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My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality
The author writes that it's fine for Christians to take certain biblical condemnations seriously while ignoring others.
May 21st, 2012
10:00 AM ET

My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality

Editor's Note: R. Albert Mohler Jr. is president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, the flagship school of the Southern Baptist Convention and one of the largest seminaries in the world.

By R. Albert Mohler Jr., Special to CNN

Are conservative Christians hypocritical and selective when it comes to the Bible’s condemnation of homosexuality? With all that the Bible condemns, why the focus on gay sex and same-sex marriage?

Given the heated nature of our current debates, it’s a question conservative Christians have learned to expect. “Look,” we are told, “the Bible condemns eating shellfish, wearing mixed fabrics and any number of other things. Why do you ignore those things and insist that the Bible must be obeyed when it comes to sex?”

On its face, it’s a fair question. But it can be posed in two very different ways.

First, the question can be asked to suggest that the Bible’s clear condemnation of sexual sins can simply be set aside. The other way of posing the question represents a genuine attempt to understand how the Bible is to be rightly applied to life today.

In truth, those asking the question the first way really don’t want an answer.

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An honest consideration of the Bible reveals that most of the biblical laws people point to in asking this question, such as laws against eating shellfish or wearing mixed fabrics, are part of the holiness code assigned to Israel in the Old Testament. That code was to set Israel, God’s covenant people, apart from all other nations on everything from morality to diet.

As the Book of Acts makes clear, Christians are not obligated to follow this holiness code. This is made clear in Peter’s vision in Acts 10:15. Peter is told, “What God has made clean, do not call common.”

In other words, there is no kosher code for Christians. Christians are not concerned with eating kosher foods and avoiding all others. That part of the law is no longer binding, and Christians can enjoy shrimp and pork with no injury to conscience.

The Bible’s commands on sexual behavior, on the other hand, are continued in the New Testament. When it comes to homosexuality, the Bible’s teaching is consistent, pervasive, uniform and set within a larger context of law and Gospel.

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The Old Testament clearly condemns male homosexuality along with adultery, bestiality, incest and any sex outside the covenant of marriage. The New Testament does not lessen this concern but amplifies it.

The New Testament condemns both male and female homosexual behavior. The Apostle Paul, for example, points specifically to homosexuality as evidence of human sinfulness. His point is not merely that homosexuals are sinners but that all humanity has sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

The New Testament condemns a full range of sexual sins, and homosexuality is specified among these sins. In Romans, Paul refers to homosexuality in terms of “dishonorable passions,” “contrary to nature” and “shameless.” As New Testament scholar Robert Gagnon has stated, the Bible’s indictment “encompasses every and any form of homosexual behavior.”

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Some people then ask, “What about slavery and polygamy?” In the first place, the New Testament never commands slavery, and it prizes freedom and human dignity. For this reason, the abolitionist movement was largely led by Christians, armed with Christian conviction.

The Old Testament did allow for polygamy, though it normalizes heterosexual monogamy. In the New Testament, Jesus made clear that marriage was always meant to be one man and one woman.

“Have you not read that He who created them made them male and female?” Jesus asked in Matthew. "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.” For this reason, Christians have opposed polygamy on biblical grounds.

Why are Christians so concerned with homosexuality? In the first place, that question is answered by the simple fact that it is the most pressing moral question of our times. Christians must be concerned about adultery, pornography, injustice, dishonesty and everything the Bible names as sin. But when my phone rings with a call from a reporter these days, the question I am asked is never adultery or pornography. It is about homosexuality.

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Christians who are seriously committed to the authority of the Bible have no choice but to affirm all that the Bible teaches, including its condemnation of homosexuality. At the same time, our confidence is that God condemns those things that will bring his human creatures harm and commands those things that will lead to true human happiness and flourishing.

In other words, we understand that the Bible condemns all forms of sin because our Creator knows what is best for us. The Bible names sins specifically so that each of us will recognize our own sinfulness and look to Christ for salvation and the forgiveness of our sins.

