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My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality
The author writes that it's fine for Christians to take certain biblical condemnations seriously while ignoring others.
May 21st, 2012
10:00 AM ET

My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality

Editor's Note: R. Albert Mohler Jr. is president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, the flagship school of the Southern Baptist Convention and one of the largest seminaries in the world.

By R. Albert Mohler Jr., Special to CNN

Are conservative Christians hypocritical and selective when it comes to the Bible’s condemnation of homosexuality? With all that the Bible condemns, why the focus on gay sex and same-sex marriage?

Given the heated nature of our current debates, it’s a question conservative Christians have learned to expect. “Look,” we are told, “the Bible condemns eating shellfish, wearing mixed fabrics and any number of other things. Why do you ignore those things and insist that the Bible must be obeyed when it comes to sex?”

On its face, it’s a fair question. But it can be posed in two very different ways.

First, the question can be asked to suggest that the Bible’s clear condemnation of sexual sins can simply be set aside. The other way of posing the question represents a genuine attempt to understand how the Bible is to be rightly applied to life today.

In truth, those asking the question the first way really don’t want an answer.

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An honest consideration of the Bible reveals that most of the biblical laws people point to in asking this question, such as laws against eating shellfish or wearing mixed fabrics, are part of the holiness code assigned to Israel in the Old Testament. That code was to set Israel, God’s covenant people, apart from all other nations on everything from morality to diet.

As the Book of Acts makes clear, Christians are not obligated to follow this holiness code. This is made clear in Peter’s vision in Acts 10:15. Peter is told, “What God has made clean, do not call common.”

In other words, there is no kosher code for Christians. Christians are not concerned with eating kosher foods and avoiding all others. That part of the law is no longer binding, and Christians can enjoy shrimp and pork with no injury to conscience.

The Bible’s commands on sexual behavior, on the other hand, are continued in the New Testament. When it comes to homosexuality, the Bible’s teaching is consistent, pervasive, uniform and set within a larger context of law and Gospel.

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The Old Testament clearly condemns male homosexuality along with adultery, bestiality, incest and any sex outside the covenant of marriage. The New Testament does not lessen this concern but amplifies it.

The New Testament condemns both male and female homosexual behavior. The Apostle Paul, for example, points specifically to homosexuality as evidence of human sinfulness. His point is not merely that homosexuals are sinners but that all humanity has sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

The New Testament condemns a full range of sexual sins, and homosexuality is specified among these sins. In Romans, Paul refers to homosexuality in terms of “dishonorable passions,” “contrary to nature” and “shameless.” As New Testament scholar Robert Gagnon has stated, the Bible’s indictment “encompasses every and any form of homosexual behavior.”

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Some people then ask, “What about slavery and polygamy?” In the first place, the New Testament never commands slavery, and it prizes freedom and human dignity. For this reason, the abolitionist movement was largely led by Christians, armed with Christian conviction.

The Old Testament did allow for polygamy, though it normalizes heterosexual monogamy. In the New Testament, Jesus made clear that marriage was always meant to be one man and one woman.

“Have you not read that He who created them made them male and female?” Jesus asked in Matthew. "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.” For this reason, Christians have opposed polygamy on biblical grounds.

Why are Christians so concerned with homosexuality? In the first place, that question is answered by the simple fact that it is the most pressing moral question of our times. Christians must be concerned about adultery, pornography, injustice, dishonesty and everything the Bible names as sin. But when my phone rings with a call from a reporter these days, the question I am asked is never adultery or pornography. It is about homosexuality.

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Christians who are seriously committed to the authority of the Bible have no choice but to affirm all that the Bible teaches, including its condemnation of homosexuality. At the same time, our confidence is that God condemns those things that will bring his human creatures harm and commands those things that will lead to true human happiness and flourishing.

In other words, we understand that the Bible condemns all forms of sin because our Creator knows what is best for us. The Bible names sins specifically so that each of us will recognize our own sinfulness and look to Christ for salvation and the forgiveness of our sins.

Christian love requires that we believe and teach what the Bible teaches and that we do so with both strong conviction and humble hearts. The Church must repent of our failures in both of these tasks, but we must not be silent where the Bible speaks.

Are Christians hypocrites in insisting that homosexual behavior is sin? We, too, are sinners, and hypocrisy and inconsistency are perpetual dangers.

The church failed miserably in the face of the challenge of divorce. This requires an honest admission and strong corrective.

At the same time, this painful failure must remind us that we must not fail to answer rightly when asked what the Bible teaches about homosexuality. Love requires us to tell the truth.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of R. Albert Mohler Jr.

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soundoff (7,995 Responses)
  1. Down with hate

    If you want to live in a country ruled by a radical fundamentalist religion, you can always move to Iran. We won't miss you here in the land of the free.

    May 23, 2012 at 2:18 am |
  2. Nii

    Humans feed their intuition to modify themselves all the time. The easiest is called acting where you know its all a lie. however it can be as hard as convincing yourself you cant change your thinking as in the Western LGBT male society.

    May 23, 2012 at 2:03 am |
    • Bet

      There are lesbian males? How interesting.

      May 23, 2012 at 2:43 am |
  3. Nii

    Se.xuality, s.ex and s.exual orientation have very different meanings n none mean the se.xual instinct directly. The s.exual instinct like all other instincts is blind n seeks to satisfy itself without prejudice to means. Humans overide this by intuition n intellect to choose how they satisfy it.

    May 23, 2012 at 1:55 am |
    • Bet

      If anyone knows about blindness and prejudice, it's you. We can agree on that.

      May 23, 2012 at 2:44 am |
    • BamaDaniel

      Naturally attracted to women born that way,knew since I was a lil boy I like coochie

      May 23, 2012 at 2:47 am |
  4. us

    Jesus Christ is King of Kings, Lord of Lords, The Son of the Living God. There is no greater Love than a friend giving his life for another, He gave his life so we can live.

    May 23, 2012 at 12:18 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      How profound. If posted by a hamster.

