My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality
The author writes that it's fine for Christians to take certain biblical condemnations seriously while ignoring others.
May 21st, 2012
10:00 AM ET

My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality

Editor's Note: R. Albert Mohler Jr. is president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, the flagship school of the Southern Baptist Convention and one of the largest seminaries in the world.

By R. Albert Mohler Jr., Special to CNN

Are conservative Christians hypocritical and selective when it comes to the Bible’s condemnation of homosexuality? With all that the Bible condemns, why the focus on gay sex and same-sex marriage?

Given the heated nature of our current debates, it’s a question conservative Christians have learned to expect. “Look,” we are told, “the Bible condemns eating shellfish, wearing mixed fabrics and any number of other things. Why do you ignore those things and insist that the Bible must be obeyed when it comes to sex?”

On its face, it’s a fair question. But it can be posed in two very different ways.

First, the question can be asked to suggest that the Bible’s clear condemnation of sexual sins can simply be set aside. The other way of posing the question represents a genuine attempt to understand how the Bible is to be rightly applied to life today.

In truth, those asking the question the first way really don’t want an answer.

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An honest consideration of the Bible reveals that most of the biblical laws people point to in asking this question, such as laws against eating shellfish or wearing mixed fabrics, are part of the holiness code assigned to Israel in the Old Testament. That code was to set Israel, God’s covenant people, apart from all other nations on everything from morality to diet.

As the Book of Acts makes clear, Christians are not obligated to follow this holiness code. This is made clear in Peter’s vision in Acts 10:15. Peter is told, “What God has made clean, do not call common.”

In other words, there is no kosher code for Christians. Christians are not concerned with eating kosher foods and avoiding all others. That part of the law is no longer binding, and Christians can enjoy shrimp and pork with no injury to conscience.

The Bible’s commands on sexual behavior, on the other hand, are continued in the New Testament. When it comes to homosexuality, the Bible’s teaching is consistent, pervasive, uniform and set within a larger context of law and Gospel.

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The Old Testament clearly condemns male homosexuality along with adultery, bestiality, incest and any sex outside the covenant of marriage. The New Testament does not lessen this concern but amplifies it.

The New Testament condemns both male and female homosexual behavior. The Apostle Paul, for example, points specifically to homosexuality as evidence of human sinfulness. His point is not merely that homosexuals are sinners but that all humanity has sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

The New Testament condemns a full range of sexual sins, and homosexuality is specified among these sins. In Romans, Paul refers to homosexuality in terms of “dishonorable passions,” “contrary to nature” and “shameless.” As New Testament scholar Robert Gagnon has stated, the Bible’s indictment “encompasses every and any form of homosexual behavior.”

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Some people then ask, “What about slavery and polygamy?” In the first place, the New Testament never commands slavery, and it prizes freedom and human dignity. For this reason, the abolitionist movement was largely led by Christians, armed with Christian conviction.

The Old Testament did allow for polygamy, though it normalizes heterosexual monogamy. In the New Testament, Jesus made clear that marriage was always meant to be one man and one woman.

“Have you not read that He who created them made them male and female?” Jesus asked in Matthew. "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.” For this reason, Christians have opposed polygamy on biblical grounds.

Why are Christians so concerned with homosexuality? In the first place, that question is answered by the simple fact that it is the most pressing moral question of our times. Christians must be concerned about adultery, pornography, injustice, dishonesty and everything the Bible names as sin. But when my phone rings with a call from a reporter these days, the question I am asked is never adultery or pornography. It is about homosexuality.

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Christians who are seriously committed to the authority of the Bible have no choice but to affirm all that the Bible teaches, including its condemnation of homosexuality. At the same time, our confidence is that God condemns those things that will bring his human creatures harm and commands those things that will lead to true human happiness and flourishing.

In other words, we understand that the Bible condemns all forms of sin because our Creator knows what is best for us. The Bible names sins specifically so that each of us will recognize our own sinfulness and look to Christ for salvation and the forgiveness of our sins.

Christian love requires that we believe and teach what the Bible teaches and that we do so with both strong conviction and humble hearts. The Church must repent of our failures in both of these tasks, but we must not be silent where the Bible speaks.

Are Christians hypocrites in insisting that homosexual behavior is sin? We, too, are sinners, and hypocrisy and inconsistency are perpetual dangers.

