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Your Take: Comments and responses on National Day of Prayer
Stephen Prothero argues that the National Day of Prayer isn't just for Christians.
May 4th, 2012
01:03 PM ET

Your Take: Comments and responses on National Day of Prayer

Editor's Note: Stephen Prothero, a Boston University religion scholar and author of "God is Not One: The Eight Rival Religions that Run the World," is a regular CNN Belief Blog contributor.

By Stephen Prothero, Special to CNN

My public letter to God on how we should pray on America’s National Day of Prayer drew over 4000 comments on Thursday. Many were the online equivalent of the courtship displays the wild turkeys are doing in my yard this week — gobbling on behalf of Christianity or atheism. But some were less driven by impulse and instinct.

Many commenters accused me of irreverence. “Bill” called my letter “a cheap literary trick” full of “sarcasm and disrespect.” “I wonder if you would address Him so flippantly if he were standing in front of you?” “Ron from Jersey” said I showed “no respect or understanding of the personal and loving god of Judeo-Christian belief.”

It seems to me, however, that those who are showing disrespect for God are those who claim to divine precisely what God believes about politics or prayer.

I cut my teeth as a graduate student studying New England’s Puritans, and when they approached God (in prayer or otherwise) they did so with a healthy measure of fear. Yes, they believed God loved them. But they also believed there was a huge gap — an "infinite qualitative distinction" in the words of theologian Karl Barth — between sinful humans and the omniscient God. So out of respect for God's sovereignty they would never presume to know exactly what God was thinking about anything.

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“JC in Western U.S.” channeled the spirit of these Puritans (and of Barth) when he wrote, “If there is a God, and if He is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient, it would be the height of arrogance for any mere human to claim to know His will.”

Channeling a very different spirit, many commenters claimed that my question had an easy answer. “Me” wrote: “Dear Stephen, Asked and Answered. Look up Matthew 6:5-13.”

For those who do not have a Bible close at hand, “Me” was pointing to the Lord’s Prayer. And many other comments said that the "Our Father" is the prayer we Americans should pray on our National Day of Prayer.

But this very passage from the Sermon on the Mount begins with these words from Jesus:

“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father.”

Picking up on this theme, “Maine Liberal” wrote, “Christ taught us to pray in private,” so we should keep our prayer out of schools and legislatures and off of the streets.

One of the most common comments was that Jesus is God so we should pray to Him. Or, as a different “Matthew” put it: “USA is a Christian country and we should pray to Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour. Period."

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But this response begs the question, side-stepping the challenge my piece was written to present. I know how Christians pray. My question was: How should we, as citizens, pray in a country in which some are Christian and many are not?

Assume for a minute that conservative Christians are right. Assume there is one God and that this God is best described in Trinitarian terms as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Even if true, this theological reality does not change the demographic fact that millions upon millions of Americans are Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims and non-believers. It does not tell us how U.S. citizens should pray on our National Day of Prayer.

From its creation, the United States has wrestled with this problem of how to engage in God talk without dividing the nation. And it seems to me that the great generations that preceded us came up with a fairly good solution to this difficult problem.

In other words, while many comments accused me of being a liberal, on this question I am a conservative. I want to conserve what I see as a grand compromise in U.S. history — a wise tradition in which God is invoked yet not explicitly described. Simultaneously, I want to resist two relatively recent innovations: efforts to banish God from the public square, and efforts to turn public talk of God into public talk of Christ.

I understand the frustrations of the atheists who flood the comment boards of CNN’s Belief Blog every day. I sympathize with “Voice of Reason” who called for a “National Do Not Pray Day” and with “William Demuth” who said we should “forget prayer” and do good instead: “Pick up some trash . . . Feed someone who is hungry.”

But a public square stripped of all references to religion has never been the American way. Traditionally, our response to the religious (and non-religious) diversity in our midst has been to allow for God talk in American politics, but to keep that talk generic and to keep it to a minimum.

This grand compromise strikes me as wise. The atheist furor in the United States today is not responding for the most part to this tradition. It is responding to a quite recent anti-traditional innovation—an effort to make our God talk explicitly Christian (or Judeo-Christian) and to place that particular form of faith front and center in American public life.

This innovation strikes me as disrespectful to those in our midst who do not believe in God or who call God by some other name than Jesus Christ. It also strikes me as unwise and impolitic.

Striking a theme of many commenters yesterday, "ambersue" wrote, "Today is National Day of Prayer and it is for those who believe in Jesus Christ as their Savior. This day is for Him, and Him alone." To which "NC" responded: "yep, I guess the rest of us don't exist anymore."

See the problem? If you do, you understand what I was trying to say yesterday in my open letter to God.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Stephen Prothero.

- CNN Belief Blog contributor

Filed under: Christianity • Church and state • Culture wars • Opinion • Politics • Prayer • United States

soundoff (266 Responses)
  1. Mark

    CNN really needs to shut this comment down. It is on here EVERY day. While I consider it stupid and abusive, it contains no abusive language. IT STILL QUALIFIES AS ABUSE!!!! Come on CNN, I know I am not alone in this. CNN should contact the local authorities of whoever keeps sending this and have somebody check up on this person. It's sad that a person continues to put this on every article in the blog, (it shows a great weakness of mind, and very probable mental illness.) It is reprehensible that CNN allows this to be posted day after day, time and time again.

