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May 13th, 2012
01:07 PM ET

Across country, black pastors weigh in on Obama's same-sex marriage support

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

Washington (CNN) - Addressing his large, mostly black congregation on Sunday morning, the Rev. Wallace Charles Smith did not mince words about where he stood on President Barack Obama's newly announced support for same-sex marriage: The church is against it, he said, prompting shouts of "Amen!" from the pews.

And yet Smith hardly issued a full condemnation of the president.

"We may disagree with our president on this one issue," Smith said from the pulpit of the Shiloh Baptist Church in Washington. "But we will keep him lifted up in prayer. ... Pray for President Barack Obama."

And Smith said there were much bigger challenges facing the black community - "larger challenges that we have to struggle with" - bringing his full congregation to its feet, with many more amens.

Days after Obama announced his personal support for same-sex marriage, pastors across the country offered their Sunday-morning opinions on the development, with the words of black pastors - a key base of support for Obama in 2008, that is also largely opposed to gay marriage - carrying special weight in a presidential election year.But black pastors were hardly monolithic in addressing Obama's remarks.

In Baltimore, Emmett Burns, a politically well-connected black minister who said he supported Obama in 2008, held an event at Rising Sun Baptist Church to publicly withdraw support from the president over Obama's same-sex marriage support.

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"I love the president, but I cannot support what he has done," Burns said at the church.

In an interview with CNN, Burns predicted that Obama's support for legalized same-sex marriage would lead to his defeat in November.

The Rev. Calvin Butts, an influential black pastor in New York City, did not endorse Obama's views but denounced those who are ready to "watch others be discriminated against, marginalized, and literally hated in the name of God."

"Our God is love," he said.

And like Smith in Washington, plenty of black ministers talked about distinguishing between opposition to same-sex marriage and views about Obama.

"I don't see how you cannot talk about it," the Rev. Tim McDonald, based in Atlanta, said earlier this week. "I have to. You can say I'm opposed to it (same-sex marriage), but that doesn't mean I'm against the president."

Though African-Americans provided Obama with record support in 2008, they are also significantly more likely to oppose same-sex marriage than are whites. That may be because black Americans are more likely to frequently attend church than white Americans.

A Pew Research Center poll conducted in April found that 49% of African-Americans oppose legalized same-sex marriage, compared with 39% who support it. Among whites, by contrast, Pew found that 47% supported gay marriage, while 43% opposed it.

African-American pastors have been prominent in the movement to ban same-sex marriage. In North Carolina, black leaders helped lead the successful campaign for a constitutional amendment prohibiting gay marriage and domestic partnerships.

In California, 70% of African-Americans supported Prop 8, the 2008 state gay marriage ban, even though 94% of black voters in California backed Obama.

McDonald, who founded a group called the African-American Ministers Leadership Council, says he opposes same-sex marriage, but that he is more concerned about issues such as health care, education and jobs.

But he says more black pastors are talking about same-sex marriage than ever before. "Three years ago, there was not even a conversation about this issue," McDoland says. "There wasn't even an entertainment of a conversation about this."

In Atlanta, at the historic Ebenezer Baptist Church - where Martin Luther King Jr. got his start - the Rev. Ralph Warnock addressed the president's remarks near the end of his sermon.

"The president is entitled to his opinion," Warnock said. "He is the president of the United States, not the pastor of the United States."

Warnock said that there is a place for gays in the church, and that "we don't have to solve this today."

Black churchgoers on Sunday appeared split on same-sex marriage, though many of those opposed to it said they still supported Obama.

"It's a human rights issue, not a gay issue. All people that pay taxes should get ... the same privileges and rights," said Terence Johnson, a congregant at Salem Bible Church in Atlanta.

At Shiloh Baptist in Washington, Shauna King said she does not support same-sex marriage, but that she respects the president's decision on it.

"I think he was very honest in what he was saying and personally he decided to do that," said the 38-year-old mother of two. "As individuals, we all have to make that decision for ourselves."

