May 12th, 2012
10:00 PM ET

With or without Romney, D.C. a surprising Mormon stronghold

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

Alexandria, Virginia (CNN) – A few hundred Mormons filed into a chapel just outside the Washington Beltway one recent Sunday to hear a somewhat unusual presentation: an Obama administration official recounting his conversion to Mormonism.

“I have never in my life had a more powerful experience than that spiritual moment when the spirit of Christ testified to me that the Book of Mormon is true,” Larry Echo Hawk told the audience, which stretched back through the spacious sanctuary and into a gymnasium in the rear.

Echo Hawk’s tear-stained testimonial stands out for a couple of reasons: The White House normally doesn’t dispatch senior staff to bare their souls, and Mormons hew heavily Republican. It’s not every day a top Democrat speaks from a pulpit owned by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

And yet the presentation by Echo Hawk, then head of the U.S. Bureau of Indian Affairs, is also a perfect symbol of a phenomenon that could culminate in Mitt Romney’s arrival at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue next year: The nation’s capital has become a Mormon stronghold, with Latter-day Saints playing a big and growing role in the Washington establishment.

The well-dressed crowd gathered for Echo Hawk’s speech was dotted with examples of inside-the-beltway Mormon power.

In one pew sits a Mormon stake president – a regional Mormon leader – who came to Washington to write speeches for Ronald Reagan and now runs a lobbying firm downtown.

Behind him in the elegant but plain sanctuary – Mormon chapels are designed with an eye toward functionality and economy – is a retired executive secretary of the U.S. Supreme Court.

A few pews further back, the special assistant to the U.S. Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan sits next to a local Mormon bishop who came to Washington to work for Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah and now leads a congressionally chartered foundation.

Mitt Romney, who would be the first Mormon president if elected, is the son of a Cabinet secretary under Richard Nixon.

“In a Republican administration, there will be even more Mormons here,” whispers the bishop, Lewis Larsen, pointing out prominent Washingtonians around the chapel. “Every Republican administration just loads up with them.”

Regardless of which party controls the White House, Mormonism in Washington has been growing for decades.

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When Larsen arrived in Washington in the early ’80s, there were a just handful of Mormon meetinghouses in northern Virginia, where he lives. Today, there are more than 25, each housing three separate congregations, or wards, as they’re known in the LDS Church.

“There’s been an absolute explosion in Mormon growth inside the beltway,” Larsen says before slipping out of the pew to crank the air conditioning for the swelling crowd.

The LDS Church says there are 13,000 active members within a 10-mile radius of Washington, though the area’s Mormon temple serves a much larger population – 148,000 Latter-day Saints, stretching from parts of South Carolina to New Jersey.

Signs of the local Mormon population boom transcend the walls of the temple and meetinghouses.

Crystal City, a Virginia neighborhood just across the Potomac River from Washington, has become so popular with young Mormons that it’s known as “Little Provo,” after the Utah city that’s home to church-owned Brigham Young University.

Congress now counts 15 Mormon members, including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, according to the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life. That means the 2% of the country that’s Mormon is slightly overrepresented on Capitol Hill.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Democrat, is the highest-placed elected Mormon in Washington.

Even many Latter-day Saints joke about Washington’s “Mormon mafia” – referring to the number of well-placed LDS Church members across town – though they cringe at the thought of being seen as part of some cabal. (Echo Hawk, for his part, left the Obama administration a few weeks after his chapel presentation for a job in the LDS Church hierarchy).

“No one talks about Washington being an Episcopalian stronghold or a Jewish stronghold,” says Richard Bushman, a Mormon scholar at Columbia University. Talk of “Mormon Washington,” he says, “represents a kind of surprise that people who were thought of as provincial have turned up in sophisticated power positions.”

Bushman and other experts note that, despite Mormons’ growing political power, the official church mostly steers clear of politics. It’s hard to point to federal legislation or a White House initiative that bears distinctly Mormon fingerprints, while it’s easy to do the same for other faiths.

For example, the White House’s recent “compromise” on a rule that would have required religious groups to fund contraception for employees was mostly a reaction to pressure from Roman Catholic bishops.

Nonetheless, Mormon success in Washington is a testament to distinctly Mormon values, shedding light into the heart of one of America’s fastest-growing religions.

