABLY NEVER EXISTED.

      prob•a•bly
      Adverb: Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell.

      Added details upon request.

      May 2, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
  13. stephensonbillings

    Why does our currency state "IN GOD WE TRUST"? Why did our Founding Fathers speak so often of the love of Jesus? Why does our Const.ution and Bill of Rights enshrine Freedom of Religion? Have you been to Washington? All our momuments praise the power of God. Yes, America is a Christian nation and the vast majority here in America are Christians. Why does this make you atheists and liberals so afraid?

    May 2, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
    • danielwalldammit

      Lol, I'll take rhetorical questions for the win.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • sam

      Now I just can't take you seriously at all. Who wants this one? William?

      May 2, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • lolwut

      Your ignorance regarding the origins of "In God We Trust" on federal currency and the pledge pretty much invalidates anything you claim to know about the Cold War. Also, "...the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..."- Treaty of Tripoli, 11th Article, 1796.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
    • stephensonbillings

      The sad thing is that today's liberal elists know so little of history. The socialism you so readily embrace was a failure for Germany, Soviet Union and China. I don't know why you people want to turn the US of A into that. Clearly all this Anderson Cooper and Fared Zacharius and Keith Olberman and Rachel Madcow has brainwashed you. You people need to open your minds a little and look at the larger picture. Embrace the world outside of your narrow worldviews, read a different news source other than the liberal talking points. Talk to the people in your community. America needs to get back to its foundational roots. We Americans are fed up with the indecency and the radical social re-enginering. People like Dr. Barton know that and inspire us. Think of Congressman Bachmann and Senator Santorum. There was promise there but many in the party just had Romney's dollar signs in their heart. It's truly sad.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • sam

      Now I just have to throw the troll flag on the play. No way this guy is serious.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • Kebos

      Frankly, it is not making the atheist or liberals fearful. But rather, it is making the christians fearful as the muslim population in the USA grows.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
    • Yeah! Me Too!

      I too really hate those darn liberal elists. And when those elists really get eling, it just makes me ever so mad!

      May 2, 2012 at 3:35 pm |
      • stephensonbillings

        Thank you, my friend. I am happy to hear that not everyone is buying the bridge the nutcases in this forum are selling.

        May 2, 2012 at 3:40 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Ah. Redneck Jeebus freak of the worst kind.

      You would laugh to see his cult website, downright bizzare.

      A cut from his biography, so laced with lies!

      As a former high school football athlete, he remains keenly interested in the scholastic sports of his hometown of Dyersburg, Tennessee. In his spare time, he also performs as a motivational children’s entertainer (working in the Auguste Method) and volunteers as a leader of Christian youth camping trips. Additionally, Mr. Billings maintains a robust business as an eBay Powerseller.

      Stephenson Billings was Born Again in the Blood of the Lamb at the age of 33. “I didn’t realize how hurt, how wrong I was until Jesus reached out and drew me close,” Stephenson has noted. “He held me and I wept, I wept such hot, messy tears like a child. That’s the experience I want to share with young people. That’s what gets me up in the morning and keeps me awake at night.” Today, journalist Billings’s favorite books of the Bible are the Book of Genesis, the Gospel Of Luke and the Epistle to the Colossians.

      Mr. Billings would like to thank all the readers and writers of Christwire for their years of love and support, as well as his dear friends Pastor Jack Gould and Tyson Bowers III.

      Mother, I dedicate all of my life’s work to you. There is no one else on this earth for whom I have a more magnanimous, passionate love.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:46 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      "In God We Trust" is on US currency thanks to Joe McCarthy and his campaign to conflate atheism with communism.
      A propaganda tactic that you appear to have swallowed hook, line and sinker.
      Socialism has not failed everywhere. Look at your neighbours to the north and our successful mix of capitalism and socialism.
      Or look at Denmark, Finland, Norway, The Netherlands.... etc

      May 2, 2012 at 4:11 pm |
      • stephensonbillings

        Doc. V.: I happen to be famous in Norway. I am a noted expert on their culture and its many faults so don't try to pull the wool over my eyes on that one.