"I believe it speaks to what America is," she said. "That we all have different views and are respected for our views individually."

Black opposition to same-sex marriage has dropped dramatically in recent years. In 2008, Pew found that 63% of African-Americans opposed gay marriage, 14 percentage points higher than the proportion who expressed opposition this year.

On Friday, a handful of black leaders, including the Rev. Al Sharpton and former NAACP leader Julian Bond, released a letter supporting Obama's position on same-sex marriage but expressing respect for those who disagree.

"The president made clear that his support is for civil marriage for same-sex couples, and he is fully committed to protecting the ability of religious institutions to make their own decisions about their own sacraments," the letter said.

"There will be those who seek to use this issue to divide our community," it continued. "As a people, we cannot afford such division."

But the letter itself was an implicit acknowledgement of discord within the African-American church community on gay marriage.

Black pastors who preach in favor of same-sex marriage know they may pay a price if they take Obama's position, says Bishop Carlton Pearson.

The Chicago-based black minister says he lost his church building and about 6,000 members when he began preaching that gays and lesbians were accepted by God.

"That's the risk that people take," he told CNN. "A lot of preachers actually don't have a theological issue. It's a business decision. They can't afford to lose their parishioners and their parsonages and salaries."

Pearson navigates the tension between the Bible's calls for holiness and justice this way: "I take the Bible seriously, just not literally," he says. "It's more important what Jesus said about God than what the church says about Jesus."

In Obama's interview with ABC this week, in which he announced his personal support for same-sex marriage, the president talked about squaring his decision with his personal religious faith.

"We are both practicing Christians, and obviously this position may be considered to put us at odds with the views of others," Obama said, referring to his wife, Michelle.

"But, you know, when we think about our faith, the thing at root that we think about is, not only Christ sacrificing himself on our behalf, but it's also the Golden Rule," he said. "Treat others the way you would want to be treated."

- CNN’s John Blake, Chris Boyette, Meridith Edwards, Dan Merica and Stephanie Siek contributed to this report.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: 2012 Election • Barack Obama • Gay marriage • Politics

soundoff (3,700 Responses)
  1. Keel Hauler

    It's no secret that CNN is a politically-correct, biased news service that practices blatant favoritism and race-baiting. But I ddidn't realize until today that you can't even type the word "black" on FOX's website without it being blocked.

    May 14, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Probably the same reason that you can not say Ja'panese on CNN.

      The politically correct patrols have districts on FoxNews just like here on CNN.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
  2. Roy Snipes

    Whether you like it or not. YOU CANNOT BE A CHRISTIAN AND BE GAY OR SUPPORT A GAY LIFESTYLE. Most use the word Christian as an adjective.....Christian gays, Christian tatoo artist, Christian Rock, Christian whatever. SHAME SHAME SHAME. You can say all you want, But you cannot believe in the bible and this filth.

    May 14, 2012 at 1:02 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      Filth is subjective.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:04 pm |
    • yeahalright

      Your bible is filth. I cannot believe you're alive, but there you are. You don't get to tell people what they can and can't believe.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
    • mamivaqui

      filth? And you call yourself Christian while you call others names? Many of us, the president included, support these ideas BEACUSE we are Christians. Go grab some stones and throw them to the adulterers, your bible tells you so.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
    • Lynda Jones-Owings

      It is okay for America to murder people and the bible states do not kill; but we are killing people everywhere. Is that okay. God gave us five sinces to think, determine, understand and not to judge. He is the only one "God" who is in a position to judge anyone. These are human beings and they were created by the same God that everyone else was created by. So he will be the one to judge them, not YOU!!

      May 14, 2012 at 1:12 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Roy, I do not know about that and at the most if you consider it a sin and it isn't killing anyone, then maybe it should be between them and God. I attended a service at a Gay and Lesbian church once in New York and I did not see that much difference in worship and desire for God in their lives than at a mainstream church. That there were families there, ...two parent families made it a even harder argument to actively stand against Gay marriage.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:15 pm |
    • J.W

      So Roy have you kept every word of the Bible perfectly?