And though the official church is mostly apolitical, most rank-and-file Mormons have linked arms with the GOP. Romney’s own political evolution mirrors that trend.

Such forces help explain why Mormons’ beltway power is poised to grow even stronger in coming years, whether or not Romney wins the White House.

‘A ton of Mormon contacts’

For many Washington Mormons, religion plays a key role in explaining why they’re here.

Larsen, who sports a brown comb-over and tortoise shell glasses, arrived in Washington in the early 1980s as an intern for Hatch, also a Mormon.

He landed the internship courtesy of Brigham Young University, his alma mater. The Mormon school owns a four-story dorm on Pennsylvania Avenue, not too far from the White House, which houses 120 student interns each year. It’s the school’s largest such program in the nation.

“Part of our church’s tradition is to be connected with civic life, to make our communities better,” says BYU’s Scott Dunaway, who helps place students on Capitol Hill, at the Smithsonian and other Washington institutions. “We don’t believe in being reclusive.”

It’s a perfect characterization of Larsen. He grew up in Provo, in the shadow of BYU, and wanted to prove he could make it outside of Utah.

“Kids growing up in the LDS Church have been told, ‘Go ye out in the world and preach the gospel of Christ - don’t be afraid to be an example,’ ” Larsen said, sitting in the glass-doored conference room of the foundation he runs on K Street.

“So we are on our missions, converting people to Christianity,” he continued. “And coming to Washington, for me and probably for a lot of people, came out of that interest. We see it as our career, but also we’re going out to preach the word of Christ.”

For Larsen, that usually means correcting misinformation about Mormonism or explaining Mormon beliefs and practices – you really don’t drink coffee, ever? – over lunch with co-workers or at business functions, rather than on-the-job proselytizing.

He learned about integrating work and faith from Hatch. He was initially shocked to discover that the senator prays in his office each morning. Larsen and Hatch developed what the bishop calls a “father-son” relationship, with the intern rising up through the ranks to become Hatch’s chief Washington fundraiser.

“We would go on trips, and I’d quiz him on the plane: Why did the church do this? Why didn’t the church do this?” Larsen said. “He was like a tutor to me.”

Now, as the head of a foundation that educates teachers about the U.S. Constitution, the bishop helps other young Mormons with job leads and introductions. Larsen was appointed to the role by Hatch and the late U.S. Sen. Ted Kennedy.

Much of Washington’s Mormon professional network is still anchored by BYU, which operates a handful of big, well-connected alumni groups with major Washington chapters. The most prominent is BYU’s Management Society, a global organization whose biggest chapter is in Washington.

At the chapter’s recent alumni dinner, former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was the guest of honor. She has strong ties to the Mormon community and has hired Mormons as top aides. Says Larsen: “Condi’s got a ton of Mormon contacts.”

Patrice Pederson also knows how to work a Rolodex. A lifelong political activist, she moved from Utah to Washington last year and soon tapped into BYU’s local network.

Pederson served as the U.S.-based campaign manager for Yeah Samake, a Mormon running for president in the West African nation of Mali.

Samake traveled frequently to the U.S. to raise money and build political support, so Pederson enlisted the help of BYU’s Management Society and other groups to host events for the candidate.

Both in Washington and across the U.S., many Mormons are watching his candidacy.

“Members of the church on Capital Hill were anxious to introduce the candidate to other members of Congress,” says Pederson, sipping an herbal tea (Mormons eschew black leaf teas) in a strip mall Starbucks near her apartment in Alexandria, Virginia.

“It’s cool to have a member of the church running for president in Africa.”

Beyond making connections, many Washington Mormons say the LDS Church provides an ideal proving ground for careers here.

Unlike most churches, it has no professional clergy; from the bishop to the organist, each role is filled by everyday Mormons, most of whom have other day jobs. As a result, Mormons take church leadership roles at an early age, speaking publicly at Sunday services almost as soon they learn to talk.

“My kids grew up in the church, and we get together for three hours on Sundays, and each member needs to get up and speak,” says U.S. Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah. “By the time they graduate, they have all these speaking assignments that other teenagers just don’t have.

U.S. Rep. Jason Chaffetz, a Utah Republican, says Mormonism provides ideal training for aspiring politicians.

“For those who grow up in the Mormon church, they are taught skills that allow them to be successful in a tough city like Washington,” says Chaffetz, who converted to Mormonism shortly after college.

