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My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality
The author writes that it's fine for Christians to take certain biblical condemnations seriously while ignoring others.
May 21st, 2012
10:00 AM ET

My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality

Editor's Note: R. Albert Mohler Jr. is president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, the flagship school of the Southern Baptist Convention and one of the largest seminaries in the world.

By R. Albert Mohler Jr., Special to CNN

Are conservative Christians hypocritical and selective when it comes to the Bible’s condemnation of homosexuality? With all that the Bible condemns, why the focus on gay sex and same-sex marriage?

Given the heated nature of our current debates, it’s a question conservative Christians have learned to expect. “Look,” we are told, “the Bible condemns eating shellfish, wearing mixed fabrics and any number of other things. Why do you ignore those things and insist that the Bible must be obeyed when it comes to sex?”

On its face, it’s a fair question. But it can be posed in two very different ways.

First, the question can be asked to suggest that the Bible’s clear condemnation of sexual sins can simply be set aside. The other way of posing the question represents a genuine attempt to understand how the Bible is to be rightly applied to life today.

In truth, those asking the question the first way really don’t want an answer.

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An honest consideration of the Bible reveals that most of the biblical laws people point to in asking this question, such as laws against eating shellfish or wearing mixed fabrics, are part of the holiness code assigned to Israel in the Old Testament. That code was to set Israel, God’s covenant people, apart from all other nations on everything from morality to diet.

As the Book of Acts makes clear, Christians are not obligated to follow this holiness code. This is made clear in Peter’s vision in Acts 10:15. Peter is told, “What God has made clean, do not call common.”

In other words, there is no kosher code for Christians. Christians are not concerned with eating kosher foods and avoiding all others. That part of the law is no longer binding, and Christians can enjoy shrimp and pork with no injury to conscience.

The Bible’s commands on sexual behavior, on the other hand, are continued in the New Testament. When it comes to homosexuality, the Bible’s teaching is consistent, pervasive, uniform and set within a larger context of law and Gospel.

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The Old Testament clearly condemns male homosexuality along with adultery, bestiality, incest and any sex outside the covenant of marriage. The New Testament does not lessen this concern but amplifies it.

The New Testament condemns both male and female homosexual behavior. The Apostle Paul, for example, points specifically to homosexuality as evidence of human sinfulness. His point is not merely that homosexuals are sinners but that all humanity has sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

The New Testament condemns a full range of sexual sins, and homosexuality is specified among these sins. In Romans, Paul refers to homosexuality in terms of “dishonorable passions,” “contrary to nature” and “shameless.” As New Testament scholar Robert Gagnon has stated, the Bible’s indictment “encompasses every and any form of homosexual behavior.”

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Some people then ask, “What about slavery and polygamy?” In the first place, the New Testament never commands slavery, and it prizes freedom and human dignity. For this reason, the abolitionist movement was largely led by Christians, armed with Christian conviction.

The Old Testament did allow for polygamy, though it normalizes heterosexual monogamy. In the New Testament, Jesus made clear that marriage was always meant to be one man and one woman.

“Have you not read that He who created them made them male and female?” Jesus asked in Matthew. "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.” For this reason, Christians have opposed polygamy on biblical grounds.

Why are Christians so concerned with homosexuality? In the first place, that question is answered by the simple fact that it is the most pressing moral question of our times. Christians must be concerned about adultery, pornography, injustice, dishonesty and everything the Bible names as sin. But when my phone rings with a call from a reporter these days, the question I am asked is never adultery or pornography. It is about homosexuality.

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Christians who are seriously committed to the authority of the Bible have no choice but to affirm all that the Bible teaches, including its condemnation of homosexuality. At the same time, our confidence is that God condemns those things that will bring his human creatures harm and commands those things that will lead to true human happiness and flourishing.

In other words, we understand that the Bible condemns all forms of sin because our Creator knows what is best for us. The Bible names sins specifically so that each of us will recognize our own sinfulness and look to Christ for salvation and the forgiveness of our sins.

