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My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality
The author writes that it's fine for Christians to take certain biblical condemnations seriously while ignoring others.
May 21st, 2012
10:00 AM ET

My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality

Editor's Note: R. Albert Mohler Jr. is president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, the flagship school of the Southern Baptist Convention and one of the largest seminaries in the world.

By R. Albert Mohler Jr., Special to CNN

Are conservative Christians hypocritical and selective when it comes to the Bible’s condemnation of homosexuality? With all that the Bible condemns, why the focus on gay sex and same-sex marriage?

Given the heated nature of our current debates, it’s a question conservative Christians have learned to expect. “Look,” we are told, “the Bible condemns eating shellfish, wearing mixed fabrics and any number of other things. Why do you ignore those things and insist that the Bible must be obeyed when it comes to sex?”

On its face, it’s a fair question. But it can be posed in two very different ways.

First, the question can be asked to suggest that the Bible’s clear condemnation of sexual sins can simply be set aside. The other way of posing the question represents a genuine attempt to understand how the Bible is to be rightly applied to life today.

In truth, those asking the question the first way really don’t want an answer.

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An honest consideration of the Bible reveals that most of the biblical laws people point to in asking this question, such as laws against eating shellfish or wearing mixed fabrics, are part of the holiness code assigned to Israel in the Old Testament. That code was to set Israel, God’s covenant people, apart from all other nations on everything from morality to diet.

As the Book of Acts makes clear, Christians are not obligated to follow this holiness code. This is made clear in Peter’s vision in Acts 10:15. Peter is told, “What God has made clean, do not call common.”

In other words, there is no kosher code for Christians. Christians are not concerned with eating kosher foods and avoiding all others. That part of the law is no longer binding, and Christians can enjoy shrimp and pork with no injury to conscience.

The Bible’s commands on sexual behavior, on the other hand, are continued in the New Testament. When it comes to homosexuality, the Bible’s teaching is consistent, pervasive, uniform and set within a larger context of law and Gospel.

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The Old Testament clearly condemns male homosexuality along with adultery, bestiality, incest and any sex outside the covenant of marriage. The New Testament does not lessen this concern but amplifies it.

The New Testament condemns both male and female homosexual behavior. The Apostle Paul, for example, points specifically to homosexuality as evidence of human sinfulness. His point is not merely that homosexuals are sinners but that all humanity has sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

The New Testament condemns a full range of sexual sins, and homosexuality is specified among these sins. In Romans, Paul refers to homosexuality in terms of “dishonorable passions,” “contrary to nature” and “shameless.” As New Testament scholar Robert Gagnon has stated, the Bible’s indictment “encompasses every and any form of homosexual behavior.”

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Some people then ask, “What about slavery and polygamy?” In the first place, the New Testament never commands slavery, and it prizes freedom and human dignity. For this reason, the abolitionist movement was largely led by Christians, armed with Christian conviction.

The Old Testament did allow for polygamy, though it normalizes heterosexual monogamy. In the New Testament, Jesus made clear that marriage was always meant to be one man and one woman.

“Have you not read that He who created them made them male and female?” Jesus asked in Matthew. "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.” For this reason, Christians have opposed polygamy on biblical grounds.

Why are Christians so concerned with homosexuality? In the first place, that question is answered by the simple fact that it is the most pressing moral question of our times. Christians must be concerned about adultery, pornography, injustice, dishonesty and everything the Bible names as sin. But when my phone rings with a call from a reporter these days, the question I am asked is never adultery or pornography. It is about homosexuality.

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Christians who are seriously committed to the authority of the Bible have no choice but to affirm all that the Bible teaches, including its condemnation of homosexuality. At the same time, our confidence is that God condemns those things that will bring his human creatures harm and commands those things that will lead to true human happiness and flourishing.

In other words, we understand that the Bible condemns all forms of sin because our Creator knows what is best for us. The Bible names sins specifically so that each of us will recognize our own sinfulness and look to Christ for salvation and the forgiveness of our sins.