Young Mormons also hone leadership skills by serving missions away from home. The missions last from one and half to two years and happen when Mormons are in their late teens and early 20s and often include intensive foreign language training.

“Young Mormons are more formidable in public settings and international settings than others,” says Terryl Givens, a Mormon scholar at the University of Richmond. “Normally you would have to acquire more age and work experience before you feel comfortable and useful at NGOs and think tanks.”

Chaffetz, whose son is serving a mission in Ghana, says the experience is the perfect preparation for political careers.

“They learn rejection early on,” he says. “If you’re going to be in politics, that’s a pretty good attribute.”

Christina Tomlinson served her mission in nonexotic Fresno, California. But working with the Laotian community there, she acquired the foreign language skills that landed her first internship at the U.S. State Department.

“I look back at that and it’s nothing but divine providence,” Tomlinson says one night at an office building-turned-chapel in Crystal City, after a weekly discussion about Mormon teachings. “I would have never made those choices.”

When she arrived at her foreign service orientation in the late 1990s, Tomlinson was surprised to find that a half-dozen of her State Department colleagues were also Mormon. The thriving LDS community at State even runs its own e-mail list server so Latter-day Saints can find each other wherever in the world they’re stationed.

Like former presidential candidate Jon Huntsman, who used the Mandarin language skills acquired through a Mormon mission to Taiwan to help secure his job as President Barack Obama’s previous ambassador to China, Tomlinson leveraged her mission to get ahead at State, where she now serves as special assistant to the U.S. Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan.

“I’m basically the chief of staff for the president’s representative charged with implementing U.S. foreign policy towards Afghanistan and Pakistan,” she e-mailed on a recent plane ride back from the region.

Language skills acquired on a Mormon mission helped Christina Tomlinson get her start at the State Department.

At the point of a bayonet

Like many Mormons, Tomlinson says her professional life is driven by a faith-based patriotism that sounds old-fashioned to modern ears: “I just really wanted to serve my country.”

But that distinctly Mormon patriotism was hard-won. From their very beginning, Mormons had tried to forge a special relationship with Washington. And for decades, they failed.

Joseph Smith, who founded Mormonism in the 1830s, petitioned the U.S. government to protect his fledgling religious community from the violent persecution it was experiencing, even meeting repeatedly with President Martin Van Buren.

But Washington refused, provoking Smith – who Mormons consider their founding prophet – to run for president himself in 1844. He was assassinated by an anti-Mormon mob in Illinois well before Election Day.

In the face of such attacks, Mormons fled west, to the territory that’s now Utah. But they continued to seek ties with Washington, dispatching representatives to the capital to lobby for statehood.

Congress refused to grant it. Instead, Uncle Sam disincorporated the LDS Church and sent the U.S. Army to police Mormon territory.

In the eyes of Washington, Latter-day Saints were flouting federal law by practicing polygamy. The feds saw the LDS Church as an undemocratic rival government that threatened Washington’s power.

Joseph Smith, Mormonism’s founding prophet, ran for president in 1844 but was killed before Election Day.

Mormons would eventually ban polygamy, paving the way for Utah statehood in 1896. But Congress nonetheless refused to seat the new state’s Mormon senator, who also served as a top church official.

For four years, the U.S. Senate held hearings to grill U.S. Sen. Reed Smoot and other church leaders, alleging that Mormons continued to practice polygamy despite promises to the contrary.

“The political trial was as much a galvanizing cultural moment as was Watergate,” says Kathleen Flake, a scholar of Mormonism at Vanderbilt University in Tenneessee.

When Smoot was eventually seated – after the LDS Church took further steps to stamp out polygamy – he managed to become a Washington powerbroker. He would chair the Senate Finance Committee and act as a presidential adviser.

“He was Mr. Republican,” says Flake. “For a while there, he was the Republican Party.”

Smoot’s unflagging pursuit of legitimacy in Washington, despite the city’s bias against him and his faith, symbolizes what many call a uniquely Mormon appreciation for American civic life. It helps explain the Mormon fascination with Washington to this day.

It may seen counterintuitive, but Mormons’ early exposure to persecution at the hands of other Americans – aided, Mormons say, by the U.S. government – wound up strengthening their patriotic streak.

In the face of attacks, Mormons clung to the U.S. Constitution and its unprecedented guarantee of religious freedom. They distinguished between the document and those charged with implementing it.