      May 23, 2012 at 12:19 am |
    • JOregon

      @US
      What does that have to do with the hypocrisy of the SBC?

      May 23, 2012 at 1:38 am |
    • Bet

      Nope, not my king, not my lord, not my god.

      May 23, 2012 at 2:47 am |
  5. us

    tom tom needs a nap nap

    May 23, 2012 at 12:09 am |
    • Bet

      I'd suggest that you're the one who needs a nap, and by nap I mean electroshock therapy.

      May 23, 2012 at 12:42 am |
  6. howard Dao

    How about these simple rules:
    if 2 gays or 2 heteros do it in public, put them in jail.
    if 2 gays or 2 heteros do in in their bedrooms, leave them alone.
    If you peek into the bedroom of 2 gays or 2 heteros, you take your self to .ail. 😉

    May 23, 2012 at 12:07 am |
  7. Reality

    Dear RM Jr.,

    ONLY FOR THE NEW MEMBERS:

    Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie/horn-blowing thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).

    Current problems:
    Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,

    From: http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1855948_1861760_1862212,00.html#ixzz0jg0lEyZj

    “Facing calls to curb child se-x abuse within its churches, in June the Southern Baptist Convention — the largest U.S. religious body after the Catholic Church — urged local hiring committees to conduct federal background checks but rejected a proposal to create a central database of staff and clergy who have been either convicted of or indicted on charges of molesting minors. The SBC decided against such a database in part because its principle of local autonomy means it cannot compel individual churches to report any information. And while the headlines regarding churches and pedophilia remain largely focused on Catholic parishes, the lack of hierarchical structure and systematized record-keeping in most Protestant churches makes it harder not only for church leaders to impose standards, but for interested parties to track allegations of abuse."

    Bottom line Mr. Mohler, clean up your own theology and current Baptist issues with pedophilia before commenting on morals.

    Once finished with that project, consider the following:

    Summarizing with a prayer:

    The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

    Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
    and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
    human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????

    I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
    preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
    named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
    girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
    Jerusalem.

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized"/"miraclized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
    ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

    Amen
    (References used are available upon request.)

    As a good student, you have read the reiterations of the "fems" (flaws, errors, much and stench) of religion. Therefore the seeds have been planted in rich soil. Go therefore and preach the truth to all nations, reiterating as you go amongst the lost, bred, born and brainwashed souls of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism as Rational Thinking makes its triumphant return all because of you!!!!

    May 22, 2012 at 11:44 pm |
    • us

      you forgot ATHIEISM, DIESTS, DOWISM, PEAGANS, WICKENS ...........................

      May 22, 2012 at 11:55 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      What the hell are "peagans", you dwarf?

      May 22, 2012 at 11:56 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      What are "wickets", you hard?

      May 22, 2012 at 11:57 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      edit: 'wickens'.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:59 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      How about "athiests and diests"?

      You morons do yourselves in; no effort needed on anyone else's part.

      May 23, 2012 at 12:01 am |
    • Mark9988

      You consider what you wrote is 'rational thinking'.

      May 23, 2012 at 12:16 am |
    • Bet

      You had me at "dowism".

      May 23, 2012 at 12:17 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Bet, you are funny. That is all.

      May 23, 2012 at 12:21 am |
    • Bet

      @tom Thanks. You have to keep a sense of humor in here.

      Too bad that "us" isn't intelligent enough to get the joke.

      May 23, 2012 at 1:09 am |
  8. Mennoknight

    All moral decisions that are a choice and se.x is just one of those choices.
    Hete.rose.xual.ity is a choice
    Hom.ose.xua.lity is a choice
    Mon.oga.my is a choice
    Po.lyg.amy is a choice.
    Bi is a choice
    Celi,bacy is a choice

    I Choose to follow The Manual. It is called The New Testament.

    May 22, 2012 at 11:38 pm |
    • jungleboo

      Laughable choice of words, Mr. Mennonite. 'Manual' used to mean a one way ticket to fire and brimstone, or are you too young to remember that obsolete bit of God's Word.

      BTW, s. exuality is a drive, not a choice. If it were really a choice, the world would have died out long, long ago. It is a DRIVE. Not a CHOICE

      May 22, 2012 at 11:52 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Hey, Mennopot, when did you 'choose' to be heteros3xual?

      May 22, 2012 at 11:54 pm |
    • Bet

      Hey, menno, I'm still waiting for you to answer me back on my response to your arrogant presumptions about me, my level of understanding of christianity and my knowledge of the bible or lack thereof. It's back on page 84, but for your convenience, I'll repost here:

      You said: "Your understanding of the Christian faith is flawed because you have not read and studied "the manual", the New Testament. Start with reading the book of Luke / Acts then read some of Paul's shorter letters as a starting point."

      And I responded:

      "How arrogant can you be? You have no idea what I've read or studied. Don't tell me what I understand and don't understand.

      I posted this elsewhere on the thread but will copy it here for you:

      I used to be a catholic, and then a born again christian. I remember sitting down with my parish priest to ask him some questions about catholic doctrine. His ignorance of the bible absolutely stunned me. He misquoted entire passages. He had no knowledge of the OT outside of Moses in the bullrushes, Adam and Eve, Job, and Noah, which are taught to catholics in kindergarten. He contradicted himself, got angry when I asked for clarification, and told me that I needed to stop reading the bible because I "wasn't educated, like he was". I resigned from my position as a teacher in his catholic school at the end of the term and left the catholic church.

      My experience with the born again movement was the same. Everything was fine until I started asking questions. The minister couldn't keep his stories straight, guilted me, as well as the rest of the congregation, into giving him money that I didn't have and couldn't afford to give, yet he lived in a million dollar mansion and drove an expensive car. His wife wore designer clothes and drove a Lincoln. He got angry with me when he couldn't come up with answers to fundamental questions, and finally told me that women shouldn't be trying to understand the bible – that I should just do what the men said. Then I was systematically shut out from the congregation.

