May 22nd, 2012
11:23 AM ET
Video of North Carolina pastor's plan to 'get rid of' gays goes viral
By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor
(CNN) - Video of a North Carolina pastor preaching that gays and lesbians should be rounded up inside an electric fence is going viral on the Internet, two weeks after North Carolina passed a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage and President Barack Obama voiced personal support for legalizing such marriages.
"I figured a way out, a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers, but I couldn't get it past the Congress," Pastor Charles L. Worley can be seen telling his Providence Road Baptist Church congregation in the video, which had more than 250,000 YouTube views by Tuesday.
"Build a great big, large fence - 50 or a 100 miles long - and put all the lesbians in there,” Worley went on to say in his May 13 sermon at his Maiden, North Carolina, church. “Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals, and have that fence electrified so they can't get out. Feed them. And you know in a few years, they'll die out. You know why? They can't reproduce."
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The video had initially been posted on Providence Road’s website but was recently taken down, according to CNN affiliate WBTV-TV in Charlotte.
The phone line at Worley’s church was busy on Monday night and on Tuesday, as was Worley’s home number on Tuesday.
The church’s website was down Tuesday morning, but it had described the house of worship as fundamentalist, meaning it represents a Baptist tradition that's more conservative than the Southern Baptists.
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Worley’s sermon was posted on YouTube by a group called Catawba Valley Citizens Against Hate, which is organizing a protest at the Providence Road Baptist Church on Sunday.
Addressing his congregation last Sunday, Worley referred to his earlier controversial sermon.
"I talked a little bit, I believe it was last Sunday, on the homosexual lifestyle, and there was a whole lot of people who didn't like what I said," Worley told his congregation Sunday, according to WBTV. "I want to read it out of the Bible, and then we'll go from there."
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“Listen, all of the Sodomites, the lesbians, and all of the ... what's that word? Gays - I didn't wanna say 'queers' - that say we don't love you, I love you more than you love yourself,” Worley said, according to WBTV. “I'm praying for you to be saved."
Worley’s initial sermon was partly framed as a response to Obama’s endorsement of same-sex marriage, which he made in a TV interview a day after North Carolina voters passed a state constitutional amendment banning legal recognition of such marriages and other types of gay unions.
The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, or GLAAD, was working Tuesday to gather criticism of Worley’s comments from other North Carolina pastors.
“I am angry and sick at heart over Pastor Worley's comments,” said the Rev. Dennis Teall-Fleming, pastor at Open Hearts Gathering in Gastonia, North Carolina, in a statement distributed by GLAAD.
“Nothing he says has anything to do with the Gospel of Jesus Christ,” said Teall-Fleming, who leads a Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) congregation. “I call on all Christian and Baptist organizations that have any connection with him to condemn his comments as strongly as I do, including Providence Road Baptist Church of Maiden.”
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Pastor Worley come knock on my door to round me up because I can guarantee that you had better be wearing a flac jacket or you wont make it off my porch!
See, their cartoon idea of what a gay person is like doesn't include the possibility that their bubba hunting partner, the guy who likes shooting stuff and has just as many guns as they do, is actually gay. Not many of them have seen Brokeback Mountain, you see.
Let's all show up Sunday in front of their church with our hands tied and our mouth's gagged. Post signs arouns saying "Lock us away for the cause of Christ" and surrender ourselves to him in silence. Oh, and dress like a concentration camp survivor, dirt and all! That should be a protest their little town will never forget and it will get the media's attention in a big way!
Maybe better to just show up, en masse, inquiring about all the free food they were so generous to offer. Chances are, none of them have any actual experience meeting real life gay people. As in a great many things it's their ignorance that has led to this bigotry.
Chances are they HAVE actually met real life gay people. They're just in the closet. Often times, even to themselves.
Call this inbred preacher boy and let him know what you think.
Someone else had a stupendous idea: make a donation to the LGTBH charity of your choice in Charles Worley's name. Not only does it help counteract the bigotry, if you provide his address they will probably send him a thank you card!
3283 Providence Mill Road, Maiden, NC 28650
Awesome! I wonder how long before he gets his number changed and hides like a coward.
It's just his opinnion. Maybe he didn't use politically correct words, but its true, if you put them behind that fence they will died...they can reproduce... Every single gay was born from straight people. Thats true.
Let me repeat back what you wrote there:
"if you put them behind that fence they will died...they can reproduce... Every single gay was born from straight people. Thats true."
Ah, a lot of lesbians give birth, and a lot of gay men are fathers. Those children have the same statistical chance of being gay as anyone else's so there are gay children of gay parents out there, right?
