May 14th, 2012
03:09 PM ET
Evangelical leader Tony Perkins knocks Rand Paul's 'gay' remark
By Becky Perlow, CNN
Washington (CNN) - You may disagree with it, but you shouldn’t make fun of it.
That’s what conservative Family Research Council president Tony Perkins told CBS’s "Face the Nation" on Sunday about U.S. Sen. Rand Paul’s arguably derogatory use of the term “gay.”
“The president, you know, recently weighed in on marriage,” Paul, a Kentucky Republican, remarked to the Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition, a conservative group, on Friday. “And, you know, he said that his views were evolving on marriage. And call me cynical, but I wasn’t sure that his views on marriage could get any gayer.”
The audience burst into a laughter that echoed all the way to the Sunday talk show tables, where opposing sides weighed in, from gay rights activist and singer Clay Aiken to Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus.
But Perkins’criticism of Paul’s comments was noteworthy because Perkins is one of the nation’s best-known opponents of same-sex marriage and of gay rights more broadly.
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Condemning Paul’s remarks on Sunday, Perkins said the debate over homosexuality and same-sex marriage is not “a laughing matter.”
“I don’t think this is something we should joke about,” Perkins said on "Face the Nation." “We are talking about individuals who feel very strongly one way or the other, and I think we should be civil, respectful, allowing all sides to have the debate.”
While Perkins’ comments caught many by surprise, Aaron McQuade, director of news and field media for the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, said he doesn’t believe Perkins was defending the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community.
“I think he was saying that he takes this issue so seriously that it’s not okay to make light of it, even if you also oppose it the way he does,” McQuade said in a phone interview.
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“This is not a man who represents the 40-whatever percent of the country that does not support marriage equality,” McQuade said. “This is a man who represents a tiny, tiny, fraction of Americans who believes, as he does, that gay people have an emptiness within them. That they are abnormal.”
The Family Research Council did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Monday.
McQuade also said it was hard to tell what Paul meant by using the word “gayer.” “If that same comment was made by someone with a more pro-LGBT history, it likely would not be taken negatively,” he said.
On CNN’s "State of the Union" on Sunday, Perkins told chief political correspondent Candy Crowley that opposition to same-sex marriage shouldn’t be the “central point” of presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney’s campaign. But Perkins also admitted frustration with Capitol Hill Republicans who are portraying the issue as a political distraction.
“Defending the family, the cornerstone of civilization, is not a distraction,” he said, while stressing that the economy and jobs are also key issues in this election. “It should be a priority, and it should be a part of what Mitt Romney talks about.”
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I just want to pull my hair out! This guy looks like he's the leader of the Mickey Mouse Club!
Out from the woodwork do the vipers scurry and with much flurry do they lay down their tracks! Proof positive that they are all creatures of debauchery and filthy in their mouths diapered suckling wombs!
one of the loonies climbed over the wall at the asylum again.
Hibbity jibbitty dip dip scibblity boop! Blah blah blah...the Jesus...zip zap zippity bop...the God.
Good one bootyfunk
Lol, I hope you are having fun.
Keep up the good fight God's Oldest Dreamer, I would recognise your poetic words anywhere!
Oh they want recogised poopy/licky s-e-x! whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! its not fair whAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
On a sunny day the cracks in this god theory that's used to condone hatred fear and prejudice is blinding
Not God. Gods plural the God most people speak of is the head of the council of higher beings that made us
the first thing god gave us is free will, the first thing conservatives want to take away is just that
Wrong sparky, they can do whatever anyone else can do, except change the definition of marriage.
Feeling of disgust toward gays is normal, natural, innate, and instinctive. It's a normal evolutionary reaction. That's why it's the same regardless of nation, religion, athiesm, race, culture or location. It's a universal human feeling, and it won't change.
feelings of disgust for you is normal.
I couldn't agree more, you and your beliefs are disgusting.
"Feeling of disgust toward gays is normal, natural, innate, and instinctive."
That is a complete lie only a prejudice bigot makes up this type of ridiculous excuse for their own poor mind set. There are hundreds of thousands of experts that have proven that being gay isn't a choice, it's not a mental illness and it can't be voluntarily change. Which is why now so many are fighting for this groups civil rights. Now continuing to choose to spread and fuel the hatred towards this minority group is a choice and a bigoted one at that.
It's normal for all straight people, that's my point.
Cannot ignore evolution and instincts.
Nope, sorry, not all of us feel as you do Beep. I'm not disgusted by it in the least, nor are any of my friends-including the Atheists and Christians. It's just your bigotry that makes you see it that way.
Actually, it's a learned reaction. Any children growing up in a society where it is treated as completely normal will have no problems with it.
TruthPrevails? Not so much in this case?
Which society? Please tell me. Only where people are forced to believe some nonsense under punishment.
Feeling of disgust for Christians towards Jews and Jews towards Christians has gone on for thousands of years. Aproprietyly their disgust has dissipated a bit since the birth of our nation. However they still believe it's normal to be disgusted with something/anything. ... more "America" work on them to be done.
"It's normal for all straight people, that's my point."
