Is the black church guilty of spiritual hypocrisy in same-sex marriage debate?
Delman Coates at Mt. Ennon Baptist Church is among a minority of black ministers in Maryland who have endorsed gay rights.
May 12th, 2012
08:00 AM ET

Is the black church guilty of spiritual hypocrisy in same-sex marriage debate?

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) - Some people wonder if the black church will punish President Barack Obama for announcing support for same-sex marriage.

Here’s another question:

Why would the black church cite scripture to exclude gays when a similar approach to the Bible was used to enslave their ancestors?

“It’s so unfortunate,” says James Cone, one the nation’s most influential black theologians and author of “The Cross and the Lynching Tree.”

“The literal approach to scripture was used to enslave black people,” he says. “I’ve said many times in black churches that the black church is on the wrong side of history on this. It’s so sad because they were on the right side of history in their own struggle.”

Call it historical irony: Black church leaders arguing against same-sex marriage are making some of the same arguments that supporters of slavery made in the 18th and 19th centuries, some historians say. Both groups adopted a literal reading of the Bible to justify withholding basic rights from a particular group.

CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories

Opposition to gay rights is not the standard position of all black churches. Still, while several predominately white mainline denominations have officially accepted gays and lesbians in various forms, the vast majority of black churches still consider homosexuality a sin.

Black church leaders recently helped lead a successful drive to amend North Carolina’s constitution to ban same-sex marriage. The Rev. Fred Robinson, a black pastor in Charlotte, says most black churchgoers aren’t hypocrites. They take scripture, and sin, seriously.

“Black people are not confused,” Robinson says. “If you look at the scriptures that oppose homosexuality, Old and New Testament, they are clearer cut than the ones people used to justify slavery.”

Yet there are other factors beyond the Bible that shape the black church’s resistance to same-sex marriage.

“It’s more than scripture – it’s history, culture, how we were raised,” says the Rev. Tim McDonald, founder of the African American Ministers Leadership Council.

Some black church leaders are still fighting hard just to persuade straight black couples to marry. Accepting same-sex marriage when so many black households lack a husband and wife makes McDonald uneasy.

“I am not comfortable performing a wedding ceremony of the same sex,” says McDonald, an Obama supporter. “That’s just where I am.”

Some black pastors, however, embrace a literal approach to the Bible not just to exclude gays but to get rid of competition, says Edward Blum, a San Diego State University historian.

Some black pastors cite New Testament passages such as Paul’s demand that women keep silent in churches to argue against black women in the pulpit.

That argument is harder to make when black women’s energy and donations form the backbone of the black church, Blum says, but some still get away with it.

“The biblical literalist reading has kept male leadership in power in a church that is hugely female,” Blum says. “It keeps power in men’s hands.”

The one book that mattered

Black churches also embrace a literal reading of the scripture because of its unique history, says Blum, author of “W.E.B. DuBois, American Prophet.”

During slavery and segregation, many blacks saw the Bible as the one document they could trust. The Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, state and local laws – all found some way to ignore their humanity, Blum says.

The Bible, though, was one book that told them that they weren’t slaves or three-fifths of a person, Blum says.

It said they were children of God.

“Throughout the 18th and 19th century, what document could they trust?” Blum says. “When the Bible says it’s so, it’s something that black people believed they could trust.”

Their enemies, though, used that same veneration of the Bible against them. Slaveholders had a simple but powerful argument when critics challenged them: Trust the Bible.

They cited scriptures such as Ephesians 6:5. (“Slaves, be obedient to those who are your earthly masters, with fear and trembling. ...”) And they said Jesus preached against many sins, but never against slavery.

Since the Bible is infallible, and scripture sanctions slavery, it must be part of God’s order, slaveholders concluded.

“Slavery is everywhere in the Bible,” Blum says. “When Americans who were in favor of slavery defended it with the Bible, they had a treasure trove of clear biblical passages that accepted enslavement.”

Blum says abolitionists found it difficult to mount an effective counterargument. They couldn’t just say trust the Bible. They preached another approach to scriptures.

They said you couldn’t enslave people based on the Golden Rule: Do unto others as you would have them do to you. (Obama cited the Golden Rule and his Christian faith in supporting same-sex marriage).

“The abolitionist turned to the ethics and spirit of the Bible,” Blum says. “They were theological modernists before modernism.”

And what are black clergy and churchgoers today when they cite the Bible to oppose same-sex marriage?