Christian love requires that we believe and teach what the Bible teaches and that we do so with both strong conviction and humble hearts. The Church must repent of our failures in both of these tasks, but we must not be silent where the Bible speaks.

Are Christians hypocrites in insisting that homosexual behavior is sin? We, too, are sinners, and hypocrisy and inconsistency are perpetual dangers.

The church failed miserably in the face of the challenge of divorce. This requires an honest admission and strong corrective.

At the same time, this painful failure must remind us that we must not fail to answer rightly when asked what the Bible teaches about homosexuality. Love requires us to tell the truth.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of R. Albert Mohler Jr.

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Filed under: Bible • Christianity • Gay marriage • Opinion

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  1. LOL Religion

    Here's why Christians focus on same $ex relationships: they're bigots and hypocrites.

    They simply cherry pick from an ancient tome written by desert dwelling primitives to find justification for being horrible, hateful, frightened people.

    You can be pretty certain that you've created god in your own image when your imaginary friend hates the same people you do.

    And remember, I'm not condemning Christians here: Love the Christian, hate their antiquated, bigoted, ridiculous religion.

    PS – I hope you all see how utterly condescending and hollow 'love the sinner, hate the sin' is now.

    May 21, 2012 at 8:20 pm |
    • Voodoorick

      Cherry pick what exactly?

      May 21, 2012 at 8:22 pm |
    • pastapharian

      excellent post. obvious points, yet seemingly so elusive to the religious amongst us.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:29 pm |
    • We know the truth...

      "Cherry pick what exactly?"

      Cherry pick the parts of the bible you follow and the parts that you ignore... You really didn't follow that??

      May 21, 2012 at 8:33 pm |
    • Voodoorick

      Yeah, I get what he's saying, but I'm asking for specifics. Considering the NT tells me the law is written on one's heart, how do you cherry pick? Obviously the things written on one's heart will resonate true and prompt action, while some things that are important in others' beliefs won't resonate at all.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:46 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      LOL Religion, I'm a Christian and I never discussed the gay issue until I came on this blog and that's the most asked question on here. Actually, I came on this blog to discuss the anti-social personalities that dwell among us.

      May 22, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
  2. jimzcarz

    You all do know that you are reading an interpretation of the bible.Not taking in to account the original Texts, or dialects. Just another man's version of what someone told him.

    May 21, 2012 at 8:19 pm |
    • Jim

      AND, even if you manage to perfectly interpret the new testament, MOST of it is not even there to interpret. About 300 AD the then rulers parred down all the writing to just the four gospels. How do we know they picked the correct ones over the ones that helped them be in control of the church.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:22 pm |
    • Phil

      Jim - you have your history of the books of the Bible completely wrong. You can find many books that describe how books of the Bible got included, information about some (but certainly not all) of the things that were excluded, and even more websites that talk about the same thing. Please don't say stupid things unless you want to appear stupid. BTW, I am not a fundamentalist Christian who believes God spoke in Elizabethan English, I am a Christian who believes it is worthwhile to study things left out of the Bible, including recently discovered texts.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:31 pm |
    • Voodoorick

      Most Bibles these days are filled with the translation details, word specifics, etc. the notes take up more space then the actual Bible text. So don't act as if everyone who has a Bible is an ignoramus who doesn't care about anything but the actual print.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:55 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Jim, the Bible is Jesus' spiritual truth about life and the hereafter. The reason you and so many non-believers have problems with His truth is because you are stuck in carnal mode.

      May 22, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
  3. Houston in TN

    "Pick and Choose"...

    May 21, 2012 at 8:18 pm |
  4. TPN51

    What I don't understand is how people can believe in a book that from its inception has more translations then our tax code, more finger prints then Kim Kardashian and is the best selling book of all time that no one truly understands.

