My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality
The author writes that it's fine for Christians to take certain biblical condemnations seriously while ignoring others.
May 21st, 2012
10:00 AM ET

My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality

Editor's Note: R. Albert Mohler Jr. is president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, the flagship school of the Southern Baptist Convention and one of the largest seminaries in the world.

By R. Albert Mohler Jr., Special to CNN

Are conservative Christians hypocritical and selective when it comes to the Bible’s condemnation of homosexuality? With all that the Bible condemns, why the focus on gay sex and same-sex marriage?

Given the heated nature of our current debates, it’s a question conservative Christians have learned to expect. “Look,” we are told, “the Bible condemns eating shellfish, wearing mixed fabrics and any number of other things. Why do you ignore those things and insist that the Bible must be obeyed when it comes to sex?”

On its face, it’s a fair question. But it can be posed in two very different ways.

First, the question can be asked to suggest that the Bible’s clear condemnation of sexual sins can simply be set aside. The other way of posing the question represents a genuine attempt to understand how the Bible is to be rightly applied to life today.

In truth, those asking the question the first way really don’t want an answer.

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An honest consideration of the Bible reveals that most of the biblical laws people point to in asking this question, such as laws against eating shellfish or wearing mixed fabrics, are part of the holiness code assigned to Israel in the Old Testament. That code was to set Israel, God’s covenant people, apart from all other nations on everything from morality to diet.

As the Book of Acts makes clear, Christians are not obligated to follow this holiness code. This is made clear in Peter’s vision in Acts 10:15. Peter is told, “What God has made clean, do not call common.”

In other words, there is no kosher code for Christians. Christians are not concerned with eating kosher foods and avoiding all others. That part of the law is no longer binding, and Christians can enjoy shrimp and pork with no injury to conscience.

The Bible’s commands on sexual behavior, on the other hand, are continued in the New Testament. When it comes to homosexuality, the Bible’s teaching is consistent, pervasive, uniform and set within a larger context of law and Gospel.

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The Old Testament clearly condemns male homosexuality along with adultery, bestiality, incest and any sex outside the covenant of marriage. The New Testament does not lessen this concern but amplifies it.

The New Testament condemns both male and female homosexual behavior. The Apostle Paul, for example, points specifically to homosexuality as evidence of human sinfulness. His point is not merely that homosexuals are sinners but that all humanity has sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

The New Testament condemns a full range of sexual sins, and homosexuality is specified among these sins. In Romans, Paul refers to homosexuality in terms of “dishonorable passions,” “contrary to nature” and “shameless.” As New Testament scholar Robert Gagnon has stated, the Bible’s indictment “encompasses every and any form of homosexual behavior.”

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Some people then ask, “What about slavery and polygamy?” In the first place, the New Testament never commands slavery, and it prizes freedom and human dignity. For this reason, the abolitionist movement was largely led by Christians, armed with Christian conviction.

The Old Testament did allow for polygamy, though it normalizes heterosexual monogamy. In the New Testament, Jesus made clear that marriage was always meant to be one man and one woman.

“Have you not read that He who created them made them male and female?” Jesus asked in Matthew. "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.” For this reason, Christians have opposed polygamy on biblical grounds.

Why are Christians so concerned with homosexuality? In the first place, that question is answered by the simple fact that it is the most pressing moral question of our times. Christians must be concerned about adultery, pornography, injustice, dishonesty and everything the Bible names as sin. But when my phone rings with a call from a reporter these days, the question I am asked is never adultery or pornography. It is about homosexuality.

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Christians who are seriously committed to the authority of the Bible have no choice but to affirm all that the Bible teaches, including its condemnation of homosexuality. At the same time, our confidence is that God condemns those things that will bring his human creatures harm and commands those things that will lead to true human happiness and flourishing.

In other words, we understand that the Bible condemns all forms of sin because our Creator knows what is best for us. The Bible names sins specifically so that each of us will recognize our own sinfulness and look to Christ for salvation and the forgiveness of our sins.

Christian love requires that we believe and teach what the Bible teaches and that we do so with both strong conviction and humble hearts. The Church must repent of our failures in both of these tasks, but we must not be silent where the Bible speaks.