I am not gay and I don't have those types of feelings because I am not a prejudice bigot like you. You feel those things because you were too lazy to do your homework to understand this minority group. There are many white people that could say they feel those things towards African Americans but doesn't mean it's healthy or normal. Duh!
Didn't our country have that same "feeling" towards blacks?
It's not normal for people for people with extremely low libido, that's true.
Besides, it comes from observation of how things truely are. If this is not so, why does it span all cultures etc.?
If a man screwing another man is not disgusting to you then you are sick
Beep said -Besides, it comes from observation of how things truely are. If this is not so, why does it span all cultures etc.?
Many cultures believed the world was flat...
If a man screwing another man is not disgusting to you then you are sick
But girl on girl is pretty hot huh
Your dipped stickler words carry little to hardly any weightiness when in the eyes of right-minded sensualists who keep their bedroom antics private and out of the public's limelights! Why spread one's filthiness upon all the lands' people? Stand up and be a righteous sensualist and portray yourself as being a kinder and more gentler aversarial agent for sodomy and adultery which by the way are both abominations in the eyes of many folks! 🙂
"Stand up and be a righteous sensualist and portray yourself as being a kinder and more gentler aversarial agent for sodomy and adultery which by the way are both abominations in the eyes of many folks! :-)"
Yeah and the hypocrites don't get is that adulterers still have their civil rights and gays don't. DUH!
@Beep Beep: You have no clue as to what you are speaking of. Hom.o.se.xuality has been observed in approximately 1500 species and as I said, not all of us share your feelings.
You really don't have anything to say, do you. Nothing whatsoever.
Dick Cheney has a daughter who is gay.
yep, that's why he never said much about g.a.y issues. but he still showed complete intolerance for any issue he was not personally affected by. funny how republican/conservatives understand something when it touches their lives.
"where does it say that in the bible?"
Frank Tillery wrote
"Question is: Where did you learn that phrase? I have never heard that phrase before. Besides, your argument makes no sense. Where in the Bible have you read the words cynical, asinine or just plain imbecelic?"
to both of you:
what post are you referring to? i've posted a lot today. you didn't include the post, so i have no idea what you're asking about. copy + paste my post and i'll be glad to answer you.
I responded on the original comment.
weird. didn't see it on my screen. if you would like an answer, grab the post and repost it here.
bootyfunk.....where in the bible does it say that?
Bootyfunk (that felt wierd): Please forgive me. I inadvertently responded to TXnative's comment. When I saw, what I now know is your screename, I thought he was asking someone a question about it. Sorry, my friend. If I may, however, could you consider another less icky screename?
"less icky screename"
That sound so little girl like. BootyFunk stay true to yourself regardless of making someone feel 'icky' over a simple screen name.
where the bible is flat....
sorry......eating. you said the bible states that the earth is flat, I never read that passage, I was wondering where it was
God't greatest gift to humanity is the ability to choose.
When it comes how to live, and what you like, everything is a choice.
Some choices are right and some are wrong.
I have chosen that my rule book on what is right and what is wrong is the New Testament.
The reason for my choice is a guy named Jesus. I want to emulate Jesus and I want to follow His teachings.
1. there is no god. you stopped believing in santa claus, now stop believing in a god that doesn't exist.
2. everything you do is a choice. who you're attracted to is not.
3. yes, some choices are right and some wrong. hating people because a 2000 year old book tells you to is wrong.
"The religious persecution of the ages has been done under what was claimed to be the command of God. I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do to their fellows, because it always coincides with their own desires." – Susan B. Anthony
And right there is where we go wrong as a society, believing in a mythical sky man who will punish us all for the wrong decision. Use your brain.
Bible doesn't say hate them it says men and women procreate.
you're right. the bible doesn't exactly say to hate g.a.y.s.
it says they are an abomination and to kill them.
"I have chosen that my rule book on what is right and what is wrong is the New Testament."
That fine, just don't force your choice on anyone else. Thanks.
God didn't create gay people? Of course he did if you believe God created the universe and created mankind! And God doesn't make mistakes, now does he (or she)?
The fallen has the power to create and they created many.abominations
Yes he does and our creation he regretted
someone who doesn't exist can't create anything.
“Defending the family, the cornerstone of civilization, is not a distraction,”
Gay people will continue to be gay regardless of marriage laws, so preventing them from marrying is only defending the family and preventing the fall of civilization to someone with a bigoted agenda.
like yours? (bigoted agenda?)
GJGVT, I'm sure you felt like you had a point, but you were wrong. My agenda isn't based on prejudice, it's based on tolerance, much like that of Jesus Christ. You can be Christian and some other guy can be gay. I'm good with either or both. Regardless, my point still stands, as proven by your complete inability to refute it.
Rand Paul isn't an idiot he's a bigot and there's a lot a difference between the two.
Has the Republican Party of Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Ike become the magnet for PEWBs?
Poorly Educated White Bigots.
Perkins lies through his teeth when he says that he wants to "defend the family." His organization's very purpose for existence is not to defend families, but to attack those families that don't meet their criteria of what a family should be. If you have a gay son or daughter, they want you to either disown them or send them off to be brainwashed (usually against their will) at one of their aversion therapy (read: psychological torture) centers.