    May 21, 2012 at 8:17 pm |
    • Jim

      you need to read "thee book". I"ll send you a copy and then you will be enlightened.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:19 pm |
    • TPN51

      Jim, I've read THE BOOK, I have a library on theology, it's a hobby. I have 8 different bibles, Desk References, Torahs and so on. My point stands, people do not understand it. all the Bible translations differ, interpretations differ from religion to religion, There will never be a common ground on the Bible due to these facts alone. I gave up religion long time ago, but I still study theology.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:24 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      TP.., reading His truth is a lifetime commitment. Have you applied His truth to your life? If not, there's your answer as you stay in your carnal mindset.

      May 22, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
  5. Puckles

    Observer:

    The Bible does not condone slavery. In fact, it protected slaves. God did not set up the system of slavery – MAN did. Women as inferior? I think not. Jesus taught husbands to love their wives as their own bodies and to cherish them – hardly sounds demeaning to me.

    May 21, 2012 at 8:17 pm |
    • Observer

      Puckles,

      If you are going to support the Bible, at least read it.

      The Bible tells how much you can hurt your slaves without being punished.

      It tells women not to talk in church, but men can.

      Read it sometime.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:20 pm |
    • terry

      I believe the Bible aid that slaves were to obey their masters. That doesn't sound like protection to me. I believe that the Bible says that women are to obey their husbands – a husband who insists that a wife obey him is NOT loving their wives – unless you want to argue that wives are like children.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:21 pm |
    • Jen

      It also says that a wife must submit to her husband. So it's okay that it says I'm not allowed to make any final decisions in my household? That I must do as my husband tells me? And that's okay???????????? You're delusional.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:23 pm |
    • Voodoorick

      One question Jen...if it's an issue neither you nor your husband will compromise on, wo gets the final say?

      May 21, 2012 at 8:51 pm |
    • Jen

      We always compromise, even if we have to walk away for awhile agreeing to disagree. Considering he's Catholic and I'm agnostic we are great at compromising about pretty much anything!

      And there's no way my husband would want the final say anyway. He doesn't want to be married to a robot (ie any woman who allows her husband to lead the household).

      May 21, 2012 at 9:10 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Observer, now you are cherry picking. The Bible is referring to disobedient slaves, not all slaves. What disobedience? Read the subject, contents, righteous and unrighteous outcomes in said scriptures to find what Jesus is teaching.

      May 22, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
  6. Jim

    I'm writing my own holy book. I'll call it Thee Book. That way, I can quote it when trying to win an argument (after all, if "thee book" says its so, then there can be no further discussion). AND, if any questions me, I can smugly say "did you even read "thee book"" (because you are so stupid if you didn't)./

    May 21, 2012 at 8:16 pm |
  7. blessedgeek

    CHRISTIANS practice selective reading of the Bible.
    Christians PRACTICE selective reading of the Bible.
    Christians practice SELECTIVE reading of the Bible.
    Christians practice selective READING of the Bible.
    Christians practice selective reading OF the Bible.
    Christians practice selective reading of THE Bible.
    Christians practice selective reading of the BIBLE.

    I would rather that you be hot or cold rather than lukewarm so I could spew you out.

    May 21, 2012 at 8:15 pm |
    • Voodoorick

      On whatissue? Please elaborate.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:16 pm |
    • Observer

      Voodoorick,

      They remember quotes from the Bible against gays, but ignor the Golden Rule and the FACT that there are FAR MORE Christian adulterers than there are total number of gays.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:18 pm |
    • Voodoorick

      Don't know any Christians that condone adultery. What else you got?

      May 21, 2012 at 8:20 pm |
    • Observer

      Voodoorick,

      "Don't know any Christians that condone adultery. What else you got?"

      Jesus said that anyone who divorces and remarries (unless their spouse already was adulterer) commits adultery.