Are Christians hypocrites in insisting that homosexual behavior is sin? We, too, are sinners, and hypocrisy and inconsistency are perpetual dangers.

The church failed miserably in the face of the challenge of divorce. This requires an honest admission and strong corrective.

At the same time, this painful failure must remind us that we must not fail to answer rightly when asked what the Bible teaches about homosexuality. Love requires us to tell the truth.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of R. Albert Mohler Jr.

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Filed under: Bible • Christianity • Gay marriage • Opinion

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    See, this is why I enjoy the company of Wiccan people (and there's PLENTY of them here in Los Angeles). They don't push their belief off onto others.

    May 24, 2012 at 8:45 pm |

      Actually, I shouldn't limit it. Anybody in the New Age community, as well.

      May 24, 2012 at 8:49 pm |
  2. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    May 24, 2012 at 8:13 pm |
    • Bet

      I'm praying that you'll stop posting this.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:17 am |
  3. The Master's Slave

    Reblogged this on The Master's Slave.

    May 24, 2012 at 7:33 pm |

      Oh, cool! Is that a BDSM website? Got pics of hot chicks bound and gagged?

      May 24, 2012 at 7:36 pm |
  4. Gman

    n8263, bet, ect...; when you die and go before god , it's like going to court.

    you go into a courtrm and say i am a sinner i haved sinned. then jesus comes along and says i will
    goto to court for you and take your punishment. the judge looks at jesus and knowing what he did on the
    cross says , " all charges against you have been dropped " , if you go to court and you try to
    defend yourself, the judge would say under the law your guilty and sentence you. you have nothing
    to pay for your sin. it doesn't matter what sin it is, being gay or not doesn't matter , no one can stand
    in gods holy court but christ.

    Christ will go to court on judgment day for anyone who ask of him. It's that simple.

    John 3:16 .

    May 24, 2012 at 6:50 pm |
    • Nope

      No, you're spouting ridiculous nonsense.

      May 24, 2012 at 7:07 pm |

      Next on TMZ: We've got Gman with Charlie Sheen throwin' down at the Mustang Ranch.

      May 24, 2012 at 7:20 pm |

      I think I mis-posted this, so I'll repeat it for Gman's benefit.
      Gman, you know who James Van Praagh is? He's a psychic who speaks clairaudiently with the dead. I've run into and spoken with him over the years because I have friends who worked on Ghost Whisperer, on which he was the consultant. He says the afterlife is nothing like that. And he should know, he speaks to, and for, the dead enough.

      May 24, 2012 at 7:28 pm |

      Gman needs to get out, go see The Avengers or something, and divert his mind from "God this, Jesus that." Or would that be a sin?

      May 24, 2012 at 7:51 pm |

      John 3:16
      Christian Bale 3:10 To Yuma

      Notice Gman shuts down now? Especially when something is said that's beyond his little bitty sphere of experience?

      May 24, 2012 at 9:01 pm |
    • Bet

      I'm not too worried. There's no god, no heaven, no hell, no big courtroom in the sky. There's not one whit of evidence to support any of your beliefs. Not even the bible. It's a made up book intended to control people. Jesus is dead and buried. He didn't rise again. You're a dead man walking. Have a nice life, zombie.

      May 24, 2012 at 9:14 pm |

      Bet, wouldn't it be interesting if this entire Universe, which we perceive as vast and still expanding, was really an experiment in a lab? A lab like CERN?

      May 24, 2012 at 9:31 pm |

      You know, the Mormons believe that when we die, we don't go to a courtroom, we begin a new life on a planet named Kolob. Which was the basis for the planet Kobol on the original Battlestar Galactica. Which was created and executive produced by Glen A. Larson...a Mormon.

      May 24, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
    • Bet

      @ Galactica

      When I was in high school, my friend and I used to discuss the possibility that earth was just an electron on an atom, among bajillions of atoms, upon bajillions...etc.

      May 24, 2012 at 9:55 pm |

      My friends and I would discuss concepts in Star Trek. ST served as an inspiration for several of us to persue careers in science. 2001 helped, too. I was in college for 12 years and was hired at JPL. Then, I was asked to be a science advisor in Hollywood, and it escalated from there. Now, I make science fiction. Who knew?