        May 2, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
    • mickey1313

      you must not know much. In god we wrist was added to our money along with the line in the pledge of allegiance, in the cold ease to use as propaganda against the red scare. And the bill of rights granted you the personal right to believe what you want. The same law says that the government will make no law to promote religion.

      May 2, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
    • Primewonk

      "In god we trust" was added to our currency back in the 50s to try and intimidate this dastardly commies. Just like "under god" was added to the Pledge at the same time.

      Freedom of religion is not in your bible. In fact, my 1st amendment is in direct opposition to your 1st commandment. Guess what? My first trumps your first. I win. Every time. Every day.

      May 2, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
    • Sarah

      Oh, great. Another child molester.
      "volunteers" for youth activities, "keenly" interested in "sports", "children's entertainer"....and people who hunt for child victims do exactly this sort of thing.

      Sure, I don't have proof. But I've seen too much of this stuff happen over and over. The same stalking behavior, the "grooming", the vo.ye.u.rism, all laid out in someone's "resume".
      Ugh. Somebody call the cops already!

      May 2, 2012 at 4:29 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @stephensonbillings
      And just what, pray tell, are your credentials as an expert on Norway?
      I got an STD at BSU (Sacred Theology Doctorate at Baptist Scripture University). While reasearching my thesis paper "God and Grendel – The Christianization of Anglo Saxon Heroic Mythology", I corresponded with many Norwgian experts, including Dr. Sven Hoorsviegel and Hoorst Steigenleven – and not once did your name come up.

      May 2, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
    • stephensonbillings

      FAMOUS IN NORWAY!

      May 2, 2012 at 5:06 pm |
  14. God's Oldest Dreamer

    Tallying a good samaritan who knows not God nor "God's Real Kingdom Domains" does not care about today's christendom's manbuilt augmentations of religious conservatories all floating upon the whims of egoisms in rotten emotionalisms! All the social-boats become as many vessels in need of life-vests to be thrown towards the swimmers of ill-fatedness seeking to clamor aboard but from too afar off the mark! Many will drown away their hideousness and social tirades to ever imbibe of the wine to make whineries a practicality commute! Hold down then the wayward childs' unleavenedness!

    May 2, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • Kool Aid

      Drink me. I am refreshing.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:13 pm |
    • just sayin

      Meds man!

      May 2, 2012 at 3:13 pm |
    • The Reynolds Aluminum Company

      We at Reynolds Aluminum wish the public to know that the true reason for conservative pondering is the hats formed from our fine probuct, and not some silly powdery bevorage product made by those idiots at Kraft Foods. Indeed, it is not even the Kool Aid that has any affect on Republicans; it is the supplement added later, which Albert Hoffman invented and marketed by Sandoz Labs, a leader in conservative thought enhancement.

      We at Reynolds are proud of the role our foil plays in the conservative movement, and will not allow posers like Kraft to make false claims about their Kool Aid product.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
    • Primewonk

      Mr. or Ms. Reynolds, and their aluminum company are hereby awarded 432 Internets. Well played Reynolds, well played indeeed.

      May 2, 2012 at 4:24 pm |
    • Kool Aid

      I shun you, tin foil! SHUUUUUUUUUUUN.

      May 2, 2012 at 5:33 pm |
  15. Kebos

    I don't know about founding of the USA but I do know that the christians are having a big hand in destroying it.

    May 2, 2012 at 3:09 pm |
    • God's Oldest Dreamer

      Children of teenaged and just above such ages are today's mustad seeds and in these seeds will rise the tides' amalgums be the frugal or be they bitter, the choices are theirs for to make ends work!

      May 2, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
  16. mandarax

    "What Would Jesus Do about liars?"

    Based on the behavior of his followers, apparently he would applaud them as long as they were lying in his favor.

    May 2, 2012 at 3:07 pm |
  17. 5thApe

    Remember, this is what it takes to be a Christian:

    Definition of Christianity: the belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

    May 2, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Yup

      And don't forget the whole "Mom is a virgin" schtict.

      Thats something you expect to hear in a ghetto playground, NOT from an omnipotent being!

