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My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality
The author writes that it's fine for Christians to take certain biblical condemnations seriously while ignoring others.
May 21st, 2012
10:00 AM ET

My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality

Editor's Note: R. Albert Mohler Jr. is president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, the flagship school of the Southern Baptist Convention and one of the largest seminaries in the world.

By R. Albert Mohler Jr., Special to CNN

Are conservative Christians hypocritical and selective when it comes to the Bible’s condemnation of homosexuality? With all that the Bible condemns, why the focus on gay sex and same-sex marriage?

Given the heated nature of our current debates, it’s a question conservative Christians have learned to expect. “Look,” we are told, “the Bible condemns eating shellfish, wearing mixed fabrics and any number of other things. Why do you ignore those things and insist that the Bible must be obeyed when it comes to sex?”

On its face, it’s a fair question. But it can be posed in two very different ways.

First, the question can be asked to suggest that the Bible’s clear condemnation of sexual sins can simply be set aside. The other way of posing the question represents a genuine attempt to understand how the Bible is to be rightly applied to life today.

In truth, those asking the question the first way really don’t want an answer.

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An honest consideration of the Bible reveals that most of the biblical laws people point to in asking this question, such as laws against eating shellfish or wearing mixed fabrics, are part of the holiness code assigned to Israel in the Old Testament. That code was to set Israel, God’s covenant people, apart from all other nations on everything from morality to diet.

As the Book of Acts makes clear, Christians are not obligated to follow this holiness code. This is made clear in Peter’s vision in Acts 10:15. Peter is told, “What God has made clean, do not call common.”

In other words, there is no kosher code for Christians. Christians are not concerned with eating kosher foods and avoiding all others. That part of the law is no longer binding, and Christians can enjoy shrimp and pork with no injury to conscience.

The Bible’s commands on sexual behavior, on the other hand, are continued in the New Testament. When it comes to homosexuality, the Bible’s teaching is consistent, pervasive, uniform and set within a larger context of law and Gospel.

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The Old Testament clearly condemns male homosexuality along with adultery, bestiality, incest and any sex outside the covenant of marriage. The New Testament does not lessen this concern but amplifies it.

The New Testament condemns both male and female homosexual behavior. The Apostle Paul, for example, points specifically to homosexuality as evidence of human sinfulness. His point is not merely that homosexuals are sinners but that all humanity has sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

The New Testament condemns a full range of sexual sins, and homosexuality is specified among these sins. In Romans, Paul refers to homosexuality in terms of “dishonorable passions,” “contrary to nature” and “shameless.” As New Testament scholar Robert Gagnon has stated, the Bible’s indictment “encompasses every and any form of homosexual behavior.”

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Some people then ask, “What about slavery and polygamy?” In the first place, the New Testament never commands slavery, and it prizes freedom and human dignity. For this reason, the abolitionist movement was largely led by Christians, armed with Christian conviction.

The Old Testament did allow for polygamy, though it normalizes heterosexual monogamy. In the New Testament, Jesus made clear that marriage was always meant to be one man and one woman.

“Have you not read that He who created them made them male and female?” Jesus asked in Matthew. "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.” For this reason, Christians have opposed polygamy on biblical grounds.

Why are Christians so concerned with homosexuality? In the first place, that question is answered by the simple fact that it is the most pressing moral question of our times. Christians must be concerned about adultery, pornography, injustice, dishonesty and everything the Bible names as sin. But when my phone rings with a call from a reporter these days, the question I am asked is never adultery or pornography. It is about homosexuality.

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Christians who are seriously committed to the authority of the Bible have no choice but to affirm all that the Bible teaches, including its condemnation of homosexuality. At the same time, our confidence is that God condemns those things that will bring his human creatures harm and commands those things that will lead to true human happiness and flourishing.

In other words, we understand that the Bible condemns all forms of sin because our Creator knows what is best for us. The Bible names sins specifically so that each of us will recognize our own sinfulness and look to Christ for salvation and the forgiveness of our sins.