    May 14, 2012 at 9:15 am |
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    May 9, 2012 at 1:40 pm |
  3. Shocked!!

    "My public letter to God on how we should pray on America’s National Day of Prayer drew over 4000 comments on Thursday."

    Ah, okay.

    May 8, 2012 at 6:05 am |
  4. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    May 6, 2012 at 6:22 am |
    • danielwalldammit

      And yet you'd rather place your faith in trolling.

      May 7, 2012 at 1:12 am |
    • Jesus

      ~Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!.~!

      May 7, 2012 at 11:05 am |
    • Betty

      you – prayer changes you.

      May 9, 2012 at 8:48 am |
  5. lastofall

    Sorry, but this is a secular worldly endeavor, and is not at all the truth according to God. It is a result of secular minded overseers supposing that worldly styles of doing things are what believers ought to do as well: National Day of This or That, and so on. With God every day is to those who actually believe the day of prayer, and any other arrangement is not of God.

    May 6, 2012 at 2:32 am |
  6. The family that prays together stays together!
    May 5, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      No, it doesn't. There are millions of families that went to church every Sunday, said grace at the table and prayers at bedtime, and have been completely destroyed by illness, death, bankruptcy, poverty, drug abuse, alcoholism, and the like.

      Prayer doesn't fix anything.

      May 5, 2012 at 9:39 pm |
    • AGuest9

      I've seen several catholic and baptist families destroyed by divorce, and one jewish family. Your assertion proves nothing.

      May 5, 2012 at 9:46 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I know of a Mennonite family-one of the daughters had at least two abortions.

      What's that tell you?

      May 5, 2012 at 9:51 pm |
    • My take on your take

      If families truly prayed together they would have stayed together in
      sickness or in health
      in good times and in bad times
      in life and in death

      May 5, 2012 at 9:54 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      More of the same poo piled higher and deeper. There's no evidence that prayer makes families stronger or healthier.

      May 5, 2012 at 9:56 pm |
    • Chad

      The family that prays together stays together!

      amen, amen.!!!

      May 5, 2012 at 10:04 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      What would YOU know about it, Chard?

      Prove that such a statement is fact.

      Oh, wait. Never mind; it's you... you won't back up a single thing you post with a single fact that's verifiable.

      May 5, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
    • mandarax

      Not that you guys are ever swayed by facts, but If the citizens are grouped as per their religious beliefs, then the following results are obtained.

      Divorce rate in percent
      Agnostics and Athiests 21
      Other Christians 24
      Born-again Christians 27
      Jews 30

      The various denominations can be summarized as follows:
      Denomination Divorce rate in percent
      Lutheran 21
      Catholic 21
      Presbyterian 23
      Methodist 26
      Pentecostal 28
      Episcopal 28
      Baptist 29
      Non-denominational 34

      Oh well, so much for those BS religious claims about prayer.

      May 5, 2012 at 10:45 pm |
    • mandarax

      BTW, here's the source for that info (note that it is neither a religious nor anti-religious site):
      h t t p : / / divorcerate2011.co m/divorce-statistics/divorce-rate-by-age-or-religion

      May 5, 2012 at 10:49 pm |
    • AGuest9

      Actually, mandarax, I'm surprised that catholics are among the lower percentage.

      May 5, 2012 at 10:50 pm |
    • mandarax

      AGuest, I don't know that many Catholics, I guess, but I live in a snakes den of born-agains and I have honestly never before seen the amount of cheating and affairs that I have seen since moving to this Bible Belt town.

      May 5, 2012 at 11:00 pm |
    • Prayer!

      The root claim apparently is not about christian families staying together.Read and grasp the message.
      The claim is a family that PRAYS together stays together.

      Atheists are so just so slow to understand that is why undestanding GOD is such a challenge for them. Get it!

      May 6, 2012 at 7:32 am |
    • masherwould

      I am a Christian and wish this simplistic saying were true. I think the meaning is that a family that puts their whole heart into praying together will stay close. Obviously, there is a level of sincerity and a lack of hypocrisy necessary. Too many families and Christians fail that test.

      I'm not sure about the statistics, but they are probably true. The facts can be twisted though, and one obvious fact is that among non-religious couples, many people don't bother to get married (and hence don't get "divorced" when they split up.

      Either way, there is no valid excuse for the high rate of Christians getting divorced, cheating, and splitting up their families. If both spouses stayed true to their faith, this would never happen.

      May 8, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
  7. Haime52

    Each "citizen" or resident should pray their own conscience( or lack thereof). Pray or don't to whomever or whatever. One believes in one god, another in a different god, yet another in their ancestors and some believe in......nothing. Praying can do no harm and might do some good. There is more to this universe of ours than we can possibly know, in the forseeable future.

