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My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality
The author writes that it's fine for Christians to take certain biblical condemnations seriously while ignoring others.
May 21st, 2012
10:00 AM ET

My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality

Editor's Note: R. Albert Mohler Jr. is president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, the flagship school of the Southern Baptist Convention and one of the largest seminaries in the world.

By R. Albert Mohler Jr., Special to CNN

Are conservative Christians hypocritical and selective when it comes to the Bible’s condemnation of homosexuality? With all that the Bible condemns, why the focus on gay sex and same-sex marriage?

Given the heated nature of our current debates, it’s a question conservative Christians have learned to expect. “Look,” we are told, “the Bible condemns eating shellfish, wearing mixed fabrics and any number of other things. Why do you ignore those things and insist that the Bible must be obeyed when it comes to sex?”

On its face, it’s a fair question. But it can be posed in two very different ways.

First, the question can be asked to suggest that the Bible’s clear condemnation of sexual sins can simply be set aside. The other way of posing the question represents a genuine attempt to understand how the Bible is to be rightly applied to life today.

In truth, those asking the question the first way really don’t want an answer.

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An honest consideration of the Bible reveals that most of the biblical laws people point to in asking this question, such as laws against eating shellfish or wearing mixed fabrics, are part of the holiness code assigned to Israel in the Old Testament. That code was to set Israel, God’s covenant people, apart from all other nations on everything from morality to diet.

As the Book of Acts makes clear, Christians are not obligated to follow this holiness code. This is made clear in Peter’s vision in Acts 10:15. Peter is told, “What God has made clean, do not call common.”

In other words, there is no kosher code for Christians. Christians are not concerned with eating kosher foods and avoiding all others. That part of the law is no longer binding, and Christians can enjoy shrimp and pork with no injury to conscience.

The Bible’s commands on sexual behavior, on the other hand, are continued in the New Testament. When it comes to homosexuality, the Bible’s teaching is consistent, pervasive, uniform and set within a larger context of law and Gospel.

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The Old Testament clearly condemns male homosexuality along with adultery, bestiality, incest and any sex outside the covenant of marriage. The New Testament does not lessen this concern but amplifies it.

The New Testament condemns both male and female homosexual behavior. The Apostle Paul, for example, points specifically to homosexuality as evidence of human sinfulness. His point is not merely that homosexuals are sinners but that all humanity has sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

The New Testament condemns a full range of sexual sins, and homosexuality is specified among these sins. In Romans, Paul refers to homosexuality in terms of “dishonorable passions,” “contrary to nature” and “shameless.” As New Testament scholar Robert Gagnon has stated, the Bible’s indictment “encompasses every and any form of homosexual behavior.”

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Some people then ask, “What about slavery and polygamy?” In the first place, the New Testament never commands slavery, and it prizes freedom and human dignity. For this reason, the abolitionist movement was largely led by Christians, armed with Christian conviction.

The Old Testament did allow for polygamy, though it normalizes heterosexual monogamy. In the New Testament, Jesus made clear that marriage was always meant to be one man and one woman.

“Have you not read that He who created them made them male and female?” Jesus asked in Matthew. "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.” For this reason, Christians have opposed polygamy on biblical grounds.

Why are Christians so concerned with homosexuality? In the first place, that question is answered by the simple fact that it is the most pressing moral question of our times. Christians must be concerned about adultery, pornography, injustice, dishonesty and everything the Bible names as sin. But when my phone rings with a call from a reporter these days, the question I am asked is never adultery or pornography. It is about homosexuality.

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Christians who are seriously committed to the authority of the Bible have no choice but to affirm all that the Bible teaches, including its condemnation of homosexuality. At the same time, our confidence is that God condemns those things that will bring his human creatures harm and commands those things that will lead to true human happiness and flourishing.

In other words, we understand that the Bible condemns all forms of sin because our Creator knows what is best for us. The Bible names sins specifically so that each of us will recognize our own sinfulness and look to Christ for salvation and the forgiveness of our sins.

Christian love requires that we believe and teach what the Bible teaches and that we do so with both strong conviction and humble hearts. The Church must repent of our failures in both of these tasks, but we must not be silent where the Bible speaks.