Christian love requires that we believe and teach what the Bible teaches and that we do so with both strong conviction and humble hearts. The Church must repent of our failures in both of these tasks, but we must not be silent where the Bible speaks.

Are Christians hypocrites in insisting that homosexual behavior is sin? We, too, are sinners, and hypocrisy and inconsistency are perpetual dangers.

The church failed miserably in the face of the challenge of divorce. This requires an honest admission and strong corrective.

At the same time, this painful failure must remind us that we must not fail to answer rightly when asked what the Bible teaches about homosexuality. Love requires us to tell the truth.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of R. Albert Mohler Jr.

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Filed under: Bible • Christianity • Gay marriage • Opinion

soundoff (7,995 Responses)
  1. brotherjukebox2012

    right on preacher and put the illegal mexicans in there beside them

    May 22, 2012 at 12:28 pm |
  2. No Agenda Here

    Wow, CNN is really pushing the gay agenda. How many days has something about gays been on the front page? What ever happened to balanced?

    May 22, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
    • Michael

      Yeah, the whole gay marriage issue isn't a big new story at all, doesn't mean squat to anyone. Youtube most definitely did not see an increase of over 400% in traffic when Obama announced his support for gay marriage.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:24 pm |
    • spocksbrain

      Why not go back to fixed news - always fair and balanced (in a predetermined way).

      May 22, 2012 at 12:25 pm |
    • No Agenda Here

      Yup and we have to get the first gay president (according to Newsweek) re-elected don't we? I remember when CNN covered real news....

      May 22, 2012 at 12:27 pm |
    • jungleboo

      Click on something else, Dorothy.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:31 pm |
    • Bet

      Did you bother to read the article? It supports your bigoted view.

      May 22, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
  3. pattymc

    just look at the ridiculous line shown from the bible, woman was taken out of man? proved wrong more than thirty years ago, but people still believe anything the bible says. it was written by man(obviously not by women), grow up. trust what science can prove and come up with your own ideas for the rest. don't limit your mind by believing explanations for life from thousands of years ago.

    May 22, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
  4. DEC

    Why hasn't this article which is an honest and actually Biblically sound assessment of the gay marriage issue, a headline on CNN. There's been a lot of headline articles in recent days that misrepresent and actually mock Christianity. This article is really intelligent response to this problem that we're facing.

    May 22, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
    • YeahRight

      "This article is really intelligent response to this problem that we're facing."

      No it's not it's just another case of fueling the hatred and bigotry towards this minority group while ignoring all the research from the experts. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Counseling Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American School Counselor Association, the National Association of School Psychologists, and the National Association of SocialWorkers, together representing more than 480,000 mental health professionals, have all taken the position that homosexuality is not a mental disorder and thus is not something that needs to or can be “cured."

      May 22, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
    • Michael

      Because it is NOT a sound argument via the Bible on gay marriage. He quotes Romans and acts as of if it's a real condemnation of gay people when he totally ignores it's condemning idolatry and has NOTHING to do with orientation.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:25 pm |
  5. happyfrenchman

    This guy lost me when he said "an honest consideration of the Bible". This is akin to being an expert on Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. There is no difference except when you figure out the Santa is B.S. they let it drop, but with Jesus, they keep on telling you "Yeah, it is real". No difference. And we have to show them respect why? So they can continue the lie with their children... no thank you.

    May 22, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
    • Realist

      Hear hear!

      Eloquence and theological intellect aside, the author is defending fairy tales for grownups.