Christian love requires that we believe and teach what the Bible teaches and that we do so with both strong conviction and humble hearts. The Church must repent of our failures in both of these tasks, but we must not be silent where the Bible speaks.

Are Christians hypocrites in insisting that homosexual behavior is sin? We, too, are sinners, and hypocrisy and inconsistency are perpetual dangers.

The church failed miserably in the face of the challenge of divorce. This requires an honest admission and strong corrective.

At the same time, this painful failure must remind us that we must not fail to answer rightly when asked what the Bible teaches about homosexuality. Love requires us to tell the truth.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of R. Albert Mohler Jr.

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Filed under: Bible • Christianity • Gay marriage • Opinion

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  1. gstlab3

    gays are gross and go against nature.

    it is a debased subculture and libersal false teachings that havebrought this plauge upon America.

    May 22, 2012 at 1:27 am |
    • Ambient Malice

      That's... somewhat incoherent, but the logic is flawless. @_@

      May 22, 2012 at 1:30 am |
    • Observer

      Bigots are gross and go against intelligence. Fortunately they are diminishing in numbers due to education.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:32 am |
    • Bet

      Ho mo se xu al behavior occurs in nature all the time, in all species.

      May 22, 2012 at 3:04 am |
  2. FC

    Resources on this topic worth considering:
    http://www.wordonfire.org
    Theology of the Body for Beginners – Christopher West
    Man and Woman He Created Them – A Theology of the Body – John Paul II

    May 22, 2012 at 1:26 am |
  3. gstlab3

    If you are gay or lesbian something is wrong with you

    May 22, 2012 at 1:25 am |
    • Observer

      If you are a bigot, something is REALLY wrong with you.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:33 am |
    • Mark From Middle River

      Observer, so many folks come in and post that those that have a deferring view, lifestyles, Faith or Non-Faith, have something wrong with them.

      Are you going to call all of them bigots as well or only those you disagree with?

      May 22, 2012 at 1:51 am |
  4. Skip the Bible

    Actually, the entire bible should be skipped. Christians are NOT exempt from the old testament as jesus explicitly stated so. Christians around the globe twist the interpretation of his words into something exonerating them from having to abide by the rules. By doing so, they prove themselves to be the most hypocritical people on the planet. It's not shocking that christians skip 90% of the bible and only do about 10% of what their primitive myth commands them to do. Most of them are agonizingly lazy people that do the bare minimum amount of work to get by. Everyone would be much better off if this terrible, disgusting collection of books about murder, bashing babies, the command to kill gays, "how to" in slave ownership and permission to rape. Most of all, we could really do without all of these useless christians that continue to push their beliefs down our throats, when they themselves don't even know what their book of lies says to begin with. Their entire faith is hinged on a guy (jesus) that may not have even existed. If he did, then they might want to pay attention to his words that were allegedly quoted in the bible, because according to jesus himself, he was supposed to return 2,000 years ago. This alone is proof that christians have no idea what it is they believe in and do so blindly without ever taking the time to understand their mythological belief system in the first place.

    May 22, 2012 at 1:20 am |
    • Bob

      Great post, Skip.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:22 am |
    • Ambient Malice

      This is otherwise known as sticking your head in the sand to avoid the truth.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:25 am |
    • seebs

      Ahh, so if people don't agree with your interpretation, that means they've never read it or studied it? Hmm. Sounds familiar. FWIW, I've gone over that territory plenty of times, with plenty of people, and concluded that the OT law is irrelevant, and pursuing it buys nothing. I might be wrong, but it's not because I haven't looked at it seriously.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:25 am |
    • n8263

      Jesus made it clear that the Divine Law stands.

      Matthew 5:17:
      “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

      May 22, 2012 at 1:27 am |
    • Mark From Middle River

      Wow... 75 pages of comments and you are the first Atheist that had such original thoughts.

      Geez dude or dudette. ... You need a hug or something?

