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 A Jon Stewart skit that referenced "vagina mangers" has angered a conservative Catholic group.
May 8th, 2012
05:12 PM ET
Delta pulls 'Daily Show' ads over 'vagina manger' skitBy Dan Gilgoff and Dave Alsup, CNN (CNN) - Delta Air Lines has pulled its advertising from “The Daily Show with Jon Stewart” over a skit in which Stewart featured a picture of a manger in between a naked woman’s legs, the company said Tuesday. In the April skit, Stewart jokingly encouraged women to use “vagina mangers” to “protect their reproductive organs from unwanted medical intrusions.” In a statement Tuesday, Delta Air Lines spokesperson Leslie Parker said that “We're always re-evaluating our advertising opportunities and updating our strategy in an effort to reach our desired audience.” “Delta doesn't discriminate nor do we condone discrimination in regard to age, race, nationality, sexual orientation, religion or gender,” Parker’s statement continued. She said that Delta made the decision to pull its ads on Thursday. CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories The Catholic League for Civil and Religious Rights, a conservative group that has waged a weeks-long campaign pressuring Stewart to apologize for the skit, had pressured Delta and other Comedy Central advertisers to pull their Daily Show ads. Catholic League President Bill Donohue has encouraged a boycott of Kellogg’s because it has declined to pull its spots. On Tuesday, Donohue announced that he’d sent a letter to the leadership at Viacom, the corporate parent of Comedy Central, which airs “The Daily Show.” “You should be as offended as we are,” the letter said. “But if you are not, consider a picture of your own mother inserted there instead. Perhaps you now understand how the 80% of the nation that is Christian feel.” Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter “What Stewart did wasn’t a joke,” Donohue’s letter continued. “It was hate speech. We could have pressed for him to be fired, but we did not. All we want is an apology.” Media representatives at Comedy Central did not immediately respond to a request for comment. At a stand-up appearance in Florida last month, Stewart acknowledged the Catholic League’s campaign against him, according to the Tampa Bay Times. “I'm not going to censor myself to comfort your ignorance," Stewart said, decrying what he called the cable news-fueled “outrage machine.” soundoff (2,495 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 Next »
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Getting your news every night from the Daily Show
is as Lame
as getting your news every night from Entertainment Tonight
...or Fox (Faux) "News".
Right? I can't count how many people that I know who get most of their news from the Daily Show and their world view from South Park. Both shows can be funny, but come on.
At least the Daily Show does not flat out lie to you like Fox News.
I get my NEWS from the Daily Show
I get my Comedy from Fox.
How did Fox News get brought into this? You know that you can be critical of what John Stuart did without being a faux news fan. Fox is the Daily Show without a sense of humor. And don't get me started on MSNBC and their three hour DNC infomercial every night.
CASE CLOSED.
No, he almost certainly wasn't. His personal beliefs are debatable.
so was Martin Luther King....
Apparently you slept through GenEd history classes in college.
CLAIMED TO BE a Christian. "By his fruits" you will know. Clearly NOT what he CLAIMED to be. I can claim to be anything.... a brain surgeon, a lawyer, a paleantologist. A claim is NOT a truth or a fact. Read the history – he was a barbaric, self-serving, power-mongering, hate-inciting criminal. I don't see any of those things as compatible with scripture. One ought to base their beliefs on written and seeable TRUTH, not false claims.
However, it IS people like Hitler, and those who believe his CLAIM that he was a Chrisitan, that do give Christianity a bad taste and name. That others actually believe his claim and still make their life decisions based on his lies is the saddest part...
Delta's using the pull-out method of safe necks.
Don't worry, people. Neither Stewart nor TDS is going anywhere.
And I'll be boycotting Delta until the Daily Show gets an apology from them.
Ditto. Remember $ = speech now, and $ speech is the only kind companies place any value in these days.
