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My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality
The author writes that it's fine for Christians to take certain biblical condemnations seriously while ignoring others.
May 21st, 2012
10:00 AM ET

My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality

Editor's Note: R. Albert Mohler Jr. is president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, the flagship school of the Southern Baptist Convention and one of the largest seminaries in the world.

By R. Albert Mohler Jr., Special to CNN

Are conservative Christians hypocritical and selective when it comes to the Bible’s condemnation of homosexuality? With all that the Bible condemns, why the focus on gay sex and same-sex marriage?

Given the heated nature of our current debates, it’s a question conservative Christians have learned to expect. “Look,” we are told, “the Bible condemns eating shellfish, wearing mixed fabrics and any number of other things. Why do you ignore those things and insist that the Bible must be obeyed when it comes to sex?”

On its face, it’s a fair question. But it can be posed in two very different ways.

First, the question can be asked to suggest that the Bible’s clear condemnation of sexual sins can simply be set aside. The other way of posing the question represents a genuine attempt to understand how the Bible is to be rightly applied to life today.

In truth, those asking the question the first way really don’t want an answer.

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An honest consideration of the Bible reveals that most of the biblical laws people point to in asking this question, such as laws against eating shellfish or wearing mixed fabrics, are part of the holiness code assigned to Israel in the Old Testament. That code was to set Israel, God’s covenant people, apart from all other nations on everything from morality to diet.

As the Book of Acts makes clear, Christians are not obligated to follow this holiness code. This is made clear in Peter’s vision in Acts 10:15. Peter is told, “What God has made clean, do not call common.”

In other words, there is no kosher code for Christians. Christians are not concerned with eating kosher foods and avoiding all others. That part of the law is no longer binding, and Christians can enjoy shrimp and pork with no injury to conscience.

The Bible’s commands on sexual behavior, on the other hand, are continued in the New Testament. When it comes to homosexuality, the Bible’s teaching is consistent, pervasive, uniform and set within a larger context of law and Gospel.

My Take: The Christian case for gay marriage

The Old Testament clearly condemns male homosexuality along with adultery, bestiality, incest and any sex outside the covenant of marriage. The New Testament does not lessen this concern but amplifies it.

The New Testament condemns both male and female homosexual behavior. The Apostle Paul, for example, points specifically to homosexuality as evidence of human sinfulness. His point is not merely that homosexuals are sinners but that all humanity has sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

The New Testament condemns a full range of sexual sins, and homosexuality is specified among these sins. In Romans, Paul refers to homosexuality in terms of “dishonorable passions,” “contrary to nature” and “shameless.” As New Testament scholar Robert Gagnon has stated, the Bible’s indictment “encompasses every and any form of homosexual behavior.”

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Some people then ask, “What about slavery and polygamy?” In the first place, the New Testament never commands slavery, and it prizes freedom and human dignity. For this reason, the abolitionist movement was largely led by Christians, armed with Christian conviction.

The Old Testament did allow for polygamy, though it normalizes heterosexual monogamy. In the New Testament, Jesus made clear that marriage was always meant to be one man and one woman.

“Have you not read that He who created them made them male and female?” Jesus asked in Matthew. "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.” For this reason, Christians have opposed polygamy on biblical grounds.

Why are Christians so concerned with homosexuality? In the first place, that question is answered by the simple fact that it is the most pressing moral question of our times. Christians must be concerned about adultery, pornography, injustice, dishonesty and everything the Bible names as sin. But when my phone rings with a call from a reporter these days, the question I am asked is never adultery or pornography. It is about homosexuality.

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Christians who are seriously committed to the authority of the Bible have no choice but to affirm all that the Bible teaches, including its condemnation of homosexuality. At the same time, our confidence is that God condemns those things that will bring his human creatures harm and commands those things that will lead to true human happiness and flourishing.

In other words, we understand that the Bible condemns all forms of sin because our Creator knows what is best for us. The Bible names sins specifically so that each of us will recognize our own sinfulness and look to Christ for salvation and the forgiveness of our sins.

Christian love requires that we believe and teach what the Bible teaches and that we do so with both strong conviction and humble hearts. The Church must repent of our failures in both of these tasks, but we must not be silent where the Bible speaks.

Are Christians hypocrites in insisting that homosexual behavior is sin? We, too, are sinners, and hypocrisy and inconsistency are perpetual dangers.