      All 50 states allow such adultery, but most Christians only care about the ones that might allow gay marriage.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:24 pm |
    • jonborg

      Well, of course you don't V, but one's life says a lot more than their words.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:25 pm |
    • Michael

      @Voodoorick, I think the absence of Christians wanting to legislate the illegality of adultery compared with the same fervor of those wanting to legislate the illegality of g.a.y marriage would indicate a level of condonment.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:26 pm |
    • Voodoorick

      Good point observer. And i'm sure some make that an issue. Gotta pick and choose, I suppose.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:38 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      It has been my observation blessedgeek that Christians are answering non-believers questions who chose the topic.

      May 22, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
  8. terry

    Things change through the ages. In the days of the New Testament, a woman would have been stoned for wearing a dress that revealed her knees.

    May 21, 2012 at 8:14 pm |
  9. Puckles

    Its pretty lame that this article is about h, but I am not allowed to use the "h" word in my comments.

    May 21, 2012 at 8:14 pm |
  10. Puckles

    Fantastic article! Well-written an oh so truthful. A slap in the face to ANYONE who would try to use the Bible to justify deviance!

    May 21, 2012 at 8:13 pm |
    • Observer

      Deviance from slavery? Deviance from treating women as inferior? Deviance from discrimination against the handicapped?

      May 21, 2012 at 8:15 pm |
    • We know the truth...

      Deviance = Thinking for yourself

      Do not use your brain or you will no longer be a Christian...

      May 21, 2012 at 8:16 pm |
    • jonborg

      Here's the sociological definition:
      Deviance – Breaking from the norms of society (and religion).
      Who was one of the greatest deviants? Jesus Christ.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:26 pm |
    • Realist

      You religious zealots make me sad. Another mind wasted.

      May 21, 2012 at 11:44 pm |
  11. n8263

    Christians think Sharia Law is immoral but impose their own Sharia Law here in America.
    No matter what version, it's immoral to impose your religion by denying others civil rights.

    May 21, 2012 at 8:12 pm |
  12. Realist

    Unbelievable tripe. This man is yet another example of how both individuals and groups twist religion to support their own agendas of hate, bigotry and hypocrisy. I'm confident some passage in the old testament combined with some passage in the new testament could be used to support any idiotic notion. Of course, the REAL TRUTH is that religion is a complete myth, sham .. work of fiction.. Thus, at the end of the day, the real winners are those wise enough to think for themselves .. and dispel both religion and its zealots for the contemptuous evil they really are. That's right, religious people... the devil you believe exists is actually you. If you all weren't so damaging to the fabric of humanity, I would revel in that ironic justice.

    May 21, 2012 at 8:08 pm |
    • QS

      Well said, thanks!

      May 21, 2012 at 8:14 pm |
    • Voodoorick

      How do you know the REAL TRUTH?

      May 21, 2012 at 8:19 pm |
    • Sargint Rock

      One second before you suck your last breath, I want you to REMEMBER every foul thing you just posted. It will help focus your mind as you meld into the afterlife and your just recompense! Repent, Receive, Rejoice!

      May 21, 2012 at 8:21 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

      John 8:44

      Amen.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:21 pm |
    • pastapharian

      perfect.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
  13. Phyrro

    It is amazing how Mohler throws out the things in the Old Testament that are even obnoxious to him but does not throw out the 10 Commandments, the Garden of Eden etc. He is cherry picking the Old Testament of it's obnoxious verses and saying those only applied to the Jews. This is racist and bigotry. If you believe in God then don't apply God's words that you don't like as only applying to Jews.

    May 21, 2012 at 8:08 pm |
  14. God is Love

    Okay, I will try to make it simple. Would you let a stranger, someone you don't know move into your house? What makes you think that God will let a stranger move into His house..

    May 21, 2012 at 8:06 pm |
    • Observer

      Thought God knew everybody. This is news to a lot of Christians.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:07 pm |
    • QS

      Better question – why would I want to move into a stranger's house?