Darnit, Tom. You beat me to it. Same here. Boycott Delta!!!! (Not that I'd fly with them anyway)
This guy Donahue is a Moron. So, let me get this straight... He polled all of the Catholics in the U.S. and came up with an 80% rate of outrage at Stewarts Skit. Gee, this would also indicate that the Daily Show has the highest ratings of any show, on any Station in the entire History of Television in the entire Planet. I don't think that Comedy Central or Viacom would give this Clown OR Delta the time of day that it would take to wipe their collective azzes
HOW DARE THAT COMEDIAN MAKE A JOKE!!!!!!!
*Like*
I am outraged sir! Next thing you know, Paul McCartney will be writing songs! How dare he?
Saying that 80% of the nation is Christian is delusional. You would have to define that as applying to anyone who ever set foot in a Christian affiliated structure. As an example, I was baptized Catholic, married in a Catholic church, my kids were born in a Catholic affiliated hospital and they attended Catholic schools but as an agnostic, I have zero to do with the Church of Pedophiles. The eldest child, now at Stanford, has completely terminated any religious affiliation. The same applies to my youngest the second she graduates from high school. And it is a certainty that millions of others are similar because intelligent life does not believe in fiction.
It's pretty simple. If you believe in a magic sky daddy and zombies then you're delusional.
" As an example, I was baptized Catholic, married in a Catholic church, my kids were born in a Catholic affiliated hospital and they attended Catholic schools but as an agnostic,"
Wow, that sure was a mouthful– But it would appear that you are more of a hypocrit than an Agnostic!! Oh and the referance to Pedophiles, Does that ignorant descriptive include your Children who were educated in that Church??? Well, you kind of robbed yourself of some dignity and definately trashed your own credibility.
@ Thomas
We educate our children in the church now? Wow, I always thought we'd regressed to the middle ages. Guess that's proof positive. Where's my pitchfork?
He's not a hypocrit. He's just trying to survive in a country that's run by bigots. In Billngs, MT, I go the to Catholic hospital because it is better than the other one, but to me they are just a business, and they act like it. I've seen loan sharks nicer than their billing department. The Catholic school here will give your student a better and safer education, even to us nonbelievers. And as for marrying and baptizing, if his spouse holds on to that religion, he's not a hypocrit for doing this, just being nice, something I wasn't willing to do. We got married in a garden, but he got to have his Protestant pastor, who insulted the gay couples there (including those who owned the garden) by going through the worn-out "marriage is a bond between man and woman" cliche. And Delta needs to get a life. I saw the skit and it wasn't as offensive as the five robed MEN in Congress given complete authority to decide the issues for WOMEN of this country. Talk about your dark ages.
L. O. L.
When advertisers pulled their funding from Rush, Liberals were tickled pink.
Now that their golden child has felt the wrath of an advertiser, they're all up in arms.
Is ANYONE surprised by the hypocritical left? Yeah... me neither.
Probably because Rush is a lying, drug peadling, hate monger.
The difference is Stewart is actually funny, meanwhile Rush just thinks he's funny.
Hypocritical?! You conservatives were throwing tantrums over sponsors dropping Rush! Huge difference in what was done too. Stewart's was a comedy sketch, over an imaginary woman. Rush verbally attacked a real woman in a malicious way.
There's no comparison!
Am I wrong in thinking that this means Delta supports child molesters?
You are right. It took me 32 minutes, but I just sold all of my delta miles that I spent 21 years racking up and I will boycott Delta indefinitely. I can't fly an airline that supports child molesters, or more importantly didn't find that skit funny.
Putting it all into perspective:
1. origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482
“New Torah For Modern Minds
Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.
Such startling propositions – the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years – have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity – until now.
The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine docu-ment. “
prob•a•bly
Adverb: Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell.
2. Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Ludemann, Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.
The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.
earlychristianwritings.com/theories.html
For added "pizzazz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".
Current RCC problems:
Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!
2 b., Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).
Current problems:
Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,
Well written, could have not said it better. But unfortunately the “whack-a-mole” Christian are about to condemn you with: go to hell… I guess.