Mormon scripture goes so far as to describe the U.S. Constitution as divinely inspired, establishing a unique environment in which Mormonism could emerge.

“Mormons are superpatriots,” says Columbia University’s Bushman. “Joseph Smith said that if the government was doing its job as laid out in the Constitution, it would protect Mormons from their enemies.”

Mormons began to shed their Utah-only siege mentality and fanned out in the early part of the 20th century. Their patriotic streak, which translated into military enlistments and applications for government jobs, led many to Washington.

That wave included J. Willard Marriott, the hotel chain founder, who launched his business career by opening an A&W root beer stand here. He would go on to forge the kind of deep political connections that would help make Willard “Mitt” Romney his namesake.

Washington’s Mormon community got another boost in the 1950s when President Dwight Eisenhower appointed a top church official, Ezra Taft Benson, as his agriculture secretary.

“Mormons took it as a sign of maybe, just maybe, we’re being accepted,” says Flake. “It signified a cultural acceptance of Mormonism. People thought Mormons believed weird things, but also that they were self-reliant, moral and good neighbors.”

As Mormons became more accepted, they became more upwardly mobile, landing in parts of the country that could sustain careers in commerce, academia and government - another reason Washington was a big draw.

By the time there were enough Mormons in the eastern U.S. to justify the construction of the first Mormon temple east of the Mississippi River, the church chose a site just outside Washington.

The temple opened in 1974, shortly after another high-profile Mormon – George Romney, Mitt’s father – left his post as Richard Nixon’s secretary of Housing and Urban Development.

“The Washington temple served as a symbol of the triumphant return of Mormonism to the east,” says Givens, the University of Richmond professor. “Mormons left from the point of a bayonet in the 1800s and the temple is this gigantic symbol that says ‘We’re back – and we’re back in the nation’s capital.’ ”

The Mormon temple outside Washington was the first such temple built east of the Mississippi River.

Unlike Mormon meetinghouses, where members meet for Sunday worship, temples are grander buildings reserved for certain rites, such as proxy baptisms for the dead.

To this day, the first monument many Washington visitors see isn’t a federal landmark. It’s the massive Mormon temple, its Georgian marble towers and gold-leafed spires looming above the trees on the Washington Beltway like an otherworldly castle.

The temple houses a J. Willard Marriott-financed mural of Jesus Christ’s second coming, which features a picture of the Washington temple itself in the background.

“Are you implying that the millennium will begin in Washington?” a temple visitor once asked Marriott, referring to Jesus’ return.

Replied Marriott: “What better place is there?”

Good at organizing

These days, the Mormon impulse toward Washington is often as much political as patriotic.

Patrice Pederson - the campaign manager for the Mormon running for president in Mali - made her first foray into politics at 15, hopping the bus from her home in the suburbs of Salt Lake City into town to intern with a Republican candidate for the U.S. House.

“I remember that when Bill Clinton was elected, I wore all black to school that day,” says Pederson, who was in junior high at the time. “I was mourning the death of liberty.”

When then-Vice President Al Gore visited Utah, Pederson protested his speech with a homemade poster that said “Blood, Guts & Gore – Healthcare’94.” (She can’t recall the poster’s exact meaning).

Pederson’s activism as a “total hardcore right-winger” continued into her 20s. She put off college at BYU to start a “pro-family” advocacy group aimed at lobbying foreign governments and the United Nations. The work brought her to Washington so frequently that she decided to relocate last year: “I had more friends here than in Utah.”

Pederson’s path to D.C. speaks to the growing Mormon/Republican alliance since the 1960s, driven largely by the emergence of social issues such as abortion and gay marriage and the rise of the Christian Right.

“In the 1950s and ’60s, Utah became Republican,” says Bushman. “It’s partly about being anti-communist, but it’s also a response to the 1960s and the decay of old-fashioned moral virtues. It’s an anti-1960s movement, and the Republicans seemed to be the party of old-fashioned virtues.”

Pederson’s roommate, Kodie Ruzicka, grew up squarely in that movement, with her mom heading the Utah chapter of Eagle Forum, a conservative Christian group founded by rightwing icon Phyllis Schlafly.

In the 1970s, when the Catholic Schlafly led a successful grassroots campaign against the Equal Rights Amendment, which would have made gender-based discrimination unconstitutional, she enlisted the help of Mormons.