Are Christians hypocrites in insisting that homosexual behavior is sin? We, too, are sinners, and hypocrisy and inconsistency are perpetual dangers.

The church failed miserably in the face of the challenge of divorce. This requires an honest admission and strong corrective.

At the same time, this painful failure must remind us that we must not fail to answer rightly when asked what the Bible teaches about homosexuality. Love requires us to tell the truth.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of R. Albert Mohler Jr.

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Filed under: Bible • Christianity • Gay marriage • Opinion

soundoff (7,995 Responses)
  1. echo

    f you're OK with your friends, neighbours, family members, and selves, UNLESS you're getting your "morals" from the Bible, then it's long past time to consider getting RID OF THAT BIBLE.

    July 8, 2012 at 7:35 pm |
    • LeOn

      I would like to purchase the book Healing from Heaven. I would to buy bank draft or tlirgeaphec transfer is that excepted by you. Is this book sold in any Christian Book store in Malaysia.?please advise.Thank you.

      July 30, 2012 at 12:36 am |
    • Odair

      i really like this meassge of Love. i have often pondered on this.The feeling of first love' and one wanting to hear and be near to that person all the time.Wanting to give unconditionallySacrificing oneself for the one you loveThe one you love occupying your mind all the time.That anticipated meeting after a term of separationThe pain one feels when the person you love is suffering or in distressThe immense joy one feels when you are in harmony and with the person you love.IS THIS HEAVEN!!!!!

      July 31, 2012 at 11:40 pm |
  2. Wes Thompson

    Jesus Christ's words in the New Testament were also plain that a man (notice "man" you so-called literal people not knowing that literal does not mean as it happened or it happened but as it was written) could commit adultery in "his" heart without ever acting out or literally doing anything. John 3:16 For GOD so loved the world, ( I hope in this case most would think of the world as our modern world as well as that ancient world) that he gave His only Begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 1 John 2:2 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world." Sin is separation from God which only man made religion teaches. So if Jesus did not take away the sins of the world, before, now and forever and finished his work, then he was the biggest loser in the history of mankind. Dismiss, reject, rebuke and correct ungodly religious creatures of evil who use guilt and sin to bedevil God's precious creation with their religious hells and sins when the Son of God took the sins of the world away forever and God receives all for all came from God. If some of you literal religious serpents still insist on eating the flesh and blood of Jesus and it be so-called literal, then you better start hunting for some that was left over two thousand years ago or you are damned before you can get started. Every person that ever lived or live will go back to God from whence they came. Not to Rome or to Protestant blasphemy or any other religious persuasion but to God and God is greater, more powerful, more loving and more accepting than any person that ever claimed to have existed on this planet. There is a great enlightening taking place all over the world that will sweep man made religion into the hole of its own destruction and will bring an enlightened people to overcome religion, Republicans, right-wingers, and any other blasphemer who dares open his mouth to speak for God and condemn what Jesus did not do.

    July 7, 2012 at 7:04 pm |
    • Wes Thompson

      John 3:17 KJV For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.John 17 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them. And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

      July 7, 2012 at 7:16 pm |
  3. gary47290

    Mr Mohler is duplicitous. Reporters do not call him asking about adultery and other sins (which are unambiguously condemned by Jesus and Paul), because he and his cohort have spend 30+ years going apoplectic over Gay and Lesbian Americans. Where was his moral indignation when Newt Gingrich was committing chronic and serial adultery? Where was his indignation when the greed of bankers and Wall Street tanked the economy?

    June 26, 2012 at 12:49 am |
    • John

      What exactly do you want him to say? That he thinks adultery is more wrong than previously supposed?

      There simply isnt a controversy around adultery right now, I dont think I've heard or seen anyone– even on the internet– seriously suppose that "perhaps adultery isnt as wrong as previously supposed."

      July 8, 2012 at 11:56 pm |
  4. Sane Person

    For those of us that are not christian, the bible is just an old book with about as much relevance to the world as "The Stand" or "A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy."

    June 21, 2012 at 5:55 pm |
    • Just Killing Time

      That's incredibly offensive!

      Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy is incredibly relevant!