Stephen F Roberts: “I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”
All this fake outrage by Christians is extremely hypocritical to say the least. It is disgusting. It is women who have the right to be offended by the intrusion into their lives by the almighty Church. The Christians believe they have a monopoly to condemn and criticize, but can't take just a little of the same – and indeed they deserve a hell of a lot more than just being criticized. They are disgusting hypocrites and it is every conscientious person's moral obligation to call them out on their fake BS outrage.
@Newyorker – thank you and well said!
Well said.
Christians playing the victim again in a situation they created.
Delta sux so no biggie here. The 'Daily Show' will be around and Delta will only be a spirit in the sky.
Well said. Been on a Delta flight lately? The inside of the plane is as ugly as a barn... perhaps that's why they don't like the "manger" reference... or perhaps it's the ticket agents that are offended.
And for the Catholic League, I'll imagine my mother in that picture if you'll imagine your clergy in that picture. Yeah, those "men" who like to ... well, you know...
Great!!! now we will loose another comedian to HBO over something STUPID ......just like we lost Bill Maher. I wish that the people that can't differentiate between entertainment and reality would just stop watching TV!!!!!!! "screw delta airlines"
Don't worry. Daily Show isn't going anywhere.
Did any of you actually see the skit? He put a picture of the Holy Family in front of a naked woman's crotch. Look, make fun of Catholics all you want but leave Jesus out of it. John Stuart and every other Jew would lose their minds if someone did something similar to offend their faith. Remember a few months ago when the ADL flipped out because Sarah Palin used the word "blood libel" even though she was clearly not talking about Jews or even knew the significance of the word.?
What's wrong with putting that picture in front of a woman's crotch???? It's a picture.... and a crotch... there's no magic butthurt anywhere.
So because Sarah Palin was too stupid to know the historical significance of the phrase she used she should get a free pass?
Seriously, who cares about them? Don't they have camps for these people anyway? Send 'em there and they can hoo and haw all they'd like so we don't have to listen to them anymore.
yeah, and making funny pictures of Allah offends a lot of people, and burning Korans offends a lot of people... and all of you need to get over yourselves!
Do you honestly think Jon Stewart would care about someone using a phrase like "blood libel"?
Also, Jesus, if he existed, was a d ick.
@ momoya
Lol
Sadly common sense is lost on those who base their life on ‘faith’.
Whoa...I was not in anyway condoning the intentional offending of Jew or Muslims. That is just as bad. I am just saying that there were plenty of ways he could have made his point and still be funny without using a picture of Jesus. You can make fun of Catholics, or any other group, without being cruel. But what he did was not designed to be funny but to hurt and offend.
Offending religious people is a good thing.
Good for them can't stand this guy anyway.
I am sure he cares.
His show tends to be targeted towards a more intellectual audience...
Onto the nitty gritty of s-ex, contraception and STD protection in the 21st century;
ONLY FOR THE NEWCOMERS:
– from a guy who enjoys intelligent se-x-
Note: Some words hyphenated to defeat an obvious word filter. ...
The Brutal Effects of Stupidity:
: The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the Pill ( 8.7% failure rate) and male con-dom (17.4% failure rate) have led to the large rate of abortions and S-TDs in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the Pill or co-ndoms properly and/or use safer methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.- Failure rate statistics provided by the Gut-tmacher Inst-itute. Unfortunately they do not give the statistics for doubling up i.e. using a combination of the Pill and a condom.
Added information before making your next move:
from the CDC-2006
"Se-xually transmitted diseases (STDs) remain a major public health challenge in the United States. While substantial progress has been made in preventing, diagnosing, and treating certain S-TDs in recent years, CDC estimates that approximately 19 million new infections occur each year, almost half of them among young people ages 15 to 24.1 In addition to the physical and psy-ch-ological consequences of S-TDs, these diseases also exact a tremendous economic toll. Direct medical costs as-sociated with STDs in the United States are estimated at up to $14.7 billion annually in 2006 dollars."