    May 5, 2012 at 8:09 pm |
  8. matilda

    When King Jesus Christ was on earth to teach mankind about God the Father and show sinful man, God's way, he, Jesus, said that in order for God the father to hear the "prayers of men", they must "come through him, Jesus, because he is mankind's "mediator"( John 14:6; 1 Timothy 2:1-7. Hebrews 7:20-25, Romans 8:26-39), and all "prayers or supplications made to God the Father, must be in the "Name of Jesus"( John 16:23-24), in order for "requests to be fulfilled". If a person or persons does not "pray to God the Father, and end their prayer or supplication in the 'name of Jesus', they are not honoring the Son of the living God( John 5:22-23). Therefore, God the Father will not "honor your prayer by listening to it, because you did not honor the name of Jesus, His Son. God does not "hear the prayers of the wicked"( Proverbs 15:8-9), however, the "effective ferverent prayers of a righteous man, can open the doors of heaven"( James 5:13-20), and his or her "prayer or supplication, enters the room of the 'throne of grace'( Hebrews 4:14-16). The "National Day of Prayer" is a waste of time for the wicked( the world of unbelievers in Jesus Christ). John 3:16-22

    May 5, 2012 at 7:48 pm |
  9. Prayer changes things

    Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things.

    May 5, 2012 at 6:03 pm |
    • Jesus

      "Prayer changes things"

      ~Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!.~!

      May 7, 2012 at 11:06 am |
  10. Denise

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPOfurmrjxo&w=640&h=360]

    May 5, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
    • Bennett

      Every American should watch that.

      May 5, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
    • Hitchens

      Watched some Carlin the other night, was amazed at how unfunny he actually was. Poor dead used to be guy.

      May 5, 2012 at 6:02 pm |
    • PRISM 1234

      George Carlin KNOWS now.... He's got his proof.....

      May 5, 2012 at 8:53 pm |
    • AGuest9

      How could he "KNOW" something? HE'S DEAD!

      May 5, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
  11. Chad

    "Stephen Prothero argues that the National Day of Prayer isn't just for Christians"

    =>Prothero continues his assault on the God of Abraham...

    – If the God of Abraham is real, the other "gods" are not.
    – The National Day of Prayer was instituted as a day to pray to the God of Abraham
    – By attempting to strip this day of it's original meaning, Prothero is trying to turn this day into a day of "think about your various make believe "gods"". He's trying to say "the Judeo/Christian God of Abraham is no different than the "god of mother earth".. "everyone has their own "god", lets make this day about acknowledging that... This day is about "spirituality", not a real supernatural being."

    Remind me again how an atheist can be a "Boston University religion scholar"?

    Remind me again what you're going to say to Jesus when you meet Him Steve?

    May 5, 2012 at 11:25 am |
    • God's Oldest Dreamer

      SSssOOooooo,,,,,,,,,,,, , The God of Adam and Eve isn't the very first God? Why should one convert such to obviscerate toward another biblical god when the very 1st God of the people is the God of Adam and Eve? Get with it people!

      May 5, 2012 at 11:40 am |
    • momoya

      Chad, go to the library and check out a book on critical reasoning.. It's like you're speaking a foreign language by subst.ituting the correct words but ignoring the grammar that give the phrases have proportional meaning.

      May 5, 2012 at 12:15 pm |
    • mandarax

      Chad, I can't tell you what Steve won't say (he'll be dead) when he doesn't meet Jesus, but I can remind you how an atheist can be a Boston University religion scholar. It's simple: you don't have to be a Christian or even a believer to know about religion. As a matter of fact, a number of surveys have shown that on average atheists know more about religion than do believers. Furthermore, you also don't have to be a Roman to be a Roman scholar, you don't have to be a fish to be an ichthyologist, and you don't have to be a rock to be a geologist.

      Climb out from behind your blinders, Chad, there's a whole universe to enjoy. And here's the good news: the universe becomes even more thrilling, amazing, and spectacular when you stop attributing everything to a magical puppeteer and actually learn about how it works.

      May 5, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
    • God's Oldest Dreamer

      mandarax,,,,,,,,,,,, ,

      The main ingredients to convolute the treasured troves of otherly beliefs in their idealized renditionings of God are as idiocratic malignancies to all socialists' disfigurmentationalisms!

      May 5, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
    • Jyohnny Blammo

      While I not terribly amazed by Mr. Prothero's writing, he's a Nobel candidate for literature when compared to Chad.

      Here is what H. L. Mencken had to say about people like Chad and Mark from Middle River and Nii and the heavensentprayertroll:

      “Most people are unable to write because they are unable to think, and they are unable to think because they congenitally lack the equipment to do so, just as they congenitally lack the equipment to fly over the moon.”

      May 5, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • Rick

      When stevie meets Jesus he will have no excuses for having turned a blind eye all these valuable years of his life. Poor stevie will not have belief blog backing him and does not even realize that day is drawing nigh.

      May 5, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Chad – regarding: 'Remind me again how an atheist can be a "Boston University religion scholar"?'

      So Chad, you seem to indicate that belief is required prior to knowledge. Have you considered that this may be one of your fundamental problems?

      May 5, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
    • Chad

      @momoya "but ignoring the grammar that give the phrases have proportional meaning"

      🙂
      hunh? couldn't resist pointing that out..

      May 5, 2012 at 5:45 pm |
    • Chad

      @mandarax "..As a matter of fact, a number of surveys have shown that on average atheists know more about religion than do believers. "

      =>ok then, I dare all you atheists to write up in 5 sentences what Christianity is all about. Should be easy to demonstrate a fundamental knowledge, right?

      😉

      May 5, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
    • mandarax

      Sorry, Chad. Even Christians will give you different answers to your questions. That's the thing – since there is no empirical basis for faith there is no basis for evaluating who is more correct. And why do you presume to be the authority on whose version is correct?

      Remember that old fallback line: if that Christian disagrees with me they are not a "real" Christian.