      May 2, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
    • stephensonbillings

      Why are none of my comments appearing? Once again, CNN censors Christian morality in favor of liberal diatribes. I'm not surprised.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:03 pm |
    • lolwut

      At least it doesn't censor your sweeping generalizations.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:04 pm |
    • CNN MOD

      @stephensonbillings – it's because you're a fucking moron and we're out to get you with our liberal agenda.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
    • mandarax

      stephensonbililngs:
      You're Christian persecution complex is showing. No one censors your comments – there is probably a word fragment that resembles profanity in your comment. For example, "inst.itution" has "t.it" in it.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • stephensonbillings

      Can you focus on something for more than a millsecond? We're discussing Dr. David Barton's work and the foundational morality which has made this nation great. I truly fear that if we forget these things, the ugly specter of liberalism will undermine whatever global gravitas we acheived over the last 60 years. Have you people really forgotten the Cold War so easily? Do you truly understand what Obama's radical agenda is aiming us towards? The breadlines in the Soviet Union can be our reality tomorrow if we don't get right with Jesus.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • Kool Aid

      Thank you for drinking me, stephensonbillings. The economy depends on your consumption of delicious, refreshing Kool Aid. I come in a variety of flavors (none of which are socialist).

      May 2, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • WIlliam Demuth

      stephensonbillings

      Your posting is a gem of a proof!

      Just kick a rock, ANY rock, and the odds are a Christian will crawl out from under it.

      My country is real, your God is imaginary!

      Get right with Jesus indeed? My only assumption can be that someone beat you over the head with a Bible when your skull hadn't completely formed yet.

      Your bigoted cult blathering’s have revealed you a fool.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:13 pm |
    • stephensonbillings

      I am going to screen shoot your rare bit of honesty there CNN Moderator, and post it to the Blaze.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
    • Jacques Strappe, World Famous French Ball Juggler

      Stephen... I hate to break this to you but it wasn't really a mod that responded to you. Don't be so gullible. Use your logic and reasoning ability.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • someone buy this fool a clue

      The board isn't moderated, you idiot.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      christian morality – now there is an oxymoron

      May 2, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • WASP

      @billings: so a national health plan that will ensure our sick get treatment means the liberals are leading us to socialism? how stupid of me, yes it much more simple to just hord all the money and let the sick and elderly die. duh...... and making equal taxation would be wrong as well, it's not like we fought a war against a christian dominated nation for equal taxation and representation or anything, that's why we can still see the captian jack still flying over our white house. lmfao it's republican blocking of measures built to help the needy that christians per doctrination are suppose to support; so why attack the people that are trying to help this country treat all equally? the ones leading us to a socialist enviroment are the ones trying to set up laws permitting UNequal treatment of the american popualtion. a socialist country has elite few and poverty spread rampant............hmmmmm which of our political parties does that sound like? i'm certain it's those evil equal treatment wanting liberials. lmfao

      May 2, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
    • just sayin

      Jesus has no bearing on our government. It is a personal choice that each person makes to believe or not believe in the zombie. One good thing about this CNN blog is it revealse the Christian Taliban and Agenda of its evangelicals. They are an enemy of The People and our rights. They are no different than their Muslim brothers.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • C'mon

      stephensonbillings
      "I am going to screen shoot your rare bit of honesty there CNN Moderator, and post it to the Blaze."

      Yeah, and they'll probably believe it too!

      There are NO human moderators on duty on-the-spot here... it is an automatic word filter from wordpress... some people know html tricks to get around it.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • 5thApe

      "The breadlines in the Soviet Union can be our reality tomorrow if we don't get right with Jesus."

      Total delusion. Get right with Jesus. What about get right with Zeus?

      When you understand why YOU reject all other gods, you will understand why I reject yours.

      Jesus is nothing but myth. Grow up.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • 5thApe

      Click on 'stephensonbillings' and see his site. My Zeus, this dude is scary!

      May 2, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • sam

      Damn, that is some serious crazyface stuff going on. I think we should all back away slowly.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
    • Primewonk

      stepehsonbilling wrote, "We're discussing Dr. David Barton's work"

      Wait – I thought we were discussing David Barton from Wallbuilders?

      There's no Dr. David Barton there. The Barton who is at Wallbuilders has a BA in "religious education" from Oral Roberts.

      Sorry. But this cretin has been lying for a very long time.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
    • Oh Yeah

      He might have bought his doctorate from the Universal Life Church for $50.