To its opponents, including the LDS Church, the ERA was the work of radical feminists who wanted to upend traditional gender roles.

Much of Schlafly’s organizing was among evangelicals, and “given the sometimes hostile evangelical line on Mormons, [Schlafly’s] Mormon outreach was kind of revolutionary,” says Ruzicka, who now works at the Justice Department. “But we’re good at organizing, and we have a lot of useful structures for it, so that was useful to her.”

Today, Mormons head Eagle Forum chapters across the West, including California, Arizona and Nevada, as well as Utah.

Bridge-building between Mormons and the conservative movement helps explain the Reagan administration’s push to hire many Mormons into the White House - which further cemented the alliance. That bond continues to lure Mormons to D.C.

Ruzicka, for one, continued in the political footsteps of her mother, arriving in Washington in her mid-20s to lead a nonprofit that promotes safe haven laws, which allow young mothers to legally abandon young children at fire stations.

Beyond hot-button social issues, U.S. Rep. Chaffetz says the Mormon faith engenders support for limited government.

“The church is very adamant about personal responsibility, and for people to voluntarily participate in service,” the Utah Republican says. “There’s this feeling that service is not something that should be mandated by government.”

The LDS Church, for its part, insists it is politically neutral and that it avoids pressuring Mormon elected officials to tow a church line. “The church’s mission is to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ, not to elect politicians,” the church’s website says.

Mormon experts say the church’s support for a relatively strict separation of church and state is born of the U.S. government’s refusal to help Mormons in the face of early persecution.

And after being accused of setting up a rival government around the turn of the last century, the church is loath to be seen giving marching orders to LDS politicians.

The church did, however, play a leading role in passing Prop 8, California’s gay marriage ban, in 2008. Church officials called it a moral cause, not a political one.

Plenty of critics disagree. But neither Mormon bishops nor church officials are known to lead the kind of church-based legislative lobbying efforts that Catholic bishops or evangelical leaders do.

Mitt Romney himself embodies the reluctance of Mormon politicians to connect their religion and their public policy positions, in contrast to politicians of other faiths.

That reluctance also appears to be born of anxiety over Americans’ lingering questions and doubts about Mormonism. When Pew asked Americans last year what word they associated with the Mormon faith, the most common response was “cult.”

In recent weeks, Romney’s newfound position as the presumptive Republican presidential nominee has produced a mix of excitement and worry among Mormons. That’s especially true in Washington, where politically savvy Latter-day Saints send out frequent e-mail round-ups of Mormon media coverage to their LDS networks.

“A lot of us know it’s ultimately a good thing, but it’s hard to feel like it’s a good thing because so much of the publicity is about things you wouldn’t talk about in polite company, like my underwear,” says Pederson, referring to the enduring fascination with Mormon undergarments.

Like many conservatives, Pederson is suspicious of Romney.

“I don’t like his waffling, to put it gently, on life and family issues,” she says. “But if it comes down to Romney versus Obama, hand me the pom-poms. I’ll be president of the Romney-Is-the-Best-We-Can-Come-Up-With-for-President Club.”

For now, Pederson is working with the National Right to Life Committee’s political action committee to raise money for the Romney effort, even as she makes up her mind about how actively she wants to promote his candidacy.

Some of her calculus is about weighing political reality against her conservative idealism. And some of it is about her next professional move. It’s a very Washington place to be.

- Video by CNN photojournalist Jeremy Moorhead

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: 2012 Election • Barack Obama • Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints • DC • Jon Huntsman • Mitt Romney • Mormonism • Politics

soundoff (3,419 Responses)
  1. cherry

    when mormons get into office,hundred percent,the entire department will be all mormons qualified or not,thats why mormons are saying they have good jobs and they are everywhere because they get what they want,,and they can give good life to their children...people think twice,do you want to vote for Mittens when you know what will happen to the future of non mormons children....

    May 13, 2012 at 10:12 am |
    • O.T.

      Rank religious bigotry. You must be a liberal.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:14 am |
    • DeeCee1000

      O.T., I'm totally religious. . .my bible says that if I see a male Mormon on the street, I'm supposed to rip their pants off, take a picture of his magic underwear and post it on the internet. I'm sure you know that Mormons are instructed to never ever show their magic undies to anyone. Well. . .MY bible says otherwise. Be prepared all you Mormons to have your undies on display to be viewed by all of America!