The church failed miserably in the face of the challenge of divorce. This requires an honest admission and strong corrective.

At the same time, this painful failure must remind us that we must not fail to answer rightly when asked what the Bible teaches about homosexuality. Love requires us to tell the truth.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of R. Albert Mohler Jr.

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Filed under: Bible • Christianity • Gay marriage • Opinion

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  1. We know the truth...

    Using the bible to prove the existence of god makes no more sense than using 'Twas the Night Before Christmas' to prove the existence of Santa Claus.

    May 21, 2012 at 7:47 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      John 8:44

      Amen.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:45 pm |
  2. Michael

    Oh the futility...

    Here are some comment counts (approximate at time of writing) for recent blogs on this subject:
    3,772: My take: The Bible condemns a lot .. / Molher Jr.
    6,258: My take: The Christian case for ... / Osler
    631: My take: ... a tale of two Christianities / Prothero
    3,563 : Your take: Rebuttals to rethinking ...
    7,274 My take: Rethinking the Bible ... / Helminiak

    A staggering 21,000 comments, many thoughtful, though few containing original ideas. And Stephen P must be feeling left out, though someone did post a very helpful list of words that the filter doesn't like in his blog.

    May 21, 2012 at 7:44 pm |
    • Michael

      The naughty word list is very helpful. I kept wondering why I couldn't refer to the const-tution. Apparently there's a bad word hidden in it.

      So keep those redundant comments coming. We only need about 3500 to top the blog from a week or so ago.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:49 pm |
    • LinCA

      And that list is worth repeating every now and then.

      CNN uses automated censoring that looks for words, or fragments of words, that are considered offensive. If your post doesn't show up, it most likely had a forbidden word in it.

      Repeat posts, even those that were previously censored and not displayed, will show a message stating that you posted it before.

      The following words or word fragments will get your post censored (list is incomplete):
      arse
      bastard
      bitch
      cock
      coon
      cum
      cunt
      douche
      effing
      fag
      ftw
      fuck
      homo
      horny
      jackass
      jap
      jism
      kinky
      kooch
      nipple
      orgy
      pis
      porn
      poo
      prick
      rape
      sex
      shit
      slut
      snatch
      spic
      tit
      twat
      vag
      whore
      wtf

      To circumvent the filters you can break up the words by putting an extra character in, like: consti.tution (breaking the oh so naughty "tit").

      May 21, 2012 at 7:52 pm |
    • Michael

      @LinCA, thanks for the list, it is helpful. And I just realized that I spelled Mr. Mohler Jr.'s name incorrectly.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:04 pm |
    • Sum Dude

      When I set out to make that list over a year ago, I had no idea that CNN would continue to use this deliberately stupid filter for so long.
      I'm glad people continue to use the list. There have been very few additions to it since my last update.

      As a side note, CNN is now employing moderators, at least one of which takes things too personally.
      They know who they are.

      They don't moderate much, so please don't try and tell me they don't exist. The "This Just In" blog is constantly moderated.
      Nicole Saidi tries very hard to help things run smoothly, but many posts are deleted without any good reason to do so there.

      I've had some very polite but "too long" (two or three small paragraphs) posts deleted over there and was told by Nicole they were too long as the reason for the deletion.

      Over here we can post gigantic posts like Reality does and they are not deleted.

      But there are days when I am banned from posting after only one or two posts.

      This ban lasts a while, so in the meantime I use proxy servers to get around these bans. Sometimes I can post a half-dozen times before needing another IP address.

      Today I was able to post 5 times before being banned. Yesterday I posted more than a dozen times before being banned.
      To anyone who wants to argue with me on this: Go fuck yourself.
      Sometimes I don't bother posting here. This truly is a crappy place to post opinions because of the filter and this "punitive" banning by some butthurt person at CNN. In fact, I'll just post this one post and go on vacation for a while.
      There are thousands of better places to make comments than CNN. I've found a few I like, but I am a loyal CNN troll even though I hate the filter and the retards who keep it in place. I am an old-timer who got used to watching CNN in the 80s for my world news, so I like to come here first before I check other news services.
      To all my friends, some of them long gone from here: Thanks for being there and being rational people.
      I will not be including the other esoteric technical information in this post. You'll have to glean those facts yourselves.
      -Sum Dude
      (ignore all other Sum Dude posts as they will not be me thanks to the name-stealers)

      May 21, 2012 at 8:22 pm |
    • LinCA

      @Sum Dude

      Thanks for compiling the original list.