Marriage is not a religiou right, it is a civil right. It is only recognized based on a legal agreement, not based on a religious ceremony. Therefore, every citizen should have the right to marry another consenting citizen, irrespective of what one religion has to say on the matter. This is a matter of State, not of Church.
I don't want to start an argument with you but, you are wrong – marriage was originally a contract between two families and had nothing to do with either religion OR state. Religions and governments took control over it for obvious reasons – control and money.
UtahProf, a religious ceremony does not a legal marriage make, no matter the history of marriage. It's a civil issue. The religious crap is only icing on the cake for people who still ignorantly cling to myths.
"marriage was originally a contract between two families and had nothing to do with either religion OR state"
Uh, 'contract' inherently involves state. Whom do you think enforces contracts?
It's the season for reason! If you are ugly or have ugly habits, you invite rejection. That's just the way it works in nature – it's called selection of the fittest, and if you mess with that, you will have serious, negative consequences. It doesn't take religion to figure that out!
Nature didn't select gays they don't reproduce enough
That's just a not so clever way of saying that if someone doesn't conform to your way of thinking that you will treat them with prejudice. And that you're extremely shallow.
James, that's a true observation – you cannot deny it!
Are any gays religious?
Are any walruses gay
To me, it would be like the Jews joining the Gestapo.
That's why Catholic priests are a joke no real man would ever vow not to be with a woman
Beep beep, bamadaniel,
You two have to bee the stupidest people to post thus far. You bigoted logic is so backwards that is beyond laughable. Your anti g ay, but most likely would fvck your cousin the fist chance you got.
"To me, it would be like the Jews joining the Gestapo."
Ah, so clearly you have much to learn. Just because *you* can conjure up an interpretation of scriptures which involves contradictions being being gay and a life of faith doesn't mean that is the only interpretation.
There have been many, many gay people who have made positive contributions to all areas of society over past millenia – including the church.
Of course, the most amusing thing to consider about your post is that if anyone else dared to make such a statement you would have gone off the deep end screaming about how dare anyone compare the church and the Gestapo/Nazis...
"Vice is a monster of so frightful mein as to be hated needs but to be seen; Yet seen too oft, familiar with her face, We first endure, then pity, then embrace." Alexander Pope
Speak American our education system lacking
For an idiots without brain, like Paul, there is no such thing as respecting others .. only those who kiss your behind et such thing as respect. He finds many who are so stupid to do so ...
Derogatory remarks against what one does not understand is what idiots do .. and that's the mantra of the GOP. Perkins is just being a decent person .. which is what Jesus taught is followers to do (those without sin shall be the first to throw the stones) and that surprised conservatives who call themselves Christians but behave like chimps.
Excuse me, but do not disparage Chimps.
"Derogatory remarks against what one does not understand is what idiots do"
Does this include derogatory remarks about Paul...?
Our country is falling on its face. We are not the leader of the free world any longer. The rest of the world is watching while a group of idiots in the House caused us to lose our credit rating score so they could make a point on a stupid budget. Now we are trying to deny fellow citizens the right to marry whomever they please. Benjamin Franklin said something like: "we've given you a republic, if you can keep it." I guess we can't. Our best moment, WWII is far behind us. I am fearful of what is ahead of us.
With such a vast number of bigots and people trying to shove their beliefs down the throats of everyone else, you should be afraid for your country. And you're right, we do laugh at the vast majority of you but not all...just the ones who try to oppress the basic rights of others via their absurd belief in the buybull.
Smells so good! Coprophilia (from Greek ??p???, kópros—ex rement and f???a, filía—liking, fondness), also called scatophilia or scat (Greek: s?at?, skatá-s hi t), is the paraphilia involving exual pleasure from fe ces. In the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association (DSM-IV-TR), it is classified under 302.9 Paraphilia Not Otherwise Specified and has no diagnostic criteria other than a general statement about paraphilias that says "the diagnosis is made if the behavior, exual urges, or fantasies cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning". Furthermore, the DSM-IV-TR notes, "Fantasies, behaviors, or objects are paraphilic only when they lead to clinically significant distress or impairment (e.g. are obligatory, result in exual dysfunction, require participation of nonconsenting individuals, lead to legal complications, interfere with social relationships)".
That's APA for you. Not so credible after all?
How many more gay people does God have to create before closed-minded so-called 'religious' bigots will accept them? I'm not for 'forcing' any particular religion to accept gay marriage, but in a country where life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are considered inalienable rights, the 'state' should not be discriminatory.
God didn't create them the fallen brought that abomination to mankind .it is against nature
Everybody chooses how they live and what they like.
As far as I'm concerned, Alabama is an abomination to mankind.
It's not how many more gays does God have to create. It's how many more gays do evangelical Christians have to create before it sinks in and moves their god to a non issue?
God didn't create them the fallen brought that abomination to mankind .it is against nature
Bama, flying, plastic surgery, and styrofoam are also against nature. What's your point? So are clothes.
"Bama, flying, plastic surgery, and styrofoam are also against nature. What's your point? So are clothes."
Please, please, I beg you – do not convince him to give up clothes!