      The rest of us aren't obligated to respect that or take it seriously, especially in an age of information, science, and reason.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:38 pm |
  6. Eduardo Romeros

    I am totally against gay marriage- traditional marriage between a man and a woman should be strengthened, not dimished( we have too many divorces already and gay divorces will follow). I would feel terrible to see a man and a man, married, and kissing and showing intimacy in front of my daugher- should be sufficient to have gays have all of the rights and protected that way, but I do not see the right to marry as a right. Life-time democrat and money contributor who will absolutely NOT vote for Obama, when I campaigned for him last time

    May 22, 2012 at 12:12 pm |
    • Rocky

      "The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today is Christians who acknowledge Jesus with their lips and walk out the door and deny Him by their lifestyle,"

      May 22, 2012 at 12:15 pm |
    • fofo

      May be you should take out your daughter's eye instead.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
    • YeahRight

      "but I do not see the right to marry as a right"

      Being gay is not a choice, it's not a mental illness and it can't be voluntarily changed. They deserve to have the same civil rights as straights. Recognized federal civil rights law in the United States is grounded in the U.S. Constitution as interpreted by the Supreme Court. By this standard, marriage has long been established as a civil right.

      The operative constitutional text is section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment, which was ratified in 1868. The relevant passages read as follows:

      No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
    • Observer

      Eduardo,

      Why aren't you trying to get laws in all 50 states changed so that people can't get divorced and remarried, thereby committing adultery according to the Bible?

      Why do you care about a small "problem" of gays when there are FAR FAR MORE Christian ADULTERERS?

      May 22, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
    • Michael

      So you're going to vote for a party that hates immigrants? You're Mexican, right? So you're going to go for a party that would love to kick your kind of of this country unless, of course, you can do the lawn for cheap.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
    • KJM1968

      Work on getting divorce made illegal in this country.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
    • Jacques Strappe, World Famous French Ball Juggler

      There are instances in the Bible of men kissing other men. Even Paul!

      May 22, 2012 at 12:43 pm |
    • Lenny Pincus

      They used this POV as a reason against inter-racial marriage. Congratulations.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:00 pm |
    • sam stone

      It is about equal rights, Eduardo. If it makes you feel all queasy, too bad

      May 22, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • Primewonk

      According to SCOTUS, marriage is a fundamental civil right. This means your opinion is wrong, and the rest of your post is moot.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
  7. the voice of reason

    Religion is STILL a form of mental illness.

    May 22, 2012 at 12:12 pm |
  8. Lenny Pincus

    Complaining about cutting and pasting is strange from people who cut and paste the Bible–and add "context when necessary"–as a matter of course. St. Paul tells slave to sit down and shut up, and we're supposed to believe this is God's thoughts on slavery? BTW, Pascal's wager forgets a third way: a path to righteousness based not on rule following but on self-discovery will have its own reward. God is a lot deeper than the angry guy portrayed in the Bible.

    May 22, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
    • Michael

      You can tell religion is a fraud when an Atheist is more likely to be Christ-like than a Fundamentalist. Those who proclaim their faith the loudest tend to be the most judgmental ones around. Atheists, on the other hand, usually show compassion for their fellow man.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:06 pm |
    • Blake

      We should accept all people into church regardless of their sin. That is where they need to be in order to learn and change. It is not my place to judge anyone but it is also my responsibilty as a Christian to voice my concern and not just accept everything as being ok. Gay marriage is wrong in every way (Morally and biblically).

      May 22, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
    • Jack

      I'm trying to reply to Michael.

      Michael, what is your definition of "Christ-like"?

      As far as atheists being kinder towards others, Hiter was an atheist. What kindness did he show to Jews?

      Stalin was an atheist. What kindness did he show to the 24 million Ukrainians who starved to death when he confiscated their food?

      May 22, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
    • Miles

      Jack, in the history business, that is what we call a lie. Hitler was many things, but he was neither a christian or an atheist. Kindly consult any of the leading historians (Kershaw for example) before you try to justify Christian hatred.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
    • Michael

      Jack, we live in the Age of Google and you might want to realize this if you're going to spout out lies. Hitler was a devout Christian just like the KKK is a devout Christian organization.

      Blake, Christ told us not to judge one another so you're going 100% against His teachings when you condemn another. Wait, hold on. Oh, you must be without sin then have at it!