      May 14, 2012 at 1:19 pm |
    • Bruce

      Using your logic, you can't be a christian if you cheat on your spouse, are greedy, lie, steal, or do anything that is prohibited in the bible. THat would leave your churches completely empty, but you choose to focus on the "gay" issues as if all the other rules and laws don't apply to you.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
    • YeahRight

      But you cannot believe in the bible and this filth."

      The experts disagree with you and have proven it's not filth, only a prejudice bigot would say something like that. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Counseling Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American School Counselor Association, the National Association of School Psychologists, and the National Association of SocialWorkers, together representing more than 480,000 mental health professionals, have all taken the position that homosexuality is not a mental disorder and thus is not something that needs to or can be “cured."

      May 14, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
    • concernedpe3

      Amen! There are even some churches now that are allowing gays. They act as if they can ignore the word of God. They are not true Christians.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
  3. codnmeduchess

    The religious right loves to talk about freedom but they have no idea what that means because they spend their entire lives living like slaves.

    May 14, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
    • concernedpe3

      You must come from the idea; "If it feels good, do it"! Look back at all the great countries. They all fell apart when the more liberal way of thinking was introduced. People start doing whatever they want and then society falls apart. Thank God only a few countries allow this idea of Gays "marrying".

      May 14, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
  4. Vader

    The Reverend Smith has got it right. Agree or disagree with the President on this "non-issue/issue", there are MUCH bigger fish to fry where the alternative being offered is unacceptable.

    May 14, 2012 at 12:52 pm |
    • Lynda Jones-Owings

      I agree with you, we have much greater concerns; like stopping the murder's of our children, equal rights to our black men. We have a lot more to do than to waste time with an issue that has been around forever and a day.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:03 pm |
  5. Hypocrisy Hunter

    It's amazing how people can be for civil rights when it comes to themselves and against civil rights when it comes to others, and use the bible as justification. The same bible that some white supremists use to justisfy their own denial of others civil rights. I'm also amazed at how many Obama positions that some people candisagree with (marriage equality, school vouchers) and still go out of their way to support a man whose positions they disagree with. If that's not racism, what is?

    May 14, 2012 at 12:51 pm |
    • Ben

      Apparently you have not read the BOM. It does not mention half the stuff you criticize it for

      May 14, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
  6. Big Bushy Mustache

    I'm an out and proud gay man. Why are my equal rights under the law even being discussed or used in anyone's political agenda? I support the POTUS. I"m pleased he has stated his position clearly. You hate mangers and GOP Zelots and wingnuts need to stick your bible where the sun don't shine. I demand my right to marry whom ever I choose and I won't rest till I get them. Yes I will continue to kiss my boyfriend openly in public right infront of you. You better get used to it.

    May 14, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
    • yeahalright

      But oh dear, what will I tell my children! <-– my favorite line, like seeing such a thing is going to "turn them gay."

      Too conservatives scared of the gay boogeyman. I suggest "well those are two people who love each other," and go on about your day. Your kids aren't obsessing about gays like you are. It takes years of hate and bigotry and judgment to filter through and become internalized for them. Or tell them whatever bigoted hate you want, they're your kids. But that doesn't give you the right to deny anyone else theirs.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:05 pm |
    • concernedpe3

      We will continue to pray for you. Maybe someday you will see the grace of God and repent. True Christians do not hate, we love. We hope you find salvation. God Bless.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:31 pm |
  7. W.G.