      May 21, 2012 at 8:13 pm |
    • We know the truth...

      Well, that makes zero sense... Not surprising, though... How old are you anyway? You have the mentality of a six-year-old.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:13 pm |
    • jonborg

      Because in the Person of Jesus, we see someone who always invites the Stranger, the Foreigner, and the Other. I don't get what your saying. If we take Jesus' stories literally, then you Christians are the ones who won't make it into "God's House."

      May 21, 2012 at 8:28 pm |
  15. Shadowcandy

    We should just stop debating on the issue of Gay marriage all together. There are more pressing issues that we as Americans need to focus on. Such as
    1. Improving the Economy/ MASSIVE debt
    2. Bringing back our Troops
    3. Immigration
    All in all, this country needs a reformation. We need to wipe the slate clean and start fresh.

    May 21, 2012 at 8:05 pm |
    • terry

      To the people who are gay, it is VERY important. What if law suddenly said hetros could not marry? I think THAT would certainly become a BIG important thing, wouldn't it?

      May 21, 2012 at 8:09 pm |
    • Observer

      We are improving the economy that Bush left plummeting nd bringing back the troops that Bush sent to Iraq for false reasons.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:09 pm |
    • QS

      Everything is interrelated and as a country we do ourselves a disservice by continually pushing equal rights issues to the back burner using the excuse that the economy is MORE important....they are equally important.

      Oh, and it's "altogether", not "all together"! 🙂

      May 21, 2012 at 8:12 pm |
  16. SuFiSm iS dIfFeReNt

    Mankinds biggest creation was a god, one that he can blame his lack of humanity on. You not fooling me preacher I know you have fear in your heart. In the bible YOUR god is quoted as saying "I am a jealous god" ...that should have told you this is a false prophet. Why would "a god" be jealous of one of its own creations?

    May 21, 2012 at 8:03 pm |
    • QS

      The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world he doesn't exist.

      I say:

      The greatest trick MAN ever played was convincing the world god DOES exist!

      May 21, 2012 at 8:04 pm |
  17. terry

    Well, ok, Mr. Mohler, you say that the Old Testament rules are not to be followed today and the Old Tesament was meant for a certain group of people at that time, and you say, etc., etc. And just WHO decided that you are the all-knowing mastermind ? Also, from just where do you get these final answers ? I also believe that the NEW TESTAMENT says woman are not to cut their hair and supposed to keep their head covered, keep their mouths shut at church, obey their husbands, etc. I suppose that you think those rules are for a certain group of people too – yes, women would be that certain group, so I guess you are right, yeah ? Some things just don't "add up" – such as incest is a no-no, but the old question then is where did Adam's and Eve's grandchild come from ? (And yes I think incest is wrong before you accuse me of that). I believe that the answer to most, if not all, these types questions is that the Bible was compiled from a bunch of different writings and it is NOT ENTIRELY the word of God, but the Catholic Church decided to say it WAS ENTIRELY God's word. Just for a point, it has also always confused me about why God had to rest on the 7th day ? It was GOD – why did GOD have to rest ? Also, the Old Testament has the instructions of God to kill all adults of a certain group of people, including the children, but not the virgins, but instead marry them. I guess that was a thing just for certain people too ?

    May 21, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
    • goddog

      Jesus never said that the OT laws were invalid, he said the opposite. The only passages that teach that it's ok to not follow the laws are in Acts and the letters from Paul. The thing is, none of it was meant for the Gentiles so all Christians are lost.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:01 pm |
    • Voodoorick

      Read Romans goddog. All about Gentiles.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:49 pm |
    • Phil

      @goddog - if you found the verse where Jesus said what you say he said in one place (you are correct), then you can also find the place where he did say the opposite. Actually, you are perhaps clever enough to find more than one place where Jesus said in effect that the OT laws don't apply in every minute detail. And by using the power of rational logical thinking, you can find even more places where you can infer/deduce that Jesus is saying the same thing. But my guess is that you won't bother looking for what Jesus actually said in quite a number of places, because the truth is different than what you want to believe.