The church failed miserably in the face of the challenge of divorce. This requires an honest admission and strong corrective.

At the same time, this painful failure must remind us that we must not fail to answer rightly when asked what the Bible teaches about homosexuality. Love requires us to tell the truth.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of R. Albert Mohler Jr.

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Filed under: Bible • Christianity • Gay marriage • Opinion

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  1. Jamae S

    "As the Book of Acts makes clear, Christians are not obligated to follow this holiness code. This is made clear in Peter’s vision in Acts 10:15. Peter is told, “What God has made clean, do not call common.”

    In other words, there is no kosher code for Christians. Christians are not concerned with eating kosher foods and avoiding all others. That part of the law is no longer binding, and Christians can enjoy shrimp and pork with no injury to conscience."

    I believe the author of this article missed the true meaning of this passage of scripture with the unclean animals, If the author continued reading he would have found the tue explanation of the dream in verse 28 and 29 o the same chapter whch the bible actually gives. The dream was not really about animals but people who Peter would have deemed to be unclean to commune with, God was showing him thru this dream that he should not call non Jews unclean. Cornelius was not a Jew. Peter was still of the Jewish mindset that it was a sin to comme with men such as Cornelius. Why would God have one set of rues for the chldren of Isral and another set for Christian. Shrimp is not to be eaten because it is the garbage collector of the oceans, it feeds at the bottom of the ocean to clean the muck which means they may carry poisonous toxins that could harm humans. Try and understand and find the reaon why certain animals should not be eaten. There are logcal reasons, that is why God said do not eat. It is for our own good.

    May 22, 2012 at 10:30 pm |
    • jungleboo

      Could you turn you intellect toward something truly useful?

      May 22, 2012 at 10:37 pm |
    • Brampt

      James- Romans 1:26,27 clearly says that " ...females changed their natural use of themselves into one contrary to nature and like wise the males... Became violently inflamed in their lust toward one another, males with males, working what is obscene..." the acts txt ur posting there is way out of context!!

      May 22, 2012 at 10:50 pm |
    • Brampt

      James-Don't be like those false Christians in the past that started to become tiered of listening in trying to put the truth in practise in there life... there would be " a period of time when they ( people that call them selfs christians) will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accomulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled, and they will turn there ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories".

      May 22, 2012 at 11:00 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Hey, Brampt, when you manage to actually get through high school, alert the media. Your post is hilarious.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:03 pm |
    • Brampt

      Tom Tom- do u have highschool??

      May 22, 2012 at 11:10 pm |
    • Bet

      @brampt – y u no have highskool?

      May 23, 2012 at 1:21 am |
  2. Nii

    I mean if you can believe the Da Vinci Code which the author admits is fiction why do you disbelieve the Bible?
    If you do not love your neighbor as yourself the Bible makes little sense. Then a lot of chaff seem important.
    Moses modelled human brain functions using the Tabernacle. Think!

    May 22, 2012 at 10:19 pm |
    • Bet

      The bible and the Da Vinci code have a lot in common. Both are fiction.

      Moses modeled the human brain? Do tell. Tell us exactly what he said about the human brain.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:32 pm |
    • jungleboo

      "Moses modelled human brain functions using the Tabernacle."


      May 22, 2012 at 10:39 pm |
  3. us

    Jesus Christ is coming back as a LION not the lamb – are u ready – Soldiers of Christ

    May 22, 2012 at 10:05 pm |
    • Bet

      And he'll have a rainbow around his throne. Sounds kinda gay to me.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:35 pm |
    • jungleboo

      Well, you've been lyin' about him for 2000 years. I guess he's gotten your point. Careful though, he might be after you.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:41 pm |
    • howard Dao

      Why does the Prince of Peace needs Soldiers ????

      May 22, 2012 at 10:47 pm |
    • howard Dao

      Why does the Almighty needs Soldiers ?

      May 22, 2012 at 10:48 pm |
    • jungleboo

      They are taught to kill. That is their modus operandi. But their faces are calm during the act.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:58 pm |
  4. Nii

    The lie promoted here is that love is a monolithic emotion. LOVE is a complex emotion in varying degrees.
    Charitable love, the highest form, is not accepting everything. You can check 1 Cor 13 for a definition. Blind acceptance is romantic love which eventually leads to hatred.