      June 25, 2012 at 9:22 am |
    • Sam Yaza

      the "hitchhikers guide" is all based on truth soon they will destroy the earth to make way for an interstellar high way and unless we make are way to the the HQ to place out letter of content we will are surly die so hurry up with the science and space travel

      July 9, 2012 at 12:07 am |
  5. Fiona

    Notice how they never seem to quote Jesus himself? It is always Paul or the Old Testament. Granted, Jesus didn't really say very much and what he did say related to following a very difficult spiritual path really really similar to Buddhism. leave your job the moment you hear the call. Walk right away from your family, don't even attend your father's funeral and see your mother is provided for. Own nothing, have no shelter. Ask only to be given 'this day, our daily bread', no more. Contemplate the perfection of nature and aim for such perfection yourself. And women are absolutely welcome to join. Put down the housework and follow the better path. But Jesus didn't condemn those who couldn't follow this path. He said they were not ready (when would they be ready? In another life, presumably. Nothing else makes sense) Jesus failure, like that of Buddha, was to not provide literal laws and rules for ordinary people, for those who weren't ready.

    June 20, 2012 at 6:01 am |
  6. Bob

    This guy is right on. Jesus also says to ditch your wife and children. And the Bible tells you to kill your kids if they talk back. We need to implement these policies into our government as well. We need a Bible-centered 'Murica

    June 19, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
  7. RC

    They are singling out their bias against the LGBT community. After all, I don't see then trying to take away the rights of adulterers anytime soon.

    June 19, 2012 at 12:52 pm |
    • Bet

      They wouldn't have anyone left in the church. After all, there's that pesky, Matthew 5:27-28

      27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[a] 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

      June 19, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
  8. well said

    well, that's a good case made for why the Bible is clear on its stance against perfectly normal human activity. I couldn't have made a better case myself for why the Bible has zero moral authority whatsoever.

    Succinctly put: the Bible strongly condemns behaviour which we now understand to be a legitimate and healthy expression of the human spirit. Therefore, the Bible is not acceptable as a moral guide, and it's "teachings" are only going to stunt us all emotionally, artistically, and intellectually.

    Or put another way, if the teachings are clear, and they're also evil, then please give up your Bibles and live as happier people. And stop foisting your Stockholm Syndrome off on the rest of us. Or if you just want to be bossed around and beaten down and told you're no good, well, I do believe that religion holds a huge amount of mas ochistic appeal for most of its adherents. I hear there are clubs in Midtown for that, it'll cost you a lot less and you'll have a much better experience.

    As the cultists say: "By their fruits you shall know them" - big.otry and repression are particularly bitter fruits. It's time to retire your Bibles.

    June 18, 2012 at 10:50 pm |
  9. Stars

    For Christians, the concept of one man and one woman marriage is fine. However, the law must also recognize that there are many who are not Christians, and MUST address their concerns and freedom of choice concerning their fully consented adult choices. Christians should obey their own laws, but must not impose their laws or morality on those who do not share their beliefs. And the same goes for all other religious beliefs. There is a difference between religious and secular marriage, and these differences must be acknowledged and addressed by a free, fair and unbigoted/unbiased point of view.

    June 18, 2012 at 5:10 pm |
  10. God

    Pay no attention to these men in robes, I send them not.. and the fabric of their logic is riddled with the holes of a thousand locusts.

    I am the Lord Thy God.

    June 18, 2012 at 3:18 am |
    • Booboo

      No you're not. You're some dipsh!t in Podunk, Iowa who has delusions of adequacy.

      June 18, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
  11. Gadflie

    This man is a Southern Baptist. And he has the gall to blow off the slavery issue by claiming that Christians lead the fight against it? Well, Southern Baptists were on the other side of that fight. Citing Biblical reasons of course.

    June 17, 2012 at 9:32 pm |
    • Farley Flapfinger

      Southern Baptists aren't Christians...but they play them on television.

      June 18, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
  12. wYo8

    At some point we will find out who is right and who is wrong when it comes to religion, God, His word, etc. We all were born to this earth and we all will die. Do we have a Supreme creator or did we just begin at conception. Hopefully these questions will be answered at some point. Just what if there is a God and that the Bible is the word of God, if yes is there more for us to learn. If there is no God then we are all in the same boat. But hopefully religion has helped some people to be more forgiving of others and better in general. This world needs good people whether they be religious or not.