    Ron Jeffress the Pastor at 1st.Baptist church in Dallas said in Oct. that romney was a mormon and not a Christian .
    Now he says that he´ll support Romney a Mormon who Christians consider a " Practicing Heretic " in stead of
    Obama because Mr. Obama doesn´t hold some biblical truths . Has Robert Jeffress ever read the book of Mormon ?
    Or read how they changed the Holy Bible and how the Mormons say that Jesus and lucifer were brothers and
    how when they were fighting for control of te earth that the angels that remained nuetral were turned into Black
    people and when they die Black people go to heaven but remain servants to serve white people . Did Robert
    Jeffress the Pastor of 1st. Baptist church in Dallas just endorse a "Practicing Heretic " ? In revelations
    itsays the evil one will fool even the Elect .

    May 14, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
    • momoya

      Christians care about their political agenda much more than they care about having a fellow brother christian in the Lord in the White House.. Kind of like all the christians who keep posting that Obama should have lied about his views of gay marriage in order to gain political advantage.. They'd rather Obama lie than be honest.. Christian morals is an oxymoron.

      May 14, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
    • PrimeNumber

      @momoya "Christians care about their political agenda much more than they care about having a fellow brother christian in the Lord in the White House." According to many atheists, no " fellow brother christian in the Lord" is desirable in the Whitehouse. If that happens what is left but political agendas?

      May 14, 2012 at 12:53 pm |
    • momoya

      @Prime

      This isn't about atheists since there's no atheists running for the presidency.. It's about christians who refuse to vote for the christian in favor of voting for a cult member who they don't think will be with them and their god in heaven.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
  8. nbadad

    This is my view on gay marriage – put two dudes on a deserted island and no matter what, no new life will be created. Put a guy and a girl on a deserted island and eventually new life starts to pop up all over the place. God doesn't have an opinion about gay marriage – gay marriage is a man-made idea. God's view on marriage is that we reflect the image of the Creator – by creating new life.

    I love how CNN tries to spin it so a call for churches to pray for Obama, a prayer for the lost, as a prayer instead for his success. Very carefully worded to keep any negativity away from the chosen one. Nice try, but no.

    May 14, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
    • momoya

      Why should people who get to marry who they want to be able to tell other people that they can't marry who they want to?

      May 14, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
    • Talmonis

      The Christian god is a man-made idea. You have no right to deny equal protection to groups you don't like.

      May 14, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
    • Fuyuko

      So you are opposed to old people and infertile people from getting married? The purpose of marriage isn't always about procreating.

      May 14, 2012 at 12:48 pm |
    • jim

      " Put a guy and a girl on a deserted island and eventually new life starts to pop up all over the place." LOL ok is that how it works now?
      The church didn't event marriage it took it over in some cultures around 150 AD or so. Prior to that marriage was a civil mater.

      May 14, 2012 at 12:52 pm |
    • sam stone

      first of all, it is about equal protection under the law

      secondly, all marriage is man made

      May 14, 2012 at 12:56 pm |
    • Vader

      "Put a guy and a girl on a deserted island and eventually new life starts to pop up all over the place."

      And marriage is needed for that to happen.... how? That's just biology.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
    • yeahalright

      Why do you assume the man and woman would procreate? What if they weren't attracted to each other? What if your oh-so-loving god made one or both infertile? Or gave one ovarian/test. cancer?

      May 14, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • mike proctor

      Question??? God made man(Adam) and than (Eve) from Adam rib and all the animals etc,etc how come there are gay animals and also abortions in the animal kingdom?????? You think maybe man have no idea whats right or wrong in the old man view of what he wanted IN HIS WORLD. Anyone can answer my question with an intelligent respond.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
    • nagrom

      Have you actually read the BIBLE? Sarah having 5 husbands? and how many princes and kings had multiple wives and children from all of them? Is this really what God intended? People mistake marriage for a religious enjoining. Marriage is a union of two people who love each other. Oh and by the way if you put a 60 year old girl on an island with a 60+ year old man I am sure there will not be children popping up all over the place. So don't make marriage the part where it is only used for pro-creation. MORON

      May 14, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
  9. JustMe

    I just find it rather ironic that the Ancestors of today's African Americans fought so hard against slavery and today they are arguing against gay marriage when both are issues of civil rights. It is ironic because they are using the same argument today against gay marriage that those for slavery used 150+ years ago. I've said it several times and I'll say it again here. Regardless of whether you are gay or straight, male or female and regardless of your color and/or ethnicity all adults should have the same rights as everyone else.