      May 22, 2012 at 12:28 pm |
    • xyx25

      lol, you ar cutting and pasting and picking and chosing. If you read the whole passage, it tells you he gave command to masters to be kind to their servants.
      Colossians 3
      18Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
      19Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.
      20Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.
      21Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged.
      22Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God;
      23And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;

      Colossians 4
      1Masters, give unto your servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a Master in heaven.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
    • Michael

      Miles, Hitler promoted "positive Christianity" which meant to purge the Jews. History is going to view homphobes in the same exact light as it does Hitler, people who sole purpose for God is to justify their hate and bigotry.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
    • Lenny Pincus

      No, the line says for slaves to shut up and do what they are told. The following line tells the owners to be just, even though owning a human being can hardly be just. The following line adds no context to the preceding line.

      These types of references were used in churches in America to legitimize slavery with the same sort of "contextualizing".

      May 22, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
    • sam stone

      Blake: You have no authority to comment on morality

      May 22, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
  9. fintastic

    Lets re-name the bible "The Book Of Pick-And-Choose"

    May 22, 2012 at 12:04 pm |
    • Michael

      A lot of people refer to it as "Cafeteria Christianity" because so-called Christians think they get to walk down the aisle and choose which portions they're going to put on their plates.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
  10. lifesabeachobx

    Everyone has an opinion in life......and opinions are like AH.....some are just bigger than others.

    May 22, 2012 at 12:03 pm |
    • Jonah

      LOL! Awesome!

      May 22, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
  11. Scott

    Albert Mohler. “As the Book of Acts makes clear, Christians are not obligated to follow this holiness code”

    You are going to burn in hell if you do not change your sinful ways. You can take your book of acts and shove it because Jesus said to follow the law of the old testament ALL OF IT.

    He also said the most difficult path is the one that leads to heaven. Pretending that you are no longer bound by the law of the Old Testament is the easy path to hell

    “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven."Matthew 5:17-19

    "Heaven and earth will disappear before the smallest letter of the Law does." Luke 16:17 (CEV)

    What part of “UNTIL HEAVEN AND EARTH DISAPPEAR” don’t you understand? That doesn’t mean just until the resurrection.

    May 22, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
    • Observer

      Scott,

      So do you follow all of the Old Testament? How many people have you killed for working on the Sabbath? I haven't read about any major league baseball or professional football players being killed for working then.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:03 pm |
    • Stephen

      Scott, the Law in the Old Testament is given to the Jewish people. No Gentile is beholden to the Law, it exists exclusively as the Covenant between the Jewish people and God.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
    • Observer

      Stephen,

      Any idea why God saved his wackiest commands to kill people for Jewish people?

      Any idea why Christians should care at all about the Ten Commandments from the Old Testament?

      May 22, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
    • xyx25

      There are Ceremonial laws and moral laws. Definition of a Ceremonial law is that is pointing to the atoning work of Christ and fulfilled in Christ. Moral laws stand forever. Not that everyone can keep every moral law but God's requirement is we do keep them. Everyone has and will fall short but that doesn't make Bible nor God false. Falling short makes us a sinner and need a Saviour Christ to strengthen them to follow the commandments, NOT to strike them off. If you confess your sins, he will forgive your sins and cleanse you from all sin. But if you cover up your sin... you decide your fate.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
    • Michael

      xyxwhatever, the Leviticus scripture which condemns gays is part of the ceremonial laws and NOT part of the morality code.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
  12. RationalN

    Mohler is right on with his assessment, but there is a problem here: why do so many evangelical Christians focus on the issue of the sin of being gay, but at the same time have no problem with mutilating the body surgically so that they can only have 1-2 children? I could point to quite a few passages OT and NT that would condemn mutilating the flesh, sacrificing children to false gods (e.g. self) and the blessing of children. I'd like to see more focus on this from Mohler, and less gay dialog.

    BTW – what's with all the athie haters cut-n-pasting their venom here? Do they really think that's going to work to recruit people to their pov?