      I've noticed that the list appears to be unique to each blog. Some blogs seem to have other restrictions in place. Some allow replies to go more levels deep. I guess some are actively moderated, although I haven't noticed any human activity in that regard here (but that doesn't mean that there isn't any).

      The few times that I know some of the belief Blog editors go through these comments is when they have some space to fill and cull a collection of unrelated comments and make it into a "Your take" article.

      I've heard about others being banned from posting and having to use a different proxy to get around that. I've never had any issues myself (as far as I can remember), and I'm not one to shy away from lengthy posts, or the use of some strong language.

      By the way, the one phrase that is the most mystifying on this blog is "wonderful us". For some reason it trips up the filters, and the usual tricks to get it posted are inconsistent.

      May 21, 2012 at 9:01 pm |
  3. andrew

    Imagine the arguments St. Pete standing at the Pearly Gates must hear: "I never knew about that verse; sorry," Or, "I didn't know it meant that; sorry." Or, "That was Old Testament; it don't count." If it's a Jew standing before him he'd hear, "That was New testament; it don't count." Or a Muslim would say, "That's not in the Quran; it don't count at all." A Buddist would quip, "Where's Buddah? He's my man." You could make the case that St Pete could rightfully go, "Go to hell – all of you!"
    So WHO's got the "Only Real Word"? Nobody, that's who, There are so many religious rules it's deafening. Hell, I'll probably be sent to hell for wearing those plaid pants to church back in the disco days. Actually, I should be; anybody who'd wear plaid pants should go to hell for buying such a thing. But hey – I didn't know; Linda, Charlotte, Becky, Peggy, Janet, and that new girl Denise sure liked them. I'm doomed because of pretty girls with bad taste in slacks! Can I take it all back? (All except for Denise, please?)

    May 21, 2012 at 7:42 pm |
    • Drew

      Hahaha great post

      May 21, 2012 at 7:47 pm |
    • HappyMadison

      Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.... Or I will send you to f'ing Hell. So sayeth the lord.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:53 pm |
  4. Don Pound

    To JohnTX – Don't believe Jesus approved Paul's writings. Jesus died about 30 years before Paul wrote anything

    May 21, 2012 at 7:42 pm |
    • goddog

      That's right. Jesus was the saviour of the Jews, not the Gentiles. Christians of today are worshipping Paul.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:48 pm |
    • mandarax

      and Paul is the one who has hangups about gays, not Jesus. Jesus never mentioned it.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:55 pm |
    • Michael

      Yes, but helpfully, almost 300 years later, in 325 AD, a bunch of (mostly) Greek bishops at the council of Nicea decided what to believe and over the next 50 years or so ago the church evolved exactly which words they decided were "the words of God".

      May 21, 2012 at 7:58 pm |
    • Sean

      One again Christians will stand behind the ignorant dogma of hate and judgement. When are they going to realize the bible was written by men full of hate and prejudice. The Christian religion was based on hate and forcing others to believe as they do. I think the bible says I have free choice.....I choose not to believe so stop trying to force your hate on me and all others who choose not to believe.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:05 pm |
  5. Rey

    If what this article says is true then why aren't children, politicians and pastors held to the same standards as Gays? Romans 20-9 “‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death. Because they have cursed their father or mother, their blood will be on their own head.
    Romans 20-10 “‘If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife —with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.

    May 21, 2012 at 7:34 pm |
    • JeffreyRO5

      It's a striking fact of modern American Christianity: pick and choose what works for you. And yes, straight people get a pass, but gay people don't.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:38 pm |
    • Travis

      There are 16 chapters in Romans...this text is not from Romans...

      May 21, 2012 at 7:43 pm |
    • n8263

      According to Jesus, the Divine Laws must still be followed. What should take precedence? Peter's dream in Acts Rev Mohler references, or Christ's actual words?

      Matthew 5:17:
      “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

      To this day under Christian Law you are not to eat pork and shrimp, wear blended fabric, and must murder your disobedient children, non-virgin brides and adulterers. If you can rationalize rejecting what Jesus clearly taught then you can rationalize rejecting any part of the Bible no longer compatible with civil society.