      My final attempt was in private study with a born again christian scholar. I studied the bible in Aramaic, Latin and Greek as well as English. This teacher told me that I shouldn't accept anyone's word about the bible, not even his, and that I should always question what others said because they usually have motives other than my "salvation", probably my money. He was the only christian I've ever met who said that. I studied with him for ten years until I studied myself right out of believing in any god. He passed away recently, but he gave me a gift that I will always treasure – the confidence to think for myself. I didn't agree with him on theology, but I admire that he was secure enough to let me question it on my own. He also respected my decision to leave and we stayed in touch till the end. I still correspond with his wife.

      I'd wager that I know a lot more about the bible than you do. And I know that your bible has a few rules about pride and arrogance in it."

      May 23, 2012 at 12:52 am |
    • Mennoknight

      Bet,
      Sorry man about not responding. The thing about this blog is that if you close it down it and then reopen it later it is really hard to find where you were at earlier.

      I am Anabaptist Christian. This means that I believe in the the same way that you are studying the Bible.

      I am not trying to be arrogant or condescending, I have tried to crack jokes and not use name calling.

      I have a Masters in Theology and an undergraduate in Youth Ministry. I know Koine Greek (NT Greek) and a little Hebrew (flunked that one, fortunately I did not need that one to graduate or I would have never finished)
      I graduated exactly middle of the pack.

      I don't know how I offended you but I am simply saying that we all choose how we live. Nobody makes you do anything that is a moral choice. This is the basis of free and this is one of my roots of my Biblical World View.

      I would say the same thing as your theologian friend. Think for yourself and study for yourself because it is ultimately YOUR choice.
      All the most important things in this life come down to your choice. This is the greatest gift of God, the ability to accept Him or choose to reject Him.
      I don't hold non-believers to the standards of scripture, but I will shout it from the roof tops that you have the choice to choose all the really important decisions in your life. You are not bound by your animal whims. You are made in the image of God, and you have the right to Choose to follow what ever path you take.

      But that same scripture teaches that you also reap what you sow by the choices you make.

      Choose what you want, but remember you always have the choice!

      Blessings.
      And remember as a Mennonite I am much more Humbler than thou are. (Weird Al) 🙂

      May 23, 2012 at 1:19 am |
    • Mennoknight

      Bret,
      I looked back and found your original post. Did not mean to ignore, just got missed in the mash of stuff on this forum.

      And I looked back on my posts. I really do think you are reading into things that are simply not being said.

      Peace and good night.

      May 23, 2012 at 1:29 am |
    • Bet

      You "don't know how you offended me"? Are you serious?

      You posted an arrogant, condescending remark about how my "understanding of the Christian faith is flawed because you have not read and studied "the manual", the New Testament.", then proceed to tell me what to read, "Start with reading the book of Luke / Acts then read some of Paul's shorter letters as a starting point." as if I am six years old and need a first grade primer.

      You presume to tell me what I've read and studied, and what my level of understanding is, and yet you "don't know how you offended me'?

      All the while you pat yourself on the back because you've made all these highly moral "choices" based on a book that no one, even in your own christian faith, can agree on. Are you kidding me?

      At least we agree that I have a choice. It's people like you that made me choose atheism.

      May 23, 2012 at 1:48 am |
    • Bet

      Oh, and while we're trading educational histories, I have a Master of Science in Biotechnology from the University of Maryland, and undergrads in General Sciences, Education and Psychology from Northwestern. I graduated with a 3.75 GPA in my MS program. So I understand the big words even if I am just a silly woman who shouldn't be bothering her pretty little head with all this important bible stuff.

      May 23, 2012 at 2:38 am |
    • Mennoknight

      Bet,
      Sorry, but you are seriously over reacting to what you read, but then of course it is easy to read into things online.

      I will then go back to my starting point of Bible study for you then anyway. Start again by reading Luke / Acts and look at how does Jesus and the disciples treat people. But read it again in one sitting the whole book of Luke then in one sitting the whole book of Acts. Read them out loud as they were actually intended to be done.
      The books speak for themselves.

      And yes, you did get better grades then I did. Oh well I am still much more humble than you are. 🙂

      May 23, 2012 at 10:12 am |
    • YeahRight

      "Oh well I am still much more humble than you are. "

      No you're not.

      May 23, 2012 at 10:57 am |
    • MennoKnight

      YeahRight,
      Oh yes I am, the most humble person to currently walk the Earth. How do I know? I won a medal that says so.
      As Weird Al said,

      "Think you're really righteous? Think you're pure in heart?
      Well, I know, I'm a million times as humble as thou art"

      So that proves it.

      Oh and I am humble because I chose to be. 😉

      May 23, 2012 at 11:24 am |
    • YeahRight

      "Oh and I am humble because I chose to be. ;)"

      The excuses people come up with to justify their unfounded prejudices is priceless.

      May 23, 2012 at 11:27 am |
    • Bet

      @ Menno

      Again, you have the unbridled arrogance to tell me how I'm feeling and how I should act. Along with shoving your bible at me again and telling me what to read, how much to read, and how to read it. I didn't read anything into it other than the words you wrote. You wrote that I don't understand christianity because I haven't read the book. That is an assumption you have no right to make, and one you're are completely wrong about.

      Do you not comprehend how offensive it is when you presume to tell me what I am thinking, what I know or don't know, what I've read and not read, and how I should think? It's not an overreaction to tell you that I don't appreciate you assuming you know what I'm thinking and feeling.

      You're far from humble, you choose arrogance and pride every time you put your fingers on the keyboard.

      May 23, 2012 at 11:49 am |
    • Bet

      @ YeahRight

      But he put the little smiley face there, so that makes it okay.

      May 23, 2012 at 1:04 pm |
    • MennoKnight

      Bet,
      I seriously believe you are reading into things I am saying that are not there. I am JOKING that I am the humblest person alive. Seriously. I quoted Weird Al, you know from Amish Paradise when he makes fun of Mennonites for thinking they are the most humble people alive yet are seriously not, but actually exactly the opposite.
      You are being way to sensitive and not willing to see any humor.