    June 17, 2012 at 8:43 pm |
  13. dalecarrollcoleman

    This man has shared his beliefs based on the word of God. A book written by God, through man. His word says it is without error. A book that has stood the test of time, over 2,000 years. It is a book based on love and offers freedom, not bondage to all who read it and choose to believe . To have faith in something unseen. We say there is no god, but we are looking at this from a limited human view. Why do we put ourselves on the same level as GOD? How foolish man is to think he understands much. We seek human wisdom instead of seeking God, who says He will give us wisdom. I will take His wisdom any day over my own foolish thoughts. How many of you have opened this book and read it? God talks about having faith like a child. He makes faith simple for us and open to everyone, no matter their intelligence. God is love and He wants all to know HIm. He makes it easy. Perhaps if we stopped for a few moments, and listened for HIm, we might hear HIm calling to us, His children. He created us ALL in His image. He LOVES each of us the same. We all sin and were born into it. Lets slow down and look to Him instead of throwing stones at one anther.
    This article is full of Gods truth. I am not a Southern Baptist, but i recognize the truth of Gods word. Its not right to criticize one who shares their view point based on God, not themselves. I often tell others, this is not a viewpoint or a belief system based on what makes me feel good. There is one truth that I can go to and I know it is solid, never changing and i know it is based in love for all man. I also know that God gave us some directions on how to live, because He knows what is best for us. He offers freedom from the bondage of this world.
    Instead, many of us choose poorly and live in darkness, with veil covered eyes, blind to a God who chose you as HIs own and is waiting for you to come home. Its not too late, but this life is but a vapor. Dont' believe the lies of this world. Seek Him and He will show Himself to you. His word says so. Blessings to all.

    June 13, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
    • Bet

      A book that was written by man to control men.

      June 14, 2012 at 3:07 pm |
    • Joseph

      1. Is God omnipotent, all loving, and did he create everything?
      2. If so, then didn't he also create evil?
      3. If not, then isn't he clearly powerless to stop it?
      4. If not, then how is he any of #1?

      June 14, 2012 at 9:07 pm |
    • joe

      Very nice post. Too true, for most.

      June 18, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • Kevin Leech

      It is strange , all the things people believe in , the parts of the whole. Judge not , be judged. All children are gods children, not all straight children or all christian children. why separate using fear of God, God only loves, don't use your hate to cover up your idea of right and wrong and name it Gods will. Shame on you , hate of anyone is not love ,this is true. Just love and you will let go of your judgement of others and thier ways. Love yourself and love others in this life we live today.

      June 18, 2012 at 6:29 pm |
    • Spawned

      The Bible was not written by God in any way! Jesus is not the Son of God, it's ALL made up. Religion, the death of a soul. Please stop!

      June 19, 2012 at 10:33 pm |
    • Gama

      the fact that your post got the most replies says a lot...theres conviction in them words!! amen brother!

      June 22, 2012 at 6:45 pm |
    • Melinda

      well said!!! We are ALL sinners in need of a holy and loving God, who didn't even have to make the world colorful...it could've been black and white. Colors are for us, whom He loves! Ever look down on your newborn with pride and a heart full of love? Imagine that, times 1 million at least, to get a grasp on His love for us!

      June 24, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
    • Rick

      Dale, I'm glad you have found such passion in your faith, based on such an ancient and revered text. I'm also glad that you see its relevance in today's world. Remembering God loves all people regardless of sin or belief is important and remembering that only God may judge is also important.
      What you may fail to realize however is that your arguments are based on your faith, and while the Bible is certainly a revered text, it is by no means the oldest, most revered, or most widespread through history. Here is a list of books that other people on this planet have written and revered throughout the ages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_literature). These books and guides showed people for over 4000 years how they should live. And that's why faith battles are never won on this plane of existence. There are far too many faiths for us to wrap our minds around the universal truth. Please remember there are other faiths that operate on this planet and do not force everyone to believe the same thing. It will never work.