      May 5, 2012 at 6:26 pm |
    • Chad

      @mandarax "Sorry, Chad. Even Christians will give you different answers to your questions"

      well that's nonsense, the differences between denominations is on finer doctrinal differences.
      but in any case, give me any version, any at all.

      your failure to do so demonstrates my point.. you dont have any understanding at all of what the Biblical narrative is, what the basis of Christianity is. You're just dodging, blowing smoke 😉

      May 5, 2012 at 6:31 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      No, Chard, it isn't "nonsense". If it were, there would be no board like this one and no disagreements among theologians.

      And really, what would you know about it? You're so stupid you think one must believe to study religion.

      May 5, 2012 at 6:34 pm |
    • Chad

      @Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son "No, Chard, it isn't "nonsense". If it were, there would be no board like this one and no disagreements among theologians"

      => this board is about atheists arguing with Christians primarily, I challenge you to find one thread on here that has two Christians arguing different theology.. you can't and you won't 😉

      =>differences between theologians are on finer points, none having to do with the central Christian message.

      =>You are speaking as if you understand some of these differences, I call you a faker 😉
      You can demonstrate my statement is inaccurate by articulating the difference (without looking it up somewhere and cutting and pasting, in plain english) the difference between Calvinism and Arminianism

      May 5, 2012 at 6:40 pm |
    • mandarax

      Chad, there are two reasons I will not take you up on your challenge – neither of which have anything to do with not understanding Christianity (I believe my 18 years of sunday school gave me a perfectly adequate understanding).

      1) I have no desire to be quizzed or tested by you. I have nothing to prove to you, and frankly the idea of you evaluating my response as if you were some kind of educator is absurd. I doubt you are qualified.

      2) More importantly, because I do understand Christianity I know that you are trying to draw me or anyone else into a discussion where you have an excuse to "witness" to me and everyone who might read it. No thanks – I've had my fill and I try not to offer that platform to anyone out to proselytize.

      I would say something along the lines of "good luck with another victim" but that would be disingenuous. I don't wish you luck with that, I wish that you and others like you would keep your chicanery to yourselves.

      May 5, 2012 at 7:12 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      I don't need 5 sentences – I can do it in one. Christianity is an outdated superst!tiion about an alledged god and his alledged son that has no basis in reality and as such, should be dismissed without further discussion, although the idea that one should treat others as they would wish to be treated does have merit, recognizing that this sentiment is not unique to christianity or their mystical book The Babble.

      May 5, 2012 at 7:25 pm |
    • Chad

      @mandarax " there are two reasons I will not take you up on your challenge – neither of which have anything to do with not understanding Christianity"

      =>ah, the old "I could, but I don't want to"..

      I thought that was a devastating comeback in my earlier years..

      but, then I got to second grade and I started to learn that it was just a dodge 😉

      May 5, 2012 at 7:51 pm |
    • Chad

      @HotAirAce "Christianity is an outdated superst!tiion about an alledged god and his alledged son that has no basis in reality and as such"

      =>fascinating that atheists have no thought whatsover that they need to understand something prior to condemning it..

      thoughts on what that says about the atheist?

      May 5, 2012 at 7:55 pm |
    • mandarax

      Chad, I'm glad to see that in the wisdom of your later years, you have graduated to taunting. The ridiculousness of your response stands as reason No. 3 that I'm not taking the bait.

      May 5, 2012 at 7:58 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Chad, you are a complete fucking idiot with no cognitive skills – you suggested that I wrote something without thinking. I condemn christianity *because* I understand it! As before, there is not one single objective, factual, verifiable independent bit of evidence for it. In any other subject area, the proponents of such a ludicrous tale would be laughed into an insane asylum. It is only because religion continues to get a "free pass" that it, and religious wingnuts like you, are tolerated at all.

      May 5, 2012 at 8:28 pm |
    • Chad

      @mandarax "...You have graduated to taunting.."

      well, you have to admit, you earned it with that disingenuous "I could but I dont want to" nonsense 😉

      I have met a few (two to be exact) atheists that were really knowledgeable about cosmology, biology, paleontology.
      but
      I have never, ever, ever met an atheist that was knowledgeable about the content of the bible.
      never

      never met one. .every single atheist I have ever met, had not even a basic understanding of the biblical narrative. Couldnt even articulate basic concepts such as the old covenant and the new covenanat.
      completely biblically illiterate.

      And that's the single most astonishing thing. Atheists feel so strongly about something they know nothing about.. weird?

      May 5, 2012 at 8:40 pm |
    • Chad

      @HotAirAce "I condemn christianity *because* I understand it!"

      =>I dont believe you, I think you are full of hot air 😉
      prove me wrong by summarizing the old and new covenants.

      May 5, 2012 at 8:49 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Chad, I am not going to waste my time on the details of your silly belief system when it fails absolutely at the macro level. Until *you* prove the basics (i.e. there is a god and the jesus story is not a myth), there is no point in playing your game.

      May 5, 2012 at 8:52 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Chard, you can demand whatever you want, honey, but it will gain you nothing. People on here know you'e a dolt. They've known it since you first posted.

      May 5, 2012 at 8:56 pm |
    • Chad

      @HotAirAce " I am not going to waste my time on the details of your silly belief system when it fails absolutely at the macro level"

      =>thanks for demonstrating my point perfectly!

      atheists are the only group of people on the planet that feel it's perfectly acceptable to criticize/condemn a historical narrative they are completely unfamiliar with.