    May 22, 2012 at 10:04 pm |
    • Bet

      Blind acceptance of imaginary gods and man made books creates hatred. Who decided that you and your imaginary friend can define love for everyone else?

      May 22, 2012 at 10:30 pm |
    • jungleboo

      "Blind acceptance is romantic love which eventually leads to hatred."

      How does "blind acceptance" = "romantic love"? Aren't you participating in blind acceptance of your buy bull?

      May 22, 2012 at 10:44 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Are you really questioning Nii and expecting something resembling an intelligent response?

      May 22, 2012 at 10:45 pm |
  5. Todd

    Hate is shooting, name-calling, bullying. Standing for a law that is, in name only, a barrier to marriage is, at worst, misunderstanding, ignorance, bad.

    I have been alive for a number of years, and for most of those years, I have attended a conservative Christian church while having gay feelings. Although the people in my church would call the acting out of these feelings a sin, they would never do anything worse than pray for me and vote against my being able to marry. I would entrust them to care for my children if I had any. I would tell them my social security number. I would let them hold onto my credit card. They are in no way hateful or awful people.

    If I am in a closet, I think what keeps me there (and usually chaste) is their love and compassion. I have known many gay people in my life, and I have found many of them (NOT ALL) to be two-faced and hateful of anyone who disagrees with them. At this point in my life, if I had to choose between two camps, I choose the one filled with love.

    The truth is, I agree with Mohler's stance. Not because the Bible tells me so, but because logic and reasoning tell me so. I have lived in the shoes of a gay man and know that the pain and hurt of my childhood have had a devastating affect on me. If I wasn't born gay–and personally, I don't feel that I was–then I know I will never be happy in that life. All you have to do is google "gay open marriage statistics" to see that maybe there is truth to what I'm saying, that even many gay men–NOT ALL–aren't finding satisfaction in their relationships.

    That is not to say that we shouldn't be respectful of others whose lifestyle choices differ from ours. Maybe the laws should be changed so that those who truly feel they were born gay have the same rights as those who truly feel they were born straight. Either way, let's start by acknowledging the value of ALL human life, gay or straight.

    Let the name-calling and nastiness proceed:

    May 22, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
    • not again

      It will come most on here dont want to here that most true chrisitians wouldnt do anything to hurt them, although they can not agree with the gay lifestyle.

      May 22, 2012 at 9:56 pm |
    • JeffreyRO5

      Is it really up to you to determine how others live their lives? That's what happens when you pass laws that let some people have a right, while denying it to others. You are not God. Stop acting like it. It is highly offensive to the real God.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:10 pm |
    • not again

      The bible teaches us to cry aloud and spare not and to go into all nations preaching the gospel. Just sayin.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:13 pm |
    • Chad

      @Todd: Although every single one of us faces temptation on a daily basis, I doubt many of us face it as deeply as you do, and I am certainly sure few of us is able to resist it as you have. Personally, I'm impressed. I seem completely unable to do that..

      One bad thing about all this attention to homosexual behavior and prohibition is this it distracts us from the more common place, but equally sinful behaviors of divorce, hatred, slander, drunkenness, disrespect, lying, etc..

      Most of us Christians prefer to condemn sinfulness in others rather than seek to address our own sinful behavior (for we all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God). I think for the most part that attitude is subconscious, but sometimes not. It's been a problem for a very long time.

      You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. Romans 2

      My God continue to bless you, keep you, and deliver you.

      Thankfully you and I worship a God that will judge us not as we deserve, but as Christ deserved.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:17 pm |
    • JOregon

      The Gospel is not pointing out the individual sins of people.
      Sin demands payment, wages.
      Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
      The good news isn't that you are a sinner. The good news is the payment has been made.
      A Christian is to be like Christ:

      John 12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

      We are not to Judge.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:28 pm |
    • JOregon

      "many gay men–NOT ALL–aren't finding satisfaction in their relationships."