Robinson, the North Carolina pastor, says they’re not homophobes.

“It says in the Bible that homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God,” he says. “How do you explain that one away? A lot of honest Christians are not trying to hate homosexuals. They’re saying that if I take the Bible seriously, I’m not sure I can say it’s right.”

Robinson says that some opposition to homosexuality is actually based in compassion:

“If I’m concerned about your soul, I have to tell you the truth in love.”

Cone, who teaches at Union Theological Seminary in New York City, says black churchgoers opposed to same-sex marriage are instead mimicking their ancestors’ oppressors.

“I tell some people, ‘These people were against you.’ They would have lynched you. How are you going to now join them and help them lynch somebody else?’”

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Barack Obama • Christianity • Culture wars • Gay marriage • Gay rights • Homosexuality • Politics

soundoff (4,348 Responses)
  1. Lo

    Non-Christians should convert or be exported from the US

    Zero tolerence!

    May 12, 2012 at 11:13 am |
    • MalcomR

      I'd leave voluntarily if I could afford it. This country has become a joke. And if all of the other non-believers followed me, you'd be in really good shape, now wouldn't ya? 95% of scientists, engineers, doctors, and anyone with an IQ over 120. Good riddance, morons.

      May 12, 2012 at 11:18 am |
    • John

      You are an idiot. If all the Atheists in the U.S. would be forced to leave, we would lose 93% of the members of the National Academy of Sciences, and less than 1% of our prison population. You seem to spend your time in the shallow end of that gene pool.

      May 12, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
    • rkulla

      Not even the craziest serious right-wing politicians would agree with saying that all americans should either convert to Christianity or leave the country, because that is an extremely unamerican thing to say, not to mention unbelievably moronic. But something tells me you're just a 12 year with no real understanding of the world and if you're not pray harder for more brain cells.

      May 12, 2012 at 1:15 pm |
    • edwardo

      I would just tell you I believe, and fake it. You know, live in hypocricy like Xtians do.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:04 pm |
    • hehe

      row row row "your" boat

      May 12, 2012 at 5:40 pm |
    • Jeff Williams

      """Non-Christians should convert or be exported from the US"""

      Now THERE's a clever strategy that would lead to a massive brain drain of biblical proportions.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
    • Joe Cogan

      Sure is dark under that bridge!

      May 13, 2012 at 10:46 am |

      I think he's just being sarcastic...

      May 13, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
    • iu

      who needs our scientists anyway...china and india have better scientists and are much cheaper. we may as well outsource them too.

      you can afford to leave anytime. im sure there are plenty of people here that would buy you a ticket if you promise to never return.

      May 14, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
    • starman

      Sounds very Hitler like eh?

      May 14, 2012 at 4:28 pm |
    • Rob

      I don't agree with Lo at all.
      However, I think your comments about IQ and religion is absurd. Please provide the study that you quote your statistics from as I highly doubt there validity. Unless you are form California, then I am sure they are spot on.

      May 14, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
  2. t3chsupport

    Oh, the irony. He's uncomfortable with households that won't have both a mother and a father in the house, but how many black families have fathers at all? The numbers are pretty damning. If that's their argument, then they need to do a better job of raising their boys to be good fathers, instead of doing what seems to be the classic African thing to do – spread your seed, consequences bedamned, but hey! Follow the bible... on Sundays.

    At least gay men won't be leaving women with children they can't take care of.

    It sounds really racist when I put it this way, but that doesn't mean it's not true.

    May 12, 2012 at 11:13 am |
    • peter

      It is...your comment stereotypes and is no more than a racist rant.

      May 12, 2012 at 11:17 am |
    • Joe Cogan

      It probably sounds really racist when you put it that way because it is.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:47 am |
    • pete

      It does "sound" racist, but it's been the basis for many studies and its overwhelmingly true, so take your medicine even if its a tough pill to swallow.

      I can work on cleaning up my own house, but don't be delusional about your own issues.

      May 14, 2012 at 12:41 pm |
    • Tammy

      You have every right to point fingers at the black community. You can be certain that black fingers are pointing at you every Sunday.

      May 14, 2012 at 5:39 pm |
  3. Nick

    When will CNN put up the opposing viewpoint in big, bold letters on their website, just as they've been doing for the last few days for pro-gay views? This is getting a little old....

    May 12, 2012 at 11:12 am |
    • MalcomR

      Go away.