      May 5, 2012 at 9:04 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      As compared with morons like you who actually think the Bible is factual.

      Doob.

      May 5, 2012 at 9:05 pm |
    • No Truth, Just Claims

      Chad,

      List one belief that all Christians agree on.

      May 5, 2012 at 9:06 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Ahahhaha. Are you kidding? Chad can't even tie his own shoes.

      May 5, 2012 at 9:07 pm |
    • Chad

      @No Truth, Just Claims "List one belief that all Christians agree on."

      =>Jesus Christ is the Son of God
      =>Jesus Christ was crucified, buried and was resurrected on the third day
      =>Jesus Christ is the atoning sacrifice for our sins.

      that you didnt realize these basic truth's are shared by all Christians says you have absolutely no understanding whatsoever of Christianity..

      May 5, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Chad, you continue to demosnstrate you are completely delusional and cannot read. The Babble has the same status in fact as a Harry Potter novel. I do not need to study a Harry Potter novel in depth and be able to discuss every paragraph to be eligible to say it is fiction. The Babble is fiction. Discussing each book, chapter, paragraph, etc. of The Babble as if it is real is a stupid exercise. You are merely hacking over the rules to a fantasy role playing game. You are living in a delusional world in my opinion. I leave lots of room for anyone to prove that their cult's myths are real, but no one (NO ONE!) has ever proven that the basis of their myth is true. You contintually dodge this essential requirement by asking stupid questions. I, nor any atheist, has to prove anything to a believer. The burden of proof is on you and your fellow believers.

      May 5, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "Truth's"? REALLY? You're SUCH a scholar and yet you can't figure out how to make a noun plural? You're a friggin' moron, Chard. You can't help but prove it in every post. Why would anyone have the slightest respect for your scholarship when you're a functional illiterate?

      May 5, 2012 at 9:19 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Chad, those are not proven truths. They are claims by a particular cult. Other cults (Islam) claim contradictory things, with equal validity. Why do you believe your claims are more valid than others? Why are they valid at all?

      May 5, 2012 at 9:20 pm |
    • No Truth, Just Claims

      Chad,

      Not all Christians believe those......try again.

      May 5, 2012 at 9:27 pm |
    • Chad

      person1: "You are an idiot"
      person2: "er.. no I'm not. what exactly is your evidence for that statement"

      person1: "I dont have to prove you are an idiot, you have to prove you arent"

      person2: "er.. I dont think have a clear understanding of the way burden of proof works.. You see, you made an assertion, you said I was an idiot. Since you are making the assertion, you have the burden of proof. Get it?"

      person1: "normally that would be true, in fact, in every other assertion that is ever made, that is true. However, this particular assertion is unique. Since I am the one calling you an idiot, you have the burden of proof to prove you arent"

      person2: "er.. no.. that's not the way it works. If you want to play that way, I say you are an idiot until you prove otherwise"

      person1: "LOLOLOLOL wow.. are you telling me that you dont how the burden of proof works!! oh my goodness, what an idiot you are. Look nitwit, since you are the one making the assertion, you have the burden of proof.. get it?? what a retard..

      person2: "ah.. ok, I see now.."

      😉

      May 5, 2012 at 9:33 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      No scholar of any stripe would be incapable of figuring out how to make nouns plural or fail to grasp the simplest concepts of grammar, Chard.

      You're just a silly little boy.

      May 5, 2012 at 9:34 pm |
    • Chad

      @No Truth, Just Claims "Not all Christians believe those......try again."

      =>name a Christian denomination that doesnt

      you won't... you'll bluster on about something else.. which proves my point

      May 5, 2012 at 9:35 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Where did he claim a DENOMINATION didn't believe those tenets, ya boob? He said that not all Christians believe those tenets. Can you prove they do? Go right ahead, honey.

      May 5, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
    • Chad

      @HotAirAce "...The Babble is fiction. ..."

      =>if you are completely unfamiliar with it, how credible is your viewpoint? 😉

      May 5, 2012 at 9:38 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      If you can't write a simple sentence, how valid is yours, Chard?

      May 5, 2012 at 9:40 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Shame you went to some third-rate Babble Cow College, Chard.

      May 5, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Chad, again your brain does not comprehend what your eyes see. You are so delusional in your beliefs, everything is filtered to meet your expecations, not what is actually presented to you. I am *not" completely unfamiliar with The Babble. I was forced to go to Sunday School for many, many years. As I matured, The Babble made less and less sense. I now believe, as many others do, that it is fiction. Plus, you nor any other believer has proven it to be true. You continue to "duck and dive" to avoid answering real questions about the foundation of your myths. I will not answer another of your silly questions until you definitively prove the existance of your god and the truth of the jesus myth. If you cannot, you will have to admit that there is a non-zero probability (more correctly, probably almost 100% certainity) that your god does not exist.

      May 5, 2012 at 11:06 pm |
    • mandarax

      Chad, I think it was Daniel Dennett who said that one doesn't need to have a sophisticated knowledge of Italian leathers, a background in advanced tailoring techniques, and an appreciation for varieties of fine silks in order to recognize that the emperor isn't wearing any clothes.

      Just in case you don't get it, that means that one doesn't need to be well read in theological doctrine in order to see right through the myths in the first place.