      May 13, 2012 at 10:20 am |
    • Tony

      Hey cherry, you will never be correct making bigotted and hateful statements such as yours. I suggest listening to people who are more fair minded, respectful and tolerant. Perhaps you will grow a more broad view of the world and the people with which you live. Good luck- it is not easy as you demonstrate.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:20 am |
    • O.T.

      Thank you for making my point.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:21 am |
    • O.T.

      I mean to thank DC and Tony for making my point, DC, especially for doing it in such a stark way.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:23 am |
    • DeeCee1000

      O.T., the only "point" you've made is in your tiny little head. In the real world, you haven't actually made any point. . .or any sense to be quite honest.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:25 am |
  2. O.T.

    CNN is now running numerous pieces on Mormonism. This seems an attempt to ensure that voters think of Romney as a Mormon candidate. CNN, after all, strongly supports Barack Obama. This is using religion as a political tool. It is subtle form of hate journalism.

    May 13, 2012 at 10:12 am |
    • DeeCee1000

      "hate journalism"? CNN is VERY fair in the way they've written and approached the Mormon religion. . .even if it IS an evil cult.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:15 am |
    • O.T.

      DC, look within yourself. Hatred is not a healthy emotion to carry.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:16 am |
    • O.T.

      And I said it is subtle. CNN is not going to directly attack a religious group. But it has run numerous stories on Mormonism over the last few months. Here the message is, boy these Mormons are quietly garnering a lot of power. What do you think about that? Maybe, just maybe we should be scared about it. Of course at the same time, CNN never mentions Jeremiah Wright, Obama's long-time minister/mentor who preached that America deserved 9/11 (and I did listen to the whole sermon, so I heard it in context).

      May 13, 2012 at 10:20 am |
    • DeeCee1000

      Who is "hating"? MY bible explicitly instructs me NOT to hate. . .but it also teaches that if I see a Mormon on his little bike that I should flatten his tires. That's NOT hate, it's in my bible. . .it's the holy thing to do.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:23 am |
    • O.T.

      DC, I think you've been playing hooky from bible study, either that, or you attend Rev. Jeremiah Wright's Church of Hate.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:25 am |
    • DeeCee1000

      O.T., uh no. I have my bible right here in hand and it says plain as day that "if thou shalt see a Mormon Follower riding on his bike in thy neighborhood, thou shalt flatten the tires of that Mormon Follower, for his bike is an abomination unto the Lord. . ."

      May 13, 2012 at 10:29 am |
  3. greg

    Are these the people who bike around with improper clothing on really sh&tty bikes?

    May 13, 2012 at 10:10 am |
    • DeeCee1000

      My bible says I'm allowed to flatten their tires.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:12 am |
    • O.T.

      Rank religious bigotry.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:15 am |
  4. seedenbetter

    Tom Wolfe: "A cult is a religion that has no political power"

    May 13, 2012 at 10:09 am |
  5. Betty Jean Meade

    We're coming up on the end of atheism as we know it. Long live patriotism! God Bless America and keep up all safe, healthy and concerned about one another. The lost souls of atheism will soon find their way to the glory of God where they will be loved and cared for!

    Peace be upon us all,
    Betty Jean

    May 13, 2012 at 10:07 am |
    • DeeCee1000

      Your bigotry never ceases to amaze me. All of the people who think the way you do should change their church name to "Bigots in the Name of God Church".

      May 13, 2012 at 10:11 am |
    • Betty Jean Meade

      God loves you, and so do I. There's no bigotry in my heart for any of my brothers or sisters. Only loving, caring, concern and genuine compassion. I'd hug you I I could see you.