      July 2, 2012 at 7:50 am |
  14. Thank Bog for non-christians

    Once again, a man interprets words written by men and attributes them to a god. The "Christian love" cited seems very selective, and yes, many of them are indeed hypocrites.

    June 13, 2012 at 7:23 am |
    • joe

      God has said that not many will enter the kingdom of heaven, for the way is narrow, and straight.

      June 18, 2012 at 11:53 am |
  15. Ben

    I think the more concerning aspect of this is why we even care what the Bible or any other religious text says about public policy. The idea that some goat herders wandering the desert should be consulted on public policy is ludicrous. Your private religious beliefs are just that. People who are serious about crafting public policy should be looking at pertinent and quantifiable metrics to determine what policy should be crafted. Second, the government should not be in the business of recognizing "marriages" in the first place. Marriage is an inherently religious sacrament associated with various religious denominations. The government should simply acknowledge permanent domestic partnerships with whomever anyone decides to partner with. Who cares what Islam, Judaism, and Christianity say about anything?

    June 11, 2012 at 9:10 pm |
    • Mark

      Well put Ben.

      So what he's saying is you can bend the words any way you choose, but only if it agrees with "Christian" doctrine...

      June 12, 2012 at 8:54 am |
    • Melinda

      go back to your third world country where laws don't even exist, and chaos is the norm.

      June 24, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  16. viaquest

    anyone here ever play the game "rumor"? where you whisper something in someone's ear and they spread it around untill it gets back to you and you all laugh at how it changed ?... there I just defined religion. There is no physical proof that there is a God, but there is physical proof that what was written in the Bible is false, sometimes you have to just do the math. Science makes it impossible to believe the giant omnipotent sky person theory! We laugh at the Vikings Valhala and their many God's, We laugh at the Romans and their many Gods, We make fun of the Indian's and their many Gods, ect , Some day in the future people will make fun of the One God the religions of toady worship , we are so sure the past multi diety belief is incorrect, see back to the game of "rumor" it started off with many Gods now after centuries we're down to just one .What's next

    June 11, 2012 at 8:37 pm |
  17. There is so much wrong with this guy's rant it's not funny

    FIRST OF ALL: In Leviticus, there isn't a list of "Holiness Codes" and a list of "Those Things That You Still Have To Do Codes".
    Secondly, how do you get "You can eat anything you want now" from "What God has made clean, do not call common.” God said that Pork was UNCLEAN. So why are Christians calling it common then?
    THIRD – what kind of messed up god makes rules for SOME people, but not others? Jews eat pork and they go to hell, but Christians eat pork and it's OK?

    "our confidence is that God condemns those things that will bring his human creatures harm" AH – I see. So Christians have a magical ability to shield themselves from Pork's harm, but the Jewish folk do not have that ability... Hmmm – so if today I'm a Christian, I can eat pork, but if tomorrow I convert to Judaism, I'm suddenly powerless and Pork can then harm me. So then, on Monday, when I realize I don't like being a Jew and want to be a Gentile, again, that means I'll REGAIN my Pork SuperPowers and will be impervious to the Dark Forces of Pork.

    Ever heard that one about telling a lie is complicated, because you end up having to tell another lie, and then another lie, and after awhile you get yourself tied into a pretzel because you can't remember all the lies you told to begin with and you start contradicting yourself?

    Yeah – it's like that.

    "The church failed miserably in the face of the challenge of divorce. This requires an honest admission and strong corrective."

    AH – I see, that's why there is a concerted effort going on in Congress as I type to BAN ALL DIVORCE FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER. Got it. We'll be holding our breaths for that one.

    "Love requires us to tell the truth."

    OK. THERE IS NO GOD. Cuz, ya know, I love ya lots. Really, I do.

    June 8, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • onliberty

      Your ignorance about the tenets, doctrines and history of both Judaism and Christianity is astonishing. If you would like to have a civil and honest conversation about these things, I would happily oblige. But if your only goal is to ridicule that which you do not understand, then you are choosing to be ignorant and any hope of an intellectual conversation with you would obviously and unfortunately be in vain.