      May 24, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Who knew such a commercial success would still be incapable of spelling "pursue"?

      Really, dude, don't get a big head. You ain't that special.

      May 24, 2012 at 10:17 pm |

      Tom, are you typing on a phone with an over-sensitive virtual keyboard? Sh!t happens.

      May 24, 2012 at 11:07 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Funny. All real evidence indicates that when you die, you're dead. No trial, no heaven, no hell. Just the cessation of life. I bet that scares you more than hell.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:14 am |
  5. heywaitaminit

    Notice how he mentions all this stuff that is "in" the bible, yet never gives specific references. I could just as easily mention my favorite chili recipe is written in Ezekiel, although that would be citing a specific book, which is more specific than this guy is.

    May 24, 2012 at 6:11 pm |

      Gman, you know who James Van Praagh is? I've had occasion to talk with him because I have friends wh worked on the tv series Ghost Whisperer which he was a consultant on, and he says the afterlife is nothing like that. He should know, he's a psychic who speaks with, and for, the dead.

      May 24, 2012 at 7:04 pm |
  6. Dismissed

    Articles like this explain why the bible and its followers are losing their credibility. Common sense, reason, and tolerance rule!

    May 24, 2012 at 6:01 pm |
  7. Post-Baptist

    Even if you can't read what he says, all you have to do is look at his eyes. Trouble in the past; more trouble coming!

    May 24, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
  8. Davin

    no one truly follows the bible if they did this country would not have so much hate poverty and other detrimental things to society

    May 24, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      yup if people followed the bible there wouldn't be Christians,.there a determent to society

      May 24, 2012 at 5:24 pm |

      Nah, Sam, you know what's a REAL detriment to society? Midgets! They ruin everything! Lil' bug.gers!

      May 24, 2012 at 5:32 pm |

    Y'know, one of the things I'm taking away from this fourm is...it doesn't matter what civil laws say, it's Biblical canon that must be adhered to. With that in mind, considering there are many laws on the books on Federal, State, and Municipal levels that contradict Christian laws...should all civil laws that contradict Christian law be stricken from the books and perhaps be re-written (or dropped altogether) to align with Christian law? Should freedom of religion be re-structured to make Christianity the only religion practiced in the U.S.? Should all other religions be banned by law? Should attending church be mandatory? Should all forms of entertainment be made with a Christian slant?

    May 24, 2012 at 3:59 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      That was a lot of tarded statements all strung together.

      May 24, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
    • Tank

      And your comment just adds to it.

      May 24, 2012 at 4:09 pm |

      Honey Badger doesn't seem to have gotten the point I was trying to get across, but then, that's what happens when dealing with Sub-Genius minds. Christians seem to want America to be "for Christians, by Christians," and all other beliefs must be stricken down.

      May 24, 2012 at 4:15 pm |

      Bet, did you see any "tarded" statements in my post? Or am I truly dealing with Sub-Genius?

      May 24, 2012 at 4:20 pm |
    • Bet

      Add Amy Grant. She went commercial AND got divorced. Oh wait, christians don't care about divorce.

      May 24, 2012 at 4:21 pm |
    • Bet

      Oh shoot, the Amy Grant comment went into the wrong post.

      No, but I saw a "tarded" response.

      May 24, 2012 at 4:24 pm |

      And that doofus she originally married went off on Vince Gill on national television.

      May 24, 2012 at 4:28 pm |
    • Yeah Go Do it

      Amy Grant. Ouch. She's STILL smoking HOT.....and not a lesbian.............as far as we know....

      May 24, 2012 at 5:45 pm |

      Actually, she is! I'd hit that, except Vince Gill's in the way.

      May 24, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • Bet

      I saw her perform back when I was a born again. She's even more beautiful in person and has a wonderful voice.

      May 24, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
  10. Gman

    to the cnn moderators , you seem to moderate just what you please concerning christian thought. maybe
    god will moderate your name from his book of life also.

    May 24, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
    • Drew

      That was a nice one

      May 24, 2012 at 4:02 pm |

      And maybe you should get a life. You're worse than a Trekkie!

      May 24, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
    • Bet

      Oh, poor you. You're so persecuted.