      Betty Jean

      May 13, 2012 at 10:13 am |
    • Guest1m

      Betty Jean,

      One can be loving without being religious. I do not believe in a God, but I believe in treating other people respectfully and being generous and humane. The divide between religion and nonreligion does not have to equal the divide between love and hate.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:20 am |
    • Betty Jean Meade

      Oh, this is fun. Someone is actually talking to me. I don't know why you think religion can't be loving. I find it exactly the opposite, plus, our faith requires that we treat everyone with respect and decency, especially nonbelievers. It's the only way to nurture friendship and trust. Atheists can be cruel to us, but this is only their way of reaching out to God, and God will always find a way to reach back.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:25 am |
    • Guest1m

      I didn't say religion can't be loving. Quite the opposite actually! I suggested that either way, people can display admirable qualities. I have friends who are Christian, Muslim, and Jewish. What I think of them as people doesn't depend on their religion but how they act. I am glad that you are so respectful of others. I just hope that you don't think that atheists are not also capable of displaying similar qualities.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:31 am |
    • Betty Jean Meade

      Hello, Guest1m. We should always treat people on their own merit and not generalize. I try my best to do that, but for instance on these CCN stories, there seems to be so very much hate and antagonizm practiced by those who profess their hate for religion. It's very difficult not to be offended by and worried for atheists.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:35 am |
  6. gpforreal

    This article was well done and an eye-opener for me.
    ROCHDOC and others, I like the 'little teenage liberals' thought. It also reflects many of the atheist posts on the CNN 'belief' blog. Very nasty, lacking respect for others, and often very one-sided (we're right, you're just wrong.). CNN should police this better. I am actually very curious if this post of mine shows up; one of them yesterday, very logical and no inappropriate word choices, never showed, and I wonder why.....

    May 13, 2012 at 10:01 am |
    • Guest1m

      Do atheists only post on the "belief blog", or is it rather that atheists only have a reason to reveal their religious choice on a belief blog? I think there lacks tolerance on both ends of the spectrum. Too bad. We shouldn't need to tell each other what to believe.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:27 am |
  7. cherry

    our country became more rotten because of repubs,they are conceited and they play dirty politics...just sayin...

    May 13, 2012 at 10:00 am |
  8. Donald

    Overall it seems a fair article on the Mormon church and its members. Mormons are diverse politically and very patriotic Americans. Mormons have some unique beliefs and practices but we are not unique in being hard working people who love our country and who want to build a better future for our children.

    May 13, 2012 at 10:00 am |
    • edwardo

      They are a psychotic group of haters. They are wolves in sheep's clothing.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:06 am |
  9. Tony

    And the message is????? Yes, the US is far away from what it believes itself to be and is in the midst of a self-identification crisis. Very common evolutionary states. This story simply is about the constant evolution of mankind.

    May 13, 2012 at 9:59 am |
  10. nolimits3333

    Mormonism is a wacky religion made up to cover the lies of an adulterer.

    May 13, 2012 at 9:59 am |
  11. Pat

    Mitty's vision for the country.....I owe it to my daddy, nothing else.

    May 13, 2012 at 9:58 am |
  12. Dr.Fritz

    To John: The Mormons are a secretive cult. They have many secrets. Over the years, many of these have been exposed. Meanwhile, the Mormon PR machine has been very busy. One of the most used gimmicks is to assert, "I AM NOT A MORMON, BUT..." and then compare the fairly recent Mormon cult, with the five thousand year old actual religion of the Jews.

    The wacky Mormon doctrine doesn't concern me so much as the dishonesty of the Mormons about Mormonism. And it IS a CULT.

    May 13, 2012 at 9:58 am |
    • Maragie

      What I can't understand why all these Big Christian Ministers are backing up Mitt Rommney. Since when Mormonish is a Christian religion.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:22 am |
    • myeasyrecipebox

      wrong again my good Dr.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:40 am |
  13. US citizen...not a Mormon citizen

    Mormonism is a cult...no question about it....and they are a cult with big plans to control lots of things in this country.

    Mormons totally descriminate against others....when 10% of your salary is the REQUIRED minimum that has to go to their local Temple, then they MUST hire fellow Moromons regardless of the qualifications of others.

    When Romeny was Mass.'s governor....the state house became all Mormon. If you were Catholic, Jew, Protestant, or none religious, you were replaced by a mormon...across the board!

    A vote for Romney is a vote for the Mormon nation and their fundamentalist movement!

    May 13, 2012 at 9:57 am |
    • seedenbetter

      You just described Evangelical Christians.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:11 am |
    • Aaa

      Your comments are so incorrect it is laughable. Learn a few things about Mormonism before posting a comment that does nothing more than display your complete ignorance.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:53 am |
  14. Pat

    Mitty's vision for the country......I should be President because I have the most money.

    May 13, 2012 at 9:56 am |
  15. Debby

    Interesting and you don't hear that liberal left big mouths like Maher and Rosen insulting Reid. The Dems. are really a fickle bunch thats why our country is in rotten shape.