      May 21, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
  18. goddog

    I have not read one passage in the bible, OT or New, that describes a loving, compassionate god. It seems the only rewards he gives are taking away pain and sorrow that he himself made. Do believers think that every man, woman, child and animal that god commanded be killed had it coming? Were they all guilty of something that deserved death?

    May 21, 2012 at 7:56 pm |
    • DB

      Really? You haven't read John 3:16?

      May 21, 2012 at 8:26 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. (1 John 4:8)

      God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him. (1 John 4:16)

      Amen.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:29 pm |
    • DB

      ...and if you had read such passages, would you have believed them?

      May 21, 2012 at 8:29 pm |
    • jonborg

      While I understand your concern, I think that the Gospel accounts demonstrate a loving and social God. The idea that God became flesh and loved the poor, oppressed, and marginalized seems to be the ultimate love to me. Now, the OT and Paul – yeah... you might be right. I think this is why so many people like Jesus, but hate Christians haha.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:30 pm |
    • Angela Birch

      I especially like the story of Job. God kills off his entire family to show how faithful he was. He passes the test and gets a new family. What a loving god. OK now how loving was it for Job's wives and children that were killed to settle a bet that god made. What a guy.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:51 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Angela Birch, the devil destroyed Job as a test to do everything for him to forsake God. No matter what the devil did, Job was still faithful to God. There's several lessons here, first being the devil is the liar that destroys and kills (death). God is truth and life.

      May 22, 2012 at 2:49 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      And yet the devil supposedly went to god and asked permission to mess with him first. If god is all knowing then he wouldn't have needed the test, and allowed completely unnecessary suffering.

      May 22, 2012 at 5:32 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      HawaiiGuest, life is a test from God. He wants to see who loves and follows Jesus (truth), or, who takes the lazy way out and loves and follows satan (lies). God already lost 1/3 of His angels that followed Lucifer's (satan's) lies when they rebelled against Him to overthrow His throne. He destroyed the first earth age, then created ALL (this 2nd earth age we live in now). God allowed us to come back to this earth age ... being born of women, erased our memories of Him (from the foundation of the world when all of us resided with Him) to see what we would do with the free will He gave us.

      Satan made a bet with God that He could get Job to renounce Him. God doesn't intervene with the free will He gave man. That is what the devil does to this day ... entices man with his lies to buckle under and follow him ... all the way to the eternal flames. Satan doesn't want to fry alone. Do you get this concept?

      May 23, 2012 at 12:08 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      HS, if life is a test, you fail. Miserably. You have no friends. No respect. No accomplishments. You can't even convince anyone that Christianity is desirable because you are such a lousy example of it.

      May 23, 2012 at 12:10 am |
  19. God is Love

    Tom Paine – It's not my job to convince anyone – that is the Holy Spirits job and I say no matter how you get saved just get saved. God gave us free will and it is your choice were you will end up. God wants you to choose Him by choice and with faith. So, I do recommend that you choose to believe in His Son Jesus Christ now while you can make the choice because when you die it will be too late.... I will pray for everyone who thinks God is a joke.

    May 21, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
    • Shadowcandy

      Amen!

      May 21, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
    • We know the truth...

      Such a loving, caring god you have, willing to condem anyone who doesn't believe in him to an eternity of hellfire... Some of us are smart enough to realize that's not reality, but merely a way to control weak-minded people... But if it makes you a more law-abiding person, by all means, follow it. We don't need a bunch of Christians running around setting fire to everything with burning crosses.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
    • goddog

      What is a gift that can not be refused? Will you have free will in Heaven?

      May 21, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
    • terry

      Reply to "God is Love" – Well, ok but seems like a threat of eternal hell and a prize of eternal heaven is not really a matter of free choice, is it ? "Believe in me and get rewarded, don't believe in me and get burned." Free choice would be without threats and without rewards, wouldn't it ? ?

