May 22nd, 2012
11:23 AM ET
Video of North Carolina pastor's plan to 'get rid of' gays goes viral
By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor
(CNN) - Video of a North Carolina pastor preaching that gays and lesbians should be rounded up inside an electric fence is going viral on the Internet, two weeks after North Carolina passed a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage and President Barack Obama voiced personal support for legalizing such marriages.
"I figured a way out, a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers, but I couldn't get it past the Congress," Pastor Charles L. Worley can be seen telling his Providence Road Baptist Church congregation in the video, which had more than 250,000 YouTube views by Tuesday.
"Build a great big, large fence - 50 or a 100 miles long - and put all the lesbians in there,” Worley went on to say in his May 13 sermon at his Maiden, North Carolina, church. “Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals, and have that fence electrified so they can't get out. Feed them. And you know in a few years, they'll die out. You know why? They can't reproduce."
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The video had initially been posted on Providence Road’s website but was recently taken down, according to CNN affiliate WBTV-TV in Charlotte.
The phone line at Worley’s church was busy on Monday night and on Tuesday, as was Worley’s home number on Tuesday.
The church’s website was down Tuesday morning, but it had described the house of worship as fundamentalist, meaning it represents a Baptist tradition that's more conservative than the Southern Baptists.
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Worley’s sermon was posted on YouTube by a group called Catawba Valley Citizens Against Hate, which is organizing a protest at the Providence Road Baptist Church on Sunday.
Addressing his congregation last Sunday, Worley referred to his earlier controversial sermon.
"I talked a little bit, I believe it was last Sunday, on the homosexual lifestyle, and there was a whole lot of people who didn't like what I said," Worley told his congregation Sunday, according to WBTV. "I want to read it out of the Bible, and then we'll go from there."
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“Listen, all of the Sodomites, the lesbians, and all of the ... what's that word? Gays - I didn't wanna say 'queers' - that say we don't love you, I love you more than you love yourself,” Worley said, according to WBTV. “I'm praying for you to be saved."
Worley’s initial sermon was partly framed as a response to Obama’s endorsement of same-sex marriage, which he made in a TV interview a day after North Carolina voters passed a state constitutional amendment banning legal recognition of such marriages and other types of gay unions.
The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, or GLAAD, was working Tuesday to gather criticism of Worley’s comments from other North Carolina pastors.
“I am angry and sick at heart over Pastor Worley's comments,” said the Rev. Dennis Teall-Fleming, pastor at Open Hearts Gathering in Gastonia, North Carolina, in a statement distributed by GLAAD.
“Nothing he says has anything to do with the Gospel of Jesus Christ,” said Teall-Fleming, who leads a Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) congregation. “I call on all Christian and Baptist organizations that have any connection with him to condemn his comments as strongly as I do, including Providence Road Baptist Church of Maiden.”
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And this Hitler like fellow is still allowed to preach in North Carolina what a bunch morons !! I 'm glad I live in Massachusetts .
NC is running a full advertising campaign on TV for tourism. LOL Can you believe that the LGBT and all other progressive groups who are boycotting that rednecker state are actually having an impact on NC tourism, forcing them to advertise just like AZ has been doing for months? LOL You'd have to be insane to visit either rednecker state for tourism. If you stay in the sun too long and get a little too brown, they'll throw you in jail and lose the key... If you have relatives, send them an airline ticket to come visit you! LOL
This man has clearly lost his way.
**2 Timothy 2:16 But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness**
Last week CNN made it seemed like only Black pastors had a problem with gay marriage. Thanks for this enlightenment, CNN.
And next it will be the Jews again.
The south what a joke.
Easily lead and brain washed by religion at a early age !!
What an idiot!
This man and his bigoted message is just one thing from the plethora of reasons why progressives should be elected to replace the relics and dinosaurs of the Republican and Tea Parties in Nov 2012
Have you ever stopped to listen to the speeches of the LGBT and liberal community when they are speaking about Christians? They are even more hateful and ridiculous.
Dan, you are absolutely correct! It has been some of the most vitriol rhetoric that I have been exposed to in a public setting!
Yes, the LGBT have been bullied and verbally battered by numerous hate groups, especially Christians. Its high time they stood their ground and made their frustrations known about these evil, bigoted people that cling to a religion that everyone might not share. Just listen to what the Christains say about Muslims, Hindus, etc... they are a hate filled, brain-washed group of bigots. They are followers of Jesus, they are mere fans at best
I sometimes think we need a social experiment. We need to divide the US down the middle and let half of the nation follow conservative, christian based, laws and directions and the other half follow liberal, gay friendly, pro choice, atheist based laws and directions. Allow anyone to move from one side to the other in keeping with the ideology they want to live in, with a fair compensation for their property. Then give each side 40 years or so, a short time in reference to societal changes and observable proofs. Then we will see who is right and who is wrong about how a people should live so as to obtain peaceful, productive, balanced lives.