Christian love requires that we believe and teach what the Bible teaches and that we do so with both strong conviction and humble hearts. The Church must repent of our failures in both of these tasks, but we must not be silent where the Bible speaks.

Are Christians hypocrites in insisting that homosexual behavior is sin? We, too, are sinners, and hypocrisy and inconsistency are perpetual dangers.

The church failed miserably in the face of the challenge of divorce. This requires an honest admission and strong corrective.

At the same time, this painful failure must remind us that we must not fail to answer rightly when asked what the Bible teaches about homosexuality. Love requires us to tell the truth.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of R. Albert Mohler Jr.

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Filed under: Bible • Christianity • Gay marriage • Opinion

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  1. GottaBeKiddin

    All you idiots need to get a life. You rail on Christians for their beliefs about gays/lesbians yet you spend all daying doing the same to them.

    June 6, 2012 at 12:04 pm |
  2. justwrong1

    I think the Vatican should not cast stones while they live in the Glass Petophile House, Shame On The Pope & His Nasty Boys!

    June 6, 2012 at 10:12 am |
  3. Steff

    Look – people are born gay. It is natural in nature. That means it is not a sin. That's it.

    P.S. Yes, they ARE born gay.

    June 6, 2012 at 9:19 am |
    • Camel Tow

      Yes, and people are born shi++ing themselves but soon realize its disgusting and change their nasty habits.

      June 6, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
  4. Jon

    “What God has made clean, do not call common.” The verse says not to call the practice common. It doesn't say it's okay. It doesn't say since it isn't common, it doesn't matter.

    Also, why can't you give a single verse from the Bible demonstrating any other point you make? Instead, you resume things in your own words as your own interpretations without a single shred of versed proof to back it up.

    Also, the Bible never defines the word WIFE. Nowhere does it say a wife is a woman. Nor does it say a man is a husband. It says a man shall leave his mother and father to join his wife. Wife is undefined. The man is never called husband. The Bible also considers women as property and without civil rights. This is not the case today.

    As such, Biblical rules CANNOT be applied.

    June 5, 2012 at 10:34 pm |
    • notanymore

      "Also, the Bible never defines the word WIFE. Nowhere does it say a wife is a woman. "

      Well let me define it for you from the Greek since you seem to be having so much trouble with it. How you presume to speak as an authority yet can't even accomplish that which is most elementary I'll never know. The definition as in Matthew 19:5

      – Original: γυνή
      – Transliteration: Gune
      – Phonetic: goo-nay'
      – Definition:
      1. a woman of any age, whether a virgin, or married, or a widow
      2. a wife
      a. of a betrothed woman
      – Origin: probably from the base of G1096
      – TDNT entry: 13:56,1
      – Part(s) of speech: Noun Feminine

      You want me to define husband for you to as God intended?

      June 5, 2012 at 11:14 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Do you really think your bible is relevant?

      If so, then: you're an idiot.

      June 5, 2012 at 11:15 pm |
    • Douglas

      Jesus defines marriage as the union of one man and one woman. A wife is a woman. Abraham's wife, Sarah, had a child in old age. Joseph's wife was Mary. David's wife was Abigail and he fornicated with Bathsheeba, a woman, who aroused him as she took her bath within his view. Lot's wife died because of disobedience during the destruction of the cesspool of filth at Sodom and Gomorrah.
      Let's be honest here. Gay /lesbian relationships do exist and have existed for centuries. What must remembered here is that celibate relationships for GLBTQ folks do not violate Biblical Scriptural guidance. There is no condemnation in gay celibacy.
      Stop insulting women by defining a wife as a man. There is no such thing as a "Man" wife or a woman "husband".
      Best,
      Douglas

      June 6, 2012 at 12:17 am |
    • kalashnikova

      Jesus spoke Aramaic, genius. Not Greek.

      June 6, 2012 at 4:58 am |
    • sam stone

      douglas: be that as it may, the bible does not control in defining secular laws.

      June 6, 2012 at 9:21 am |
    • LabBorn

      @kalashnikova

      If you are going to get that technical Jesus is a latin name so his name was not Jesus either. It would have been Yeshua (or Joshua) unless it was something completly different.