      May 21, 2012 at 8:05 pm |
    • QS

      Let's hear it for Pascal's Wager! LOL!

      May 21, 2012 at 8:06 pm |
    • Observer

      “The age of ignorance commenced with the Christian system.”
      – Thomas Paine, “The Age of Reason – Part 1”, 1793

      May 21, 2012 at 8:11 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      We know ...

      Jesus spoke in parables. As He said to His disciples ...

      To you it has been given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God; but to those who are outside, all things come in parables, so that seeing they may see and not perceive, and hearing they may hear and not understand; lest they should turn, and their sins be forgiven them.

      Mark 4:11-12

      Amen.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:33 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @HeavenSent

      So in other words, Jesus was a bigot as well according to you.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:36 pm |
    • Observer

      HeavenSent,

      Isn't it marvelous that you may be one of the few bright enough to understand mumbo jumbo?

      May 21, 2012 at 8:39 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      It's hilarious how HeavenSent will post everywhere but not respond to those challenging her. Shows how well she can defend her position.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:48 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      HawaiiGuest, tune in ... learn God's truth. He's not a bigot, you're the sinner that is not only blinded by your sins, but, enjoys them, hence, believing you don't need to change. Instead of you doing the work to overcome life's sins, you take the lazy way out by pointing your wrath at Jesus and claim untruths about Him.

      As I stated many times on this blog, if you have a problem with Jesus' truth it's because you have issues (due to the sins of the flesh) to resolve in your life. I know you don't want to, or believe your don't need to, but, that's His truth for everyone.

      This is the difference for those that follow Jesus' truth (Christians) and non-believers. Christians work on what His truth tells us and get us through and past our sinful natures. You non-believers care less and blindly continue in your sinful natures then blame others for your carnal issues only you with Jesus' truth, can start to work on ... leaving sinful issues behind. After all, Jesus left His blueprint (the Bible) how we can be the best that He wants us to be while living in human form.

      Amen.

      May 22, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
  20. mandarax

    At most, there are only three pa.ssages in the entire New Testament that refer to what we today would call ho.mos.exual activity.
    None of the four gospels mentions the subject. This means that, so far as we know, Jesus never spoke about h.omos.exuality, and we simply have no way of determining what his att.itude toward it might have been. Moreover, there is nothing about ho.mose.xuality in the Book of Acts, in Hebrews, in Revelation, or in the letters attributed to James, Peter, John, and Jude. Further, ho.mos.exuality is not mentioned in ten of the thirteen letters attributed to Paul. It is only in Romans 1:26–27, 1 Corinthians 6:9–10, and 1 Timothy 1:8–11 that there may be references to ho.mos.exuality. The paucity of references to ho.mos.exuality in the New Testament suggests that it was not a matter of major concern either for Jesus or for the early Christian movement.

    ht tp: / /w ww.westarinst.itute.org/Periodicals/4R_Articles/ho mose xuality.h tml

    May 21, 2012 at 7:52 pm |
    • HappyMadison

      Hard to be certain what anyone said. The oldest bible is the Codex Sinaiticus and it's very different from modern bibles. Also, there is nothing in it about the resurrection of Jesus.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:56 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Try and rip apart Romans 1:18-28.

      Amen.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:38 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Jesus gives you a way out if you read and abide 1 Corinthians 10:13, ask Jesus for forgiveness, ask Him to guide you closer to Him, and of course, sin no more.

      Amen.

      May 21, 2012 at 8:44 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Funny how you can't answer a direct question, HS. All you know how to do is spew chapter and verse.

      Have you ever actually converted anyone?

      Why not?

      Any idea?

      May 21, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Tommie, Tom. It's not my intentions to covert you or anyone. Jesus does this. As a Christian, we only spread His truth.

      May 22, 2012 at 7:16 pm |
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