      June 8, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
    • YeahRight

      "I would happily oblige. But if your only goal is to ridicule that which you do not understand, then you are choosing to be ignorant and any hope of an intellectual conversation with you would obviously and unfortunately be in vain."

      Funny the same can be said when it comes to the gay issue. Many Christians posting here want to just ignore all the experts on the subject. LOL! The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Counseling Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American School Counselor Association, the National Association of School Psychologists, and the National Association of SocialWorkers, together representing more than 480,000 mental health professionals, have all taken the position that homosexuality is not a mental disorder and thus is not something that needs to or can be “cured."

      June 8, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
    • onliberty

      @YeahRight,

      I posted a reply to you, but for some reason it is not showing up. I think you have valid points that are worth discussing further. Let's talk.

      June 11, 2012 at 8:32 am |
    • Melinda

      Sincerely I will pray for you. I don't want it to be hot where you are heading. Please open your heart. You started off making sense, but you created your own pretzel of lies. Please please open your heart to the truth of God's love. It is NOT finger pointing, but a God who is calling us to Him, giving us free choice! Choose this day whom you will follow...

      June 24, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
  18. Kindness

    For you.
    A thought to consider without a typical ego response

    Accept Jesus christ as your lord and saviour. You never know how soon is too late. Transcend the worldly illusion of enslavement.
    The world denounces truth....

    Accepting Jesus Christ (for me) resulted in something like seeng a new colour. You will see it .....but will not be able to clearly explain it to anyone else..... Its meant to be that way to transend any selfism within you.

    Also... much the world arranges "surrounding dark matter into something to be debated" in such a way that protects/inflates the ego.

    The key is be present and transcend our own desire to physically see evidence. We don't know anyways by defending our own perception of dark matter.

    Currently.... most of us are constructing our own path that suits our sin lifestyle. Were all sinners. Knowing that we are is often an issue. But both christians and non are sinners.

    We don't like to Let go and let god. We want control to some degree. This is what Jesus asks us to do. "Let go and let god".
    It's the hardest thing to do... but is done by letting the truth of scripture lead you (redemptive revelation)... as I said .

    Try reading corinthians and see if it makes sense to you. Try it without a pre conceived notion of it being a fairy tale.
    See the truth...
    do we do what it says in todays society... is it relevant... so many have not recently read and only hinge their philosophy on what they have heard from som other person...which may have been full of arogance pride or vanity..

    Look closely at the economy ponzi, look at how society idolizes Lust , greed , envy, sloth, pride of life, desire for knowledge, desire for power, desire for revencge,gluttony with food etc .

    Trancsend the temporal world.

    Just think if you can find any truth you can take with you ....in any of these things. When you die your riches go to someone who will spend away your life..... You will be forgotten.... history will repeat iteslf.... the greatest minds knowledge fade or are eventually plagerzed..... your good deeds will be forgotten and only give you a fleeting temporary reward . your learned teachings are forgotten or mutated..... your gold is transfered back to the rullers that rule you through deception. Your grave will grow over . This is truth .

    Trancsend your egoism and free yourself from this dominion of satan. Understand you are a sinner and part of the collective problem of this worldly matrix... Repent.... Repent means knowing

    Evidence follows faith. Faith does not follow evidence..... Faith above reason in Jesus Christ.

    Faith comes by Reading or Hearing the word of god from the bible . Ask Jesus in faith for dicernment and start reading the new testament... You will be shocked when you lay down your preconceived notions and ....see and hear truth ... see how christ sets an example ... feel the truth....

    Read Ecclesiastes. Read corinthians.

    You cant trancend your own egoism by adapting a world philosophy to suit your needs. Seek the truth in Christ.

    Sell all your cleverness and purchase true bewilderment. You don't get what you want ....you get what you are in christ.

    I promise this has been the truth for me. In Jesus christ .

    Think of what you really have to lose. ...your ego?