      Go back and look at what I am saying about the Bible. Choice, free will, this flies in the face that somebody must choose some sort of moral choice.

      Saying I chose the lifestyle I live is no arrogant. It is simply a fact.
      You chose your lifestyle too. That does not make you arrogant.

      I still don't get what you want! You read your bible and studied it. But if you don't understand free will then I don't think you read it and studied it well.
      That is my opinion, and just because it is different than yours does not make it arrogant. It makes is DIFFERENT.

      Stop taking things so serious and remember I am much more humble than you are.

      May 23, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • Bet

      Menno

      And you continue to focus on things I didn't say. Either you don't read very well or you choose to ignore what I have clearly stated.

      You quoted Weird Al, I get it, I got it the first time, and I'm a fan of his. I know the song. That is not why I say you are arrogant.

      You are arrogant because you continue to presume that you know much I've studied, how well I've studied, and whether I should or should not be offended by your ongoing assumptions about my intellect, my education, and my understanding of doctrine and free will. When confronted, you tell me I'm too sensitive and I'm overreacting.

      You state in one of your first posts to me that I don't understand christian doctrine because I haven't studied the bible. That statement was based on no evidence whatsoever. That is offensive. You have no right to assume you know what I think or what I've studied, yet you continue to do so.

      This is typical of my experiences with christians. When someone doesn't agree with you or challenges you, you tell them that they haven't read the bible, or that they haven't read it well enough. Who are you to decide that for me? Who are you to tell me that I should not be offended by your assumptions?

      So enough with blaming Weird Al for all this. You chose to presume things about me, and when I pointed out that you don't have that right, you chose to pretend that you were joking around. You weren't. That's a lie and you and I both know it.

      If this is how you choose to preach the bible, don't be surprised when it's not well received. As you said, when you make a choice, you live with the consequences of that choice.

      May 23, 2012 at 7:20 pm |
  9. us

    whats your pont tom tom

    the only thing you say is people are stupid and a waste of oxygen – that is your first amendment right

    May 22, 2012 at 11:38 pm |
    • Bet

      Try using the reply button. Works like a charm and then you aren't posting randomly.

      May 23, 2012 at 2:02 am |
  10. Doug Michaels

    An interesting take on another blog, which references this post.

    A fairly traditionally Christian interpretation, but more importantly argues for a more "Christlike" handling of the situation. A very thoughtful but long post.

    http://rebootchristianity.blogspot.com/2012/05/oh-what-heck-me-too-christianity.html

    May 22, 2012 at 11:32 pm |
  11. us

    all these folks talk about civil rights, how about the civil rights of all the women in the middle east and africa who get Female Genital Mutilation, vile, perverse, what about womens civil rights,

    May 22, 2012 at 11:29 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Well? What about them, you moronic waste of oxygen?

      May 22, 2012 at 11:30 pm |
    • mike

      I thank God for the freedom of speech we have in America. I choose to use my freedom to promote Christ, and I am glad that Al Mohler does too.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:31 pm |
    • us

      poor poor tom tom

      May 22, 2012 at 11:32 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Thanks for proving my point, us.

      God, you're stupid.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:33 pm |
    • jungleboo

      There you go, thinking those naughty thoughts. You Christians!

      OK, so that garbage is carried out by religious nut jobs too. Don't you GET the company you are in? We are attempting to guide this dear world of ours to become the kind of place where human minds and bodies are not mutilated by elders wielding knives and books. What, pray tell, is so bad about that?

      Religion is child abuse. Plain and simple. And abused children carry into their adulthood all manner of vile outlooks for which they are not responsible, which they are condemned to deal with in their everyday lives. Suffering, generation after generation.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:38 pm |
  12. mike

    Christians have just as much right to share their views as others. Don't read if you don't like

    May 22, 2012 at 11:27 pm |
    • JOregon

      Christians are not to point out the sins of those in the secular world.

      Luke 6:37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

      Jesus was the hardest on the religious hypocrites. Churches such as the SBC are hypocrites. They speak out against Gays, but attempt to put God's blessing on adultery.
      They use their churches to marry people that have previously divorced their spouse.

      Mark 10:11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.
      Mark 10:12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

      There is a lot of money to be made in the wedding business.
      A Christian is to correct fellow Christians – I am a Christian.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:33 pm |
    • mike

      Joregon, please read 1 Corinthians 2:15. We can judge whether or not cultural practice is consistent with Scriptural ethics, we are expected to make those sorts of judgments all the time, But we are not to condemn or judge individuals.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:39 pm |
    • jungleboo

      Talk your religious talk in church or in your home or in your head. If you go out trying to be a "fisher of men", whatever the H that is, then you will get your words criticized, because they actually do not belong in a public venue. So sorry you have been taught otherwise, and you're just going to have to deal with it. And stay out of the legal system where my rights are concerned.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:43 pm |
    • JOregon

      1 Corinthians was addressed to the Church at Corinth, the body of believers.
      In 1 Corinthians you have a church whose members are doing some improper things.

      1 Corinthians 5:1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife.

      We can't tell somebody that they do something wrong when they don't see it as wrong and don't feel it as wrong.

      1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

      Those that focus on the gay issues turn people away from the gospel, they work against Christ.
      I don't know about you but sometimes I get a bit defensive when someone tells me I am doing something the wrong way or behaving improperly. When you come up to someone that doesn't feel they are doing any harm, they don't hurt others, and they do what feels right to them and you say, According to the bible what you do is wicked and vile". You WILL make them hate the bible and Jesus.

      1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.

      When you judge someone that has not claimed Christ you are judging before the time.
      We are to judge those WITHIN the church not outside the church.

      1 Corinthians 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
      1 Corinthians 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

      God is the Judge, not you or me or Mr Mohler.