      Of course none of this matters since we have a separation of church and state and Americans would never impose their religion on others.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:48 pm |
    • Chad

      There are only 16 chapters in Romans. Nice try making something up though.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:49 pm |
    • KRHODES

      There is no Romas 20...Romans ends at chapter 16. You need to proof read what you are posting before hand.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:49 pm |
  6. We know the truth...

    Morality is doing what's right, no matter what you're told...

    Religion is doing what you're told, no matter what's right.

    May 21, 2012 at 7:31 pm |
    • Helena Hanbaskit

      Truer words were never written (and yes, that includes the scriptures).

      May 21, 2012 at 7:34 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      What is right? The statutes of the Lord are right (Psalm 19:8).

      Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. (Colossians 2:8).

      Amen.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:40 pm |
    • Snow

      unfortunately, the essence of those words are lost to you, heavensent.. dare I say every religious person who denys it as well..

      May 21, 2012 at 7:45 pm |
    • QS

      And yet logic such as this falls on deaf ears, as demonstrated by Heaven Sent, because those ears have been trained to only hear what they want rather than what is said.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:48 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Snow and QS, typical carnal mindsets and answers, not comprehending Jesus' spiritual truth.

      May 22, 2012 at 4:54 pm |
  7. God is Love

    Well, when you die you will find out who is right and who is wrong but by that time it will be too late for you......

    May 21, 2012 at 7:27 pm |
    • Shadowcandy

      Amen.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:29 pm |
    • Drew

      I can't believe that a just god would want us to gamble. If he does then I don't care much for him

      May 21, 2012 at 7:29 pm |
    • We know the truth...

      God Is Love? Really? Then why is religion the cause of virtually every war in world history?? Even today it's true... If god is love, his followers are the exact opposite.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:30 pm |
    • Snow

      Yes.. it will be too late for you to realize that all the time you wasted praying to god and thinking and reading about god, you could have done something with your life that you had wasted..

      so, open your eyes to the truth! 🙂

      May 21, 2012 at 7:33 pm |
    • Tom Paine

      God is love, you are not going to convince non-believers by threatening them. And that is what you wrote is. If God is love, win them over with love and not fear.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:36 pm |
    • Mark

      I've had enough incarnations that I'm really not that worried about Christian threats. When this body kicks out, I'll spend a little time thinking about what I've learned in this life, then get a new one.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:37 pm |
    • Fred

      Atheists are allowed to marry. People who worship Satan are allowed to marry. Yet Christians target gays because it's an accepted bigotry and brings in a lot of money for them. It's a huge fundraiser. Follow the money. It never fails. If targeting gays weren't profitable, it wouldn't happen. And again, there are many, many more edicts against non-believers in Christ in the Bible, yet you almost never hear Christians going after people of other faiths. Hmmmmm.....

      May 21, 2012 at 7:45 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Talk about parroting. "You're in big trouble when dad gets home, buster."

      May 21, 2012 at 7:45 pm |
    • goddog

      Your god never had anything for you. His chosen people are the Jews. Jesus was there to save the Jews only. Read your bible. Paul hijacked the religion and took it the way of Paganism. There is no salvation for you.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:46 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Tom,

      The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of knowledge: [but] fools despise wisdom and instruction.

      Proverbs 1:7

      Amen.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:51 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      But everyone despises the tool Heaven Sent.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:00 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      g-dog, obviously, you've never read John 10:24-33.

      Amen.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:03 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Oh, Tommie Tom is off her broomstick... oh, correction, bicycle. LOL.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:04 pm |
    • Sean

      Lol, Christianity is nothing but terrorism for the soul.....if you don't live the way we tell you to, then you're going to hell.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:24 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Sean, read John 8:44 to comprehend who you follow.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:47 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Tommie, Tom, too funny. I'm suppose to be intimidated by your multiple handles. LOL.

      May 22, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
  8. n8263

    Christians think Sharia Law is immoral but impose their own Sharia Law here in America.
    No matter what version, it's immoral to impose your religion by denying others civil rights.

    May 21, 2012 at 7:27 pm |
    • Ed The Oregonite

      excuse me...Christian Sharia Law?

      Did I miss the stoning of a gay man in America? I kinda thought CNN would have been on top of that!