      You may not be aware of this but many straight people aren't finding satisfaction in their relationships either.
      I also know some angry gays but what seems to drive the anger is people sticking their noses into their lives.
      You have made your choice based on your faith.
      Others don't share your faith and they are persecuted, called wicked, horrible, and disgusting. Are you surprised that makes them angry?
      The United States is a secular Nation.
      A secular gay couple harms no one.
      Divorce harms people, adultery harms people, obviously acts of violence harm people, calling people wicked, disgusting, vile, and other hateful terms harms people.
      The church is hypocritical in how they are addressing gays. Mark 10:11-12 as an example of marriages these churches perform.
      As a Christian this hypocrisy offends me and is why I get involved in these discussions.
      As a Christian I know the bible doesn't tell us to point out the individual sins of people in the secular world. To see the church doing just that, offends me.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:42 pm |
    • jungleboo

      "Point out the sins of the world?" It does no good to run around saying "i'm a sinner too" as you categorize people according to your dreadful philosophy. Why do you hate Life so much? Who has abused you to the point that you would carry out these orders and make a mockery of the concept of Love? Religion is child abuse.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:49 pm |
  6. us

    listen to all this hate speech against christians

    May 22, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
    • us

      Just Like Old Times

      May 22, 2012 at 10:01 pm |
    • Bet

      Oh poor you. You are trying to prevent other human beings from having the same civil rights as everyone else, and you cry that you are being persecuted. Hypocrite.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:18 pm |
  7. Nii

    I wonder why people are obscuring certain facts. The Bible is very accurate in Psychology, Psychaitry and Psychoanalyses. It was written to help men solve the intuitive moral dillemma they find themselves in. The Law consists of 3 parts, one of which, ritual law, Gentile xtians r not bound by.

    May 22, 2012 at 9:43 pm |
    • not again

      Because if they admit that they have no argument.

      May 22, 2012 at 9:52 pm |
    • Bet

      Pray tell.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:19 pm |

    @Derigible: I grew up Catholic. Sin, confess on Saturday, go to church on Sunday. Sin again, confess on Saturday, go to church on Sunday. Lather, rinse, repeat. It's a fantastic system!

    May 22, 2012 at 9:39 pm |
    • a person of the Name

      So you tread on God's grace?

      May 22, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      So YOU tread on other people's rights?

      May 22, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
    • not again

      Thats not how grace, forgiveness works although some catholics seem to believe this way.

      May 22, 2012 at 9:51 pm |
    • a person of the Name

      I haven't done anything Tom Tom but you seam so fitting to throw me in. Issues much?

      May 22, 2012 at 9:53 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "SEAM so fitting"??? Are you a tailor? Or just another illiterate dolt trying to tell others the meaning of scripture when you can barely write?

      May 22, 2012 at 9:56 pm |
    • a person of the Name

      Lol so much anger. If your asking if I agree with it, no. Would I say its right, no. Would I respect the law, yes. As long as they're not trying to say God is ok with it I have no problum. Get married under civil law but don't expect me to ok with it.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:04 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I don't give a dam@ what some idiot who can't even figure out how to use apostrophes thinks about anything. Stay out of others' lives, you moron, and stop pretending you are some sort of sage. You aren't. You're barely literate.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      And really??? Seriously??? "PROBLUM"?

      What are you, 15?

      May 22, 2012 at 10:16 pm |
    • a person of the Name

      This is the internet, not some business meeting. I have no interest in my grammer when I'm at home chasing kids. I'm no sage, but I do strive to be more like God in all things. I do have to say this, you should talk to someone about your anger. I wish you only the best.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:25 pm |
    • Bet

      @ name

      Ad hominem arguments are all you have. Tom hasn't shown anger. You just can't don't have any response, so you attack him personally.

      This isn't a business meeting, but really, if you want to be taken seriously, at least try to use some basic language skills. If you don't care about how intelligent your posts look, why should we?

      May 22, 2012 at 10:40 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "Grammer"?? Seriously? You are a high-school dropout for sure, honey, and your attempts to pretend you are intelligent have failed miserably.

      You want to make a point? Grow a friggin' brain, idiot.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:43 pm |
    • a person of the Name

      Tom Tom was the one who attacked me. I'm not here to argue, only to state a point. Ppl here are strong in what they believe and won't be swayed one way or the other.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:46 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You're right, honey, I DID attack you, because YOU imagine yourself to be some sort of Biblical scholar, when you can't even spell "grammar" without looking it up in your picture dictionary. I'm sick of you morons who barely managed to get through high school but imagine yourselves to be interpreters of God and the Bible. You can't even read a newspaper!