      June 6, 2012 at 9:37 am |
  5. Bobby Dias

    Something was left out- what the normal focus of the churches is the threat started by the gays/lesbians aimed at the churches and the churches' ways of life. If the gays/lesbians did not try to push themselves against the Christains there would be very little talk about gays/lesbians and the churches. If there was very little money offered to gay/lesbian writers to put their article in media, CNN being one, there would be very little trouble in that area. Follow the money to the writers of gay/lesbian subject or any other subject in the media.

    June 5, 2012 at 8:54 pm |
    • sweet

      You are assuming here that every gay/lesbian person is actively fighting against the church. Many people in the LGBT community not only belong to religious communities (not just churches, don't forget not everyone is Christian and the church is not the only religion that necessarily "opposes" gay marriage) but they whole heartedly believe in the same set of values and morals that many of the people commenting on this article believe, as well. However, they also believe that only God can judge them. While I respect that everyone has their own religious beliefs, I just don't think those beliefs belong in our government. I would like to respectfully disagree with you and just say this, if your church wants to deny a gay couple the right to marry, then that is fine, they have every right to do so. But why deny people the right to get LEGALLY married?

      June 6, 2012 at 2:49 am |
  6. Amazing_Grace_how_sweet_the_sound

    GOD loves the sinner, not the sin. We have all sinned and come up short to the Glory of GOD. He has a solution for this dilemma. HE provided a way out. John 3:16 – 31

    You have only one question to answer-

    What will you do with Jesus? Accept or Reject?

    Is that your final answer?

    June 5, 2012 at 4:01 pm |
    • JWT

      I won't do anything with jesus – nothing there to even think about let about do anythigng with.

      June 5, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
    • Bobby Dias

      HE gave YOU a way out-take it, stop giving us that "everybody has sinned" BS. Stick with the subject at hand.

      June 5, 2012 at 8:57 pm |
  7. Dave Harris

    Christians don't hate gays and gay marriage because of some obscure passages in what they imagine to be their holy book. They hate them because they're bigots, and hate anybody who's different. Just like they hate Mexicans, and the French, and scientists, and anybody with an education (to name but a few). This isn't Christianity, it's ignorance. The phony theology just helps them pretend that they're better than somebody, anybody. They aren't.

    June 5, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
    • Choice for everyone

      So then by your own definition that would make you what..... a Christian?

      June 5, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
    • Patty

      Amen! If they're all going to be in heaven, I'm cool with ANY other option. I cannot believe that their savior really wants them to be so plain and simple mean to any other living thing!

      June 5, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • JWT

      Many christians welcome gays and gay marriages. The message here is that not all christians hold the same beliefs – nor should they. It is no more correct to paint all christians with the same brush as it is with the GLBT community.

      As with many groups in this world there are extremists that take their feelings well into hatred and bigotry. The hope we have is to see that there are many valid ways of living in life and that we accept and protect those ways without a need to totally agree with them. Something that some christian (among others) ministries have utterly failed at.

      June 5, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
    • Bobby Dias

      Dave Harris is a bigot- he says he knows what people are. I say Dave Harris is a smart-a** who is the real ignorant idiot.

      June 5, 2012 at 9:00 pm |
    • Cissy

      @ JWT: YES, YES, YES!! I am constantly amazed that the secular world puts us all in the same boat, sharing the same beliefs. I love JESUS CHRIST but at the same time I surely understand that the Bible is a very heavily edited Book written by fallible human beings with hidden agendas. It's an 'outline' of GOD's expectations, NOT a full color portrait at all. I think that GOD expects/hopes that most of us would figure that out and act accordingly. Hardlining haters are just as sad and misguided as the rest of us, they just don't know it.

      June 6, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
  8. Jim Hahn

    Why people insist that we live by an long outdated history book is beyond me. I guess that thinking for yourself is hard and getting something else to do it for you is easy. Never forget that the Bible teaches that slavery is appropriate and that your wife is chattel. You can pick and choose all you like, but living your life according to that book is like cooking with recipes from the 1600s. That doesn't make sense either.