      May 21, 2012 at 7:29 pm |
    • Drew

      Many gay men have been beaten to death

      May 21, 2012 at 7:33 pm |
    • Drew

      and women, of course

      May 21, 2012 at 7:34 pm |
    • Snow

      sayeth the same book that everyone quotes about gays..

      A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

      All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

      If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

      Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

      oh noooooooooo that is love incarnate.. no hate sharia style at all there!!!! isn't it!

      May 21, 2012 at 7:35 pm |
    • n8263

      Sharia Law literally translates as Religious Law. Denying equal rights based on Christian beliefs is a form of Sharia Law.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:35 pm |
    • Helena Hanbaskit

      many, many, many, many. If you don't think their small town churches enable that, you're fooling yourself.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:35 pm |
    • 2tor

      Nobody's denying anyone their civil rights, and find a new line to parrot.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:36 pm |
    • galaxy101

      Here...lemme clean that up for you so it makes complete sense...

      No matter what version, it's immoral to impose your religion, PERIOD !

      May 21, 2012 at 7:38 pm |
    • ksellin

      Who's denying anyone anything? We did what Americans do, we put it to a vote and which ever side got the most votes won. Things will change when they are supposed to.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:40 pm |
    • Salero21

      Sharia law is strictly a Muslim system of laws and regulations. Absolutely nothing to do with christianity.

      As christians we're not imposing Laws at all, because true christianity is about Grace, the Grace of God. The contrary is the true. When false P E R V E R T E D laws, are becoming the "law of the land", it is our duty to let the world know, we christians are Not going to go by those so called "laws". That are in reality no laws at all, but A B E R R A T I O N S and the product of R E P R O B A T E minds.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:40 pm |
    • Snow

      "Nobody's denying anyone their civil rights, and find a new line to parrot."

      oh, so const.itutionally denying two people to form/register themselves as family is NOT denying civil rights? which planet are you from?

      May 21, 2012 at 7:42 pm |
    • Steverino

      We are supposed to be protected from the tyranny of the majority where our rights are concerned.
      Might does not make right and a majority vote does not make something right.
      Anyone who thinks otherwise deserves to be blown out of a cannon towards Mexico.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:43 pm |
    • DB

      The issue here is not a denial of rights but a definition of terms. Christians are generally concerned with the definition of marriage, that it continue be legally recognized the way the Bible defines it. That is the aim. The purpose it NOT to deny someone civil rights. Many Christians, including Obama before a couple of weeks ago, think it's fine for gay couples to have the same rights extended to them via civil unions.

      Regarding those who Christians are trying to force their faith on others, please understand that force contravenes the very essence of faith. God has not created programmed robots, but humans with free will. We are not trying to force anyone into believing anything. Everyone has their choice to make.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:13 pm |
    • Sean

      Agreed!!!!

      May 21, 2012 at 8:28 pm |
  9. BOb the Prairie Dog

    We spend our formative, developmental years starring up at giant omnipotent beings looking down on us from above, providing for our every need. They reward us. They punish us. They teach us and love us. They are not called gods. They are called parents.

    May 21, 2012 at 7:24 pm |
    • ksellin

      Maybe you're not "starring" high enough BOb.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:42 pm |
  10. briawinde

    You can't pick and choose and use different passages as a basis for bigotry...Jesus wouldn't like it and God wouldn't be impressed. Shakes head...but you keep trying.......

    May 21, 2012 at 7:23 pm |
  11. Seth Pascal

    “Have you not read that He who created them made them male and female?” Jesus asked in Matthew. "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.”
    that says not one word about gays.

    May 21, 2012 at 7:22 pm |
    • americanjello

      Umm I don't know why you expect that, you just make up whatever you want and say it's holy and biblical!

      May 21, 2012 at 7:24 pm |
    • Drew

      Wow he also didn't mention cars, do you suppose we shouldn't be driving them? Gee whiz, I hope the internet isn't offending Jesus too much

      May 21, 2012 at 7:24 pm |
    • sam

      I'm pretty sure 'one flesh' means he is supposed to eat her. Woman was created from a rib, after all, and ribs are delicious. That's my interpretation of that passage. Which makes it totally ok, btw.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:25 pm |
    • Jesus

      I'm on the internet right now looking at gay p0rn! Woo hoo!