      The CNN forums have an automated filter that boots out posts with certain words or parts of words automatically. You probably just had tagged word in it. It happens to me all the time, and as you know, you and I are on opposite sides of the fence.

      If you think that CNN has actual humans reading each and every post on each and every forum, and making value judgements about them, you are beyond stupid. It's an automated program, it doesn't have opinions.

      Feel free to massage your persecution complex though.

      May 24, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Bet, "Gman" is arrogant enough to believe that a being capable of creating the universe is actually paying attention to his every thought and will reward him with eternal life in a special paradise if he obeys certain, cherry-picked rules from the bible. It simply follows that Gman is arrogant enough to believe that CNN is trying to censor him.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:19 am |
    • Bet

      @ Tallulah

      You make an excellent point. I should know better than to think gman is aware of anything but church and the bible.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:37 am |
  11. Julie

    I guess some of who completely lead a life of foolishness and crazy might need to go the way of complete authority of the Bible. Just to bring it back in to normality.

    May 24, 2012 at 3:45 pm |
    • Drew

      The bible lifestyle espoused in the bible isn't exactly normal by any standards

      May 24, 2012 at 4:05 pm |

      That, of course, does not apply to Charlie Sheen.

      May 24, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
  12. onestarman

    Won't it be FUNNY when it Turns out to be the BIGOTS who GOD Won't Let Into heaven....

    May 24, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
    • jon

      Actually anyone that places the needs of the flesh ahead of that of the spirit will not make it into the kingdom of heaven. Which is 99.99 percent of the population.

      May 24, 2012 at 3:24 pm |

      @jon: Soooooooooooo, I take it you are one righteous holy man, never watch tv, never go to the movies, never play first-person shooter video games, never do anything FUN?

      May 24, 2012 at 3:46 pm |
    • Primewonk

      @ Jon – how nice. Your sick sadistic, psychotic, schizophrenic, puts of a god creates billions of people for the sole purpose of torturing them for all eternity.

      May 24, 2012 at 4:14 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Needs of the flesh above needs of the spirit?
      So the only people to get into heaven are those who don't eat, sleep, drink, phuk, defecate, urinate, bathe or pretty well do anything other than pray.
      Good to know.
      Quit living – start praying.

      May 24, 2012 at 4:16 pm |

      Doc, he's scoring brownie points for the afterlife.

      May 24, 2012 at 4:26 pm |
  13. ShawnDH

    Whether people think it's wrong according to their religion to be gay is not the problem. Fine, whatever. You believe the fairy tales and myths of ancient Middle Easterners are real. Fine. But when you use your religion to opress people and discriminate against them and steal their civil and human rights, it's a problem. You can be opposed to something not think it has to be ILLEGAL because of that; It's the foundation of FREEDOM and clearly many Christians have no concept of freedom, or the American values of liberty and justice for all and equality under the law.

    May 24, 2012 at 3:13 pm |

      When you disrespect someones religion do not expect your lifestyle to be respected. I respect your right of self destruction, I do do not respect you trying to destroy christian values referring to it as "fairy tales and myths of ancient Middle Easterners". Try not to be an uncivil a-hol and some might respect your civil union.

      May 24, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
    • No Dice

      Truth be Told — Not bloody likely. Hate is a powerful thing and it's the "American Taliban" that broaches no difference of opinion. If they want respect from non-believers, why, they just need to mind their own business and leave others alone.

      May 24, 2012 at 6:05 pm |
    • wayne

      The majority of the population has drawn a line in the sand. No laws that contradict our faith. Marriage will not erase the sin nor will bad mouthing our faith help your cause. Since marriage is more a religious ceremony than a civil one it does appear the real goal is to destroy it's religious valve. At least that's how enough people view your argument that your's is a lost cause.

      May 24, 2012 at 7:38 pm |
    • KTinCV

      Hate to break it to you wayne, it you bigots that are on the wrong side of history and will be rightly condemned for it in the future. And if it's "more a religious ceremony than a civil one" why is it that my tax rate changed when I got married? How come I automatically got rights concerning my wife in regards to seeing her in a hospital or making life and death decisions for her??? Enjoy your last hurrah of bigotry buddy.

      May 24, 2012 at 8:27 pm |

      @wayne: Go watch some tv. I hear The Big Bang Theory is on tonight.