Gee, Dan Jones, I wonder what it's like to live in such a black-and-white world.
Haha, agreed. But we already ostensibly have that division–the Northeast, West Coast, and Chicago environs (MN, WI, IL) where most people are pretty progressive and open-minded (and much less religious or do not push their religious faith on everyone else, for the most part), and the South and large swaths of the Midwest, where most people are more religious and believe that everyone should live like they do and not commit sin according to the Bible. It's intriguing to me that the economic engines that make our country so amazing are almost entirely in the more progressive, open-minded areas, and the stagnant economy pervades more in the more conservative places. There are exceptions–Atlanta in Georgia, but Atlanta is FAR more progressive than Georgia as a whole. Texas, but its oil is a big reason for its draw, and its most economically important areas of Austin and Houston are far more liberal and progressive than the state as a whole. New Orleans, again, more liberal and progressive than its more conservative state. South Florida is where the action is, more liberal and progressive, and the panhandle is far more conservative, and with little economic output. If the conservative Christians got their way, our country would recede into the Middle Ages and they would be thrilled...until they realized that the Chinese heathens will overtake us in no time.
We have already tried your social experiment. The US was one of the liberal options, where people could pick their own religion and not live under someone else's religious laws. The places that do enforce religious law, are not lovely places to live. Making another one won't somehow make a good one, just another church state.
The real problem with your idea is that there are more than just two perspectives on, well, everything. I wouldn't want to live in the gun control liberal state, but the only thing worse would be living in your church state.
All this guy needs now is a white hood and a burning cross! Notice how he says "against it" as "again it"...trying to hide those sibilant consonants sounds pastor?? Notice how NO ONE is seated behind him in the vid? You cannot lead with everyone in front of you Pastor and no one who has got your back. I pray that your parents might have "cracked" the bigot out of you at a young age...but at your age now, and electrified fence to keep you away and not reproduce might work. We'll throw in a loaf of bread and a few fish and see how long it takes your Higher Power to provide enough food for you to prosper.
What is it with teachers and preachers in North Carolina??
I would laugh at the utter stupidity if it wasn't so so sad...
This man has clearly lost his way.
***2 Timothy 2:16 But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness.***
To these preachers, I say "Keep it up!" You are doing more for gay rights than all the gay and gay-friendly people could hope to do. Your refusal to sugar-coat your anti-gay views helps those who are "on the fence" about what to believe see the ugliness of intolerance, the hatefulness of Pharisaic practices, and the utter godlessness of those who condemn others.
I am a gay man living in Mississippi. I have enough persecution in this conservative state..let alone wanting to put me in an electric fence and dropping food in for me. What type of warped thinking is this. This man is uneducated. And they say Mississippi has the highest rate of uneducated idiots. Look in the mirror pastor! What is your next suggestion? Torture chambers, bamboo shoots under fingernails, gas chambers, and ovens to put us in. Oh yeah, that has already been done before out of HATE!!!!!
Some things are so disgusting and ridiculous that no comment would do it justice.
Oh whatever. Thanks CNN for associating ONE half-backwards sermon with all of Christianity. You know what? Gay-marriage is going to happen. I get it. I'm not for it and I'm a Christian. So go ahead and make it legal for a community of people to steal a Christian ritual from a religion, which the government separated from itself even though this country was founded with the help of it, making it virtually unable to actually defend itself creditably, go ahead. Make it legal so we can get on with our lives. It's not like they didn't do what they do before marriage anyways, so please make the mockery of my religion and lets move on. I'm interested in the next milestone of destroying a country's core religion.
and for the half-baked comments. This man does not represent anyone or anything else, other than himself. So don't associate with all of Christianity, or even think for a moment that this is what we're taught growing up. If you don't know anything about it, then you shouldn't be able to form an opinion.
"steal a Christian ritual." Typical idiot Christian.
Marriage is a christian tradition? I think most religions practice marriage.
The marriage ceremony with a preacher marrying the two? yeah, that's Christian. If you want the legal rights go for it. Stay out of my church.