      May 22, 2012 at 1:27 am |
    • Hello

      Ah...seebs 'ol buddy 'ol pal from Internet Infidels. Problem is you never did know theology any more than skip.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:29 am |
    • Pedalingparson

      At least you live up to your name and Skip logic altogether. You are a glittering jewel of colossal ignorance where the Bible is concerned. As the good book says "Don't answer a fool according to his folly", so I'll leave it at that.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:29 am |
    • Mark From Middle River

      n8.

      John 8 5-9

      5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

      6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.

      7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

      8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.

      9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last.

      The laws can not be carried out unless a Christian is without sin. It is not setting aside or denying the old laws but knowing that we can no longer give out the punishments. Which is why many of us are anti-Death Penalty.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:46 am |
    • n8263

      @Mark, Do you eat pork and wear blended fabrics?

      May 22, 2012 at 1:54 am |
    • Skip the Bible

      Sorry christians, but you need to stop interpreting he bible to begin with. That was your first mistake. But you continue to do it, which has resulted in MANY denominations of christians that all think they're right. You're all wrong, every last one of you.

      People ask me, "But what about the message? The overall message of the bible is good, right?" No. It's not. Jesus told the people of his day he'd return before they died. He also stated that he wasn't here to abolish the old law. You keep thinking he was, when he blatantly stated he wasn't. Talk about twisting the words to meet your lifestyle versus what the bible said. On top of this, jesus was supposed to return 2,000 years ago to drain every last living human being on Earth of blood. Pretty white horse, knee deep in blood. Yeah, what a loving creature you feeble minded christians worship. As far as I'm concerned, you can take him and his pearly white horse and shove them both up your asses.

      May 22, 2012 at 2:10 am |
  5. Brampt

    Booty- if these couple can't reproduce, it's because of a deficiency. Can a child be born out of a men's behind???

    May 22, 2012 at 1:19 am |
    • CAPTAIN CONUNDRUM

      YES.

      THEY ARE CALLED AFRICANS.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:22 am |
    • Observer

      Brampt,

      Hopefully, you've finally figured out that gays and lesbians can reproduce.

      Now, try to explain what relevence that might have to marriage?

      May 22, 2012 at 1:24 am |
    • mema

      My question exactlly. Wouldnt their being gay serve to jepordise mans survival. It doesnt fit religously or in evolution! So what does it mean really?! Not sure!

      May 22, 2012 at 1:28 am |
    • Brampt

      Observer- I don't care if gays get married or not, it's up to them. Im just saying that what they do it's against nature, and unfortunately they will pay in there own flesh from there actions. Our body isnt made naturally to have s** with someone from the same s**.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:32 am |
    • Observer

      Brampt,

      H0mos-xuality exists in nature. The Internet does not exist in nature, but I'd guess you like it.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:35 am |
    • Bet

      Hetero couples also engage in that particular activity. So they shouldn't be allowed to marry either. Too bad your s3x life is so boring you didn't know that.

      May 22, 2012 at 3:08 am |
  6. Helena Hanbaskit

    “The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
    ― Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

    May 22, 2012 at 1:16 am |
    • Ambient Malice

      Richard Dawkins has a much nicer brother: Peter Hitchens. Who happens to be anti-gay, anti-evolution, and a right-wing Christian.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:17 am |
    • Bob

      Great quote, Helena.

      The NT god ain't a whole lot better, especially since he got his book far wrong the first time around and the second is pretty botched too.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement. Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      May 22, 2012 at 1:18 am |
    • Observer

      Ambient Malice,

      Nicer? lol. He's not the brighter of the two.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:20 am |
    • Ambient Malice

      Peter Hitchen's books are less spiteful than Christopher's. I don't think intelligence comes into it either way.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:21 am |
    • Brampt

      And who's is that mortal man to judge the creator of all universe??