    June 5, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
    • TZ

      You know, Jim, you have a valid point. It doesn't make any sense to use recipes dating from the 17th century does it? Unless...unless those recipes created for you the most amazing meals you could ever have. If that were the case, you wouldn't make anything else...you would continue to use those "outdated" recipes and nothing else. Good point!

      June 6, 2012 at 9:21 pm |
  9. sanjosemike

    Mohler's reasoning falls apart like a cheap suit. The bibles cannot be "picked clean" of some things you believe in, others you don't. Either you believe in the whole thing or the whole thing falls apart.

    There is incredible hatred in both the Old and the New Testament, as well as the condoning of slavery and internecine wars between tribes. These factors are ignored by Mohler.

    Both books are utter nonesense and were written by men who had no inkling of science.

    Mohler's justification(s) are as much nonesense as the books themselves. It's a pity that so many people have died for them.

    sanjosemike

    June 5, 2012 at 10:56 am |
    • purlswine

      It's a book that has completely changed the course of human history. It's had a bigger impact on arts, culture, government, psychology and even science than any other book. You should probably read it before completely dismissing it.

      June 5, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
    • Bet

      @ purls

      Why do you assume that the poster hasn't read the bible?

      June 5, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
  10. Cylon Lover

    I think GALACTICA-CMDR is really a 40+ year old man living in his mother's basement.

    June 5, 2012 at 9:47 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Why? Because he's smarter than you are and you find that threatening?

      June 5, 2012 at 10:24 am |
    • GALACTICA-CMDR. AIR GROUP

      Actually, leasing a house in Mulholland Estates. Paula Abdul used to be my neighbor, but an obsessed fan of hers committed suici.de in front of her house and she freaked and put it up for sale.

      June 5, 2012 at 11:15 am |
    • GALACTICA-CMDR. AIR GROUP

      Oh, and, as for my Mother, she passed of brea.st cancer 3 years ago, brought on by hormone replacement therapy treatments in the 80's. And we argued for nearly 30 years because she felt I should've stayed in Elgin, Illinois and worked in a bank instead of spending 12 years in college and moving to Los Angeles. So I never shed a tear.

      June 5, 2012 at 11:31 am |
  11. WWRRD

    Maybe you should have your member's stop the adultery , and multiple marriages before you go after gays.

    June 5, 2012 at 9:36 am |
    • Waterstar

      Very true, it's already against the bible to divorce, and it's all over the place.

      June 5, 2012 at 10:22 am |
    • Evangelical

      You cannot justify one sin by pointing out another.

      June 6, 2012 at 12:45 am |
  12. Marcus

    My question, like the one this blog attempts to answer, is also one about the philosophy of Christianity. Is there a belief in Christianity that Christians should attempt to apply Biblical code to everyone? That is to say, when you live in a gated community and agree to a rule that your grass will be 2 inches long, you don't go traveling neighborhood to neighborhood trying to get people to cut their grass. Are Christians supposed to spread their Biblical rules by enacting federal amendments that gay people can't get married? I am seriously asking. And also, as someone who is not Christian, i always thought that the goal of evangelism was to get people to accept Jesus as their personal savior, etc., etc. So, if you are able to stop a gay person from marrying someone, have you really spread anything other than misery? I mean, according to your religion, that person is on a journey to Hell already because they haven't accepted your religious views, so why make them suffer under the laws of Christianity without the benefits of it? It's like forcing someone to pay for a ticket to Hawaii and then not letting them fly there. And my second question would be, do Christians honestly think they will spread their religion by enforcing their Biblical rules on people who don't even follow the religion? To continue the analogy, do you think I'll want to move into your neighborhood if you come to my house and tell me I have to cut my grass?

    June 5, 2012 at 1:32 am |
    • JWT

      There are unfortunately many christians that believe they have a duty in life to convert others to their faith. Even worse somne of those do not accept that other people can hold equally valid but different views on religion and faith.