"but its true, if you put them behind that fence they will died...they can reproduce... Every single gay was born from straight people. Thats true."
If every single gay person was born from a straight person and the straight people are outside of the fenced in compound, that means the plan changes nothing. The gay people inside the compound will die and there will be more gay people born outside of the compound. The compound and fencing gay people in achieves nothing, gay people die outside of the compound without reproducing anyway.
Based on your poor handling of English and your inability to think logically, it's no wonder you agree with an equally logically impaired pastor and his followers. Placing gay people inside of a fenced in compound would work if gay people were reproducing and making gay people. For anyone to believe this is absolutely laughable. Unless you subscribe to the idiotic school of thought that watching gay people makes straight people gay in which case you have bigger problems.
Paul, we need to spay and neuter all these straight people, to keep the gays from happening. Are you with me? Let's do this.
His logic is flawed. Locking gay people in a fence would never cause them to eventually 'die out,' because as long as straight couples continue to reproduce, they will continue to have gay babies 🙂
There is no such thing as "gay". You have a choice with whom or if ever you sleep with someone or not. Just because a guy wakes up one morning and is not attracted to women means suddenly he should be sleeping with men. That does not seem like natural progression to me.
If there were no such thing as 'gay,' then there wouldn't be a debate going on, and this guy would not have preached on the subject in the first place. Just because you don't deem it natural or moral does not mean that it does not exist.
Randy appears to be yet another scientifically ignorant fundiot.
He doesn't even understand the difference between behavior – choosing who you have sèx with; and orientation – which gender gives his willey a stiffy.
Randy has every right to be as ignorant as he wants. But wearing that ignorance as a badge of honor is just sad.
randy: absolutely, a person has a choice whom to sleep with. they do not have a choice of who to be attracted to. hence,. there IS such a thing as being "gay"
also, your characterization of it as being "a guy wakes up one morning and is not attracted to women" shows that you are being intentionally misleading, or a moron.
this is something people apparently know from very early in their lives.
Sorry, but ever since the 30's and 40's we have to take VERY seriously any threats of people wanting to "round up" and "get rid of" certain demographics.
This guy has been reading a little too much Mein Kampf...
I knew that online minister certification programs were a bad idea!!!! This sermon sounds like pure hate. It sounds a lot like the speeches Hitler use to give. People kind of ignored them thinking that he was just trying to gain popularity. Well, he meant every word of what he wassaying, much like this pastor. Its scary.
The plan must be push though, ASAP!
Push *through* rather.
talk about church of the poisoned mind. too bad there is no such thing as heaven or hell...these "good Christian" HATERS would have a hot express ticket down to the inferno!! One thing we do have is Karma, we do indeed reap what we sow. He has invited some unpleasant experiences into his life and that will be the result of his hate.
@wisdomVS:"SOMEBODY PLEASE GIVE THE GAY CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY SOME INSIGHT ON WHERE WE STAND!"
well according to this guy you wouldn't be considered christian because you are gay, so he would chunk ya'll over the fence as well.
THIS JUST IN...
I just heard that the Western Chapter of the NCCFBC (North Carolina Coalition of Fundamental Baptist Churches) is preparing to request that Rev. Worley step down from his pulpit and surrender his Ministry License and Certificate of Ordination. If he doesn't comply within 15 days they will file for the state to remove the church's tax exept status and they'll contact all Western NC fundamental churches to shun and refuse acknowledgement of the church, withhold all support both financial and spiritual, thereby casting it out as a cult.
@wisdom: they should chain the doors to that church until the "pastor" steps down and goes seek help, but the whole "them being labeled a cult" thing works for me, then the law enforcement can drag him off with the other loonies.
As long as there is still a thing called "free speech" in this country I don't believe anything can or should be done to this man. Remember this: it's only "free speech" if people are allowed to say things you don't like. The fact that you don't agree with it and you put a label on it doesn't make any difference.
Frank – He does have free speech, but that doesn't negate the right of his employee to fire him if his preaching doesn't stay in line with their message.
@Frank – Free speech is not an absolute.
From watching his videos, he is violating the 501(c)3 regulations regarding tax exemption. This church should now lose it's tax exempt status.
What he said about gay folks is disgusting. It's sick. It's a lie. But it is protected speech. But (there's always a but) should this ignorant homôphobic fundiot cretin's word incite the môrons sitting in the pews to go out and harm gay folks, then it becomes hate speech and a hate crime.