    May 22, 2012 at 11:50 am |
    • Michael

      He's not actually right on his assessment at all. Romans is clearly about idolatry and has nothing to do with orientation. Anyone who wants to know the actual truth can spend five minutes Googling what the original text of the Bible stated, or did not state, about being gay. However, it's a true sign when someone doesn't care about the actual truth. The Bible has been used to justify bigotry against women and blacks and it's being used as the same tool today against gay people.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
    • think for yourself

      What is wrong with "only" having 1 or 2 children? There are too many people on this planet already.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
    • WarhammerTwo

      Exactly, Michael, going back to the original Greek text regarding these Scriptural passages, you'll find that every act that is condemend is in the context of hateful, degrading, subservient, exploitive, lustful se. xual realtions which seek to satiate base, carnal desires. There is absolutely NO mention whatsoever about caring, loving, monoganous ho. mose. xual relationships.

      Since I cannot find any passages in the original Greek that condemned NOR condoned LOVING ho. mose. xual relationships, I don't think any of us can speculate on the Bible's actual stance one way or another. If you do, you put yourself above God and presume to know what only God can know. And that, my friends, is dangerous water to tread.

      Personally, I view such relationships based on their own merit, each in their own unique context, as I think we should view any relationship, ga. y or straight, and probably just leave the ambiguity of the Bible out of such discussions.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
    • xyx25

      Here it is interpreted in all languages:
      http://scripturetext.com/romans/1-27.htm

      May 22, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
  13. Logic

    Comment for all who oppose Biblical Christianity: If we’re wrong we lose nothing, if you’re wrong you lose everything.

    May 22, 2012 at 11:43 am |
    • mandarax

      Pascal's wager...yawn. You're logic fails, if you're wrong and other religions are right you go straight to heII. Do you lose sleep over not following Mohammed? If not, you're not following your own "logic."

      May 22, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • reddawn

      Except your humanity and diginty.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:49 am |
    • RationalN

      athies hate Pascal's wager b/c they can't excape the logic of it, so they instead resort to mockery. Every time.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:52 am |
    • Kevin

      RationN, Christians like myself HATE Pascal's wager because it belittles and cheapens our faith when people like you throw it in the face of non-believers.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:55 am |
    • Observer

      Logic,

      If you are wrong you have maliciously trashed people for false reasons and made their lives worse.

      Get serious.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:57 am |
    • Megan

      Not everyone who says Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven...

      May 22, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • think for yourself

      Your "logic" assumes that there are only 2 choices: Atheism or Christianity. You are not accounting for the possibility of one of the thousands of other religions being the correct one. Since all religions have the same amount of proof (zero), your (lack of) logic fails completely.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
    • Deejay

      That is nonsense! You guys have find a way to use logic to scare people some more. Why worry about heaven when we are still yet to make the earth we live a more livable and harmonious place?

      May 22, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
    • Peter

      Actually, if you are wrong, you lose all the fun you would have had not walking the straight and narrow.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
    • Jacques Strappe, World Famous French Ball Juggler

      How do you know you picked the right religion? You know, all the Muslim's are positive they have the right religion too. What if you were born in China or India? There wouldn't be much chance of you being a Christian, would there?

      May 22, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
    • sam stone

      Logic: Pretty ironic screen name. If you are wrong, and there is a god other than what you believe in, you could be as screwed as you claim that those who do not believe as you do would be.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
    • Logic

      Wow, close to 6,000 comments on Al’s article! It’s great to see so many people voicing their opinions on this issue. It is very interesting to see all the opinions and all the hating on both sides of this argument. In response to those who disagree with my statement, I’m confident in my position, as the Bible and Christianity can handle all the unbelievers’ questions. The question is, are they sincerely looking for answers or are they simply trying to justify their own beliefs by coming up with some misinformed narrative that dismisses the Bible and justifies their belief system. For those sincerely looking for evidence for God’s existence and evidence that the Bible is the Word of God visit http://www.ucmaltavista.com

      The logic of Christianity is found in the life of Jesus (as historically accurate as any one history has written about). The Bible clearly says that Jesus is the only way to the Father, therefore if this is true, then everything else that is contrarily to this is false. That’s not bigotry or hateful it’s called faith. Don’t lose your mind, keep reading.