      May 22, 2012 at 1:24 am |
    • preacherman

      Ambient – you are confusing Richard Dawkins with Christopher Hitchens. Richard Dawkins is a brilliant biologist, Hitchens was a world-renowned writer. Both are notoriously nice people in person. Peter Hitchens is famous because he has a famous brother. He was alienated from Christopher Hitchens for much of his life due to his right-wing dogma.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:25 am |
    • Observer

      Ambient Malice,

      You can't get any more spiteful than what God does to those who disagree with him.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:26 am |
    • Ambient Malice

      My bad. I was distracted by this bag of gummy bears I was eating. And no, P. Hitchens happens to be kinda famous. So he's not an outcast or anything.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:28 am |
  7. Ambient Malice

    Notice how nobody's talking about the article anymore, and instead hurling insults? Still it's better that Huffington Post, which censors anti-gay comments.

    May 22, 2012 at 1:13 am |
    • Derail

      I feel a derail a-comin'

      May 22, 2012 at 1:19 am |
  8. Southern Baptists supported slavery

    I'm so sick of this book written by Bronze Age idiots having ANY influence on our nation.

    May 22, 2012 at 1:10 am |
    • Ambient Malice

      You're forgetting it was adherents of that bronze age book who ended the slave trade.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:14 am |
    • Bob

      Malice, your sicko religion supported the slave trade. Well, it did if you read your myth book the way that many do, which is another of the many horrors and problems of Christianity.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement. Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      May 22, 2012 at 1:16 am |
    • Ambient Malice

      Without my religion, slavery would have still existed, and would never have ended because CHRISTIANS wouldn't have moved to abolish it. So there.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:18 am |
    • CAPTAIN CONUNDRUM

      IF YOU WANT TO BE A SLAVE OWNER JUST READ THE BIBLE BECAUSE IT SAYS IT'S OK TO OWN THEM.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:28 am |
    • Citezendave1

      Bob I feel sorry for you http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ this site is completely assembled from statistical fiction. The author of the site is in fact, (I am not kidding here) A self professed Satanist. His bio is so full of profanities I can’t even post it here, but basically it says that he can do what ever he wants because the whole world was created for his personal pleasure. He made the site because well he hates Christians, so he will say and do anything he can to twist peoples minds around his axel. If you are going to attack anyone’s religious beliefs as is your right to do so, please get your information from a legitimate site that has actual facts.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:40 am |
  9. Peter B.

    Shame on you R. Albert Mohler Jr.,
    because there you are, bending and twisting the bible as you see fit. All in the effort to squeeze it into the narrow vision you have of the world. Now I'm not a bible scholar, but you don't have to be to call R. Albert Mohler's pitiful attempt to blind with some random quotes from the 'good' book. He cherry-picks some quote from the Book of Acts how Christians don't have to follow a certain holiness code (he even has to explain it because it doesn't make all that much sense in this context). Somebody should have told Jesus: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." (Matthew 5:17-18); sounds to me like he likes the Old Testament just the way it was, so you better be careful with eating Shellfish, and while you're at it, kill the guy who dares work on the Sabbath... Come on now. Either the book is right or it's not. You can't just pick what you like and leave out the rest. Well, maybe we should. Leave it all out. Let people be who they want to be. With who they want to be. The only rule? Nobody gets hurt. Just a thought...

    May 22, 2012 at 1:10 am |
    • Ambient Malice

      It doesn't work that way: we Christians get our entire moral code from the Bible. Including the bit where we don't murder others.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:11 am |
    • Wha

      I think the problem is that you're not a Bible scholar, as you said. Mohler's just following two thousand years of Christian theology.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:15 am |
    • Bob

      Malice, speaking of instructions from your Christian book of nasty AKA the bible, take a look at some of the demands your sky fairy is said to make in there. Horrid stuff like this:

      Numbers 31:17-18
      17 Now kiII all the boys. And kiII every woman who has slept with a man,
      18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

      Deuteronomy 13:6 – “If your brother, your mother’s son or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul entice you secretly, saying, let us go and serve other gods … you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death”

      Note that the bible is also very clear that you should sacrifice and burn an animal today because the smell makes sicko Christian sky fairy happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.

      Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.

      And then, if you disagree with my interpretation, ask yourself how it is that your "god" couldn't come up with a better way to communicate than a book that is so readily subject to so many interpretations and to being taken "out of context", and has so many mistakes in it. Pretty pathetic god that you've made for yourself.

      So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.

      Please, stop referencing that Christian book of nasty, AKA the bible, as a guide to, well, anything.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement. Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      May 22, 2012 at 1:21 am |
    • Citezendave1

      Gee Bob you are on an anger role. Let’s put this into perspective not only Christian “plantation owners” but also atheists and a great number of other non Christian religious individuals supported the slave trade.

      Speaking of people being killed in the bible, hmm well how about the hundreds of thousands of Native Americans who were wiped out by both Christian and non Christian settlers and US soldiers in this country.

      How about the one million plus civilians who were killed by the US military during the Vietnam conflict.

      How about the hundred thousand plus dead Iraqi women and children killed by the US military.

      Should I go on?

      Is it not common practice for human beings to forget the good stuff and only focus on the bad?

      What will people think of this country three thousand years from now when they read about all of this and the hundreds of other terrifying statistics I have not mentioned?

      Rampant drug addiction, overflowing prisons, hate and violence on the streets, out of control government corruption a pacifist population that sits idly by as their rights vanish into the mist. Because they have nothing better to do than argue over meaningless gibberish

      Will the Bible really look all that bad when compared to the good old USA? Therefore if you can find no good in the Bible you can certainly find no good with the country either.

      May 22, 2012 at 2:02 am |
  10. Peter the Rock of the Church

    Hey I have an idea – let us keep the make believe gods out of our lives and live in the real world.

    May 22, 2012 at 1:07 am |
    • Yep

      And since the Christian God is not a make-believe God, all others go. Them's the rules, right? Sounds great to me.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:09 am |
    • Peteyroo

      Peter, you rock!

      May 22, 2012 at 1:11 am |
    • Peteyroo

      Yep, the answer is nope.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:11 am |
    • Bob

      Yep, all believers say what you said about their particular tooth fairy. Why should we think your particular myth is correct, among the gazillions of such myths? And note before you answer that the Jesus sacrifice gambit is just another instance of the old scapegoat stories, of which there are also many that pre-date your own particular myth.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement. Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      May 22, 2012 at 1:14 am |
  11. Peteyroo

    Heaven must be a dreary place. All the interesting people are in hell. The rules for heaven seem so oppressive. How are all the hypocrites going to get in? I have a vested interest in getting these droolers in to prevent them from ruining hell for the rest of us.

    May 22, 2012 at 1:05 am |
    • Roo

      I dunno. I'm pretty interesting. Look me up and we'll party on the clouds...electric harps included.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:08 am |
    • Peteyroo

      I said droolers. I meant bed wetters.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:08 am |
  12. n8263

    According to Jesus, the Divine Laws must still be followed. What should take precedence? Peter's dream in Acts Rev Mohler references, or Christ's actual words?

    Matthew 5:17:
    “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."

    To this day under Christian Law you are not to eat pork and shrimp, wear blended fabric, and must murder your disobedient children, non-virgin brides and adulterers. If you can rationalize rejecting what Jesus clearly taught then you can rationalize rejecting any part of the Bible no longer compatible with civil society.

    Of course none of this matters since we have a separation of church and state and Americans would never impose their religion on others.

    May 22, 2012 at 1:04 am |
    • seebs

      Ahh, until everything is accomplished you say? You mean until Good Friday, somewhere around 3PM? That is what "It is accomplished" means. That was the point at which it was done. Seriously, you are not the first person to ask about that. This is one of those things which has been a FAQ for nearly 2000 years. 🙂

      May 22, 2012 at 1:28 am |
  13. Fake chrisitans

    I believe in god, but I don't believe American christians.
    They are gullible and hateful, the lowest of the lowest bottom feeders.