    Break the Matrix of illusion that holds your senses captive.

    once you do . you too will have the wisdom of God that comes only through the Holy Spirit. Saved By grace through Faith. Just like seeing a new colour.... can't explain it to a transient caught in the matrix of worldly deception.
    You will also see how the world suppresses this information and distorts it

    You're all smart people . I tell the truth. Its hard to think out of the box when earthly thinking is the box.
    I'ts a personal free experience you can do it free anytime . Don't wait till you are about to die.. START PUTTING YOUR TREASURES WHERE THEY REALLY MATTER >
    Its awsome and It's just between you and Jesus

    June 6, 2012 at 6:10 pm |
    • r l

      blah blah blah, yaketty schmakety

      June 8, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
    • viaquest

      "let go and let God"....wow , you really need a meeting don't you

      June 11, 2012 at 8:23 pm |
    • BarbD

      If it's "just between you and Jesus" then why do you people keep puking it up on the rest of us instead of keeping it to yourselves?

      June 13, 2012 at 2:48 pm |
    • A little more complicated than the surface issues

      I admire your effort but such direct statements are not going to help in what you are trying to do to people who are not believers. Outside of the church, statements like this do sound weird to the rest of society.

      June 18, 2012 at 11:48 am |
    • joe

      Amen

      June 18, 2012 at 11:56 am |
  19. Cissy

    I am constantly amazed that the secular world puts us all in the same boat, sharing the same beliefs. I love JESUS CHRIST but at the same time I surely understand that the Bible is a very heavily edited Book written by fallible human beings with hidden agendas. It's an 'outline' of GOD's expectations, NOT a full color portrait at all. I think that GOD expects/hopes that most of us would figure that out and act accordingly. Hardlining haters are just as sad and misguided as the rest of us, they just don't know it. Many, such as the man who wrote this article, would have you believe they have nothing but love for thier fellow man who walk a different path while they collect money to pay lobbyists to take GOD given rights away from those same people. Is there a word for somebody who believes and loves GOD with her whole heart and soul, but would not like to be called Christian because of the ugliness that goes with that word? If there is, thats what I am.

    June 6, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
    • jim

      Seeing as god has never spoken or written anything himself and that he seems completely indifferent to people ra ping children in his name I think it's time for people to leave religion to the dark ages of human history and to treat others the way they would want to be treated.

      June 6, 2012 at 1:03 pm |
    • Yep.

      Eloquently stated. Amen, sister.

      June 6, 2012 at 9:34 pm |
    • Cissy

      GOD speaks to me, Jim. It isn't that HE doesn't speak, it's that we don't listen.

      June 8, 2012 at 11:31 am |
    • Adam

      Religious moderation provides the shade under which extremism is allowed to flourish. You are, by accepting the premise that the Bible is a book unlike any other book, tacitly endorsing those who read the same book and take it at its word. You can say NOTHING to the man who kylls a LGBT person, for you accept that the book (which commands this!) is the Word of the Creator of the Universe, you merely have inserted an interpretation out of personal convenience that allows you to obviate this command.

      You are in NO position to oppose the evil of Christians who ACTUALLY believe what they SAY they believe. And you are part of the problem

      June 8, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
    • joe

      You can love Jesus all you want to, but it will do you no good if you do not believe that the bible is the inspired word of God. As He has said.

      June 18, 2012 at 11:58 am |
    • Mike

      "You can love Jesus all you want to, but it will do you no good if you do not believe that the bible is the inspired word of God. As He has said."

      The point is he never said it men wrote it in to try and make people like you believe in their cult.

      June 18, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
  20. Stan

    Mark Osler's articl is so full of compassion and love and understanding.
    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/19/my-take-the-christian-case-for-gay-marriage/
    Mr. Mohler's opinion is full of wonderful logic to justify judgment and condemnation of our fellow human beings.
    It is fascinating to me how you can consider yourself a follower of Christ who said clearly "Judge not, lest ye be judged", and somehow twist that into a moral imperative to judge... Fascinating.
    What if rather, you tried to respect people, honor them, and honor God by loving with full heart and compassion? Failing that, what if you just tried to respect people enough to let THEM decide what God is telling them is right?
    I'm sorry to say that I do not see an ounce of Christianity in this article.

    June 6, 2012 at 12:10 pm |
    • ib42

      ...or anywhere in the lives of self appointed leaders of the faith. i.e., the right wing nuts heading for the white house.

      June 10, 2012 at 10:44 pm |
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