    May 13, 2012 at 9:56 am |
  16. Jin

    Did you know the best high school basketball player for the class of 2013 is Mormon and very active? He goes to Mormon morning seminary every morning to learn about the Bible. http://www.time.com/time/video/player/0,32068,1623555317001_2114071,00.html

    Last year's top college basketball player was Mormon, Jimmer!!!

    Australia's superstar rugby player William Hopoate is Mormon. He is 19 and he decided to give up millions and attend a church mission in Brisbane.

    The best high school outdoor mile time this year is by a Mormon. The best indoor mile high school time is by another Mormon. Both are going to attend BYU. The fastest indoor college mile time was broken by a Mormon at BYU this year.

    BYU will be in the college championship for Rugby this Saturday.

    Our faith is active in the world. We are athletes, business people, lawyers, doctors, and accountants. We are everywhere.

    May 13, 2012 at 9:55 am |
    • MalcomR

      You are everywhere. That's great. So is the e.coli bacteria. And you know where that spends most of its time...

      May 13, 2012 at 10:00 am |
    • cherry

      yeah,yeah..amen because mormons get all the higher positions,qualified or not..and of course mormons have moneys thats why you have athletes,atty,e coli....

      May 13, 2012 at 10:05 am |
    • U2

      Yes, I'm an active member of the Mormon church and I'll tell things how I've seen and experienced it. First, I used to go to the King Street chapel back in the early 90s out there in D.C.

      There are many wonderful things about the church and not so wonderful things they don't want to talk about:

      – There's too much pressure on young men to serve a mission
      – There's too much pressure on young men to get their Eagle Scout
      – There's too much pressure on young women to get their Young Women in Recognition Award
      – There's too much pressure on the youth to go to Seminary
      – There's too much pressure to be "straight." Don't believe me? Read past Ensign articles. It's not fire and brimstone articles, but very human stories about gays or lesbians who have, through the Gospel and help, managed to go straight.
      – There's too much pressure to believe the Book of Mormon is true
      – If you continue to publicly speak out or write things that are against the church, you will be disfellowshiped or excommunicated.
      – There's an Elitist group within the church. Yes, it exists. If you come from a good Mormon lineage and have a good Mormon education and good job contributing to society, you're gonna get some great callings and mingle with an upper tier. It happens in every ward I've attended my whole life. From Texas to Virginia to Norway to Minnesota. It...exists...everywhere.

      The church exists with superior control on it's members. If you follow the rules, you'll be just fine. If you're a male and don't go on a mission, you'll have a hard time finding a Mormon female companion someday. Besides, you'll have a lot of peer pressure to go on your mission. The girls have it drilled in their heads they need to marry a return missionary. Don't believe me? I go to church and my teen daughter tells me about some of her lessons during girls camp.

      I do need to go to church in a few hours and I truly mean that. The thing I need to tell member is CHILL OUT! YOU'RE SCARING NON-MEMBERS WHEN YOU SAY, "WITH A REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION, THEY'LL BE MORE MORMONS IN POSITIONS IN THE CABNET!"

      For this reason, I refuse to vote for Romney. The church needs another 100 years to grow up, get humbled at times, and realize they have too much peer pressure on their youth.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:09 am |
  17. MalcomR

    This is getting ridiculous. The largest splash on CNN's front page is a BELIEF story. About the possible future leader of the nation. When our economic, technological, educational, and environmental state is in a shambles. I am truly ashamed of the media and our so-called leadership in general.

    May 13, 2012 at 9:55 am |
  18. tnmtl

    Of course there are mormons in Washington. They have a prophecy that the church will one day take over the government of the US. Do not vote for Mitt, who is Mormon first and American second. And please! They whine about religious bigotry all the time, but keep in mind it's a fact they believe ALL other Christian denominations were/are inspired by Satan (it's in their scriptures and they reinforce thie belief every day in their temples).

    May 13, 2012 at 9:55 am |
  19. Pat

    The lunacy will only end when all relgion is replaced by spirituality.

    May 13, 2012 at 9:54 am |
  20. heardthatonebefore

    It really just sounds like yet another variation of the classic Good 'Ole Boy network. This country runs on cronyism of all sorts.

    May 13, 2012 at 9:52 am |
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