      May 12, 2012 at 11:14 am |
    • John Blair


      May 12, 2012 at 11:17 am |
    • Brandi

      Exactly right. The reason is because it's cool & hip right now to act as if perversion is socially acceptable. It's just a phase – the reigns on decency and morality will be pulled back in as time goes on. Maybe not in our lifetimes, but they will.

      May 12, 2012 at 11:25 am |
    • Jake

      Wolf Blitzer wet his pants reporting on the Presodent's evolution.

      May 12, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
    • Margaret Whitestone

      We've already heard plenty from the bigot brigade, thank you very much.

      May 12, 2012 at 9:04 pm |
    • Joe Cogan

      Because bigots deserve equal time!

      May 13, 2012 at 10:49 am |
  4. hang3xc

    "Both groups adopted a literal reading of the Bible to justify withholding basic rights from a particular group."

    Except gay marriage is NOT a "basic right". Marriage is, but between a man & woman. Two consenting adults should be able to do date who they want, but marriage should be reserved for the NATURAL pairing of man & woman. Two men cannot make a child, nor can 2 women. Sure, these days there are ways around it, but it is NOT natural. Man on man interc ourse is NOT natural. The r ectum is NOT a v agina. Two women can't even have interc ourse without a foreign object. It's NOT natural at all. Sadly, within 10 years, or MUCH sooner, gay marriage will be legal in every state. It's the "IN" thing these days. In school your are almost a hero for coming out. Kids that aren't even gay are getting into it. Wonderful.

    May 12, 2012 at 11:12 am |
    • travisgentry

      If man on man is not natural, then why has it been going on since the dawn of recorded history? And why are there plenty examples of male on male in the animal kingdom? Sounds pretty natural to me.

      May 12, 2012 at 11:23 am |
    • Kara

      @travisgentry: Because genetic flaws have been in existence since the dawn of time, in all species. So the fact that some species are born with a defect is natural, yes. But a defect is not the norm or the standard blueprint.

      May 12, 2012 at 11:28 am |
    • Moi

      Seriously? Because it's been going on for so long it must be natural. Well murder has been going on forever as has other things like: in cest, r ape, op pression, theft, se x with children but as mankind has 'evolved' they have tried (some societies still don't care) to put an end to these things or punish those who won't stop. I'm not equating this to being gay but just commenting on your point that if its been going on for long it must be natural.

      May 12, 2012 at 11:42 am |
    • Adam C

      But wait a minute Kara. If god created every human in his image, how could being gay be a genetic flaw? Do you mean to say that god made an error?

      May 12, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
    • Kubush

      But those things are natural! To say something is "natural" or not, doesn't say anything about it's moral aspect. And that is why it's silly to argue against gay marriage by saying it is "unnatural".

      May 12, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
  5. RD

    Peter you need prayer.

    May 12, 2012 at 11:11 am |
    • edwardo

      RD – you need help.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:05 pm |
  6. JM

    according to the passage quoted above, no 'wrongdoers' will inherit the kingdom of God; the list includes idolaters, the greedy, slanderers.

    I would say this includes all of us. Most of us put (idolize) other things before God: families, jobs, reputation, money, homes, flat screen tvs, smart phones...

    According to Jesus' teachings, none of us deserve heaven/forgiveness but God is merciful to everyone.

    May 12, 2012 at 11:11 am |
    • MalcomR

      It's funny, isn't it? Only a very few will get into heaven, and they all think it's going to be them! What a bunch of brainwashed fools.

      May 12, 2012 at 11:13 am |
    • JM

      Jesus was most critical of the self-righteous judgmental religious people who thought a lot about themselves and looked down on everyone else, the 'sinners'. Jesus hung out with 'everyone else'. This world is nuts; where's the love?

      May 12, 2012 at 11:18 am |
    • Scott

      Great post "JM". Why does the media always cite urban legend type of 'sins' as though one is worse than the other. Regardless if one lies, steals, cheats, covets, idolatry, or is gay, its all bad and it causes inequity before God. Simple. And where did CNN get the idea that the Bible cite a verse talking of enslaving black ancestors? There is no verse or passage that cites anything about black enslavement. There are passages of enslavement in the Old Testament but not pertaining to a specific ethnic group from Africa. If this is what black pastor's are teaching their black congregations in America, we will never see cohesiveness from them. The idea that black enslavement is mentioned in the Bible is a myth.