      May 5, 2012 at 11:08 pm |
    • momoya

      Thanks for pointing out my mistake, Chad.. I am always on the lookout for way to improve.. Have you been having a tough go of it, here?. It'd be kinda nice if you had had some proof, wouldn't it/. Good luck.. Carry on.

      May 5, 2012 at 11:38 pm |
    • Chad

      @HotAirAce "You are so delusional in your beliefs, everything is filtered to meet your expecations, not what is actually presented to you."
      @Chad "You actually havent "presented" anything, all you repeatedly say is "The bible is a fable". That's not data, right?

      How is it even possible for you to actually present anything? You said yourself that you aren't going to waste time with the belief system, you have no knowledge of it to present anything, right?

      You are criticizing beliefs that you are not familiar with at all? Is that nuts or what?

      =========
      @HotAirAce " I am *not" completely unfamiliar with The Babble. I was forced to go to Sunday School for many, many years. As I matured, The Babble made less and less sense. I now believe, as many others do, that it is fiction. "
      @Chad "you yourself said "I am not going to waste my time on the details of your silly belief system – HotAirAce

      I guess it all depends on what your definition of "completely unfamiliar" is, but again, if you have even a rudimentary understanding you should be able to easily enumerate the old and new covenants..
      but, you can't?
      odd?

      atheism is not based on understanding, it's based on ignorance. Any person that can confidently say these two things completely proves the point:
      @HotAirAce "I am not going to waste my time on the details of your silly belief system"
      @HotAirAce "Christianity is an outdated superst!tiion about an alledged god and his alledged son that has no basis in reality and as such, should be dismissed without further discussion"

      =========
      @HotAirAce "You continue to "duck and dive" to avoid answering real questions about the foundation of your myths"
      @Chad "Give me one example of a question I have ducked, one.
      you won't
      because there isnt one..
      but you'll continue to say that, despite that fact.. weird.

      May 5, 2012 at 11:55 pm |
    • Chad

      @momoya Thanks for pointing out my mistake, Chad."

      =>I couldn't help it, my own grammar/punctuation is so atrocious I had to take advantage of the opportunity.

      May 5, 2012 at 11:57 pm |
    • Chad

      @mandarax "I think it was Daniel Dennett who said that one doesn't need to have a sophisticated knowledge of Italian leathers, a background in advanced tailoring techniques, and an appreciation for varieties of fine silks in order to recognize that the emperor isn't wearing any clothes."
      @Chad "no, but you DO have to look at the emperor to know that he/she isn't wearing any clothes.. right?
      You have to do some investigation, right?

      ===========
      @mandarax "Just in case you don't get it, that means that one doesn't need to be well read in theological doctrine in order to see right through the myths in the first place.
      @chad "finer points of theological doctrine is one thing, claiming that the bible is a fable while lacking even a basic understanding of the biblical narrative is an atrocious intellectual error.

      right?

      May 6, 2012 at 12:01 am |
    • mandarax

      Right?

      Nope.

      May 6, 2012 at 12:05 am |
    • HotAirAce

      Chad, I will try to make this simple for you. You have been repeatedly asked for proof of your, or any, god, and to prove the jesus myth is true. You have never answered these questions. So, please provide proof or shut the fuck up! Now, I expect your will say that I did not ask a question, so I will rephrase:

      Chad, what proof do you have for your belief in a god and jesus? Please be specific and factual – your are being asked to provide factual, objective, verifiable and independent evidence for your claims. No ducking and diving.

      If you prove your claims, I will be happy to discuss the finer points of The Babble.

      May 6, 2012 at 1:17 am |
    • Penn Jillette

      If every trace of any single religion were wiped out and nothing were passsed on, it would never be created exactly that way again. There might be some other nonsense in its place, but not that exact nonsense. If all of science were wiped out, it would still be true and someone would find a way to figure it all out again.

      May 6, 2012 at 1:28 am |
    • Chad

      @HotAirAce Chad, I will try to make this simple for you. You have been repeatedly asked for proof of your, or any, god, and to prove the jesus myth is true. You have never answered these questions.
      @Chad "Well, that's just nonsense. As I have said dozens and dozens of times here is some conclusive evidence:

      1. The scientifically required necessity of an uncaused cause at the origin of the universe. The universe is expanding in all directions and cooling. Going backwards there was a point in time when the universe had infinite heat and density. Prior to this point in time (labeled a singularity) there was nothing. Not “something”, nothing. Science tells us that ALL matter and even time itself was CREATED at that point of rapid expansion. What caused this? What created everything from nothing? By definition whatever caused this expansion could not have itself had a prior cause (the infinite regression problem). Whatever caused it must have always existed. That is what physicists call the “uncaused cause”

      Atheists who dont want to believe in an uncaused cause, are stuck with either the problem of an infinite regression, or the problem of the universe being created out of nothing, by nothing.
      Atheists who do believe in an uncaused cause but don't believe it is a personal god, are stuck with the issue of having an ent ity creating the universe, but after that taking no interest in it, which would be really weird..

      2. The phenomenal preciseness of the “big bang” expansion which was required to allow stars/planets to form. It didn’t just randomly explode, rather it expanded in such a precise manner that an infinitesimal change would have rendered a universe where matter was so spread out no formation of stars could have possibly occurred.