      May 24, 2012 at 8:40 pm |
    • Bet

      Truth be told

      How are they disrespecting your religion? You're the ones sticking your noses into their bedrooms and trying to pass laws that discriminate against them.

      May 24, 2012 at 9:20 pm |
  14. Cindy

    Christians focus on gays because they want us to accept their lifestyle as normal when that is not what the Bible says and that is not what we believe. They need to quit shoving it down our throats.

    May 24, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
    • Not Buying It

      Would you be willing to quit shoving the Bible down our throats in return?

      May 24, 2012 at 2:47 pm |
    • myweightinwords

      If I might humbly suggest, LGBT people are not asking you to change your belief on what is "normal". If you believe that being gay is wrong, that is your belief and your opinion, and I see nothing wrong with that.

      However, I do not share that belief. I happen to believe that we are all human, all equal and we all deserve the right to pursue our happiness.

      No one is asking you to change your belief, only that your belief stop affecting my pursuit of happiness. (speaking metaphorically here, as I have no need or desire for marriage for myself).

      May 24, 2012 at 2:52 pm |

      Here are a couple religions who DON'T shove their views down people's gullets: Jewish, Buddhism, Taoism, Wicca, Druid, and, yes, Scientology.

      May 24, 2012 at 2:53 pm |
    • Jamie

      Nobody is forcing you to marry anyone you don't want to. You are forcing others to live by your belief system.

      If you are so determined to make everyone in our secular society follow biblical teachings, then why not fight to allow slavery again? Why not fight to allow polygamy? Why pick and choose?

      The lack of consistency makes you a hypocrite. Please get the log out of your own eye before worrying about the speck in others's eyes.

      May 24, 2012 at 2:56 pm |
    • jon

      Because of Sodom and Gamora, Christians don't want to have their country totally annihilated. Silly isn't it? lol

      May 24, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • Bet

      Oh, please. That's not true and you know it. Gay people don't care if you accept their lifestyle or not. They just want equal rights under the law.

      Feel free to nurse your martyr complex all you want though.

      May 24, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • Bet

      @ jon

      Yes, it is extremely silly. There's no proof that Sodom and Gomorrah (or Gamora, as you put it) ever existed, much less that god annihilated it and turned Lot's wife into a pillar of salt.

      Approving of "righteous genocide" is beyond immoral. Yet christians do approve of it when their god murders people in one of his many temper tantrums. Oh, but he's just being a loving father, right?

      May 24, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
    • boocat

      No...they just want to be treated like everyone else......and you're not a christian....you're a hatermongering fascist........you have no clue as to the meaning of christianity.

      May 24, 2012 at 3:35 pm |
    • Drew

      Jon, if America is slated by god to be destroyed, gay marriage wont make any difference; we are already a nation full of greedy, gluttonous, heard hearted hypocrites.

      May 24, 2012 at 4:04 pm |

      No one told the GLBT community to embrace christian values ........seeing that you are part of the GLBT community your off to a good start

      May 24, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
    • Bet

      Truth be told,

      Yes, you are expecting them to adhere to your christian values because you are trying to pass laws that deny them the same civil rights that you enjoy.

      And, not that it's any of your business, I'm a hetero woman who has been married to a man for over thirty years. So don't assume that you know the orientation of any of the poster here unless we tell you what it is.

      May 24, 2012 at 9:24 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Christians like you are doing their best to deny equal rights to a certain minority, Cindy. You simply lack the humanity to look beyond your bible and see the very real, decent people that your actions are hurting. Your behavior is immoral and bigoted and frankly unacceptable in a nation that is based on equality. Truth be told, there is more evidence to indicate that ho.mos.exuality is natural than there is proof of any god.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:27 am |
  15. myweightinwords

    An honest consideration of the Bible reveals that most of the biblical laws people point to in asking this question, such as laws against eating shellfish or wearing mixed fabrics, are part of the holiness code assigned to Israel in the Old Testament. That code was to set Israel, God’s covenant people, apart from all other nations on everything from morality to diet.

    While I will agree with the author that the laws of the OT are the religious law of the Jewish people, a code by which the ancient Jews sought to please their god, this is true of the entirety of this law, and not only those which speak to things which modern society dismisses.