      May 12, 2012 at 11:22 am |
  7. tom

    Can youi imagine the outrage and backlash if someone decided to open a "White Church"? ALso how can these 'hypocites' not see the difference when the gov't as recently as 60yrs ago decided it was against the law for white people and black people to get married? How'd y'all feel about that? How is it the gov't's right to tell ANYONE who they can marry or love? It's pure hypocracy whether you want that label on it or not.

    May 12, 2012 at 11:10 am |
    • peter

      Do you think marriage between a person and animal, adult or child, or even a group of people is the same? Where's the people who want to legalize polygamy in America?

      May 12, 2012 at 11:13 am |
    • JM

      23 That same day the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to him with a question. 24 “Teacher,” they said, “Moses told us that if a man dies without having children, his brother must marry the widow and raise up offspring for him. 25 Now there were seven brothers among us. The first one married and died, and since he had no children, he left his wife to his brother. 26 The same thing happened to the second and third brother, right on down to the seventh. 27 Finally, the woman died. 28 Now then, at the resurrection, whose wife will she be of the seven, since all of them were married to her?”

      29 Jesus replied, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. 31 But about the resurrection of the dead—have you not read what God said to you, 32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’[b]? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.”

      May 12, 2012 at 11:13 am |
    • Jake

      Black churches can have white people too. lol I've been to one. They don't kick you out. Its just that black folks like to congregate together in communities and in church. And white folk do the same. Many churches are all white. But if a black man walked in he wouldn't be kicked out. Its not these churches are being racist for being predominantly one race.

      May 12, 2012 at 11:18 am |
    • Heather


      Such a lame argument... Animals and Children cannot consent.

      May 14, 2012 at 6:56 pm |
  8. Bill

    LOOK AT THE HATERS....BELOW. Im Black, Im Christian..... WHY CANT BLACK CHRISTIANS.....Love Thy Neighbor and Do Unto Others...as They Would Want Done unto Themselves. WHY? Black Christians...... go out and find a young or older black Gay person..... to have lunch or dinner with. GET to KNOW someone.... you might be surprised. If you continue to FEAR and HATE ...without even knowing someone....YOU ARE GUILTY of the same HATRED.....that White Supremacists and KKK in the 1950s had for Black People... WAKE UP Black Christians...to the BIGGER PICTURE

    May 12, 2012 at 11:09 am |
  9. Voice of Reason

    To say, at the very least, this religious intolerance has no place in an evolving society. Moral progress will continue and yes as natural selection supports reason and logic in this natural world, religious intolerance will paradigm towards religious tolerance. Once this tolerance is established and believers can discern that morality is a byproduct of social evolution and not formed in some supernatural way, it will be then and only then our species can work toward a greater humanity.

    May 12, 2012 at 11:08 am |
    • MalcomR

      Nice sentiment. Let me clarify for you: Screw religion.

      May 12, 2012 at 11:11 am |
    • Jeremy

      Great post – well said.

      May 12, 2012 at 11:30 am |
  10. Hadenuffyet

    “The literal approach to scripture was used to enslave black people,”....
    I don't think there was any discrimination in slavery , if you were of another kingdom or people and you were defeated in battle you became a slave of the victors , regardless of race.

    May 12, 2012 at 11:08 am |
    • Ed

      The point is that many slave owners justified the practice because slavery is condoned in the Bible.

      May 12, 2012 at 11:13 am |
    • Scott

      @Ed; slavery was not condoned but it was part of the times. That is not condoning slavery. Also, simply knowing that slavery or any sinful or unlawful act that existed is not in itself condoning such as act. As it is today, robbing a bank is unlawful and you pay the price when caught. Examples of breaking the law in Old Testament times were also used to teach people examples and the punishment of such acts. Also, God instructed those in slavery to obey the law and worship God just that same as anyone not in slavery. Regardless of your economic situation in life, the point was that all of us need to worship God and obey Him. The same goes for the New Testament teachings from Christ.

      May 12, 2012 at 11:34 am |
    • Joe Cogan

      @ Scott – what nonsense! Adultery and stealing were also "part of the time", but the Bible forbids them outright, yet instead of prohibiting slavery, it gives guidelines on how to practice it. That counts as condoning it to anyone who isn't in a state of deep denial.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:54 am |
  11. just me

    It's time for black religious leaders AND white religious leaders to step up and champion civil rights for all people. Failure to do so only exposes their lust for spiritual exclusivity and power. If they continue to preach discrimination, and that's what anti-gay marriage sermonizing is, people will leave the church. Stop the hate, America – God is not on the side of hate.