And from:
Consumer Reports, January, 2012
"Yes, or-al se-x is se-x, and it can boost cancer risk-
Here's a crucial message for teens (and all se-xually active "post-teeners": Or-al se-x carries many of the same risks as va-ginal se-x, including human papilloma virus, or HPV. And HPV may now be overtaking tobacco as the leading cause of or-al cancers in America in people under age 50.
"Adolescents don’t think or-al se-x is something to worry about," said Bonnie Halpern-Felsher professor of pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco. "They view it as a way to have intimacy without having 's-ex.'" (It should be called the Bill Clinton Syndrome !!)
Obviously, political leaders in both parties, Planned Parenthood, parents, the "stupid part of the USA" and the educational system have failed miserably on many fronts.
The most effective forms of contraception, ranked by "Perfect use":
1a. (Abstinence, 0% failure rate)
1b. (Masturbation, mono or mutual, 0% failure rate)
Followed by:
One-month injectable and Implant (both at 0.05 percent)
Vasectomy and IUD (Mirena) (both at 0.1 percent)
The Pill, Three-month injectable, and the Patch (all at 0.3 percent)
Tubal sterilization (at 0.5 percent)
IUD (Copper-T) (0.6 percent)
Periodic abstinence (Post-ovulation) (1.0 percent)
Periodic abstinence (Symptothermal) and Male condom (both at 2.0 percent)
Periodic abstinence (Ovulation method) (3.0 percent)
Every other method ranks below these, including Withdrawal (4.0), Female condom (5.0), Diaphragm (6.0), Periodic abstinence (calendar) (9.0), the Sponge (9.0-20.0, depending on whether the woman using it has had a child in the past), Cervical cap (9.0-26.0, with the same caveat as the Sponge), and Spermicides (18.0).
So you cite that the pill has an 8.7% failure rate, then in your same argument state that the pill also has a 0.3% failure rate? If you were trying to sound smart, you just blew it.
So who are you then? The S-e-x education police? What business is it of yours what contraception methods people use you dck?
The dude is a moron. He suggested condom-fitted briefs in a previous article. He also suggested lacing sodas with the birth control pill.
o The numbers, the calculations and two "bottom liners":
"Facts on Co-ntraceptive Use
http://www.gu-ttmacher.org/pubs/fb_contr_use.html
January 2008
WHO NEEDS CONTRACEPTIVES?
• 62 million U.S. women (and men?) are in their childbearing years (15–44).[1]
• 43 million women (and men) of reproductive age, or 7 in 10, are se-xually active and do not want to become pregnant, but could become pregnant if they or their partners fail to use a contraceptive method.[2]
• The typical U.S. woman (man?) wants only 2 children. To achieve this goal, she (he?) must use contraceptives for roughly 3 decades.[3]
WHO USES CONTRACEPTIVES?
• Virtually all women (98%) aged 15–44 who have ever had inte-rcourse have used at least one contraceptive method.[2](and men?)
• Overall, 62% of the 62 million women aged 15–44 are currently using one.[2] (and men)
• 31% of the 62 million women (and men?) do not need a method because they are infertile; are pregnant, postpartum or trying to become pregnant; have never had inter-course; or are not s-exually active.[2]
• Thus, only 7% of women aged 15–44 are at risk of unwanted pregnancy but are not using contraceptives.[2] (and men?)
• Among the 42 million fertile, s-exually active women who do not want to become pregnant, 89% are practicing contraception.[2] (and men?)
WHICH METHODS DO WOMEN (men?) USE?
• 64% of reproductive-age women who practice contraception use reversible methods, such as oral contraceptives or condoms. The remaining women rely on female or male sterilization.[2]
FIRST-YEAR CONTRACEPTIVE FAILURE RATES
Percentage of women (men?) experiencing an unplanned pregnancy (a few examples)
Method Typical
Pill (combined) 8.7
Tubal sterilization 0.7
Male condom 17.4
Vas-ectomy 0.2
Periodic abstinence 25.3
Calendar 9.0
Ovulation Method 3.0
Sympto-thermal 2.0
Post-ovulation 1.0
No method 85.0"
(Abstinence) 0
(Mas-turbation) 0
More facts about co-ntraceptives from
guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_contr_use.html
"CON-TRACEPTIVE METHOD CHOICE
Con-traceptive method use among U.S. women who practice con-traception, 2002
Method No. of users (in 000s) % of users
Pill 11,661 30.6
Male condom 6,841 18.0 "
i.e.
