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May 22nd, 2012
11:23 AM ET
Video of North Carolina pastor's plan to 'get rid of' gays goes viralBy Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor (CNN) - Video of a North Carolina pastor preaching that gays and lesbians should be rounded up inside an electric fence is going viral on the Internet, two weeks after North Carolina passed a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage and President Barack Obama voiced personal support for legalizing such marriages. "I figured a way out, a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers, but I couldn't get it past the Congress," Pastor Charles L. Worley can be seen telling his Providence Road Baptist Church congregation in the video, which had more than 250,000 YouTube views by Tuesday. "Build a great big, large fence - 50 or a 100 miles long - and put all the lesbians in there,” Worley went on to say in his May 13 sermon at his Maiden, North Carolina, church. “Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals, and have that fence electrified so they can't get out. Feed them. And you know in a few years, they'll die out. You know why? They can't reproduce." My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality The video had initially been posted on Providence Road’s website but was recently taken down, according to CNN affiliate WBTV-TV in Charlotte. The phone line at Worley’s church was busy on Monday night and on Tuesday, as was Worley’s home number on Tuesday. The church’s website was down Tuesday morning, but it had described the house of worship as fundamentalist, meaning it represents a Baptist tradition that's more conservative than the Southern Baptists. My Take: The Christian case for gay marriage Worley’s sermon was posted on YouTube by a group called Catawba Valley Citizens Against Hate, which is organizing a protest at the Providence Road Baptist Church on Sunday. Addressing his congregation last Sunday, Worley referred to his earlier controversial sermon. "I talked a little bit, I believe it was last Sunday, on the homosexual lifestyle, and there was a whole lot of people who didn't like what I said," Worley told his congregation Sunday, according to WBTV. "I want to read it out of the Bible, and then we'll go from there." CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories “Listen, all of the Sodomites, the lesbians, and all of the ... what's that word? Gays - I didn't wanna say 'queers' - that say we don't love you, I love you more than you love yourself,” Worley said, according to WBTV. “I'm praying for you to be saved." Worley’s initial sermon was partly framed as a response to Obama’s endorsement of same-sex marriage, which he made in a TV interview a day after North Carolina voters passed a state constitutional amendment banning legal recognition of such marriages and other types of gay unions. The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, or GLAAD, was working Tuesday to gather criticism of Worley’s comments from other North Carolina pastors. “I am angry and sick at heart over Pastor Worley's comments,” said the Rev. Dennis Teall-Fleming, pastor at Open Hearts Gathering in Gastonia, North Carolina, in a statement distributed by GLAAD. “Nothing he says has anything to do with the Gospel of Jesus Christ,” said Teall-Fleming, who leads a Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) congregation. “I call on all Christian and Baptist organizations that have any connection with him to condemn his comments as strongly as I do, including Providence Road Baptist Church of Maiden.” soundoff (5,806 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 Next » |
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I was in the South for the first time last week and it seems the Local Greeting is, "Hi, my name is Buford, or Learleane, or Jethro... and I HATE Catholics"? Why do these he-billies think anyone cares who they hate and why do they think it is their right to tell me they hate Catholics? Well I hate uneducated, low class, hee-billies who do not realize they are at the bottom of the totem pole.
I had to go to North Carolina for a Christmas party one year. Everyone, including the children got guns. I've never heard the N-word so many times in my life. I was so ready to get back to civilization.
how does someone so stupid live that long?
This is the type of ideology that gets us bogged down in two Middle Eastern wars at once. This is the type of ideology that gets thousands upon thousands of innocent people killed and maimed.
What a total idiot
I guess I will never understand the "CHRISTIAN" faith. How can any one faith be so judgemental of others yet, preach tolerance of others like the "MAN" who goes home every night and beats his wife and children. As long as he goes to church and proclaims "CHRISTIANITY" and that he repents for his sins. "ALL IS FORGIVEN" Then he is free to go about doing the same thing day in and day out until he goes back to church the next time and repents all over again in yet another vicious cycle. Or the "WOMAN" who cheats on her husband goes to church and repents for her sins "ALL IS FORGIVEN AGAIN" though this being one of the "TEN COMMANDMENTS" as long as she repents today she is forgiven, another vicious cycle continues. The fame of the "BIBLE" that the "CHRISTIANS" use for thier own "HATE" surprizes me.
It's like the bumper sticker says... "I love God, it's his followers I can't stand."
Is this guy seriously advocating that we put gays in concentration camps? The religious right isn't even TRYING to make themselves different from the Nazis anymore.
This speech isn't too different from Santorum's career long diatribe concerning gay Americans and yet he made great headway toward the presidency of the United States thanks to like minded Christians with an ax to grind.
I'm a Christian. If heaven were filled with people like this, it would be hell. Heaven is supposed to be a place w/o evil, hatred, sorrow. Unfortunately people like this are obviously not reading the Bible; Jesus' teaching was criticial of the self-righteous religious hypocrites and attractive towards everyone else (who recognized it for what it was: love/mercy...good news).
@ EM
I’m sorry but you are wrong. People like this are more closely link to the Bibles teaching than the modern Christian ideal. You are the one off. You'd know that had YOU read the Bible.
If only....
Are you kidding? I read the Bible daily.
The Bible is good news. Unfortunately, man ignores God.
If a kid ignores his parents' advice, trouble usually ensues. The parents usually forgive/step in to try to help. That's pretty much the story of the Bible.
