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May 4th, 2012
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  1. kebos

    Buggery of young boys, that's a problem.
    A marriage, no problem.

    May 6, 2012 at 11:16 am |
  2. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things *

    May 6, 2012 at 6:23 am |
    • Jesus

      *~Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!.~!

      May 7, 2012 at 11:07 am |
  3. My Life My Way

    No, priests are not celibate because Jeebus was celibate. They are celibate because it became a problem for the church when the priests children inherited property instead of said property being handed down to the church... That is why they were able to marry for centuries prior!

    May 5, 2012 at 7:55 pm |
    • kebos

      I could believe it. Religion (and especially the Catholic Church) is all about power and wealth.

      May 6, 2012 at 11:19 am |
    • Joe from CT, not Lieberman

      It was around the 7th Century AD that Abbots and Bishops were ordered to not sleep with their wives. That was the Roman rite only. The Celtic, Greek and Syrian Churches hadn't gotten that far yet, but the Greek and Syrian Churches eventually required Bishops and Abbots to be celibate monastics, and the Celtic Church was absorbed into the Roman Church. Priestly celibacy was not mandated until around the 12th century and not enforced until the 14th century.
      When Henry VIII split from Rome, some of the Bishops hoped he would bring the Church in England into the Lutheran teaching, allowing clergy to marry, but Henry surprised them by maintaining the Roman Catholic requirements for clerical celibacy. His argument was with the Bishop of Rome, not the Roman Catholic Church. It wasn't until the Elizabethan reign that Church of England clergy were allowed to marry.

      May 7, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
  4. AGuest9

    It's incredibly ironic that before being married, catholics are required to take "pre-Cana" classes – from men who have never been married.

    May 5, 2012 at 9:11 am |
    • kebos

      Yes, I remember having taken them from a celibate Jesuit priest. The guy was actually a good speaker. But it did strike me as odd to be getting advice from someone with no direct experience as a married person.

      May 6, 2012 at 11:21 am |
    • Joe from CT, not Lieberman

      Mine was by a Navy Chaplain who had a more realistic view of what life was like outside those Church walls.

      May 7, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
  5. Prayer changes things

    Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    May 5, 2012 at 7:08 am |
    • Jesus

      "Prayer changes things"

      ~Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!.~!

      May 7, 2012 at 11:07 am |
  6. b4bigbang

    Hey everybody, the scientific survey says that the younger top scientists are more likely to attend religious services than the older ones and the researcher thinks it could be a trend ind icating a future increase in religious top scientists!

    http://phys.org/news102700045.html

    Right there – last paragraph.

    May 5, 2012 at 1:09 am |
    • momoya

      More likely... could be... indicate...

      Cool.. Actually, I'm all in favor of scientists attending religious services.. Hopefully most of them will retain their intellectual honesty and evaluate "spiritual" matter with the same techniques as they investigate physical matter.. lol

      May 5, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
  7. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    May 4, 2012 at 7:29 pm |
  8. catholic engineer

    It's appalling how many people, particularly women and girls, have been molested in some way by their fathers or other relatives. The public already knows this. And yet the public insists that marriage will eliminate these problems.

    May 4, 2012 at 3:43 pm |
    • EvolvedDNA

      CE..and if cases are reported they are dealt with and investigated by the authorities and folks go to jail, or teachers fired... you are still trying to deflect the appalling actions of the so called church of christ to protect its own image.

      May 4, 2012 at 8:11 pm |
    • Cold Hard TRUTH

      catholic engineer. Why are you a catholic when it's a proven fact that the catholic cult corporation is behind every child raping that occurs on the planet? Nevermind. I think we all know the answer to that question. You are a registered offender.

      May 5, 2012 at 1:02 am |
  9. catholic engineer

    "Priests being 'allowed' to marry." Stating the issue this way is thought engineering. Every priest freely chooses celebacy (at ordination, that is). The churches forces nothing on the priest.
    I also find it entertaining that the general public thinks that priests should be "allowed" to marry. The general public has a 60% divorce rate.

    May 4, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • momoya

      So because 60% of marriages end in divorce "the public" can't have an opinion on marriage?!? LOLOLOL!!!

      May 4, 2012 at 4:11 pm |
    • EvolvedDNA

      CE. Even through folks get divorced, they still find an outlet for their natural human desires, and can easily live with another human being if they wish....would this be the same for your priests ?