      John 14:6
      "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

      Acts 4:12
      12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."

      Anyone who has a problem with that has a problem with God, not the Christian that believes what God says. For we are simply holding to His Word. Unfortunately, many use the Bible for an excuse to hate people and not the sin. But, the Bible clearly teaches us to love everyone, but not the sin. It was for sin that Jesus died and it is God who will judge the believer and the unbeliever. When we stand against sin we are simply following God’s command to be salt and light. If you have a problem with Christians being salt and light them your problem is with God.

      I already know your response so let me address it now. You will say why have so many gone out and done terrible things in the name of Christianity? Not everyone who professes the name of Christ is His, for you will know them by their fruit.

      For an unbeliever to speak authoritatively on the Bible is misguided because the unbeliever can’t understand God’s Word because they are spiritually discerned (1 Corinthians 2:14). The fact that you don’t understand it is understandable and your love for ungodliness is understandable. However, try to show some class in debating these issues, because mockery is never persuasive.

      As far as those who say that Christians should not force their views on others, that is a self defeating statement for everyone has the right to voice their opinions, it’s the American way. You get to voice your opinion and we get to voice ours. At the end of the day we all get to vote on it and the majority wins. That why intelligently debating the issues of the day is so important – those with the majority view make the laws; so let the debates continue.

      One more thought: Who determines right and wrong? If it’s the God of the Bible then those standards don’t change. If its man then everything is relative, for man has never agreed and the group with the biggest guns makes the laws. Like that’s ever work. If Jesus is who He says He is, then God of the Bible sets the standards for right and wrong. I know you hate it, but it is what it is – logic.

      May 22, 2012 at 7:15 pm |
  14. Well..

    That is your take. So don't force your take to others in the name of law.

    May 22, 2012 at 11:35 am |
    • Bet

      Unfortunately for you, the law says that you can't discriminate based on religion. Gay marriage will be a reality. Live with it, bubba.

      May 22, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
  15. Michael

    The author of this piece defines what's wrong with those who use the Bible to condemn gay people and then want to hide behind it as if it's not their bigotry and hatred of gay people which is the real root of their condemnation. He doesn't condemn adultery or talks about it because he's never asked about it???? And why's that? Because EVERYONE is doing it. How often, if you follow this stuff, have you heard Leviticus quoted to say gays should be put to death yet have you ever heard the preceding scripture which states adulterers should be put to the death. It's cherry picking the Bible, using God as your tool to justify your hatred. Anyone who knows anything about true Christianity will realize God isn't going to be too thrilled people use His Name to condemn others. Condemning gay people isn't an act of love, hardly, but the outcome of one's bigotry and hate.

    btw, you guys might have a leg to stand on with your condemnations if the original text of the Bible condemned gay people. But, once again, the author portrays the problem by quoting Romans yet taking it completely out of context, ignoring the true condemnation of idolatry. And this comes from some so-called expert of the Bible...

    May 22, 2012 at 11:12 am |
    • Wrath of Zeus

      Well god doesn't exist and the bible is a book of fairytales, so non of it d should be taken seriously in any context.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:35 am |
    • Michael

      Zeus, when the Bible is used as a tool to drive gay kids to suicide then it should be taken seriously whether you believe in God or not.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
  16. sally

    How is it the most pressing issue of our time? What about the divorce rate? How come I can never get a Christian to answer that one? It is condemned hundreds of times in the bible.