      May 2, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
    • Lou Sypher

      Jesus H. Fucking Christ! Who the fuck is on duty in the psych ward and left the god damned doors open?

      Paging stephensonbillings. Please return to your cell. We've doubled the padding and cleaned the shit off the walls.

      May 2, 2012 at 4:10 pm |
    • LinCA

      @Jacques Strappe, World Famous French Ball Juggler

      You said, "Don't be so gullible. Use your logic and reasoning ability."
      ROTFLOL

      May 2, 2012 at 7:58 pm |
  18. Chad

    Holy crap...listening to those of you those bashing Barton, a guy you don't even know, and jumping to all sorts of conclusions about history, Christians and conspiracies on how people are trying to make our country a theocracy, just off of reading this article, makes me long for the sanity of religious extremists!

    May 2, 2012 at 2:52 pm |
    • Qwerty Elemeno

      Were you attempting English there?

      May 2, 2012 at 2:53 pm |
    • mandarax

      Barton is not some fresh face on the scene. I suspect that many (most?) of us who are critical were well aware of him before reading this article.

      He has been promoting this kind of crap for years. Professional historians have been pointing out his errors and dishonesty for years. Right wing Christians have been eating it up anyway for years.

      May 2, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
    • momoya

      How much research have you put into this guy, Chad?. A quick look on wikipedia gives you several 'leads' on false statements.. Have you even looked up those few?. And what exactly should be your response (or the christian response) if Barton IS making sh!t up?? Lemme guess, the christian response is to ignore his ra.ping of history because it supports the christian agenda?. Rather than turn him out for lying, they look the other way? I wonder if you and other christians really think your god is fooled by such behavior?

      May 2, 2012 at 2:56 pm |
    • William Demuth

      It has been said that birds of a feather flock together.

      You are a thumper, indoctrinated from youth, and you couldn't see reality if it stood in front of you.

      May 2, 2012 at 2:58 pm |
    • lolwut

      What Would Jesus Do about liars?

      May 2, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
  19. just sayin

    How do you knwo a Christian is lying? Their lips are moving.

    May 2, 2012 at 2:50 pm |
    • stephensonbillings

      Predictable liberalism.

      May 2, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
    • sam

      stephensonbillings isn't sure what that word means, but he heard it on Fox news a few times and decided it's a negative connotation he can put on whatever he doesn't like.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
    • stephensonbillings

      Listen, you can disagree with Hannity and O'Reilly all you want, but they're no denying the guys speak from the gut, with integrity and compassion and a true dedication to saving America from liberal elitists and the socialists.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
    • sam

      @stephensonbillings – LOL X 1000. I'm willing to start a fundraiser to give you a chance to afford to have that tattooed on your ass.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:07 pm |
    • lolwut

      I would agree, they are certainly compassionately dedicated to the delusion.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • just sayin

      Interesting you assume I am a Liberal. LOL You shouldn't assume because you know what that means?

      May 2, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
    • just sayin

      What is also interesting is how the evangelicals have hijacked "conservatives". The Christian Taliban is the one in sheep's clothing in the GOP. I equally detest the Christian Taliban, lefty nuts and socialists.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • LOL Religion

      "Listen, you can disagree with Hannity and O'Reilly all you want, but they're no denying the guys speak from the gut, with integrity and compassion and a true dedication to saving America from liberal elitists and the socialists."

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....gasp...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

      May 2, 2012 at 4:03 pm |
    • mickey1313

      Agreed, but that needs to be expanded to, how do you know a first is lieing? Their lips are moving.

      May 2, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
  20. mandarax

    We've reached a point in American society where we resent and distrust experts (professional historians), and yet celebrate and embrace charlatans (David Barton), a point where facts are not differentiated from opinions, a point where we believe whoever speaks most closely to our pre-existing bias.

    We willingly mistake being told what we already believe for telling the "truth."

    May 2, 2012 at 2:49 pm |
    • just sayin

      In order to ensure faith remains intact, Christians lean toward their bias with blinders and hold their hands to their ears and yell...nananananananananananana

      May 2, 2012 at 2:53 pm |
    • sam

      Rational thought really isn't humanity's forte.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
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