      Get a brain, get a GED, get a clue. If you aren't any smarter or better educated than you appear here, you aren't worthy to tell ANYONE ANYTHING.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:49 pm |
    • JOregon

      The Internet is pretty amazing.
      People from all over the WORLD come together and discuss things.
      For many English isn't their first or even second language.
      I have a friend that spells Dining as Daning, but then he speaks more languages than I do.
      My father was an Engineer, and a City, County, and State Planner. You could throw numbers at him and he would give you the answer just as the last number left your lips. Spelling wasn't his strong suit.
      I usually do pretty well, though occasionally I get a bit ydslexic. I'm also a bit clumsy with the kEYBOARD, and hjit the wrung keyz.
      Thank goodness for smell check, however being color blind I don't alweez spot my errrror.
      Some words aren't always what eye intended even though they are words.
      Of course here in the world of the internet we do get people of all ages including old folks such as myself.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:09 pm |
  9. Center Of The Universe

    History without religion.

    Cleopatra queen of Egypt had a son with Julius Ceasar ruler of Rome.
    Cleopatra had declared herself the reincarnation of the goddess Isis, a virgin goddess.
    The Roman senate had declared Ceasar, a god.
    So thier son "Ceserian" was the son of "God" and the son of a "virgin".

    When Ceasar was murdered in Rome, Mark Antony (a member of Ceasars army)
    made an allegiance with Cleopatra, fell in love with her, and they had 3 more children.

    When Rome declared war on Egypt, Cleopatra and Antony lost the war and died.

    All historical facts.

    Jesus Christ is translated as – Son Of Isis

    Cesearian was taken out of Egypt and spent many years
    learning the teachings of the buddhists.
    Apon returning to Egypt he searched for his half brothers and sisters.

    Jesus was not the son of a carpenter.
    He was the son of Egyptian and Roman royalty.
    He came back to reclaim his throne.
    He was crucified for political reasons.

    Your history texts, your bible, everything that you have been told,
    is a lie.

    The adopted son of Ceasar was called "octavian".
    He had his father killed, destroyed Egypt, and changed history.
    All because he wanted the throne of Rome.

    Jesus (Cesearian) did not die on the cross.
    The blood line lives today.

    You have been decieved, because you dont know your history.
    Eyes may be open, but minds are not.

    May 22, 2012 at 9:22 pm |
    • not again

      WOW!!!! This is true comedy

      May 22, 2012 at 9:26 pm |
    • not again

      The word Jesus is the Latin form of the Greek Iesous, which in turn is the transliteration of the Hebrew Jeshua, or Joshua, or again Jehoshua, meaning "Jehovah is salvation

      May 22, 2012 at 9:29 pm |

      Thank you. All they have to do is read Holy Blood, Holy Grail. Or, at the very least, The DaVinci Code.

      May 22, 2012 at 9:30 pm |

    I just saw Jesus, and he was driving a Cadillac Escalade down Wilshire in West Hollywo.od with Adam Lambert.

    May 22, 2012 at 9:13 pm |
    • Bet

      Did the caddy have a big ole gay rainbow on it? I love rainbows!

      May 23, 2012 at 2:54 am |
  11. Balaam

    Christians have always believed in talking asses. (See Numbers 22:21)

    I renounced christianity when I realized what a hateful religion it is. (See Torture, Inquisition, Jew; See Massacre, Crusades, Muslim; See Concentration Camp, Baptist, Gay.) When the Baptist begin stoning divorced and remarried Christians (who "The Scriptures" identify as adulterers who should be stoned), then I'll be content.

    May 22, 2012 at 9:10 pm |
    • not again

      Matthew 22 31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. Yes even divorce and hom o se xuality can be forgiven, but not if you dont cease the sin.

      May 22, 2012 at 9:13 pm |
    • Derigible

      If you sin, and repent you are forgiven.
      That means that you can sin all you want, as long as you repent for the sin.
      Nice setup.

      May 22, 2012 at 9:28 pm |
    • not again

      No you can not sin all you want, but only Jesus was perfect and if you repent with an earnest heart you will be forgiven. You have to be earnest, its not a pass to sin freely.

      May 22, 2012 at 9:32 pm |
    • atomD21

      @not again... Bit of a sticky wicket on the divorce issue there... How can one "stop the sin" of divorce if the sin is also in the remarrying part? By getting divorced again? What then? Isn't that just a big sinful spiral we have? The church ignored the divorce issue because it was too widespread to actually preach against, as that would make a lot of people angry and leave. We pick and choose which sins are actually bad all the time. Think about how much gossip and back stabbing go in in our churches daily. That sort of conduct is wrong, but where are the sermons and bumper stickers on that? Oh, that's right, the pastor's wife is often part of that group, so he can't talk about that, or it's the couch for him. We need to stop pointing out how bad other people are and relaize we are all in the same boat, so let's cooperate to keep it from sinking.