    May 22, 2012 at 11:09 am |
    • Michael

      Adultery is not only condemned hundreds of times but such a HUGE sin it made it into the Top Ten list. Anyone who has cheated on their spouse is on their second or later marriage is technically committing adultery and, according to the Bible, should be put to death. But we never hear this condemnation because it's a lot easier to make money off of gay people and the hatred these so-called Christians have for them.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:15 am |
    • xyx25

      yes, every transgression about God's Commandments is a sin. Just because everyone is doing some sin doesn't make that sin not a sin. A sin is a sin, whether the pastor did it, or evangelical did it or a christian did it and doing it. There is no justification for a sin. It will expose our shortcoming and need for Saviour.
      1 John 1:9
      If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
  17. Oh My God

    Wait, so if some of the stuff in the bible isn't the word of God... does that mean ANYTHING in the bible could be made up???

    May 22, 2012 at 11:04 am |
  18. Reality

    Dear RM Jr.,

    ONLY FOR THE NEW MEMBERS:

    Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie/horn-blowing thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).

    Current problems:
    Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,

    From: http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1855948_1861760_1862212,00.html#ixzz0jg0lEyZj

    “Facing calls to curb child se-x abuse within its churches, in June the Southern Baptist Convention — the largest U.S. religious body after the Catholic Church — urged local hiring committees to conduct federal background checks but rejected a proposal to create a central database of staff and clergy who have been either convicted of or indicted on charges of molesting minors. The SBC decided against such a database in part because its principle of local autonomy means it cannot compel individual churches to report any information. And while the headlines regarding churches and pedophilia remain largely focused on Catholic parishes, the lack of hierarchical structure and systematized record-keeping in most Protestant churches makes it harder not only for church leaders to impose standards, but for interested parties to track allegations of abuse."

    Bottom line Mr. Mohler, clean up your own theology and current Baptist issues with pedophilia before commenting on morals.

    Once finished with that project, consider the following:

    Summarizing with a prayer:

    The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

    Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
    and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
    human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????

    I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
    preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
    named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
    girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
    Jerusalem.

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized"/"miraclized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
    ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

    Amen
    (References used are available upon request.)

    May 22, 2012 at 10:55 am |
    • RationalN

      cut. paste. (yawn)

      May 22, 2012 at 11:52 am |
    • Reality

      ONLY FOR THE NEW MEMBERS:

      As a good student, you have read the reiterations of the "fems" (flaws, errors, much and stench) of religion. Therefore the seeds have been planted in rich soil. Go therefore and preach the truth to all nations, reiterating as you go amongst the lost, bred, born and brainwashed souls of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism as Rational Thinking makes its triumphant return all because of you!!!!

      May 22, 2012 at 12:53 pm |
  19. Wrath of Zeus

    Blood farts

    May 22, 2012 at 10:42 am |
  20. howard Dao

    Why are we so concerned about gays ? They can't can't have babies so within a few generations there won't be any more of them. Wait , wait somethin is wrong here, gays have been going on since at least 5000 years now. Are they making babies some other ways ???

    May 22, 2012 at 10:16 am |
    • BRC

      Obviously they reproduce through witchcraft. That's why christianity is so against the gays, they're all witches. We shouldn't think of the people who vote against same gender marriages as bigotts, they're nobly trying to stop gay people from forming lots and lots of tiny covens. That is about the only thing that would make this make "sense".

      May 22, 2012 at 10:25 am |
    • Spike

      Gays don't make gay children, straights make gay children.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:39 am |
    • Primewonk

      My only quibble with your post would be the 5000 years. And this is a science area getting some investigation now. Hômosèxuality in humans has been around as long as there were humans, so it's at least 200,000 years old.

      But – evolution rarely results in different species evolving the same things independently numerous times. If we follow back the lines, it is likely (in my opinion) that hômosèxuality first evolved 300,000,000 years ago.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:51 am |
    • Dave

      A gay is made in the same way a murderer or thief is made. Commit an act of murder and you are a murderer . Commit an act of thievery and you are a thief. Commit a hom-o-se-xual act and you are gay. Until the choice of acting on the thoughts to commit any of these acts is made the person cannot be defined as such. A person is not a murderer until committing murder . A person is not a thief until they steal and person is not gay until they commit a hom-o-se-xual act. A choice must be made!

      May 22, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
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