      May 23, 2012 at 12:36 am |
    • Bet

      No one cares what you believe. Just quit trying to deny others their civil rights based on your religious convictions.

      May 23, 2012 at 12:54 am |
  13. pletcherdiy

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  14. us

    and Jesus said "follow me and II will make you fishers of men"

    May 22, 2012 at 11:06 pm |
    • jungleboo

      If you can't see how creepy that is, then you are exactly what He is looking for. Shame He didn't say 'Teachers of men'. That might have bored you though, what with the responsibility and all. Easier just to laze on the riverbank and snare unsuspecting swimmers with your baited hook. Glad you have revealed yourself as completely gullible. But appearing so is part of that whole game, isn't it?

      May 22, 2012 at 11:13 pm |
    • A Frayed Knot

      us,

      That guy came up with some pretty lame analogies.

      For what purpose does a fisherman catch fish?
      - For money or for dinner.

      For what purpose does a shepherd take good care of his sheep?
      - For money or for dinner.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:17 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      yeah let go fishing down at the

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulPgWVC08KI

      May 22, 2012 at 11:36 pm |
  15. Brampt

    Romans 1:26,27 clearly says that " ...females changed their natural use of themselves into one contrary to nature and like wise the males... Became violently inflamed in their lust toward one another, males with males, working what is obscene..."

    May 22, 2012 at 11:02 pm |
    • jungleboo

      We are fascinated that you pore through these Babble verses, imagining the flaming lust as the words float before your eyes. It is a sorry thing to observe. If you allowed yourself just a hint of real passion, you might come to your senses. Really.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:07 pm |
    • Douglas

      Brampt,
      Good point.
      The explosion of STDs is coincident with those plowing into the alimentary canal
      with appendages that have no business being there. This is what Paul was talking about
      when he described it as "working the obscene".
      Thanks for clarifying this for the audience.
      There is still time to repent from these unspeakable acts that are a public health crisis.
      Please...stop before it is too late.
      Thanks,
      Douglas

      May 22, 2012 at 11:08 pm |
    • JOregon

      Romans 1 was not written to the secular world.

      Romans 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

      The people that knew God were the Jews, they were his people.
      CNN is not a good forum for discussing this in depth.
      No where in the bible are Christians told to point out the sins of those in the secular world.
      EVERY time Ho-mos-exuality is mentioned it is in relationship to the body of believers.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:22 pm |
    • jungleboo

      Excellent Douglas!1 Thank you for reinforcing my point about fundy fantasies. Human behavior has ALWAYS included all kinds of vivid bodily activity. The results have ALWAYS been everything from fabulous to heartbreaking. Disease is nothing new to the world. It part of the trip, and it is prudent to take precautions, but not the precaution of living like a dead man. According to the Children's Aid Society, in 1850, there were 30,000 unwanted children on the streets of NYC. They were probably conceived and cast off by straight people, don't you think? Some of whom were pretty diseased, yes? The Orphan Train was created to move these foundlings out into the Midwest to work on farms. Life is messy. But the prurient interest you take in loading up fright for others to balk at, well, you're just as sick as they come. But your face is calm. Neat trick.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:26 pm |
    • YeahRight

      'Romans 1:26,27 clearly says that " ...females changed their natural use of themselves into one contrary to nature and like wise the males"

      Now be a good Christian and read 23 they were worshiping a pagan god using sex, that was part of Roman culture. It has NOTHING TO DO with what we now know and understand about the loving long term committed relationship of a gay. couple. Only prejudice bigots cherry pick like that. Part of reading comprehension 101 is you put the scriptures into historical context. Duh!

      May 23, 2012 at 11:02 am |
    • YeahRight

      "The explosion of STDs is coincident with those plowing into the alimentary canal"

      You are so full of crap the straight community has far more STD than the gay community and straights have the same kind of sex! Duh!

      May 23, 2012 at 11:03 am |
  16. Spinner49

    Well, if it was up to Paul, we'd still have slaves. So the question still stands......

    May 22, 2012 at 10:58 pm |
    • bren222

      hm, please show me where paul supports people taking slaves

      May 22, 2012 at 11:06 pm |
  17. Gary

    Allah Akbar! (he says as he flies the plane into the World Trade Center in the name of God)

    May 22, 2012 at 10:55 pm |
  18. Douglas

    In Matthew 19 Jesus defines marriage as the union of one man and one woman.
    No ambiguity there.
    That settles it!
    Best,
    Douglas

    May 22, 2012 at 10:52 pm |
    • sybaris

      If you want to take direction from mythological characters, knock yourself out but leave it at that and keep it out of our civil rights.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:59 pm |
    • Gary

      You have a biased interpretation of that passage in Matthew 19:4: "‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh." This does nothing in the way of excluding same-gender relationships. Jesus was speaking of divorce when asked about it by the Pharisees, not whether same-gender relationships were lawful. Of course Jesus would not discuss same-gender relationships in circa 30 A.D., because it just wasn't something that he would have discussed. And furthermore, you say "Jesus defines ...", when what you really mean is "the person who wrote that verse in that book which was decades after the event actually happened, and then was copied by fallible people and translated by fallible people says, "such and such." Anything written two thousand years ago was undoubtedly influenced by the particular world-view of the time. The Bible is not the verbatim word of God. God did not come to Earth and say, "hear my words and take dictation."

      May 22, 2012 at 11:05 pm |
    • JOregon

      However, since the United States is a SECULAR Nation what the bible says about marriage is irrelevant.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:25 pm |
    • Doodle Lady

      @sybaris How are you so sure The Bible is mythical? Were you there? Faith is not seeing, and believing. The Bible is one of our oldest history books. The point this article makes is "Let he here who is without sin cast the first stone"...but remember still what The Bible teaches us. I have a hard time believing everything I read when my logic dictates. Jesus was definitely a prophet who walked among men, and tried to teach us to love one another, and give us some "Good Orderly Direction" to live by, and if you live the best you can this way, bearing in mind we are sinful. then you should die with a pretty clean conscience.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:55 pm |
    • Bet

      Doodle

      The bible is not a history book. It's a book about talking animals, people who live to be 500 years old, plants that burn and talk, walls that fall when a trumpet blows in a city that archeological evidence says is nowhere near where the bible claims, dead people rising back to life, rocks that spurt water when you hit them, unicorns, dragons, girls getting their father drunk and sleeping with him, water walking, killing babies and pregnant women, and a bet between an imaginary sky god and a horned "fallen angel" that results in an innocent man losing his family, his health, and his property.