      Atheists are stuck with the “well, even though it was fantastically improbable to have happened, it somehow did!”

      3. The fact that the universe obeys laws and that science by definition relies on that which it can not by definition EVER explain: "Science starts from the existence of those laws, can NOT EVER disprove God". – Leonard Mlodinow Co-author along with Stephen Hawkings of A Briefer History of Time.

      An atheist must ignore the fact that the universe obeys laws, or like Leonard Mlodinow, just “wonder from time to time why they do”, but do nothing about it.

      4. The fossil record which shows millions of years of stable species, then an explosion of necessary mutations, all occurring at the precise necessary time required for complex organisms to develop, and ALL escaping fossilization
      “the sudden appearance of most species in the geologic record and the lack of evidence of substantial gradual change in most species—from their initial appearance until their extinction—has long been noted, including by Charles Darwin who appealed to the imperfection of the record as the favored explanation” – Wikipedia

      An atheist needs to believe that ALL species, every single one, millions of them “evolved” along this pattern: nothing happens for millions of years, then in a time period short enough to ALWAYS escape fossilization ALL of the mutations occur, precisely orchestrated such that complex organs can develop. All speciations always obey that fantastically improbable sequence.

      5. The historical evidence of Jesus Christ “Most critical historians agree that Jesus was a Galilean Jewish Rabbi who was regarded as a teacher and healer in Judaea,[18] that he was baptized by John the Baptist, and that he was crucified in Jerusalem on the orders of the Roman Prefect, Pontius Pilate, on the charge of sedition against the Roman Empire.[19] Critical Biblical scholars and historians have offered competing descriptions of Jesus as a self-described Messiah, as the leader of an apocalyptic movement, as an itinerant sage, as a charismatic healer, and as the founder of an independent religious movement.” –Wikipedia

      An atheist needs to believe that Jesus Christ was an insane man, truly insane, who believed he was fathered by a deity. We arent talking sort of nuts, really really nuts. Then you have to explain how that crazy person sounds so fantastically logical and rational in the gospel accounts.

      6. The historical fact that Jesus died and was buried in a tomb. Three days later that tomb was found to be empty, following that hundreds of people reported they witnessed the resurrected Jesus and were willing to go to their death saying that.
      An atheist is stuck with trying to understand how so many people could have been tortured to death knowing it was for a lie.

      7. The demonstrated historical accuracy of the biblical narrative in all accounts, the Gospel of Luke alone has hundreds of verified historical accuracies and has NO historical inaccuracies.
      An atheist has to believe that the authors of the Gospels a) said what that what they were writing was true and in some cases claimed to be witnesses of Jesus b) were extremely diligent with recording historical details and yet, were completely and utterly hallucinating about having seen a resurrected Jesus.

      The fact that we have a universal understanding of good and evil.
      – If God does not exist, objective moral values do not exist.
      – Evil exists.
      – Therefore, objective moral values exist. (Some things are evil!)
      – Therefore, God exists.
      An atheist has to believe that some how a universal morality “evolved”

      May 6, 2012 at 6:59 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      As others have replied at length, many of the points you list are not evidence – they are your re-stated beliefs. Science's inability to conclusively answer your questions does not give any credibility to you "god did it" theory. The best you can do is point to some questionable records that suggest a man named Jesus lived 2,000+ years ago. You have not presented any evidence for the supernatural claims about Jesus. Again, you fail absolutely to establish the foundation for your cult.

      May 6, 2012 at 9:29 pm |
  12. God's Oldest Dreamer

    The equatorially beleagered missed representative are collar bound with egoisms vilenesses! The curtailing of churches emulating Godly virtues is nowadays the triumphants slaughterings of its' flocks thru unneeded perfumes such as books and Tv evangelists doing the cornerstone marketings of other than the Bible! How can the Truth not be subverted when subvertionalisms are most churches common denominators?

    Why should any atheist be bothered one bit that God either exists or doesn'T? Can't one just get along lil doggies,get along? Or is it that hate still boils over and continues corrupting the up and coming newbies on the livid benches? Is one not but a part of the wholeness or are we ever to continue the splintering of? Where does one stop the malignancies of sociological fermentations' laments?

    Literally fragranced are thoughts of expounding contrivances concerns and regards! Literalizations in hastefullness are at times either well thought or seldomly bought! The carrying of and towards predjudisms parlors to "Frankenstinian" wants! The malignancies of predjudistic revelries runs the gammets ever dividing one's willingness to be alikened to and toward otherliness regards and concernments discipled! The spiritually fruitier the mentally loopier one gets and does become!

    Only but one needs to seek faithfully the mercy for us all! Who in the now-times will it so be? You? Your best friend? A neighbor? We all stand upon and towards our own cliff's edge! Will one await one's end by living it out? Should one walk over and passed one's edged cliff? In summation I have sought mercies for my stained Life by letting other's shoulder my past sins! I was wronged for so doing it due giving the imbecilic attention getters their indignascious and malignant thrustngs of their tongued word of contempualisms sarcasms! Live and be let to live in one's sinfulnessed indignations!

    May 5, 2012 at 10:27 am |
    • Jill

      Protractors are for descents. If you say yellow blaupunkt will capture said essence. Tarry not beyond the schoolchildren in the syntax although we cajole the Asian simile. Grunt. Observe the lemonade.