      June 5, 2012 at 8:28 am |
    • sanjosemike

      Marcus, your reasoning is sound. However, you are trying to reason with people who construct their entire lives out of the nonsense they read in their bibles. You might be able to reason with one or two of them, but it's a longshot at best.

      sanjosemike

      June 5, 2012 at 11:00 am |
    • Patty

      Listen to "Twelve Gates to the City" Great song reminding us that there are many paths to enlightenment. Each of us will find our way. God would not give the truth to such a small part of the population and expect them to spread it.......perhaps he has different approaches for different people. Don't you give him (her?) that much credit? Maybe, just maybe there are other ways than the strict translation of THE BOOK. It's a big big wide world out there, try practicing love and acceptance for ALL.

      June 5, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • Patty

      In case there's any doubt.....I with Marcus all the way!

      June 5, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
  13. Bet

    Gee, I got in with a great company in its early days, worked my ass off and retired at least 15 years before most people. Then I got hired by a magazine out of the blue. They pay me to eat in restaurants and write about it. Takes me less than 1/2 day to do what most work a 40+ hour week to do.

    Boo hoo, I'm so sad and bitter. Pour me another glass of Cristal, I just can't bear it!

    June 4, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
    • Bet

      Dang, I didn't mean this to go here. My bad!

      June 4, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
    • GALACTICA-CMDR. AIR GROUP

      I think you meant this for Lord Ramsley, the Duke of No Fun!

      June 4, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
    • GALACTICA-CMDR. AIR GROUP

      Would you like an after-dinner mint? Wafer-thin?

      June 4, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
    • Bet

      Yes, I did and I'd really prefer a cognac.

      June 4, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
    • Lord Ramsley

      Bet everyone can see how bitter the three amiegos are – you, Sam, Tomy boy.....yes you should have that drink. Its been a hard day attacking Christians all day, you certainly have earned it. Not everyone gets to sit in restaurants and play iphone on CNN all day. Life couldn't be better:):):)

      June 5, 2012 at 1:09 am |
    • sam stone

      Lord: I am not attacking Christians. I am attacking bigots who hid behind a bible. Take note of the difference.

      June 6, 2012 at 9:26 am |
    • Bet

      @LR you said, "Not everyone gets to sit in restaurants and play iphone on CNN all day"

      Poor baby, don't you wish that you had a job like mine? Sure you do. Keep on calling me bitter, honey. I'll continue to sit back, eat in restaurants, write magazine articles, and cash my paychecks. Life is great.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:20 am |
  14. GALACTICA-CMDR. AIR GROUP

    This is the sick sh!t Christian Fundies are doing in America. Makes me want to barf on their shoes. Because f*#k Christian Fundies!

    http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2012/06/03/over-100000-public-elementary-school-students-to-get-bible-lessons-on-killing-unbelievers/

    June 4, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • Cielo

      That gets an A++ from me!

      June 4, 2012 at 11:37 pm |
    • Sandman

      Galactical time for meds dude....gotta get some help. You don't make sense to anyone on this wall......and you are foul mouthed – very sad state of affairs dude

      June 5, 2012 at 1:23 am |
    • GALACTICA-CMDR. AIR GROUP

      You say foul-mouthed like it's a bad thing. It's the way I am, dude. Online, and real life. Deal with it.

      June 5, 2012 at 9:08 am |
  15. Alan Anderson

    What drivel

    June 4, 2012 at 1:03 am |
    • Batman

      Sam Stone does try and speak for everyone on this wall !!! you are right!! Sam you do not speak for the gay community or the christians!! You do not know what everyone is thinking!!!! Stop being such a parasite on everyone elses comments and find some of your OWN!!!!! You are one of the meanest people on this wall besides Bet, and Galctackle idiot

      June 5, 2012 at 1:29 am |
  16. pepper

    Thinkin Bet, Sam Stone, Tom Tom, all the same person.....busted!!

    June 4, 2012 at 12:24 am |
    • Peter R

      Been reading and Sam and Bet could be twins, you never know. They both speak for all gays and all christians!!! hahahahahahahahahahah

      June 4, 2012 at 12:26 am |
    • sam stone

      i cannot speak for the others, but I only post under "sam stone", so your bust is invalid.