      May 23, 2012 at 12:14 am |
    • Tebby

      @bet

      When you are told to look at a WHITE shirt with some black tiny dots on it, you will say that the color of the shirt is BLACK, I bet!

      May 23, 2012 at 3:49 am |
    • Get Real

      The Bible is a book which includes *some* history of primitive Hebrew culture, and *some* good advice for practical, beneficial human behavior, but mostly it is a compilation of ancient Middle Eastern historical fiction, myth, legend, superst.ition and fantasy.

      There is not a whit of verified evidence for any of the supernatural beings and events in that book.

      May 23, 2012 at 4:00 am |
    • Real as it gets

      The bible is not a history book for *some*. It's a book about *some* talking animals, *some* people who live to be 500 years old, *some* plants that burn and talk, *some* walls that fall when a trumpet blows in a city that archeological evidence says is nowhere near where the bible claims, *some* dead people rising back to life, *some* rocks that spurt water when you hit them, unicorns, dragons, girls acting like gays getting their father drunk and sleeping with him, water walking, proper discipline for children and protecting pregnant women, and a bet between a one true God and a horned "fallen angel" with his atheist minions that results in an innocent man losing his family, his health, and his property but latter gain them back in a thousand fold by the grace of our one LOVING God.

      May 23, 2012 at 4:28 am |
    • Get Real

      I repeat: There is not a whit of verified evidence for any of the supernatural beings and events in that book.

      May 23, 2012 at 4:39 am |
    • INC

      @JOregon

      That was very brave claim and you seemed so sure about it. But the million dollar question. Can you prove it?

      Let me tell you something, so please listen that you may be guided back to your senses. This is for your own good, PROMISE!

      This "nation is under God"; "In God we Trust" is printed in our currency; White House holds morning prayers; Elected officials and people in courts are made sworn on the bible and made to mention "So help me God" at the end. And last but not the least..."ATHEISTS" make up only 1-2% of the worlds poulace.

      May 23, 2012 at 4:58 am |
    • Real as it gets

      And there's nothing to nulliify it other than your utter unbelief.

      May 23, 2012 at 5:42 am |
    • Bet

      @ as real as it gets

      I think you missed the point. None of those things are real. Well, except the girls and the drunk guy, I guess that *does* happen. But those girls and that drunk guy aren't real. It's all fiction.

      No burning bushes, no talking snakes, no devil, no god. It's all a lie.

      May 23, 2012 at 6:00 am |
    • Bet

      @ tebby

      Why do you say that? Because I don't believe in your imaginary friends and your book of fantasies?

      May 23, 2012 at 6:02 am |
    • Bet

      @ as real as it gets

      So your "loving" god kills a man's entire family to just prove a point, and replaces the family with a new one when he wins the bet? And you're just fine with that? You can't "replace" a family and money isn't everything.

      Your god sounds like a first class jerk.I don't need that kind of "love" in my life.

      May 23, 2012 at 6:08 am |
    • Bet

      @ INC

      You do realize that "under god" was added to the pledge of allegiance in 1954 after a campaign but the Knights of Columbus, and "in god we trust" began appearing on coins in 1864 and on paper currency in 1957, don't you?

      And it doesn't matter if there are .001% or 99% atheists, everyone, you, me and the gay couple next door, deserve the same civil rights under the law. Just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean can decide what my civil rights are.

      May 23, 2012 at 6:19 am |
    • Bet

      @ real as gas gets

      "And there's nothing to nulliify it other than your utter unbelief."

      You can believe anything you want to. Just don't try to force it on everyone else.

      May 23, 2012 at 6:22 am |
    • Real as it gets

      @B(i)et(ch)

      Scroll-up to the original poster and read again all my comments and tell me where did I state, stipulate or insinuate denial of your civil rights.

      And please do it using that half quark-sized thing inside your vegetigial cranium.

      May 23, 2012 at 6:58 am |
    • INC

      Bet

      First and foremost, I was NOT talking to you but to JOregon. But since we're on the net and in a forum, you are free to butt-in anytime you like. However, you should have at least take a lil time to read and understand what I/we are talking about before you let your mouth dribbles.

      Yes, I know and they weren't there until those dates you've mentioned. But it doesn't take away the fact that they are still there until now.

      I even didn't make any claim about what this nation is but JOregon. Those things I mentioned were meant to let him/her/it realize that what is going on around him/her/it didn't support his/her/its BLATANT claims. And it's necessary that what you claim must be supported by what is happening in real life, otherwise, it is considered as a LIE and could be a BLATANT one.

      With regards to "the same civil rights", you must realize that we, straight men are only allowed to marry ONLY straight women even IF we desire and mutually agreed to marry another straight men. So where's the inequality with that?

      And numbers really matter. Get it over with!

      May 23, 2012 at 8:08 am |
    • INC

      "So your "loving" god kills a man's entire family to just prove a point"

      You don't really read the entire story of Job, do you?

      OR

      Or you did but that's how shallow your half quark-sized brain could grasp.

      May 23, 2012 at 8:19 am |
    • Real as it gets

      @B(i)et(ch)

      "You can believe anything you want to. Just don't try to force it on everyone else."

      Oh no, I've never point an automatic pistol to anybody's head just to believe what I do.

      But anyway, there's no much big deal if your cranium will shatter into pieces. There's nothing will scatter, full size quarks as sub-atomic particle is quite invisible with the naked eye, how much more the half of it. And it's (your cranium) vestigial anyway.