      May 4, 2012 at 8:03 pm |
  10. God's Oldest Dreamer

    The prawns and shelled fish will always be an afront to lambastions consecrative inuendos!

    May 4, 2012 at 12:53 pm |
    • Huebert

      For the Horseshoe Crabs of Vengeance shall arisingly take the poultry of enlightenment from the fingerisms of the illuminatory establishmentarianist.

      May 4, 2012 at 1:06 pm |
    • Mitt Romney

      Bite the wax tadpole! Froot Loops!! Froot Loops!!

      That doesn't seem to be getting me votes either. I really have to tell you: it is very hard getting elected president of the most powerful country on earth when you are as repellant as I am.

      May 4, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
    • God's Oldest Dreamer

      Or maybe the "Crab Nebula" might swoon in upon the lots of degeneralcies engenderings bewailing those who cry out "Uncle"! The Way is now clearer and the game is afoot yet the challenges keep putting assunder the trued believers of Modern Shakespearianisms' use and uses of the timely Word!

      May 4, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
  11. momoya

    Thank you for not doing s3x with children, mr. priest, and thank you for your honest expose' of the pedo problems.

    May 4, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
  12. boocat

    So what....centuries ago, even popes were married WITH CHILDREN. The RCC is nothing but a hypocritical scam operation run by snake oil salesmen.

    May 4, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
  13. Heather

    The Bible talks of marriage, but not of celibacy. John the Baptist's father, Zacharias was a priest and he was married to Elizabeth. It's very odd that the Catholic Church would not allow their clergy to marry. It appears celibacy is a recipe for disaster in the church.

    May 4, 2012 at 12:03 pm |
    • Eric

      And yet they claim to follow the Bible's teachings. They ought to sit down and seriously review all of their doctrine and rigorously compare/contrast it against what the New Testament teaches and declares as truth.

      May 4, 2012 at 12:52 pm |
    • AverageJoe_Catholic

      Priests, religious, and seminarians are celibate because Jesus was celibate. As was St. Paul. Read 1 Corinthians 7 before you accuse Catholics of not reading the Bible. We gave the book to Protestants in the first place. We know our own book.

      May 4, 2012 at 11:50 pm |
    • Joe from CT, not Lieberman

      AC Joe, Jesus was often referred to as Rabbi. In the Second Temple period, a man could not be considered a Rabbi if he was unmarried, unless he was declared a Nazarene (like Samson from the Book of Judges) by his parents at the time of his birth. However, the restrictions on Nazarenes included the prohibition from any form or ritual defilement (including hanging out with Gentiles and lepers), without going through a 6-month repurification. That is why I do not believe Jesus was celibate. Likely candidate? Miriam (Mary) the sister of Lazarus.

      May 7, 2012 at 2:30 pm |
  14. MennoKnight

    The same thing happened to one of my father's childhood best friends about ten years ago. He was a priest for about 25 years, fell in love with a nun and they got secretly married. They then came clean after a year or so and had to leave the church.
    How sad.
    Most Roman Catholics do not know that celibacy was NOT the norm for the first 1100 years of the church's history. Peter had a mother-in-law, (Mt 8:14) that means he was married.

    I love my Roman Catholic brothers and sisters, but they need to use scripture as their guild for Christian living not tradition. This is coming form a Mennonite who struggles with the same thing just in different ways.

    May 4, 2012 at 11:58 am |
  15. Reality

    I hear half the RCC priests in South America are married and/or have girl friends.

    May 4, 2012 at 11:41 am |
    • Mitt Romney Wears His Tie To Bed

      They do indeed! And in ten years or so, those girl friends will grow up to be women friends.

      Rush Limbaugh likes to visit those countries secretly.

      May 4, 2012 at 11:50 am |
  16. J.R.

    the gilgamec "virginia" is 6 feet wide and filled with razor sharp teeth. You expect us to make l0ve to that?

    May 4, 2012 at 11:37 am |
  17. Jacques Strappe, World Famous French Ball Juggler

    If it keeps him from molesting little boys, go for it.

    May 4, 2012 at 11:28 am |
  18. Paris Hilton's Nobel Prize Winning Theory On Particle Physics

    Breaking CNN News: Australian priest reveals secret marriage. Bride's name is Little Billy McGinty.

    May 4, 2012 at 11:21 am |
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