      June 4, 2012 at 5:15 am |
    • sam stone

      i don't speak for all gays or all christians.

      i am speaking about equal rights under the law.

      inbred mother scratching bigots like evangelical are annoying.

      i speak sincerely. if you don't believe me, you can go f yourself

      June 4, 2012 at 5:17 am |
    • sam stone

      and, i am neither gay nor a christian

      June 4, 2012 at 8:17 am |
    • Bet

      Nice try pepper and James R. You sound a little like twins yourself.

      I've only posted as Bet on any CNN boards. You couldn't have read many of my posts or you'd see that my writing style is very different from any of the other posters you mention. I've never said that I speak for anyone but myself.

      June 4, 2012 at 11:22 am |
    • Peter R

      hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah You guys are hilarious...saving all of your comments for another blog – most excellent – great material!!!! hahahahahahahahahahhahahah

      June 5, 2012 at 1:12 am |
    • Bet

      @ Peter R

      Uncontrolled laughter is a good indication that your meds need to be adjusted.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:21 am |
  17. Paul

    midwest rail: Making your belief system law is tantamount to a theocracy.
    Are you suggesting that mankind has come up with a better government than Theocracy?
    I have not seen one government that has successively rid this earth of the things like pollution, r@pe, murder, homelessness, unhappiness and strife. Rather the earth has become filled with such things due to man-kinds inability to rule successfully.
    God gave us a good start in a paradise; it was us that ruined it without giving God a go. We have proved to be very bad tenants on God’s earth. Don’t be surprised if he evicts us soon. I know I would if it was my earth.

    June 3, 2012 at 10:14 pm |
    • midwest rail

      A theocracy would only be better than what we have now if a real God presided over it rather than fallible men. Combining fallible men with a theocracy is a recipe for disaster. Who decides which religion to use ? Theocracy ? No thanks.

      June 3, 2012 at 10:19 pm |
    • Paul

      Hi midwest rail.
      The word Theocracy answers your question. Theocracy means God by rule. So he would decide which religion. Have you not found a religion that follows his guidelines?

      June 3, 2012 at 10:34 pm |
    • midwest rail

      Good grief, man. Do you really expect that God is going to come down to Earth and rule just one nation in exclusion of all others ? Men certainly have no business being in charge of a theocracy.

      June 3, 2012 at 10:39 pm |
    • Paul

      Who said anything about God coming down and using one nation? True man has no business in being in charge of a theocracy.
      Do you not think the ruler of the Universe has to personally be present to effectively rule? However he did put Adam in the position of being responsible for teaching us. He blew it of course, but that does not mean it cannot work. There are some who do follow God’s will, even though not perfect. They have been willing to try and by and large get it right, even if goes against the main stream views they still stick to what God commanded. The early Christians were a good example of this.

      June 3, 2012 at 10:51 pm |
    • Paul

      When I say early Christians I am talking about the 1st century prior to 100CE. The time of the Apostles.

      June 3, 2012 at 11:01 pm |
    • GALACTICA-CMDR. AIR GROUP

      And, thusly, God commanded that the rule of the Earth shall fall to The Church of Scientology.

      June 3, 2012 at 11:56 pm |
    • Paul

      Do you really think they follow Gods requirements, even at cost to themselves?

      I have yet to see scientologists to disown themselves and engage in the preaching of God's Kingdom earth wide.

      June 4, 2012 at 12:04 am |
    • Paul

      I guarantee you if I had lived in the time of the Apostles I would have had one of them call on my door telling me about Christ and his Kingdom.
      I have not had a scientologist call on my door to do this.

      June 4, 2012 at 12:08 am |
    • GALACTICA-CMDR. AIR GROUP

      Paul: Ever hear of a flip comment? Get a sense of humor, AND a clue!
      That joke would've killed on Facebook!

      June 4, 2012 at 12:57 am |
    • Paul

      If you want to make a joke, at least put LOL next to it. Then at least me and many others will get it. This is a serious subject and if you have the need to joke, just make that obvious please.