    May 14, 2012 at 12:43 pm |
    • 2tor

      It has nothing to do with civil rights, and everything to do with legitimizing perversion. The vast majority are for civil unions. why do the shallow have to feel the use of a word "marriage", gives them legitimacy?

      May 14, 2012 at 12:54 pm |
    • sam stone

      the vast majority cannot vote on other's civil rights. "separate but equal" ring a bell?

      May 14, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
    • sam stone

      "why do the shallow have to feel the use of a word "marriage", gives them legitimacy?"

      that is exactly what the opponents of marriage equalty want. to be able to define marriage for themselves

      May 14, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
    • Talmonis

      2tor, nobody cares about your puritannical morality ("Perversion") structure. Europe threw your kind out for a reason. You're no fun, and only wish to take the fun from the lives of others.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:00 pm |
    • concernedpe3

      These are entirely two different topics. Gays getting "married" is not the same as civil rights. Get a clue! Gays getting "married" is just another step in the liberal way of thinking. Next, they will want all drugs to be legal and people can marry TWO people, a MAN and a WOMAN. There has to be a line drawn somewhere, and that line has been drawn for thousands of years. A man and a woman marry, not anyone else.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:12 pm |
    • yeahalright

      2tor, you go ahead and define your marriage any way you want in your house and church. This is about what the state should recognize as marriage. It's between the two people wanting to get married and the state. Why do you care? Why are you involved? But.t out. Oh wait that's probably too loaded for you. Mind your own business.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:12 pm |
    • kaz76

      concernedpe3: you're an idiot. The line has to be drawn somewhere? The definition of marriage is not one that's gone unchanged since its inception. It's evolved many times throughout history. It began as a business practice and has included the allowance of multiple wives (still in practice in many countries today). Do a little research please before you start spouting off what you hear on Fox (entertainment) news.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:30 pm |
  10. n8263

    It is immoral to impose your religious superstition on others.

    You do not believe in religion because you honestly think it is true, you believe in it because you fear mortality or are seeking meaning in your life. It does not take a genius to figure out all religion is man made, so for humanity's sake, please stop lying to yourself.

    Deluding yourself in religion does not change reality. Lying to yourself is probably the worst possible way to try to find meaning.

    May 14, 2012 at 12:43 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      That people of Faith do not fear death or mortality while at the same time those not of Faith can have that pesky Pascal screaming in their ears. It is the ability to enjoy life that we have.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
    • momoya

      Pascal's Wager doesn't affect atheists any more than it affects god believers when they are supposed to use it to rationalize a different god than the one they already worship.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
    • n8263

      Pascal's Wager is not rational.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:37 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Not too rational saying that folks who are instructed that Death is nothing to be feared are in fear. 🙂

      May 14, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
    • fred

      momoya
      Just one God and to suggest atheists do a better job at rationalizing is nonsense. Atheists come up with different results as to God because they are godless whereas those with faith not only exhibit a similar ability to rationalize but also can include an entire world view atheists cannot comprehend. This broader perspective would appear to be an evolutionary advantage given that 90+ % of humans exhibit the ability to worship

      May 14, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
  11. chirac

    is no hate against gay . it look like gay forcing me to soddom & gomora am not going sorry .one men & one women.the Jew return to there land.the gay can do the same go to soddom gomora pure simple no hate no animosity to gay .am just scare of punishments of soddom& gomora.

    May 14, 2012 at 12:43 pm |
    • YeahRight

      "it look like gay forcing me to soddom & gomora am not going sorry .one men & one women.the Jew return to there land.the gay can do the same go to soddom gomora pure simple no hate no animosity to gay .am just scare of punishments of soddom& gomora."