      May 23, 2012 at 8:28 am |
    • Tebby

      Bet

      "Why do you say that? Because I don't believe in your imaginary friends and your book of fantasies?"

      Nope, I said it just to let you know how distorted the way you perceive things.

      May 23, 2012 at 8:38 am |
    • JOregon

      The Treaty of Tripoli makes it very clear.
      Translated by Joel Barlow in 1796. It was sent to the floor of the Senate in 1797. It was read out loud, and unanimously approved. John Adams, signed it.
      The intent of our founding fathers is very clear.
      Under Article 11:
      “As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; ...”
      This was the intent of our founding fathers.
      Adams was the first Vice President of the US. He was the second President of the United States.
      He was one of the committee of 5 that drafted the Declaration of Independence.
      If he signs a doc*ument saying the United States was not founded on the Christian Religion you can believe it.

      May 23, 2012 at 8:38 am |
    • YeahRight

      'Bible is one of our oldest history books."

      The bible has been proven not to be an historical document by the experts..

      May 23, 2012 at 11:04 am |
    • Bet

      "@B(i)et(ch)

      Scroll-up to the original poster and read again all my comments and tell me where did I state, stipulate or insinuate denial of your civil rights.

      And please do it using that half quark-sized thing inside your vegetigial cranium."

      Nice ad hominem argument there. The point of this whole discussion is the denial of civil rights to gay couples. Didn't you read the good reverend's ode to bigotry at the top of the page?

      Feel free to call me a bee itch though. It shows how christians react to any challenge to their way of (not) thinking.

      May 23, 2012 at 11:56 am |
    • Bet

      "INC
      Bet

      First and foremost, I was NOT talking to you but to JOregon. But since we're on the net and in a forum, you are free to butt-in anytime you like. However, you should have at least take a lil time to read and understand what I/we are talking about before you let your mouth dribbles.

      Yes, I know and they weren't there until those dates you've mentioned. But it doesn't take away the fact that they are still there until now.

      I even didn't make any claim about what this nation is but JOregon. Those things I mentioned were meant to let him/her/it realize that what is going on around him/her/it didn't support his/her/its BLATANT claims. And it's necessary that what you claim must be supported by what is happening in real life, otherwise, it is considered as a LIE and could be a BLATANT one.

      With regards to "the same civil rights", you must realize that we, straight men are only allowed to marry ONLY straight women even IF we desire and mutually agreed to marry another straight men. So where's the inequality with that?

      And numbers really matter. Get it over with!"

      Yes, I do have the right to express my opinion. And you have the right to call it mouth dribbles. What's your point?

      The god references were forced on us by religious organizations and have no proper place on our currency, in our government buildings or in any oath of office. Just because "they're there now" doesn't make them right. Slavery was once "there", denial of women's right to vote was once "there". That was changed, and rightly so.

      Consenting adults should be allowed to marry without regard to gender. Until that happens, there's inequality.

      And no, it doesn't matter if there's one or one million people involved, discrimination is wrong. If there was only one black slave it's as wrong as when there were thousands.

      But thanks for all the nice things you said about me personally. It illustrates perfectly how a bigot responds to any challenge to the status quo.

      May 23, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
    • Bet

      "Real as it gets
      @B(i)et(ch)

      "You can believe anything you want to. Just don't try to force it on everyone else."

      Oh no, I've never point an automatic pistol to anybody's head just to believe what I do.

      But anyway, there's no much big deal if your cranium will shatter into pieces. There's nothing will scatter, full size quarks as sub-atomic particle is quite invisible with the naked eye, how much more the half of it. And it's (your cranium) vestigial anyway."

      Great argument there. Logical fallacy at its best. Don't address the issue, attack the person. Good work.

      May 23, 2012 at 12:25 pm |
    • Bet

      "Tebby
      Bet

      "Why do you say that? Because I don't believe in your imaginary friends and your book of fantasies?"

      Nope, I said it just to let you know how distorted the way you perceive things."

      Says the person believes in imaginary friends and expects everyone else to believe in them too.

      Thanks for telling me what I think though. Did your fairy sky god share his super duper magic mind reading powers with you?

      May 23, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
    • Real as it gets

      "You can believe anything you want to. Just don't try to force it on everyone else."

      Oh no, I've never point an automatic pistol to anybody's head just to believe what I do.

      But anyway, there's no much big deal if your cranium will shatter into pieces. There's nothing will scatter, full size quarks as sub-atomic particle is quite invisible with the naked eye, how much more the half of it. And it's (your cranium) vestigial anyway."

      Great argument there. Logical fallacy at its best. Don't address the issue, attack the person. Good work.

      ------------------------

      @B(i)et(ch)

      My issue here was your post that I quoted("You can believe anything you want to. Just don't try to force it on everyone else.") and I properly addressed it with my statement below it(Oh no, I've never point an automatic pistol to anybody's head just to believe what I do.)

      So, I did addressed the issue. It so happen that it's either you're really good at cherry picking OR Tebby was right, your perspective is too distorted that you only see things in the negative side.

      It's either, you pick or just saw the ridicules that you perfectly deserve likewise suits you best.

      And NOPE! I'll never directly call you a bítch, you don't deserve such luxury to be called one bcoz, it's damn OBVIOUS,.............you're a Q.U.E.E.R!

      May 24, 2012 at 7:53 am |
    • Tebby

      Bet

      In case that you don't don't grow a brain yet to get what I mean, I just wanted to say that few or several spots don't make a white shirt black. In other words some flaws you may have seen on a thing doesn't necessarily make that thing bad. In short, there always be POSSIBILITIES!

      And what did you say? "Says the person believes in imaginary friends and expects everyone else to believe in them too."?

      What is that, a HYPOCRITICAL guess?(atheist's version of "hypothetical guess") Even if I do believe in anything, I could care less if somebody else will believe it or not.

