May 22nd, 2012
11:23 AM ET
Video of North Carolina pastor's plan to 'get rid of' gays goes viral
By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor
(CNN) - Video of a North Carolina pastor preaching that gays and lesbians should be rounded up inside an electric fence is going viral on the Internet, two weeks after North Carolina passed a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage and President Barack Obama voiced personal support for legalizing such marriages.
"I figured a way out, a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers, but I couldn't get it past the Congress," Pastor Charles L. Worley can be seen telling his Providence Road Baptist Church congregation in the video, which had more than 250,000 YouTube views by Tuesday.
"Build a great big, large fence - 50 or a 100 miles long - and put all the lesbians in there,” Worley went on to say in his May 13 sermon at his Maiden, North Carolina, church. “Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals, and have that fence electrified so they can't get out. Feed them. And you know in a few years, they'll die out. You know why? They can't reproduce."
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The video had initially been posted on Providence Road’s website but was recently taken down, according to CNN affiliate WBTV-TV in Charlotte.
The phone line at Worley’s church was busy on Monday night and on Tuesday, as was Worley’s home number on Tuesday.
The church’s website was down Tuesday morning, but it had described the house of worship as fundamentalist, meaning it represents a Baptist tradition that's more conservative than the Southern Baptists.
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Worley’s sermon was posted on YouTube by a group called Catawba Valley Citizens Against Hate, which is organizing a protest at the Providence Road Baptist Church on Sunday.
Addressing his congregation last Sunday, Worley referred to his earlier controversial sermon.
"I talked a little bit, I believe it was last Sunday, on the homosexual lifestyle, and there was a whole lot of people who didn't like what I said," Worley told his congregation Sunday, according to WBTV. "I want to read it out of the Bible, and then we'll go from there."
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“Listen, all of the Sodomites, the lesbians, and all of the ... what's that word? Gays - I didn't wanna say 'queers' - that say we don't love you, I love you more than you love yourself,” Worley said, according to WBTV. “I'm praying for you to be saved."
Worley’s initial sermon was partly framed as a response to Obama’s endorsement of same-sex marriage, which he made in a TV interview a day after North Carolina voters passed a state constitutional amendment banning legal recognition of such marriages and other types of gay unions.
The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, or GLAAD, was working Tuesday to gather criticism of Worley’s comments from other North Carolina pastors.
“I am angry and sick at heart over Pastor Worley's comments,” said the Rev. Dennis Teall-Fleming, pastor at Open Hearts Gathering in Gastonia, North Carolina, in a statement distributed by GLAAD.
“Nothing he says has anything to do with the Gospel of Jesus Christ,” said Teall-Fleming, who leads a Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) congregation. “I call on all Christian and Baptist organizations that have any connection with him to condemn his comments as strongly as I do, including Providence Road Baptist Church of Maiden.”
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This is just plain destructive and heart breaking to see such hate be validated by the congregation. Love thy neighbor... Love love love. God bless this minister's misguided and ignorant soul, I pray that he will soon realize the weight of the violence he is spewing.
So I suppose CNN reporters were in church Sunday morning hearing this sermon or maybe they scoured the internet looking for such comments so they have more news. Do you know how many sermons there were last Sunday morning in North Carolina.? If you look for trouble, you'll find it.
Did you read the article. Someone in the church posted the video and it went viral. One of their correspondents found it and bingo, Christian hate exposed again. More Christians then not are bigoted and hate filled.
This is called the "Ostrich" approach – you put your head in the sand, but your posterior remains available for mounting.
You caught me . I didn't read the article, I watched the video. I apologize for that. But it is what most people will do on the internet. Make a comment and judgement without the full picture. Kind of like judging a preacher for incorrect comments made during a sermon inside a church when you weren't there and do not know the man. Immediately, everyone thinks they know him inside out and what his motivations are.
Ok Mick. I read it. it said that the "Catawba Valley Citizens Against Hate group" found the sermon on the churches web site and then posted it on youtube. It wasn't CNN it was this group that wanted to bring trouble on this pastor because they do not like what he said.
But Willy, shouldn't such things be exposed? Shouldn't we all be offended by a man preaching a message of violent hatred from the pulpit? What justification would be acceptable for preaching genocide?
Another faIse teacher not teaching what Christianity truly stands for. These people are to be expected as the end draws near but it's such a shame. To everyone out there please realize this isn't what Christianity or Jesus stands for
Herin lies the problem with almost every religous group out there....they all share one common belief:
"If you don't believe the same thing I do – you're wrong and I'm going to hate you for it..."
A bunch of sheep following a really stupid herder......it's frightening how much hatred is spewed inside the walls of churches, synagogues, temples, and every other religous building out there. If there is a God, in any form – he should be disgusted.
Freedom of speech, get over it you worthless gays
I'm not gay – and I find this disgusting. That's my freedom to object.
Men who are truly straight don't talk like that. It's the guys who have hom ose xual feelings that do. Get some help.
Freedom of speech has limits, Samuel. Any true American recognizes this. Here's a refresher for you: http://www.freedomforum.org/packages/first/curricula/educationforfreedom/supportpages/l04-limitsfreedomspeech.htm
And as Tim notes, if the pastor's speech is protected, then so is anyone's who decides to voice an objection. The door swings both ways.