      Duh it might help if you read Ezekiel, the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah wasn't about gays. DUH!

      May 14, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
    • Talmonis

      Ladies and gentlemen, the average conservative voter.

      May 14, 2012 at 12:48 pm |
    • Fuyuko

      You do realize that the sin of Sodom was a hospitality issue?

      May 14, 2012 at 12:50 pm |
    • Church of Suicidal

      I think you're being a bit optimistic about Chirac's literacy. Have you read his(?) posts?

      May 14, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
  12. THE truth

    sin is sin no matter what anyone says next after me. period!!!!!!

    May 14, 2012 at 12:42 pm |
    • momoya

      Kind of like "stupid is stupid," or "brainwashed is brainwashed" or "myth is myth."

      May 14, 2012 at 12:43 pm |
    • Sterling

      Doesn't the Bible say something about 'he that is without sin cast the first stone"? This makes me thionk about all the preachers, both black and white, and priest, that have been exposed in all sorts of decadent beviour over the past years. To feel so pious that they can use their pulpit to jude others and then go about their sorid lives.

      It's absolutely amazing that some black preachers say they'll stay home rather than vote for Obama over this. That means, they would facilitate the elction of someone who's party would rollback civil rights 30 years. I think that would be the ultimate "cutting off your nose to spite your face" move.

      May 14, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
    • Fuyuko

      It used to be sinful to show your ankle in public. Times are a 'changing. Jesus said nothign about gays.

      May 14, 2012 at 12:51 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      >>>"It's absolutely amazing that some black preachers say they'll stay home rather than vote for Obama over this. "

      Well, ... no fault here with that view. Some of us Black Republicans choose to stay home for the last elections and caught snot from both Republicans who faulted us for not voting for McCain and from those in the African American community for not voting for the first Black President.

      Some times staying at home is the best option.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
  13. JimHungSF

    Martin Luther King stated “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” African Americans who have no qualms about discriminating against LGBT people have seriously lost their way. If you're not willing to embrace universal equality, you don't have a right to demand it for yourself.

    May 14, 2012 at 12:40 pm |
    • JustMe

      If you're not willing to embrace universal equality, you don't have a right to demand it for yourself.

      Bingo! Exactly!

      May 14, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
    • C. Margerie

      I agree with you! What these same preachers are NOT aware of is that the MAJORITY of people who voted for President Obama were young-college students! So, whether they agree or not, that will NOT deter many from voting again for him. What they also need to report is how many members have left these so called self-righteous churches because of their discriminating tongues. Also, I wonder if they are against all the extra martial affairs going on in the churches today – One that I know most certainly is going on in a church where the preacher preaches against gay marriage yet he is sleeping with a church staff member right inside of the church!!! Bunch of hypocrites is what they are!

      May 14, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
    • concernedpe3

      Well in that case, I have a friend who wants to marry a MAN and a WOMAN. Where is his equal rights?

      May 14, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
  14. kev

    notarichboy like you are

    May 14, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
  15. THE truth

    God loves all people thats why he is giving time to repent and turn from sin. If you want to know how He feels about sin: Sodom and Gomorah.

    May 14, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Well Truth, was Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed because they were Gay or because they tried to ra'pe the angels that were hiding in the house?

      May 14, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
    • Talmonis

      It's intensely amusing to me, that according to your own holy text, YOU will be the one who burns for purporting that you know "what god thinks". Silly false prophets.

      May 14, 2012 at 12:54 pm |
  16. nolimits3333

    Gays can die in combat.....but they aren't allowed to marry.

    Doesn't seem right, does it?

    May 14, 2012 at 12:33 pm |
    • Notarichboy

      Kind of like a 18 year old can die in combat but not legally drink alcohol. We have some of the dumbest laws!

      May 14, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
    • THE truth

      Anyone can die in combat!! whats your point????? Just because they can die in combat does't give them a liscense to act against nature and call it marriage!! Gays in the military??? Is like hello kitty among gorillas!!