      May 24, 2012 at 8:16 am |
    • Bet

      Challenge accepted, Tebby. You've just proved my point with your own example.

      Reality depends on perspective. Let's say that the white shirt with black spots is lying on the bed, and I suffer from tunnel vision. I can only see a small part of the shirt at a time. I look and see a black area. So I say the shirt is black. Am I right? To me, I am, because my vision is limited to only one small view. But, if happen to see a white part instead, I'll say it's white. Again, am I right? To me, I am, because my vision is limited. Is my view reality? No, because there is more to the shirt than what I am capable of seeing. So I put on a pair of glasses and behold, the shirt is still a shirt, but it is black and white, each distinct and separate, but which make up the whole.

      Now, let's say I see that the shirt indeed has black parts and white parts, but I don't like white. So I cut the white part out. Do I still have a shirt? No. I've cut part of it off simply because I dislike it, and I've ruined the shirt.

      When you view the world only through the bible, you see one view of the world through the eyes of an ancient book, written by people who had a very limited view of the world as a whole. You are like the person looking at the shirt with tunnel vision. You only see a tiny part because that's all you are capable of seeing. If you were to step back with an open mind (or correct vision, in the case of the tunnel vision impaired person), and view the world through science and reason, which can be proved, your perspective changes. You see that there are many ways of living in this world, your view and other's views and together they make up humanity. You see how things really are, not just your myopic view through one unproved book.

      So you look at the world through your bible, and you cut out (legislate against) gay people, muslims, atheists, gingers, people who pick their noses, whatever. You've done an injustice to humanity simply because you don't like them.

      The whole of humanity is a lot more diverse than the perspective of it in the bible. Passing laws to limit the rights of those who don't fall into that narrow perspective is unjust.

      May 24, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
    • Bet

      @ real as it gets

      No, you didn't address the issue. You made a silly statement disparaging my intellect and my character. But I just love when you said:

      "And NOPE! I'll never directly call you a bítch, you don't deserve such luxury to be called one bcoz, it's damn OBVIOUS,.............you're a Q.U.E.E.R!"

      Actually, I'm a hetero woman and have been married to a man for more than thirty years. So much for your wonderful powers of observation.

      Keep up the good work.

      May 24, 2012 at 2:33 pm |
    • Real as it gets

      "Actually, I'm a hetero woman and have been married to a man for more than thirty years. So much for your wonderful powers of observation."

      And I'm Clarck Kent and happily married to Louise Lane.

      LOL!

      And you ain't have that somethin to be disparage. So an honest advice for you pal...

      QUIT, Flattering yourself!

      May 25, 2012 at 4:35 am |
    • Tebby

      Bet

      The only point you've trying you make based on your post and replies on this thread was bible is not true and written by ancient, blah...blah...blah...Hence, I wonder how my (black & white) example has proved it? And how it happened that the person looking at the shirt with tunnel vision becomes me? When it was exactly what I have been to telling you here, otherwise, asking you to see things in larger/wider perspective.

      To be able to truly grasp the inherent message of my (black & white) example, you need to have a lil knowledge or background in Psychology or any Behavioural/Social Science. And as far as your latest reply is concerned, you apparently lacked all of it.

      Your introductory statement exictes me was breathtaking, the rest was waste of oxygen. I am VERY disappointed!

      May 25, 2012 at 5:55 am |
    • Bet

      @ real as it gets

      Yawn, that all you've got? Neener, neener, nanner boo boo? Jesus is crying with embarrassment that you claim to be a christian.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:54 pm |
    • Bet

      @ lepper

      You accused me of having a distorted view. I simply pointed out that, by only looking at the world through only one book, the bible, you are the one with a distorted view. You can't help it, it's all you know.

      I have degrees in Psychology and Behavioral Sciences, as well as Education, General Sciences and a Masters in Biotechnology. I graduated with honors.

      Neener neener neener.

      May 25, 2012 at 1:01 pm |
    • Bet

      Edited to say "@Tebby"

      May 25, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
    • Tebby

      "I have degrees in Psychology and Behavioral Sciences, as well as Education, General Sciences and a Masters in Biotechnology. I graduated with honors."

      And I'm Batman. LOL!

      How many inches your thick skin had gone up to?

      May 26, 2012 at 4:51 am |
    • Tebby

      Bet is getting dweeber and dweeber and dweeber....................YAWN.

      May 26, 2012 at 9:54 am |
    • Bet

      And you haven't done anything but act like a petulant child. You've contributed nothing to the discussion but name calling and denigrating comments. You've done nothing to show that you actually practice your christian values. You're a poor example of living a christian life and have probably driven more people away from christianity than you've helped.

      Your best argument is calling me a dweeb. Good job.

      May 26, 2012 at 11:53 am |
  19. howard Dao

    Why does the Almighty needs Soldiers ??

    May 22, 2012 at 10:47 pm |
    • sybaris

      or a humans wife to reproduce itself?

      May 22, 2012 at 11:00 pm |
    • Kirk

      What does god need with a starship?

      May 23, 2012 at 12:37 am |
    • AtheismIsCrap

      Why do atheists not need a crap? Because they're already full of it.

      May 23, 2012 at 3:59 am |
  20. us

    @bet – gotcha, baited and hooked

    May 22, 2012 at 10:44 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Says the dolt who can't even figure out how to use the "reply" function.

      Really, honey, get a new hobby. You suck at this one.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:51 pm |
    • jungleboo

      This is Christian talk. Baited and hooked. Freaks.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:52 pm |
    • us

      post something then – Tom Tom, or do you not know how, ahhhhh poor baby – the only thing you know how to do is reply
      does baby need a bottle

      May 22, 2012 at 11:01 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Nice job confirming my point, us.

      Are you just stupid, or do you have an excuse?

      May 22, 2012 at 11:04 pm |
    • Bet

      I'd be glad to respond if I knew what the heck you were talking about.

      May 23, 2012 at 12:22 am |
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