    If this law, using the same language, condemns the wearing of mixed fabrics, the eating of shellfish and two men engaging in intercourse, then that law sees ALL of these actions the same. There is no difference between them.

    As the Book of Acts makes clear, Christians are not obligated to follow this holiness code. This is made clear in Peter’s vision in Acts 10:15. Peter is told, “What God has made clean, do not call common.”

    If the bible DID make this clear...if the bible made ANYTHING clear, there wouldn't be hundreds of denominations, sects, divisions and independents within Christianity. Alas, we are left to FIND the sense.

    Unfortunately, that is not as easy as we would like.

    Jesus is reported to have said that his coming did not erase the law, and that the law would stand until heaven and earth had passed. Peter is reported to have had a vision that says that Gentile converts are not required to keep the law.

    If the law about shellfish no longer applies, why then should the law on mixed fibers or two men having intercourse apply?

    If, in fact, that entire book of law was meant to call Israel out to be different and separate and not fall into the ways of her neighbors, and we are not Israel (and for many of us not Christian either), how then can we look to it for guidance at all?

    Jesus is also reported to have said to Love your Neighbor, to love your enemy, to not judge, to celebrate your faith in private, to see to your own stumbling blocks before you concern yourself with the sins of your brothers...

    May 24, 2012 at 2:32 pm |
    • dave

      Jesus was actually pretty slick. Remember when the people brought the adulteress to Him and asked if she should be stoned to death. This is the Jewish law (that is why Muslims love to kill women, they stole the idea from the Bible). Jesus did not want to contradict Jewish law and risk being called a blasphemer. So Jesus said: "Let he among you who is without sin cast the first stone."

      May 24, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
    • Bet

      He'd make an excellent politician. C

      May 24, 2012 at 11:30 pm |
  16. n8263

    @Gman, did you read Matthew 5:17-19? The text is below. There is no confusion, Jesus makes it very clear that the Mosaic Law stays in place.

    Matthew 5:17: Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

    18: For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

    19: Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

    May 24, 2012 at 2:19 pm |
    • n8263

      So by setting aside the Law and teaching others accordingly, you will be, and I quote Jesus here, "called least in the kingdom of heaven."

      Unless you uphold all those ridiculous rules you have no Biblical excuse to deny same sеx marriage as a civil right.

      May 24, 2012 at 2:21 pm |
    • Jamie


      May 24, 2012 at 2:48 pm |
    • Gman

      read GALATIANS 5:1-12 , and explain that passage to me if you can. circucision is of no value anymore.
      and drives a wedge between you and christ. explain what that means.
      try reading the whole book in context instead of taking 2 scriptures out of context.

      May 24, 2012 at 3:40 pm |
    • Bet


      Unlike the christian church, which completely ignores the teachings about divorce. No, they don't pick and choose what to enforce at all.

      May 24, 2012 at 4:17 pm |
    • n8263

      @Gman, all those verses in Galations you quoted on the previous page are talking about is what is needed for salvation. It never repeals the laws.

      Christians can murder millions of people like Hitler did and still have salvation, that does not mean Jesus is cool with mass murder.

      Did you read verses 18 and 19 above? Jesus made it very clear.

      May 24, 2012 at 7:32 pm |
  17. ElaineV


    May 24, 2012 at 2:07 pm |

      To what? And why?

      May 24, 2012 at 2:18 pm |

    List of people on the express elevator to Hell:
    Lady Gaga
    Ozzy Osbourne
    All the members of Slayer
    Justin Bieber
    Snoop Dogg
    The South Park guys
    The Family Guy guys
    Axl Rose
    The Robot Chicken guys.
    Bill Maher
    The Westboro Baptist Church
    Harvey Levin
    Richard Simmons
    Howard Stern
    Tila Tequila
    Every hair metal band
    And I haven't even scratched the surface.

    May 24, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • KillemAll

      The only hell that exists is to live with idiots that think there is an invisible man that will let them into an eternal Dinsneyland
      if they kiss its butt the right way. Pathetic sheep.

      May 24, 2012 at 2:06 pm |

      Just for the record, I was being ironic. So many good Christians blame the entertainment industry for turning people away from their Bible study classes.
      I only included The Westboro Baptist Church because those people are batsh!tcrazy!