      June 5, 2012 at 1:16 am |
    • Sandman

      Paul....there is NO point trying ANY dialogue with GALACTICAL FOOL – he never made it past kindergarden......if his mom found out he was on this blog – she would freak!!! He is only 10 years old. His communication skills make it impossible for him to have any conversation online or otherwise:(

      June 5, 2012 at 1:18 am |
    • GALACTICA-CMDR. AIR GROUP

      First of all, Sandman (or, should I say, sock puppet since you're posting under different names), add 43 years to your age estimate. As for schooling, I have 2 physics degres from MIT and a chemistry degree from Stanford. As for communication, I have two Peabody Awards for excellence in writing for my work on Battlestar Galactica a few years ago sitting on the credenza behind me. And I like to introduce people to them when they walk into my office.
      Booyah!

      June 5, 2012 at 9:25 am |
  18. Paul

    Evangelical:

    What you say is that the Bible does not condone fornication and ho-mos-exuals . That is true according to the Bible. But one must be careful as to being a judge of such matters. The true Christian congregation has been given the right to remove an unrepentant Christian from the congregation. But we have not been given the right to judge those outside the congregation. That is a matter for God and his son Jesus Christ, which they will do in the near future. 1 Cor 5:12,13
    In the meantime we try and help people to come to an accurate knowledge of truth and hopefully with this information they will make the right choice. We are commanded to preach the “goodnews” of God’s Kingdom. Matt 24:14

    June 3, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
    • StrongMeds

      Wow. I thought I'd never hear that point made. Strong medicine.

      June 5, 2012 at 12:17 am |
    • Paul

      Well it's the truth. I only hope many more will listen before it is too late. Even God does not want any to be destroyed, but the end has got to come sometime for the sake of those that want peace.

      The end is close. See if the decription in 2 Tim 3:1-7 does not decribe the days we are living in today.

      June 5, 2012 at 1:11 am |
    • YeahRight

      "In the meantime we try and help people to come to an accurate knowledge of truth and hopefully with this information they will make the right choice."

      I hope you realize that being gay isn't a choice, it's not a mental illness and it can't be voluntarily changed. Gays deserve the same civil rights as straights.

      June 5, 2012 at 10:52 am |
  19. Evangelical

    All s.ex outside of marriage between a man and a woman is evil. The difference with ho-mos-exuals is that we don't see for-ni-cators demanding special rights. I can fire a for-ni-cator, but if the ho-mos-exuals get their way, I won't have the liberty to fire the ho-mos-exual. That is a special right which we must fight against vehemently.

    June 3, 2012 at 4:58 pm |
    • midwest rail

      Delusional nonsense. Making your belief system law is tantamount to a theocracy. No thanks.

      June 3, 2012 at 5:03 pm |
    • Bet

      Evangelical, you are not god's personal assistant and spokesperson.

      June 3, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
    • sam stone

      evangelical: you are a bigot. please, wander in front of a speeding bus

      June 3, 2012 at 5:49 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I doubt this is the real Eva. It's just another troll.

      June 3, 2012 at 5:50 pm |
    • GALACTICA-CMDR. AIR GROUP

      Wether this is the "real" Evangelical or not, if he were my boss and fired me for banging my girlfriend, I'd have Gloria Allred slap him with a wrongful termination lawsuit so fast it'd literally make his head spin!

      June 3, 2012 at 7:00 pm |
    • GALACTICA-CMDR. AIR GROUP

      Cha-CHING!

      June 3, 2012 at 7:06 pm |
    • Oh another one

      So you don't want people even touching their own bodies? I can't fap if you get your way?
      Then let's make sure people like you do NOT get their way! Your prudishness is disgusting and sick and twisted.
      I bet you have some twisted prudish vision of everyone going around in Quaker clothes and never really having s.ex but the children appear as if by magic without anything "dirty" marring your sick, twisted fantasy!