This just makes me sad, that instead of preaching love and kindness, he has so much hatred. If he believes in god then he will be the one judged for how he behaved in this life.
"Ah Topher, how I love people who post replies to things they have no understanding or knowledge of. Try doing a little research before you post; you might just end up looking like slightly less of a moron."
You're right. I don't know my Mein Kampf like you atheists. Was it a good read?
Topher, the thing is Athiests don't put their crap on everyone else like you religious peeps. Your argument is baseless and don't forget Hitler was a Christian/Jew.
Can you please explain how Mein Kampf is related to atheism in anyway please?
Sorry, this was a response to a lengthy discussion on another page. The topic of whether Hitler was really a Christian or not came up and I say he wasn't because even though he claimed to be he obviously wasn't a follower of Jesus Christ. Anyway, several atheist started quoting from that book. I can't because I choose not to read anything that man has to say.
I owe an apology because I made this statement out of frustration. I also erred by not posting it directly to the discussion way back on an earlier page. I'm sorry to those whom I was having the discussion with.
It's called Google. Just Google something like "hitler's religious beliefs". That's where they got their quotes from. All that said, I think they were cherry-picking, just as many people (Christian, Muslim, Zoarastrain, Atheist, whatever) do, in order to support their beliefs. He certainly picked and chose which Christian/ Biblical beliefs he wanted to follow, and ignored the less convenient ones.
Which, to be brutally honest, is pretty common among religious people. The Amish are probably the only true "Christians" in this country (non-violence, a simple life, etc). Heck, most Buddhists are more Christian than most Christians. Everyone else is just cherry picking to justify their biases. And, claiming "I've sinned all my life, broken all the Commandments, but I feel real bad about it" doesn't make you a Christian. Deeds, not words, every single day, do. The rest is just lip service – and, there are several passages condemning committing less than 100% to Jesus I could cherry pick from the Bible to support my claim.. 😉
Can I ask where your allegiances lay?
I like your points, but I just want to point out that the Bible also says you can't do anything to get to Heaven. So doing things (works) won't help you. You can only be forgiven by the grace of God.
"But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags ..." Isaiah 64:6
Here's a thought...perhaps, just perhaps, the Westboro Inbred Baptist Church could make a slot for him in their congregation! People of like minds and all...
ATTN: There will be a MARCH on this church on Sunday May 27th from 10am until 1pm that is being organized by Catawba Valley Citizens Against Hate. There has been a permit secured by this group from the Catawba County Sherrif. This is a peaceful protest. PLEASE come. From all across the NATION...please come. North Carolinians need your help to fend off these hate mongers who feel embolden by the passage of Amendment One in NC two weeks ago. Prior assembly will take place the morning of the 27th at the Maiden Elementary School. BE THERE!!!
Wow, this man is preaching exactly what Hitler advocated and did during this reign. Great role model you picked Pastor!!
Being religious is a mental illness.
Unfortunately this man is not atypical for members of the right wing. These people love their country but hate most of the people who live in it.This is the type of crap that we here constantly from the far right.
but didn't you read what he wrote? He loves LGBT's more than they love themselves because he's god fearing, so CLEARLY what he said was out of love, the same way Hitler loved the jews so much he just wanted one big lovefest in certain parts of Poland.
This man is no Christian. People like him that claim Christianity make real Christians look bad. He needs to apologize for his hateful bigotry or leave and never be allowed to preach ever again.
When I hear a so called man of God speak like this it makes me shutter with disgust. The poisonous vitriol he is passing on to his congregation is not teaching a way of compassion, love and understanding. This instills a sense of fear, hatred and loathing that has no place in a house of God, and neither does he.
I call Poe's law, this guy s just a deep cover liberal, no one in there right minds goes up in public and says that in the way he said it (againnet,) unless they're trolling.
Or at least thats what I would like to believe...
How much voltage are we talking? I mean, that could be the difference between a good idea and a bad one.
Too clarify, what good is a fence if they're only going to climb it? That's like a bug zapper that only stuns the bugs.
Believe it or not, this kind of stuff is a good thing. Back in the 50's and 60's there were many who were not that passionate about black civil rights. But the film of protesters being beaten and attacked with water cannons, dogs, and batons, helped to push public opinion against the oppressors. Such is the same with the anti-gay movement. Their arguments and statements merely help to turn the tide against them, and toward the cause of liberty and civil rights. I invite all of those who feel like this man to speak up loudly and often as you are actually speeding up the demise of legislatively approved discrimination as to GLBT citizens.
Ah he thinks he knows the Good Book, but is quick to judge others..I though Jesus was the one that does the judging...And these Good Christians like to talk of waging war and killing civilians in other countries..all in the name of a Pacifist..They do not want to pay taxes..kinda like the Temple money changers...They want their guns too...so they can shoot first and claim self defense after..and if they kill, their is only one side to what happened...
I am happy he's agin it though. What's this guys IQ -1,000,000,000
This is a man of God??????
My sentiments exactly...another reason for me to be ashamed of being from NC.