    May 12, 2012 at 11:08 am |
    • 1crusader

      I am black, a Christian; and don't hate anyone-as , I think, most Christians feel.However, this article makes some assertions about Scripture on several issues, that's incorrect.Ultimately, this will be a legal issue.

      May 12, 2012 at 6:11 pm |
  12. MalcomR

    I can't believe all of this subservient whimpering and bowing and scraping before the "church" by both of our political parties. It's disgusting. Anyone who doesn't cringe with embarrassment is an idiot.

    May 12, 2012 at 11:08 am |
  13. Whatever

    Congratulations Black America. This is why your gay and lesbian children are committing suicide faster than any other segment. Why are you facilitating the spread bigotry and hate? As black americans- you, more than any other segment of society should be embraceing and empathiseing with the gay and lesbian brothers and sisters also dealing with a history of oppression and intollerence. Shame on the black churches that are hypocrites! Shame on the followers for blinidly following these misguided pastors.

    May 12, 2012 at 11:07 am |
    • jbthedon

      People make me sick when they equate black civil rights and gay civil rights. Gay people were not slave, gay people were not wide spread lynched, gay people were not denied voting. We are not in the same stuggle stop.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:39 pm |
    • house

      Actually, there are studies, that suggest otherwise...

      May 12, 2012 at 5:46 pm |
    • JKhur

      DIsabked people were not slaves, nor were the aged, nor were women as a class yet each has had their civl rights protected becaause of the perscution they faced. Why should gays be treated any differently?

      May 12, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
  14. Jd

    This entire article was written to help Obama get re-elected. It's a plea to some of obamas most important supporters to not abandon him for their beliefs. not that their is anything wrong that..... Just wondering why this is on the front page of a major news outlet.

    May 12, 2012 at 11:07 am |
    • madrep

      Agreed. Well stated and my thoughts on this article exactly. CNN published articles in 08 110% behind Obama. It's only going to get worse going forward this year to November. Sad, but, it's like we vote for the best of the worst anymore. When will we have a real Leader instead of one that casts blame everywhere? The buck STOPS with the Pres. That is "why" he is in that position. But in this case, I wonder if it is all self ego and not for the good of our Great Nation! I am sick of hearing how Obama apologizes for American Arrogance. It's not American's that are arrogant. It's Oil! Always has, always will be. Then, Obama does not approve a pipeline that would aid us in our oil independence. He is, sadly but true, one of the worst Presidents, along with Carter, another Liberal, that is country has ever had. Doubled debt, makes conditions with our Enemies, alienates our allies,...people he has to go in November. I think he and his family have done more for racial tensions in the country than any other Pres. ever! Keep the Hollywood vote Obama, real Americans will vote this time around. Not just people being bussed either...people who work for a living for your high lifestyle. Real middle class people. How's that Green Energy working for you. How is the "more" transparency working for you...i.e.. Health Care passed behind closed doors...etc...etc...etc... Now CNN throws in a Bible segment to sway some black voters that may be on the fence. What nerve. Question, is CNN owned by Ted Turner still? Just asking. The one who married the TRADER FONDA! Says it all doesn't it?

      May 12, 2012 at 11:18 am |
  15. Doobie Doobie Doo

    There's no hypocrisy. It's been a standard belief in all religions.

    May 12, 2012 at 11:04 am |
    • Brandi

      Exactly. End of discussion.

      May 12, 2012 at 11:08 am |
    • house

      Not all religions...

      May 12, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • Roallin

      This is a secular state so religion beliefs should have no bearing on this. All people deserver equal rights rights under the law of the land. If your preiest/rabbi/eman doesn't want to mary gay couples, than so be it. But anyone should be able to get married at the courthouse.

      May 14, 2012 at 11:52 am |
  16. robert

    religion and hipocrisy are synonymous.

    May 12, 2012 at 11:03 am |
  17. Dawn

    What on earth is "the black church"?

    May 12, 2012 at 11:03 am |
    • Doobie Doobie Doo

      LOL!! I was just thinking that.

      May 12, 2012 at 11:05 am |
    • Clark

      I guess it would be OK to start a group called the White Church?

      May 12, 2012 at 11:06 am |
    • Chuck

      Do they hold the Black mass there? Celebrate the Black Sabbath?

      May 12, 2012 at 11:09 am |
    • Hadenuffyet

      I guess it would be OK to start a group called the White Church?....
      There was/is ...it's called the KKK .