      May 24, 2012 at 2:21 pm |

      Peter Griffin: So, Jesus, which religion should I follow?

      Jesus: Six of one, they're all complete crap.

      Brian Griffin (off-screen, camera-left): THANK YOU!

      May 24, 2012 at 2:27 pm |
    • boocat

      You can add me to your list.....BUT THERE IS NO HELL AND THERE IS NO HEAVEN.....lol!!!!

      May 24, 2012 at 3:33 pm |

      Oh, and Stryper is going to Hell because they turned away from Christian heavy metal to mainstream heavy metal.

      May 24, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Styper are goig to hell becuase they suck their own weight in @$$.

      May 24, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
    • Bet

      I guess that means U2 should go on the list. They started out as a Christian band as well. Poor Bono.

      May 24, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
    • Primewonk

      If you can, please kick the Biebster and Richard Simmons off your list, and replace them with Penn and Teller.

      Thank you in advance for your consideration.

      May 24, 2012 at 4:24 pm |

      Sorry, Penn and Teller are voices of reason. (At least one of them.)

      May 24, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
    • Sam Yaza


      May 24, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  19. William Simpson

    People today ceaselessly demand that Christians prove the existance of GOD. Well I do in my book which is free to download the ebook version. And throughout are examples of society and culture which the Bible expressly condemns and why, and written this way to make people rethink whatever their worldview might be. I have given irrefutable fact as to the reality of GOD in the person of Jesus Christ. Now the burdon of denial rests solely upon you.

    May 24, 2012 at 1:15 pm |

      Yeah, but I want God to appear in my office all bearded and glowy and sh!t, and yell, "Here I am! Can you introduce me to Betty White?"

      May 24, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
    • NotBuyingIt

      I'm not sure which is more ridiculous: the notion that you can prove that your god exists or the fact that you wrote a book about it. I guess you must have single handedly figured out what billions of other people have failed to do and in one fell swoop you have destroyed the entire idea of faith! That or you're utterly delusional...

      May 24, 2012 at 1:52 pm |
  20. Chris

    I think the worst part of this whole discussion is that this is all based on a book...no, a series of books written over many many years, by (assumed) straight men who at that time were at the seat of power in society and were looking for a way to control their society. It's a book, it's just a book. I mean it's so completely ridiculous. It's not some message carved into platinum that descended from heaven on the butts of an angel... It's paper, it's inherently not trustworthy. With dozens of versions and translations that don't even accurately capture many statements, how could anyone rationally think that this is what modern society needs? Nevermind attempting to use a simple book as a basis for condemning, capturing, and holding a segment of the population because they are slightly different. HIS truth is a joke. Take another look at your bible, if it's typeset and printed on white paper, it's a fake.

    May 24, 2012 at 1:03 pm |
    • Truth

      You are sooo confused. None of the New Testament writers were at the seat of any power. Quite the opposite, God made it a point that they were common people. More, these people controlled no one and gave up everything-what little they had–to preach the gospel. Saul, the only one that had any position within the Jewish religious order sacrificed his position to spread the glorious truth about God, and for that he was ultimately executed, as was Peter and many of the early church leaders. You can say and believe all you want to justify they way you want and choose to live, but please be intellectually honest enough to speak from a position of knowledge and not from your distorted opinion.

      May 24, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • Bet

      @ truth

      Let's be intellectually honest then. You have no idea who wrote those original texts because there are no copies of them. The first scrap of new testament text that has been validated is dated around 125 AD. It's in Greek and about the size of a credit card. It is supposed to contain John 18, but since there's no signature or author on it, you don't know who wrote it. You believe Saul and the apostles wrote it because that is what you have been told.

      They have, of course, been revised many times over the centuries. The revisions were done by wealthy, powerful white men, in order to promote their own agendas.

      May 24, 2012 at 3:07 pm |

      Truth, the writers of the gospels may not have been in positions of power, but those who decided what went into the Bible were. Namely, Emperor Constantine at the Council of Nicea. They decided MML&J were in, and all other gospels were thrown out (The Apocrypha).

      May 24, 2012 at 6:20 pm |
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