      May 22, 2012 at 9:34 pm |
    • not again

      @atom..There is terrible things that go on in churches I can not argue that point. We can not compromise the teaching of the bible to allow for our lifestyle. If it is not meant to be taken litereraly than why follow any of it. It is either truth or lie and I would say it is truth. Please read the parts in the bible that warn about adding to or taking away from Gods word.

      May 22, 2012 at 9:45 pm |
  12. *frank*

    Dear Mr. R. Albert Mohler Jr.
    Please shove your idiotic opinions up your ass and die, you verminous jackass.
    Sincerely, *frank*

    May 22, 2012 at 9:09 pm |
    • Gordie240

      Hi Frank, what is it in particular that you are finding "idiotic"?

      May 22, 2012 at 9:24 pm |
    • Bet

      I don't want to speak for frank, but I suspect it has something to do with using a made up book full of lies, fairy tales and bigotry to deny people their civil rights.

      JMO, I could be wrong.

      May 23, 2012 at 1:25 am |
  13. E.S.

    Christianity is immoral and disgusting and anyone who believes anything in the book actually occurred or is of an validity, is wrong.

    May 22, 2012 at 9:01 pm |
  14. Maya

    The worst part about the Christian bigotry is that they claim to do what they do out of love. That has to be the biggest lie ever told, more so because many of them actually believe it. Love has nothing to do with it. They simply want to cast everyone who doesn't believe as they do as inferior so they can feel better about themselves. When you lack intelligence, talent, or ingenuity, you can always pretend to be morally superior to everyone else. It saves you from having to make any actual effort. Their beliefs do not come out of love, but out of self-loathing. Their entire primitive religion is based on self-loathing. If you look at Christianity with a clear mind and open eyes, you realize that everything about it screams death and destruction. They invented their religion to bolster their meager egos, but also so that they would not have to fear death. In trying to avoid death, they in fact embrace it and seek to inflict it upon others. Christianity is truly a death cult.

    May 22, 2012 at 9:01 pm |
    • not again

      Practice what you preach, you state a lot of bad things about christians than you turn around and do the same thing.

      May 22, 2012 at 9:05 pm |
    • Gordie240

      Hi Maya, I think I understand where you are coming from. There is a huge danger with any belief system – Christian, Muslim, secular humanist, atheist, etc, to believe so strongly in your system that you feel superior over and then despise them. I agree it can for sure be an issue of self-loathing – namely that you can despise yourself especially if you are not measuring up to your own religious standards. However, where I would push back is my understanding of Christianity is that you love and serve those who disagree with you, even to lay your life down for them. What if being a radical means you actually become more sacrificially loving. This is the heart of Christianity as demonstrated by Jesus.

      May 22, 2012 at 9:35 pm |

    Stephen Hawking said "Science is about to read the mind of God." Good. Maybe now we'll get some real answers.

    May 22, 2012 at 9:00 pm |

    Prof. Stephen Hawking said, "Science is about to read the mind of God." Maybe once we can read God's mind, we'll get a few answers.

    May 22, 2012 at 8:58 pm |
  17. Maya

    What a load. This person is a liar. The Bible contradicts itself as to whether or not Christians are required to follow the Old Testament laws, which is a result of conflicts between early Christians. Some still thought of themselves as essentially Jewish, and some wanted to abandon Judaism and its traditions. That conflict was written into the Bible. The Bible contradicts itself for the most obvious reason: it was written by people who didn't agree with each other.

    At the end of the day, it makes no difference what the Bible says. Christians may believe as they wish. They can hate anyone they want. Our society and laws are secular, and Christians have no right to try to write their beliefs into law. You do not own this country. You need to get that through your thick skulls.

    May 22, 2012 at 8:54 pm |
    • not again

      As he stated the old testament law was not written for christians, these where Jewish laws.