He does have free speech. As do other those who should shout him down whenever he shows his face in public. Call a bigot a bigot. Using the bible to justify bigotry doesn't make it any less bigoted
Oh, I do so hope that you are right.
Can you please cite your sources? A google of "North Carolina Coalition of Fundamental Baptist Churches" doesn't actually bring results for a specific organisation; it has one or two results with a similar name, but nothing to verify your claim.
Again, I'm "praying" you are right! It would be a wonderful outcome, but I want to see a statement from them about it.
Don't know why I should be surprised at this. I think he went too far in his comment. We should love everyone, not necessarily love their actions or their chosen life style. Wrong is wrong and you can't make it a right just because you want to. The Bible says it is wrong, so it is.
Uh excuse me... but doesn't the Bible also say divorce is wrong, wearing mixed fabric is wrong, women cutting their hair short is wrong... YES, it does! So does anyone advocate locking those people away? NO, instead the church takes them into their fold and even remarries them... which is also wrong, according to the Bible. You just proved yourself to be a hypocrite and a picker and chooser of what scripture you prefer. Hell is going to be really hot for folks like you, so drink all the water you can now. There isn't any where you're going.
Thank you oh one of questionable wisdom for your "sincere" concern for my soul. Since you do not know me or how I live, perhaps my hair is long, and I don't believe in divorce unless it is for the one exception that is stated in the BIble. Your response shows the anger and hurt you are feeling for what reason I wouldn't know, but I will pray for you.
The Bible says divorce is wrong – Jesus himself talked about divorce – where is the outrage and the attempts to change those laws? The Bible says many things that we no longer consider appropriate (where are the laws making girls marry their rapists?). Why do YOU get to decide which parts are still relevant?
You can believe things are wrong to your heart's content, but as soon as you try to make second class citizens out of a group of people because of those beliefs I have a problem. You also have to understand that not everyone interprets the Bible the same way you do.
k.....you are a dope.
the bible is a fiction and you are gonna die like everybody else, deal with it.
Being born gay is not a lifestyle, it is an orientation. And it isn't a choice, it's innate. And it's no more immoral than being born left-handed.
Perhaps if you spent less time listening to the "Pastor Dave's" of the world, and more time cracking open a science journal or two, you would't make these mistakes. The problem is that the "Pastor Dave's" of the world are just as scientifically ignorant as you minions.
k: why do you feel orientation is a choice?
as far as "the bible says it's wrong, so it is" is not about morality, it is about cultural stagnation under the guise of piety. stories from an iron age, middle eastern, agrarian society are simply not relevant to 21st century man
Okay, so what about the Gay Christian community? Do we get the free accommodations and air dropepd meals or not? YES, we are Gay and YES we are Christian (not the ignorant hillbilly redneck kind). So, here we are cauight in the middle of this madness without certainty of our earthly destination (our eternal destination is settled). SOMEBODY PLEASE GIVE THE GAY CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY SOME INSIGHT ON WHERE WE STAND!
You stand on the side of being normal and right,.
This pastor is one cup short of Jonestown kool aid. I expect to wake up one morning to read they all were found in & around this church, dead from holy suicide in hope the passing asteroid picked them up. Lord, save me from your followers.
I agree but I wouldn't fence him in and force feed him the required dosage. Instead I'll just wait around until his kind die off in a few years, because sooner or later education creeps into their shallow gene pool.
that would certainly be amusing, roywarner
We love you more than you love yourself.
That's so comforting. And you express your love by creating concentration camps. How thoughtful. But don't trouble yourself. Just send a fruit basket. We love those.
this pastor looks like a pedifel anyway, red necks
Hate will get you nowhere except into the abyss of darkness that no man, women or child can climb out of without a permanent scar... Don't be marked by the beast. Salvation lies in your heart. Look deep within. Love will alway's win over hate. Alway's!
Jediism is, in many ways, a far more insightful religion than conservative Christianity.
Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. ...
Armaments, chapter two, verses nine through twenty-one:
And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O Lord, bless this thy hand grenade, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths, and carp and anchovies, and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit-bats.
And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.
Willie love? Or won't he? Seems like this preacher chose the latter.
Gosh, Willie, you are funny
mandarax!!! at last some reason! python forever! bring out yoour dead!!
If you round up all the males in the congregation and put them in an electricfied pen and do the same to the females then they all would die out too. Once again you can use the Bible to defend just about any position but notice how these people never mention Jesus when talking social issues.
because they are not Christians, they are anti-Christians.
They are Christian. They just aren't Christians that anyone wants to claim.
That's because they have a head knowledge of who he is but their hearts locked him out a long time ago.