      May 5, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
  13. AGuest9

    Talking to yourself is a sign of psychosis.

    May 5, 2012 at 9:30 am |
    • Hitchens

      So is being on these blogs under an assumed name.

      May 5, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
    • AGuest9

      Agreed.

      May 5, 2012 at 9:43 pm |
  14. Reality

    Free Will and Future are inherent to all the thinking beings in the Universe. This being the case, it is not possible to alter life with prayers. Statistically, your request might come true but it is simply the result of the variability/randomness of Nature..

    So put down your rosaries and prayer beads and stop worshiping/revering cows or bowing to Mecca five times a day. Instead work hard at your job, take care of aging parents, volunteer at a soup kitchen, donate to charities and the poor and continue to follow the proper rules of your religion or any good rules of living as gracious and good human beings.

    May 5, 2012 at 8:39 am |
    • earl

      In Deuteronomy 18:18-19, God said that He will send a prophet like Moses. The prophet’s task is to speak the words God has put in his mouth and to reveal His true Name. God commanded us to listen to this prophet only. This prophet is Mr. Eraño Evangelista. Read the messages that God revealed to him in the Bible for our generation in this site : thename.ph
      Know if Jesus did really accomplish his mission from God and the Real Name of God
      Thank you.

      May 5, 2012 at 9:22 am |
    • Reality

      earl,

      Some 21st century perspective:

      1. origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482

      “New Torah For Modern Minds

      Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

      Such startling propositions – the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years – have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity – until now.

      The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine docu-ment. “

      prob•a•bly
      Adverb: Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell.

      2. Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Ludemann, Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

      The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.

      earlychristianwritings.com/theories.html

      For added "pizzazz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".

      Current RCC problems:

      Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!

      2 b., Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).

      Current problems:
      Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,

      May 5, 2012 at 11:23 am |
    • God's Oldest Dreamer

      Reality,,,,,,,,,,, ,

      The adultress and the adulterator are of commonplace "shizzoms" within the playgrounds' venacularistically rooted! Such temptorisms are now fastly becoming modern day mainstreaming onto the lessor adults who are yet of agedness! To continue on by foresoothing and laying imbecilicisms against the religious fractions without attenuing the wholeness of humnoidal adulterations laments is but a waywarded outcasting of imbeciliacs' narrowmindedness!

      May 5, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • Reality

      Dreamer,

      Obviously, you are in need of a prayer. See the updated Apostles' Creed below.

      May 5, 2012 at 11:56 pm |
  15. Reality

    Steve, Steve, Steve,-->

    Apparently, you missed this the first time around. (The moderators must be having a slow day seeing they are recycling you and the topic).

    ONLY FOR THE NEWCOMERS:

    There is only prayer that the Christian folk really need.

    The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

    Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
    and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
    human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????

    I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
    preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
    named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
    girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
    Jerusalem.

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
    ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

    Amen
    (References used are available upon request.)

    P.S. Does anyone know about Steve P.'s beliefs. Is he a liberal Christian, agnostic, atheist et al. Tough to tell from his comments.

    May 5, 2012 at 8:36 am |
  16. Portland tony

    If you are a true believer, get off your *SS and go out and do his work. Help your fellow man, assist the poor, help feed the hungry, and at the end of the day pray for strength to do more!

    May 5, 2012 at 8:20 am |
    • AGuest9

      It's much easier for them to sit behind a keyboard and bash people.

      May 5, 2012 at 9:31 am |
  17. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    May 5, 2012 at 7:06 am |
    • Portland tony

      Do you honestly think there would be any religion today if one man repeated your inane comment to the masses over and over again. Go do God's work...just don't talk about it! Show your belief...just don't talk about it!

      May 5, 2012 at 8:29 am |
    • common sense needed

      Combination required.
      A good man prays
      A great man acts on prayer
      Prayer is talking with God
      There is sufficient time to pray and act every day.

      May 5, 2012 at 9:23 am |
    • Jesus

      ~~Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!.~!

      May 7, 2012 at 11:06 am |
  18. CNN

    Tomorrow we will discuss your comments about the comments and you can leave your comments about the comments comments.

    May 5, 2012 at 3:48 am |
    • danielwalldammit

      No comment!

      May 7, 2012 at 1:14 am |
    • Which God?

      But can you comment on your comments comments?

      May 7, 2012 at 2:48 pm |
  19. Tenton Nelson Horton

    When religions allow the government to dictate religious belief (such as prescribing a day of prayer) they are in essence giving up their own religious freedom. In Naions where government freely dictates religion we also find that they are dictatorships as well. Religion must always be a voluntary choice. When it is mandated, the original religion is destroyed. This is what has happened in the realm of Islam. Most Islamic Sects do not even resemble the original religion of the Prophet Muhammad(Pbuh) today. This can and will happen to Christianity and other religions when the government is allowed to prescribe religion...including a "National Day of Prayer". Many of our Baptist groups already know this fact...and actively oppose any government involvement in religion.

    May 5, 2012 at 1:43 am |
    • Joxer the Mighty

      I would argue that most Christian Sects don't hardly resemble the "Church" that Jesus created. In what Christian denominations do you see the voluntary socialism that was practiced in the first century church?

      May 5, 2012 at 5:30 am |
  20. Cold Hard TRUTH

    This article sucks.

    May 5, 2012 at 1:05 am |
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