      June 3, 2012 at 10:31 pm |
    • Jeebus

      Evangelical is probably a pedop.hile, nec/roph.iliac, or some other sick, per.ver ted as.sh.ole in private, and a prudish, legalistic, religious faker in public. It has an inordinate obsession with fornic.ation, adul.tery and hom.ose.xuality.

      June 3, 2012 at 11:17 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oh, no doubt Eva is a repressed little girl who can't get to a little o, much less a big one.

      June 3, 2012 at 11:19 pm |
    • GALACTICA-CMDR. AIR GROUP

      Thanks, Tom. There's a disturbing visual I won't get outta my head any time soon. 😛

      June 3, 2012 at 11:50 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      ha, sweet dreams, GAL! 😉

      June 3, 2012 at 11:54 pm |
    • GALACTICA-CMDR. AIR GROUP

      A hot poker in the ear might do the trick. I'll have to flip a coin for which ear...

      June 4, 2012 at 12:03 am |
    • Lord Ramsley

      Sam, Tom Tom, Bet, Galacidiot.......the four foul mouthed gangsters for CNN......one sad, bitter group

      June 4, 2012 at 12:32 am |
    • GALACTICA-CMDR. AIR GROUP

      Ramsley, get a sense of humor. Like you never say or do anything vulgar. You probably don't even have a Facebook page or Twitter account.

      June 4, 2012 at 1:02 am |
    • GALACTICA-CMDR. AIR GROUP

      You that much of a prude you find scatalogical references offensive? Lighten up! Listen to some KISS records fer chrissakes!

      June 4, 2012 at 1:10 am |
    • GALACTICA-CMDR. AIR GROUP

      Lord Ramsley, I'm gonna give you a little snippet of my life. I work at Warner Bros. developing a science fiction series that will never see the light of day. So, I get to come to work 5 days a week collecting a paycheck for doing nothing. I go hang out with the guys who make Two and a Half Men, play Halo, and post on Facebook all day. And I get to bang a cute executive as.sistant. Sad? Nope. Life's a party with an open bar. Drink up!

      June 4, 2012 at 1:37 am |
    • sam stone

      Lord Ramsley: And why do you feel that people should be polite to bigots?

      June 4, 2012 at 5:23 am |
    • sam stone

      lord ramsley: read evangelical's posts and tell me if you don't see bitterness in them.

      June 4, 2012 at 5:26 am |
    • GALACTICA-CMDR. AIR GROUP

      You're wasting your breath, sam. Lord Ramsley is another bigot with no sense of humor, no life, and projecting his own bitterness on us. He needs to have a few drinks, snort a line, put on Slipknot or Kil.lswitch Engage and lighten up.

      June 4, 2012 at 10:32 am |
    • Bet

      Gee, I got in with a great company in its early days, worked my ass off and retired at least 15 years before most people. Then I got hired by a magazine out of the blue. They pay me to eat in restaurants and write about it. Takes me less than 1/2 day to do what most work a 40+ hour week to do.

      Boo hoo, I'm so sad and bitter. Pour me another glass of Cristal, I just can't bear it!

      Sorry for the repost. The original went up top.

      June 4, 2012 at 12:03 pm |
    • GALACTICA-CMDR. AIR GROUP

      Okay, NOW I get it! When Lord Ramsley described me as foul-mouthed, it's because I said "Gloria Allred!" Yeah, I can see how some people bristle at the mere mention of her name.

      June 4, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
    • ib42

      You, evang., are the problem, not the solution.

      June 10, 2012 at 10:46 pm |
  20. Susan W

    These blogs are horrifying on both sides of the fence, shocking and disgusting!! Christians and Gays may not agree in the political arena, but they are neighbors and coworkers, and friends in many places. Some of things written by so called christians are shocking on this wall – and some of the comments by the gay community or supporter are nothing short of disgusting.....shame on all of you

    June 3, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
    • Bet

      Welcome to the internet.

      June 3, 2012 at 4:26 pm |
    • GALACTICA-CMDR. AIR GROUP

      (In his best "Gene Wilder as Willy Wonka" voice): You were offended by something you read on the Internet?

      You must be new here!

      June 3, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
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