      May 14, 2012 at 12:41 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Woah Truth, ..ok that was a bit harsh.

      May 14, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
    • Talmonis

      You Christians have no authority to speak on behalf of "Nature", as you silly nuts don't believe in it's processes. The earth is more than 6,000 years old and evolutionary theory is sound. So cease trying to force your silly views onto the rest of the country, or people will come for your churches.

      May 14, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
    • concernedpe3

      These people who think they are GAY can fight for the country because we do not discrinimate. Not changing the definition of a word to appease these people is not discrimination.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:19 pm |
  17. momoya

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw

    May 14, 2012 at 12:33 pm |
  18. SHAUNA

    ummm what does the black have to do with anything *facepalm* wow cnn way to throw things out there that have NOTHING to do with anything! why not just say pastors! why do they have to be black pastors?

    May 14, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Because Liberals get upset when African Americans do not follow the complete Liberal agenda. We are not allowed to have any view that are conservative.

      Shame on C.Powell, C.Thomas, C.Rice...and all of us Black Republicans.

      May 14, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
    • JustMe

      Mark, the thing is that african americans are contradicting themselves and their ancestors by saying they are against gay marriage, because the argument they use for being against it is the same argument those for slavery used 150+ years ago.

      May 14, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      JustMe. The only problem with your statement is that in the history of most if not all people in society, some part has been oppressed. This same argument could be used against the Irish, The Catholic, even the Mormons, but what throws up flags with many African Americans is that pro-gay marriage people seem to target specifically target the African American community that we should understand and show solidarity with any group that Liberals want to throw in front of us and they get notably upset when we do not fully get on board.

      The Irish suffered in early America, the Asians suffered in early America, and we do not even want to touch on Native American suffering in Early American history... but the Liberals do not want to target those groups to pressure them into supporting such causes..why? What makes the suffering of the ancestors of the African American community different to those of the ancestors of those groups?

      Maybe, because African Americans are more apt to vote as a block and that voting block is so coveted by the Liberals. So when we do not vote as a block for all Liberal causes, it is like bad children and they will continue to target us to get us in line.

      May 14, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
  19. scieng1

    Jesus taught us to respect and love each other, but not those actions He condemned. There is a major difference between accepting a person, and accepting their actions. The pastors who oppose Obama's opinion are simply promoting Christian love and following what they have a right to believe in. If Obama said he liked drug lords, the result would be no different.

    May 14, 2012 at 12:31 pm |
    • big brother

      Emmett Burns, a politically well-connected black minister who said he supported Obama in 2008, is a proven bigot and liar.

      May 14, 2012 at 12:43 pm |
    • QS

      Just as zero tolerance policies leave only zero tolerance for common sense, this convenient excuse that religion offers people of "hate the sin, love the sinner" effectively precludes rational thinking as well.

      The proof, is that based on "sin", a religious person can somehow make a correlation between a gay person and a drug lord being equally "wrong" in their eyes.

      Like I said, no commone sense needed with such a religious zero tolerance policy.

      May 14, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
    • concernedpe3

      Good point! Like I always say, "Love thy neighbor". Just like I love my family members who are alcholics, liars, etc.; I also love my friends who think they are gay. I don't wish "ill will" on them, I pray for them to find the grace of the Lord.

      May 14, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
  20. Notarichboy

    Wonder if Al Sharpton would support a gay white man marrying a gay black man or would that confuse him as to whom to support!

    May 14, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
    • momoya

      I don't think he'd be any more confused as any other christian who thinks we should follow some commandments but not others..

      May 14, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
    • nagrom

      Right on momoya. Love thy neighbor as thyself. Do not covet thy neighbors wife. Do not covet thy neighbors goods. Thou shalt not kill. Though shalt not commit adultery. Though shalt not steal. Hmmmmm Let's see that should cover about 99% of the conservative repuke nut cakes shouldn't it?

      May 14, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
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