    May 22, 2012 at 12:58 am |
  14. n8263

    Ok ok, I take it back. Do I feel better now?

    May 22, 2012 at 12:58 am |
  15. HalPri

    In the 1990's Mr. Mohler's denomination issued an official apology for supporting slavery and segregation. In a hundred years, they will be apologizing for their cruelty and bigotry towards gay people, and editorials like this one will be preserved in books of preposterous opinions from people who should have known better.

    May 22, 2012 at 12:52 am |
    • Bootyfunk

      xactly. conservatives are always on the wrong side of history.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:53 am |
    • Ambient Malice

      The next person to say "Wrong side of history" will be afflicted with genital crabs.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:56 am |
    • Dorothy

      Amen!

      May 22, 2012 at 12:56 am |
    • Peteyroo

      Right you are!

      May 22, 2012 at 12:57 am |
    • Bill C.

      Mmmm.... I love crabs.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:57 am |
    • Dorothy

      Okay.....then, those who support gay rights will fall on the "right side of history" like their predecessors who fought against slavery, discriminations against blacks, and discrimination against women. Is that better, Malice?

      May 22, 2012 at 12:58 am |
    • Ambient Malice

      The Nazis were almost on the right side of history. The expression is meaningless. You're living in a fantasy if you imagine USA is heading towards a utopia where everyone gets along. Civil war is coming... I'm not even American, okay? Your country is going to tear in two.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:01 am |
    • WAR

      Children, it's just a shot away.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:03 am |
    • Dorothy

      At least it will "tear in two" loving tenderly, acting justly, and walking humbly with it God.........all the way to civil rights for everyone: blacks, women, gays, and all other of God's children.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:04 am |
    • Ambient Malice

      Uh... No, because +50% of the population will be dead, and you'll have probably used nukes on yourself.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:05 am |
    • Ambient Malice

      But take heart: since African Americans are anti-gay, they'll be on the winning side. @_@ Is that nice or what?

      May 22, 2012 at 1:10 am |
    • Uh, huh

      Civil rights for everyone...polygamists, pedaphiliacs, zoophiliacs, and lovers of all stripes. Heck, throw in some murders since they've a genetic predisposition to violence...it's alright...nature made 'em do it.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:11 am |
    • Observer

      "since African Americans are anti-gay"'

      Yep, like the NAACP. Oh! Nevermind.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:13 am |
    • Ambient Malice

      The NAACP don't speak for the wider black community.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:16 am |
    • Well I be

      AM, you puttin' down fat people now?!

      May 22, 2012 at 1:21 am |
    • Ambient Malice

      LOL @_@

      May 22, 2012 at 1:32 am |
  16. Peteyroo

    What makes you think I want to be in heaven? I don't. Spending eternity with you sniveling zealots doesn't appeal to me at all. I'd rather spend eternity with classier people and a few scoundrels like myself. We're so much more interesting and fun to be with.

    May 22, 2012 at 12:51 am |
    • Ambient Malice

      You're clearly underestimating how unpleasant hell is. No sane person wants to spend eternity suffering, knowing that they themselves are wholly responsible for their plight.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:52 am |
    • Bootyfunk

      sitting on a cloud kissing the god-tyrants @ss all day sounds worse than hell.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:53 am |
    • Dorothy

      Malice – The people most likely to suffer in hell are the bigots. You, like your predecessors who condemned interracial marriage, the suffragette movement, and desegregation (all in the name of the Bible) are like vomit in the mouth of God.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:55 am |
    • Peteyroo

      Ambient Malady, I don't care what hell is like (mainly because it doesn't exist). I prefer the company of good and decent folks like myself. I can't imagine spending eternity with nthe likes of you.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:55 am |
    • Observer

      Ambient Malice,

      So why are Christians so concerned about gays when there are FAR MORE of themselves who are adulterers?