      May 12, 2012 at 11:10 am |
  18. David

    -procreation-: a state interest.

    May 12, 2012 at 11:02 am |
    • hehe

      no shoes for you ma'am...

      May 12, 2012 at 5:50 pm |
  19. MajorCrisis

    Literal interpretation of the Bible is so patently stupid that it is impossible to take anyone serious who follows this approach. You run into very difficult problems before you have left the first 5 books of OT, let alone the rest of the Bible. Jesus himself obviously did not use a literal interpretation of the Mosaic Law. Why would someone not follow the example of God himself?

    Literalism would be a laughable thing, except that literalists have cost society so much life, creativity, happieness, hope and spiritual progress. Literalists are a blight. Fortunately, they have always historically lost.

    And yes, if Blacks want to read hatred of gays into the Bible, they best be ready for the consequences. Even the Devil can cite the words of scripture. Life is just not that easy.

    May 12, 2012 at 11:02 am |
  20. IN GOD WE TRUST!!!!!!

    Few 100% true Reasons why Atheism is TERRIBLE and unhealthy for our children and living things:

    † Atheism is a religion that makes you angry, stupid, brainwashed, ignorant & blind.
    † Atheism is a disease that needs to be treated.
    † Atheism makes you post stupid things (90% of silly comments here on CNN blogs are posted by closet Atheists)
    † Atheist are satanic and have gothic lifestyle.
    † Atheists are misguided and causes problem in our religious & public society.
    † Atheists are mentally ill, that's why they have no faith.
    † Atheism won't take you to kingdom of heaven and paradise.
    † Atheism making you agree with Stalin, Hitler (Denied his faith later), Mao, Pol Pot & other terrible mass murder leaders.
    † No traditional family lifestyle, no holidays, no culture, boring and feeling 'outsider'
    † Atheists are angry, drug additcted and committ the most crime.
    † Atheist try to convert people over internet because they feel "safer" behind closet.
    † Atheists do not really exist, they just pretend that they don't believe in God and argue with religious people.
    † Atheists have had terrible life experience, bad childhood and not being loved.
    † Most Atheists are uneducated... No Atheists could run for presidency.
    † Atheism brought upon the French Revolution, one of the most evil events of all of history.
    † Atheism cannot explain the origins of the universe, therefore God exists.
    † All atheists believe in evolution, which means they don't believe in morality and think we should all act like animals.
    † The Bible says atheism is wrong, and the Bible is always right (see: Genesis 1:1, Psalms 14:1, Psalms 19:1, Romans 1:19-20)
    † Countries where Atheism is prevalent has the highest Suicide rate & Communist countries = Atheism!
    **Only 2-3% of the U.S. are Atheists/Agnostics VS. over 90% who believe in God (80% Christians) in the U.S.**

    † † Our Prayers goes to Atheists to be mentally healthy and seek their creator † †

    PS! the USA is a Christian nation and will always be.

    May 12, 2012 at 11:01 am |
    • Clark

      Get back on your meds.

      May 12, 2012 at 11:05 am |
    • JOe

      They're doing great things with antipsychotic medications these days. Why not try some?

      May 12, 2012 at 11:06 am |
    • Chuck


      May 12, 2012 at 11:06 am |
    • jtodd

      Wow, you are totally psycho...and using the bible to justify things in the bible is rhetorical. I don't need to look at a book that is 1000's of years old to tell me how to be a good person or how to treat people equally.

      May 12, 2012 at 11:08 am |
    • yearofmonkey

      Wow, your arguments are just what one needs to become a true believer. Where did you get all these statistics from btw?

      May 12, 2012 at 11:18 am |
    • lolTROLL

      +1, you all got trolled

      May 12, 2012 at 11:20 am |
    • MalcomR

      Oh lordy, lordy, this is funny! Where's the "bump" button to keep this at the top of the post list?