      May 21, 2012 at 7:26 pm |
    • Fuyuko

      Who knows what Jesus said or didn't. Many things were written long after his death.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:34 pm |
    • AtheistSteve

      Actually ALL of it was written long after his death. We have no idea what he might have said.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:36 pm |
    • Snow

      "Who knows what Jesus said or didn't. Many things were written long after his death."

      assuming he existed in the first place.. which the roman book keepers who were anal enough to write down the grocery list per family in the whole city did not even make one mention about executing..

      May 21, 2012 at 7:38 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      A-Steve,

      “Jesus saith unto him, ‘I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me’.”

      John 14:6

      Amen.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:56 pm |
  12. Nicole

    So the rules in the Old Testament only apply to a certain group. Therefore, the rules in the New Testament only apply to Christians. I am not Christian so those rules do not apply to me or other non-Christians. Stop trying to legislate from the pulpit!

    May 21, 2012 at 7:22 pm |
    • 2tor

      Looks to me like he's trying to set the record straight, not legislate anything. Got anything better?

      May 21, 2012 at 7:37 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

      1 Corinthians 1:18

      1 Corinthians 1:21-25

      21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
      22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
      23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
      24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
      25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

      Amen.

      May 21, 2012 at 9:02 pm |
  13. Answer

    Let me ask you deluded christians this one simply question:

    What do you intend to do in heaven?

    May 21, 2012 at 7:20 pm |
    • Drew

      Come on, let's not be silly, I'm no Christian but I understand that you don't do anything in heaven. Heaven isn't the least believable aspect of Xtian theology

      May 21, 2012 at 7:23 pm |
    • Snow

      wallow in love of god the eternity and sing songs on harps, of course.. and it will NEVER get boring!

      May 21, 2012 at 7:28 pm |
    • Drew

      Honestly just not existing must be a kind of heaven

      May 21, 2012 at 7:29 pm |
    • God Is Great

      I am going to party with Jesus and listen to Hitler's stories while we all laugh at Gandhi burning in a lake of sulfur.
      Gandhi was such an idiot to be born in the wrong part of the world!

      May 21, 2012 at 7:42 pm |
    • celtic

      not have to deal with you

      May 21, 2012 at 7:49 pm |
    • DB

      Talk about how sad it is that you couldn't join us.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:56 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away".

      Revelation 21:4

      Amen.

      May 21, 2012 at 9:04 pm |
  14. That one guy

    I do not believe you have the wits author of the article, to understand what is.

    May 21, 2012 at 7:20 pm |
  15. JonnyJive5

    Just skip the entire bible and read books that you don't have to pick and choose parts from.

    May 21, 2012 at 7:19 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Christians could say that your parents wasted their money on what you consider an education. Talk about cookie cutting at it's finest, you non-believers all sing the same mantra of chaos rules supreme, unless your toes are stepped on. That's when you seek the Lord's justice.

      May 22, 2012 at 5:00 pm |
  16. We know the truth...

    "When properly read, the bible is the most powerful proof of atheism ever conceived."

    Isaac Asimov

    May 21, 2012 at 7:18 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Oh yes, atheism. Do what you want, when you want, then fall back on Bart Simpson's theory "you didn't see me, I didn't do it, you can't prove a thing". LOL.

      May 22, 2012 at 5:02 pm |
  17. Answer

    HeavenSent

    No matter how many time you go on quoting those inane bible quotes you will never find heaven.

    You won't ever find any god. You'll just die whenever your death happens.

    May 21, 2012 at 7:16 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Answer, you have none. Everything you know is wrong.

      May 22, 2012 at 5:03 pm |
    • The King Is Coming

      Well, I guess if you say so, it MUST be true.

      August 9, 2012 at 11:10 pm |
  18. Shadowcandy

    Truth will stand the test of time. Lies shall be brought to light.

    May 21, 2012 at 7:15 pm |
    • Answer

      Truth will. Religions will never.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:17 pm |
    • Everlasting Godstopper

      And the Bible has been shown to be chock-full of LIES.

      Thanks for coming by.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:18 pm |
    • Shadowcandy

      @ED
      Yet you provide none to convince me? Am I to assume you're just going off of what the media portays or your actual knowledge on the topic?

      May 21, 2012 at 7:23 pm |
    • Snow

      a shmuck like you in ancient Greece argued the same about Zeus.. look where that went..need you any more proof?