      May 22, 2012 at 9:02 pm |
    • atomD21

      Maya, I'm a Christian, and I have to say that I agree with you 100%. Religion cannot be turned into law in a secular republic such as ours. As for the author, this guy is head of a very conservative evangelical seminary, so he will simply echo the talking points of the mainstream, as if he were to tell us what he really thinks, he would lose his job. The Bible is not a thing to be read and taken literally, as I have come to understand after reading it. It is however a good guide to us to see where we have come from (barbaric wars, strict rule sets, primitive understanding of the world) and where we should be going (love and acceptance for all, working together to do good). Somewhere along the line, we got lost and began using this guide as a sword to vanquish those that would dare to disagree with us. I think it's rather telling that the church today is acting the same way the pharisees from the Gospels were. More concerned with the appearance of piety and righteousness than with fixing this broken world we all share.

      May 22, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
    • not again

      @atom...not being mean, just wandering, what part of the bible do we take litereraly

      May 22, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
    • atomD21

      @not again... That has been a foundational belief of most every evangelical denomination out there: The Bible is the inerrant word of God and every word in it is true.

      May 22, 2012 at 9:38 pm |
    • not again

      @Atom....I agree every word is true.

      May 22, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
    • Bet

      "not being mean, just wandering, what part of the bible do we take literarily"

      Why don't you "wander" into a mental health clinic, or at least a second grade spelling class?

      May 22, 2012 at 10:24 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Haha, Bet. Good one!

      Thanks for the LOL on Aunt Pittypat, doll.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:26 pm |
    • Bet

      @ tom

      I was still laughing about it this afternoon! Best comment on the whole thread.

      May 23, 2012 at 12:35 am |

    I just love the Christers' "accept this, accept that" stance. They love to s.uck the fun out of life.
    I'm a physicist by education, I live and work in the movie biz now, and I've heard Bible-thumpers complain to me how we're putting "unnatural" ideas into kids' minds. Get a clue. They think movies with aliens will drive their kids to believe in them. Movies about vampires will do the same thing. And, Heaven forfend their kid bring home a comic book!
    Live and let live, and STOP PUSHING your belief off onto me and everybody else!

    May 22, 2012 at 8:50 pm |
  19. LA Holley

    Thank you so much for interpreting "God's Word" for all of the sheep out here. Now none of us have to worry about thinking for ourselves about issues of respect, human dignity, morality, and kindness. We can simply sit back and rely on your interpretation of this contradictory, outdated book. Even better, we can make public policy decisions affecting millions simply based on your word and this book. Life will be so much easier now.

    May 22, 2012 at 8:44 pm |
  20. not again

    Look guys you can be forgiven for divorce, as long as you don't keep repeating the process. You can be forgiven for being gay as long as you dont keep repeating process. Forgiveness dont work if you dont stop the sin. Someone said that being gay was not a choice. You are wrong everything in life that we do by our own decision is a choice. You can say that the urge to be gay is not a choice and I can not argue that, but you choose to be gay. There are a lot of urges in life that we must war against and we face consequences when we allow them to control us.

    May 22, 2012 at 8:43 pm |
    • JOregon

      The problem is the Southern Baptist church and many of the other anti gay churches have a 4X25 Laminated beam in their eye.
      These churches have no right to criticize others when they claim to bless adulterous marriages.
      The bible is CLEAR:
      Mark 10:11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.
      Mark 10:12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
      These churches perform such marriage ceremonies all the time.

      May 22, 2012 at 9:06 pm |
    • not again

      Matthew 12 31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

      May 22, 2012 at 9:10 pm |
    • JOregon

      No where in the bible are Christians told to point to the individual sins of those in the secular world.
      Christians are told to correct their fellow believers.
      The church has overstepped it's bounds by pointing their finger at gays. they need to pay attention to where those other 3 fingers are pointing instead.
      This really isn't about what sins can be forgiven. It is about what sins matter. So many Christians have focused on this one sin you would think all the others are acceptable to God.

      May 22, 2012 at 9:19 pm |
    • not again

      He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. Mark 16:15. Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins. Isiah 58-1

      May 22, 2012 at 10:04 pm |
    • JOregon

      The Gospel (Good News) is not that you are a sinner. Or that you have a particular sin.
      Sin demands payment, the "wages of sin".
      We all know there are sins within us. Things we do that we are not comfortable with.
      The Gospel is that the Payment required has been made.
      Leave it to God to open someone's eyes to which sins those are.
      "shew my people"
      In the OT God's people were the Jews.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:18 pm |
    • Bet

      How convenient that god gives you a do over.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:48 pm |
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