      May 12, 2012 at 11:22 am |
    • Jerry

      My friend God told me to tell you you are hell bound. :>}

      May 12, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
    • Realist

      It would be helpful if you would at least educate yourself on the definition of Atheism. By definition is rejection of belief in God/Deities and religion. Therefore – it is not a religion, but the absence of religion. It is not a disease, it is a belief based on skepticism. Before judging and pointing fingers about Atheism making people do stupid things...let us first define stupidity: slow of mind, lacking intelligence or reason. Remember that definition because it will be key to understanding the rest of this...right it down if you have to...I know it's a lot to comprehend.
      Atheists are not satanic...follow me here...we have already determined Atheism by definition is the rejection of belief in deities. Satan is also known as Lucifer – the archangel cast from heaven by God. Now, if Atheists reject religion, God and deities...does it make sense to call them Satanic since that would require them to believe there is a God, Angels, and a Satan to begin with? Let me help you out – No, that doesn't make sense. It is what we educated folks call a hypocrisy.
      Evident through the points above and those to come – I do not think you quite have the foundation nor do you have a strong enough grasp on reality to accuse anyone else of being misguided. Furthermore, your ignorance and bigotry is far more damaging to religion and public society than any Atheist I have ever met.
      I am sure some Atheists probably do suffer from mental illness, just as some Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus and people of other faiths do. However, to accuse all Atheists of being mentally ill and to offer the fact that they have no faith as proof is a slippery slope and simply invalid. Which sounds more mentally ill: (A) Someone who chooses not to believe in a bearded omnipotent man floating in the clouds behind pearly gates to constantly cater to spiritually lazy masses that use him as a magic eraser of all their dirty deeds, as a genie to answer all of their wishes and as a Godly baby sitter? Or does it seem that maybe those that do believe that to be God's purpose are possibly mentally questionable..or at the very least too mentally lazy to think for themselves and apply common sense.
      Your accusation of Atheism making people agree with mass murders is again based completely on ignorance. Research your history...do you even realize how many wars have been ignited and fought over religion (again – Atheists do not believe in religion)? Do you have any clue how many people have died by the wrath of Christian leaders? Let's just look at our recent history: Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, and Bush Jr....all of Christian or Catholic faith – how many people have died during the Vietnam and Operation Enduring Freedom wars?
      Atheists have family traditions and values, they are just not based on religion. By the way, did you know that the Christian holidays such as Easter and Christmas were originally Pagan holidays that predate the Christian faith all together? Yep – again do your research you silly heathen, you.
      Atheists are not angry, drug addicted people that commit the most crimes...because they use common sense and obviously cannot find the same type of quality drugs you are on my friend. Furthermore, I guarantee if you walk into and do a poll in any prison across the US...most inmates will be Christian or Catholic.
      They try to convert people? Really? What are you doing right now on the internet behind your closet?
      Atheists do exist and their sole purpose is to laugh at idiots like you.
      Most Atheists are uneducated? Really? Did you know that 85% of the world's scientists are Atheists?
      Considering the fact that 85% of Scientists are Atheists, they have more tangible proof to support their theories and they don't require faith in invisible beings...I would say they are doing just fine explaining the origins of the universe.
      Atheists and many others of all different faiths, including Christians do believe in evolution...because again there is tangible proof and evidence to back it. Where is yours?
      Of course your bible says Atheism is wrong...because if it said anything else was right...the bible would have to be wrong...and it would be to confusing to have to actually think for yourself.
      Now let's focus on your God a bit...does he not say Love thy neighbor, judge not lest ye be judged, do unto others as you would have done unto you, and so on?
      Do you not see that you are judging, spreading hate, ignorance, bigotry and not living or acting Christ-Like by casting stones at all others? Do you dare to presume that you are Godly enough to do God's bidding for him by judging others for him? Isn't he the one that is suppose to make the judgements? Aren't you doing exactly what he told you not to do? THINK!
      Jesus was a man that would walk the amongst the poor, the sick, the hungry and would aide them and heal them...not judge them and condemn them for not believing one way or another and leave them to suffer...he didn't care...he saw that they were people that needed love and compassion and so he gave them just that. He did not divide people ..he accepted them all. Jesus is given the name Christ because he was Christ like in his actions and words. That is what you are suppose to be practicing – how to be Christ-like...that is how you follow the footsteps of Jesus. Pointing fingers, damning and condemning others while you look down your noses in judgment of them is more aligned with Satan's work than the work of Jesus...so before you post another hate speech...THINK! Are you acting as Jesus would or as Satan would? You my friend have a lot to learn.

      By the way...I am not an Atheist or an Agnostic...but, I am a spiritualist.

      May 12, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
    • GOD

      You belong in prison.

      May 12, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
    • Thomas

      Stereotypes of atheists. How does it feel, atheists?

      May 14, 2012 at 11:37 am |
    • starman

      Tinfoil cap time?

      May 14, 2012 at 4:31 pm |
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