Last I checked this country was founded on religious freedom, which includes freedom from religion. Maybe us Christians wouldn't get such a bad name if you would stop telling everyone how much they're destroying this country because the laws aren't based on the Bible, and maybe add a little bit of Christ's love in there too instead of vilifying people different from you.
Marriage is not exclusive to Christianity. You don't even need to participate in a Christian ritual anymore. You can get a civil union. Just sign a piece of paper and go. It's been that way for decades. No one is mocking your religion and it will survive all of this just fine because marriage became secularized a long time ago.
Marriage is not Christian ritual, you know. People who believed in other gods were married, before the Christianity was even invented.
Chris – your version of a god was cobbled together from other minor deities worshipped in the area by various tribes 6,000 years ago. Marriage predates this – it did not originate with your god.
And sorry, but it is you ignorant fundiots who make a mockery of your religion.
Very helpful TOM. so what is typical, what differs either side when typical is used. typical is what breeds hate, breeds mistreatment. causes crosses to be burned, jews to be persecuted, and gives power to leaders that spew vile evil words. typical is what racist parents teach to make their kids hate-filled adults, "that's typical" is what bigoted liberal parents teach their kids to make them hate the church because one man says somthing dumb. typical cant exist when we are all just people. to we are either typical groups or seperate individuals. i know what i am...do you?
marriage was moved to being a "Christian" Tradition because the church was the record keepers. in the beginning to be married you simply had a ceremony with someone who officiates and usually some sort of sign of commitiment similar to jumping over the broom.
The reaction is way overdone. It's pretty obvious the guy was just trying to make a metaphorical point – build a fence around the GLBT and they will disappear on their own. Which, theoretically, the would. What's the big deal? Not everyone is enamored with the gay propaganda, either.
I'm sorry Beep Beep, but that is pure bull. He meant exactly what he said. Just like the previous fundiot pastor meant to say hit gay kids. Just like the fundiots on here calling for the death of gay folks.
christian PIG – gay people are made by STRAIGHT parents, get it? Can the Christian brain process this?
Yes because straight people never have gay kids
The propaganda of wanting basic human rights?
Not one single solitary member of this church had the balls to stand up to this cretin and tell him he was wrong. Concentration camps for gay folks? Seriously?
Did we learn nothing from behavior of the Nazi's? The German people saddly sat quietly suching up the drivel spewed out about the Jews. They did nothing while millions of innocent people were murdered.
And this freaking "man of god" wants to do the same thing here, and his parishoners have the audacity to sit there on their bûtts and do nothing?
Time after time we see theists on here chastizing people for lumping all Christians together. Fine. Here's your chance to prove us wrong. Why aren't all you "rational" christians heading down there to protest this cretin?
read the article in its entirety ... There ARE scheduled protests by Christian groups for this Sunday. You're just as ignorant as this pastor.
I liked your post... I agree with you, someone should of stood up, my hope was they were in shock and didn't know what to say but then I read they all came back the next Sunday to listen to him again. I saw another post about Freedom of Speach and I am all for it but he is a position of leadership and influence, so I don't think it is right to lure people and then when you have them start this stuff. I am a Christian and just learned last year my son was gay. I love him no matter what... he is a wonderful human being.. he is only 23 and just found out he has cancer, if he dies god won't turn him away. God is all about love, loving your neighbor and helping one another. Peace is all God wants for us. This Pastor is shameful and I am truely sorry if he hurt anyone.
Joshua replied (to me), " read the article in its entirety ... There ARE scheduled protests by Christian groups for this Sunday. You're just as ignorant as this pastor."
I did. I wonder why you didn't. The organized protest is a grassroots effort – not a church lead effort. The sad thing is, the local law enforcment is telling the (non-church) organizers to have people park at local public school. Yet today the school board has told the (non-church) organizers they need a $1,000,000 bond before the protestors can park.
No other calls for a protest from any church group. There a couple quotes from other preachers saying he was wrong, but no call for a protest.
I wonder why you told me I should have read the article?
You know it cracks me up that when one of these "SPECIAL SOULS" gets the chance to beChristlike, the exact opposite occursp. Their EGO"S are so inflated they actually belive their own BS. The gays are just the latest target in a plethera of targets that the controllers have attemped to eliminate. What is beyond belief is that an advanced society ( of which we purport) would allow this idiocy to continue!
Does NC have a law of "bias Intimidation'? How come this guy is free and dharun ravi (who was never against gay) was convicted of bias intimidation in NY?
I think all southern "pastors" should be confined behind an electrfied fence and forced to read the bible, omitting nothing, inserting nothing, from beginning to end, and then have to take an examination on what is written before they can be let loose in the general population again.