The pill fails to protect women 8.7% during the first year of use (from the same reference previously shown).
i.e.
0.087 (failure rate)
x 62 million (# child bearing women)
x 0.62 ( % of these women using contraception )
x 0.306 ( % of these using the pill) =
1,020,000 unplanned pregnancies during the first year of pill use.
For male condoms (failure rate of 17.4 and 18% use level):
1,200,000 unplanned pregnancies during the first year of male condom use.
The Guttmacher Insti-tute (same reference) notes also that the perfect use of the pill should result in a 0.3% failure rate
(35,000 unplanned pregnancies) and for the male condom, a 2% failure rate (138,000 unplanned pregnancies).
o Bottom Line #1: The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the pill and male condom have led to the large rate of abortions ( one million/yr) and S-TDs (19 million/yr) in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the pill or condoms properly and/or use other methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.
Bottom line #2-
Currently, a perfect barrier system does not exist. Time to develop one! In the meantime, mono-ma-sturbation or mutual ma-sturbation are highly recommended for hete-rose-xuals who need a contraceptive. Abstinence is another best-solution but obviously the se-x drive typically vitiates this option although being biological would it not be able to develop a drug to temporarily eliminate said drive?
One more time:
Condoms are available over the counter. Make the Pill available over the counter and there will be no more debate. Planned Parenthood can offer deep discounts for those who say they cannot afford said protection.
Or better yet, put a pack of condoms and a box of Pills in cereal boxes. Unfortunately, that would not ensure the condoms and/or Pills would be used. Based on Guttmacher Insti-tute data, said condoms and/or Pills are currently not being used as they should. (one million abortions/yr and 19 million cases of S-TDs/yr because either the daily Pill was not taken or a condom stayed in the pocket.)
Maybe selling Pill-enriched sodas??? Hmmm?
Condom-fitted briefs for men?? Hmmm?
The door is open for other ideas!!!
Sure if you want to pull your advertising from one of the best and FUNNY shows on television because you have no sense of humor, Delta certainly has the right to be stupid and air commercials during whatever worthless network show they want.
And we have the right to use the only form of free speech that Delta values, that of where we put our $. $ = speech now, and its the only form of speech Delta will fight to protect. We have a choice in who we fly, and we should think carefully about where we spend our $.
I totally agree with the premise – "if you don't like it, don't watch/listen/read/etc. it" Too many people whining about being offended...
That being said, I sure hope all you that are saying this, say the same thing with Rush, or any conservative viewpoint. Somehow, I think many of the same people who are saying "get over it" here, were saying "fire him!" a couple months ago.
In fairness, Rush's case was a personal attack, this is a joke.
I don't care what people say and what people do about it; it's a free system.. People can decide not to purchase products from a company because of somebody's comments or not.. Who cares?. It's my principles that side me against Rush's comments and with Stewart's.. Why should I be afraid to own that?. Fvck Rush; Yay Stewart.
That is a good point. And Rush's silly attacks weren't any worse than what Jon and Bill have said about the Palins.
Trixi got it right.
I wonder if the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights defends the boys who are molested by priests?
Actually Donahue went so far as to say that it was the boys' fault, and that they wee essentially asking for it. Donahue is a hack and a bully and does not speak for this Christian.
Excellent point, I call that selective outrage. It's ok to get mad over a comedian poking fun at a political issue but why isn't this guy boycotting and writing letters to his on church asking that all these child molesting priest be fired. I forgot, it's in his personal interest to attack Jon Stewart and his free speech right to poke fun at this issue.
By the way ..... What does Vatican fly when they travel? Are the flight attendants adolescent boys?
pre-adolescent.