      May 21, 2012 at 7:30 pm |
    • DB

      @ED

      Yes, why don't you mention some of these "lies" "the Bible has been shown to be chock-full of." Because it sounds like a lot of other common atheist-isms that have no grounds in reality. I am especially interested to read the "has been shown to be" part. It's funny, as much as atheists talk about demonstrative proof, none of you have proven anything about the falsehood of the Bible, much less of the nonexistence of God. So please, tell me what you think "has been shown."

      May 21, 2012 at 7:41 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      All the sinners that refuse to grow out of their carnal mindsets accuse Jesus of lying. Tell a Christian something new? Don't bump your heads while you keep hitting that concrete wall. LOL.

      May 22, 2012 at 5:06 pm |
  19. EricKuma

    The Bible is based on Bigotry and Ignorance.
    Its right there in plain text.
    Read it out loud and hear how senseless it is.
    Throw it away and Problems solved.

    May 21, 2012 at 7:14 pm |
    • Shadowcandy

      You outright contradict yourself.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:16 pm |
    • Tom Paine

      You must be disturbed that so many people disagree with you. The Bible remains one of the top selling books in the world.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:33 pm |
    • Drew

      and atlas shrugged is right after it, tom paine. That doesn't make it good or convincing literature

      May 21, 2012 at 7:40 pm |
    • momoya

      "Top-selling" and "Most-read" are two completely different descriptions.. They just both happen to be hyphenated adjectives..

      May 21, 2012 at 7:50 pm |
    • Tom Paine

      Perhaps it is more than literature. Perhaps it is a time capsule into the past that reveals a great deal about human nature and what is possible among us. But perhaps along with almost all history, we feel it is past us and beneath us and we are doomed to repeat it.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:53 pm |
    • Drew

      I certainly think the bible is a valuable book worthy of study, but this is far from subscribing any heavenly significance to it

      May 21, 2012 at 7:55 pm |
    • Tom Paine

      @ Momoya – if your point is that not everyone who buys a Bible reads it, I won't argue with you. But it is an incredibly influential work and one that human beings have found inspirational for generation after generation. You may take issue with it, but no matter your personal beliefs (or lack thereof) it is silly to dismiss it. The Scripture of all religions is important as we consider the human condition.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:56 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Eric, only sinners that want to keep on sinning with their sinful, carnal ways want Jesus' truth to be thrown out. If you have issues with His truth, it means you have issues you need to resolve. With His truth, you can do just that. Except. You have to stop being lazy and read His truth on your own ... without the advise of other sinners that refuse to give up their sinful carnal natures.

      May 22, 2012 at 5:09 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      Wow HeavenSent you really seem to like using the words sin and carnal.

      May 22, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
  20. NonnahsS

    Look, in the United States, marriage is a civil action that has been licensed by the state. God or Jesus are only a part of the event if they are invited. I know many people who have been married and have not so much as had a prayer at their service. In the United States, this service, is now a civil right that provides hundreds of other civil rights. Those civil rights must be awarded to all Americans, not just the few chosen by the far right. If you still beleive the marriage is an act of God and not by the state, try getting a divorce from the minister that performed your wedding. It's very simple... You can put whatever religous restrictions on marriage that you want, but marriage is not restricted to only Christians or only those of child bearing age. As long as marriage provides civil rights, all American's MUST be provided those same civil rights and the religous ramifications must be ignored. Again, it's only a religous event if you want it to be.

    May 21, 2012 at 7:09 pm |
    • sam

      Agreed.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:11 pm |
    • Rick

      Absolutely

      May 21, 2012 at 7:20 pm |
    • want2believe

      Notice there is no valid argument against your reasoning

      May 21, 2012 at 7:29 pm |
    • heather

      This. Exactly this.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:30 pm |
    • Chris

      Nonnahas: Are you saying that Christians have no right to express their beliefs and influence society just like you? Or, is it just plain irritating that there still are some people who occassionally remind society that there is indeed a Being out there with immutable standards with whom we will be held accountable some day?

      May 22, 2012 at 12:23 am |
    • fred

      What a bunch of BS
      Marriage benefits were based on a 70 year old Judeo Christian model where the little women stayed home and thended house while the man brought home the bacon. This is no longe the case so all Civil Rights should be removed from all marriages that happen after 2010.
      Now set up your Civil Marriage based on two individuals that want to make the commitment.
      No God necessary so get God out all together. You can't take the Christian benefits and spit on Christ.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:33 am |
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