      May 22, 2012 at 12:56 am |
    • Ambient Malice

      ...Um... Nope.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:57 am |
    • Ambient Malice

      You know... I'm quite charming once you get to know me.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:59 am |
    • Observer

      Ambient Malice,

      Sorry you missed the question. Here it is:

      Why are Christians so concerned about gays when there are FAR MORE of themselves who are adulterers?

      May 22, 2012 at 1:00 am |
    • Ambient Malice

      Calling us hypocrites is a waste of time. Hypocrites exist everywhere.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:07 am |
    • Observer

      Ambient Malice,

      "Calling us hypocrites is a waste of time. Hypocrites exist everywhere."

      Yes they do, but it takes a special kind of hypocrite to claim that they are better than others when lying about what they actually do.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:11 am |
    • Ambient Malice

      It takes a special kind of ignorance to not understand that all saints are sinners.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:19 am |
    • Observer

      Ambient Malice,

      If all saints are sinners, it takes a special kind of ignorance to pick on ANY sinners.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:38 am |
    • Bet

      "You're clearly underestimating how unpleasant hell is. No sane person wants to spend eternity suffering, knowing that they themselves are wholly responsible for their plight."

      And you have some personal experience that qualifies you to tell us what hell is like? Oh right, you live with yourself. Never mind.

      Hell doesn't exist. Neither does god, satan, or santa claus.

      May 22, 2012 at 3:14 am |
  17. n8263

    Christians think Sharia Law is immoral but impose their own Sharia Law here in America.
    No matter what version, it's immoral to impose your religion by denying others civil rights.

    May 22, 2012 at 12:49 am |
    • n8263

      Oops... Sorry, I forgot I just posted that on the last page. Ignore me please.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:24 am |
  18. Guess no one read

    Guess no one read the part where it says....women burned in lust for one another in the same way men burned in passion for men, and god gave them over to there debased lusts, and therefore they recieved in themselves the penalty for there perversion.

    May 22, 2012 at 12:49 am |
    • Bootyfunk

      stop, you're turning me on.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:51 am |
  19. Dorothy

    So everybody is convinced that their interpretation of the Bible is the "right" interpretation.......I guess that is why there are Catholics, Episcopalians, Baptists, Lutherans, Presbyterians, Evangelicals......and the lists go on. There are so many interpretations of the Bible it could make your head spin. Many Biblical Scholars interpret the Bible to say that there is no condemnation of ho mo se x uality in the New Testament. Many Christian congregations have embraced that as well. Common Sense should tell people that God could probably care less what you do with your tally wacker so long as you are good, loving and generous individuals.......and many gays are the personification of these wonderful values.

    May 22, 2012 at 12:48 am |
    • Ambient Malice

      God doesn't actually care how nice you are. You don't get into heaven for being nice. That said, He does act kindly towards kind people. However, this doesn't change the fact He hates anything which perverts his original plan for humanity.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:51 am |
    • Bootyfunk

      god is a mass murderer and baby-killer - what would that turd know about "right"?

      May 22, 2012 at 12:52 am |
    • Dorothy

      The only thing that perverts his original plan for humanity is prejudice and bigots. You are just like the pharisees of old that Jesus condemned.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:53 am |
    • Bet

      Your god commits genocide whenever the whim strikes him.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:54 am |
    • Observer

      Ambient Malice,

      So God hates anything that perverts his plans for slavery and making women inferior and discriminating against the handicapped. Nice guy.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:58 am |
    • Wicked Witch

      I'll get you Dorothy! And your little dog Toto, too!

      May 22, 2012 at 12:58 am |
    • Dorothy

      Ohhhh.....but I so much like my little dog......he's a pit-bull mix.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:00 am |
    • seebs

      Ayup. I will totally entertain the notion that I should care what people do with their wee-wees and other consenting adults someday when no one is hungry or abused. In the mean time... priorities, people!

      May 22, 2012 at 1:30 am |
  20. justinstl

    you are god! why would you think differently to do so would be to live in fear

    May 22, 2012 at 12:48 am |
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