I find it interesting that every time I turn around I find my self bombarded by uneducated ignorant Christians condemning anyone that does not hold there fanatical views to hell, and suggesting Nazi-esc patterns of behavior to remedy what they believe is immoral behavior. Whens the last time you remember hearing about an atheist condemning anyone to death based on a belief or life style he or she holds. I am an atheist and proud of it, but I try to remain humble and to continuously educate my self. Maybe you and those like you should do the same. Suggested reading Matthew 7:1, John 8:7
You know, in the end, in the New Testament, John 3:16 simply says that "whosoever believeth in me shall not perish, but have everlasting life". No gay clause. No sodomy clause. No clause at all from what I could read (in any and all translations, and yes, I've read most of them). Now if that's the case and any one who believes in him is permitted into heaven, who are we to judge if God and Jesus welcomes them with open arms?
What's the issue? You libs don't have a problem with muslims, so why bash Christians? Last I checked we still had freedom of religion.
But apparently, we don't have the freedom to marry who we want to....
We also have cow patties in the pasture, but that doesn't mean we have to eat them.
So bashing this guy is bashing Christians? You saying they are all like that?
Only the Christians that oppress. The others get a free pass in my book.
1st amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
Yes you have freedom of religion, however you do not have freedom to discriminate against another group of people when it comes to civil rights. Marriage is nothing more than a binding contract between 2 consenting adults and has nothing to do with religion.
I have no problems with christians. I have very religoius christian friends. They live their lives free of judgement of others. They only worry about themsevles.
I don't hate christians, I hate people who promote murder and violence against others. Not all christians are that way, plenty of muslims are peaceful as well.
The issue is there is too many of you m0r0ns that are allowed to vote
Really Brian you can't be that thick. Freedom of religion doesn't give someone the right to advocate violence or the rounding up of anyone. The preacher is a fool and anyone who listens to him is as well.
Nope, he didn't bashing this guy is bashing Christians, however, many posters here are using this opportunity to say all Christians are exactly like this. In typical progressive liberal (but interestingly anti-Christian) fashion, any time a liberal can profile someone they don't agree with, then belittle, marginalize, and start a vicious verbal attack on the entire group, they will.
Liberals are fond of saying Muslim extremists are not representative of the majority of the faith, but are very quick to label ANY Christian extremist as representative of the whole of Christians. The height of hyporcrisy from supposedly liberal individuals.
Perhaps liberals think the Black Panthers represent the thinking of all black people also? How about Reverend Wright?
who is denying freedom of religion. this pastor has a right to spew as much hatred as he chooses. we have a right to call him on it. and, it ain't only "libs" that disagree with this pastor
geee, tajw: can you throw in "liberal" one more time?
also, TAJW: point out the folks who are saying that all christians are like this. it should be easy there, eh? if you make a claim, back it up. otherwise, go get your shinebox
When I was about 8 and found out that Santa Claus was not real that got me to think about God. I thought, can a guy that lives in the sky know absolutely everything everyone on this earth is doing, schedules when everyone will die and be born, knows when I cuss, snap fingers and create the world, and live forever actuall be real. If you believe that this guy (or gal) lives in the sky then you are brainwashed. Plain and simple.
Most sensible post of the day so far....
Hey. Don't you go off slandering Santa Claus like that. He is real and you can't prove otherwise. Who do you think puts all of those presents under the tree every Christmas? Our parents?
Okay, so you believe God is a 'guy'? Therein lies the difference between someone who believes in God and someone who does not...and you are free to believe what you will.
But then, so are the rest who Do believe in God. And we don't have to agree that what the person who the article is about said, and nor should we all be taken to task for it.
Oh crap, then who is EATING THE COOKIES I put out every year??
I always find it so interesting that people reject that which they don't understand so easily and at the same time tell others who wrestle with ideas and beliefs that have been studied by literally thousand upon thousands of very intelligent people how stupid or ignorant we are for believing in something that literally billions of others believe in. I think Kelly we feel sorry for your small-mindedness so very sorry...
The powers that be at CNN can't think this is a credible representation of Christianity. Yet they make it a headline. Why?
How is this story not a credible representation of Christianty? This came from an actual Christian religious leader's mouth at an actual Christian sermon....
Simple, its about a viral video. Its already news. And this guy does represent a large number of people's views. Certainly not any kind of majority, but a very vocal, sizable minority.
Well, thats easy. He's a christian pastor. He was video taped and it went viral. In the pastors own words, "Yea, he said it...."
@DEC
Your comment implies CNN cares if this is a true representation. When they post a story about a Muslim blowing something up.. do you think they ask if this is a true representation of Islam or do they post it because it happened? I’m sorry you have so many lunatics in your belief box but that if your faiths responsibility not CNNs. You are not a victim.
P.S. This is an accurate representation based on my personal experience here in the South.
Fr33th1nk3r said: "How is this story not a credible representation of Christianty? This came from an actual Christian religious leader's mouth at an actual Christian sermon...."
So .. since Osama Bin Laden was an actual Muslim leader, everything he and his other leaders said should be taken as 100% true also?
"Freethinker" is quite a moniker to live up to...unfortunately, I think you have some pretty rigid boundaries you are thinking in, and they all regard certain classes of people or groups as bad....so you probably should reconsider your screen name.
This is North Carolina people, so this pastor was saying what many of those people believe about gays: round them up and move them out. They also feel that way about blacks, jews, catholics, asians & hispanics. When ever I have to travel through NC, I make sure I have my gun and hollowpoints, because these people will attack you for just being different in anyway, so be ready to defend yourself.
Annabeth, you are an idjit. I am from NC an while it has lingering issues with prejudice of all sorts (as does all of the south), it is not any worse than rural California, Maine or Ohio. I have been to all those places and many more and seen how it is there. I do not think you know anything about North Carolina or the people that live in that state. To say that they attack you for no reason is moronic. If you really think you need to carry a gun whenever you travel through there, then you obviously have prejudices of your own that need sorted out...along with a host of other issues, apparently.
That is soooo super scary. I think I will stay away from N.C.
I have family in NC and I completely agree with annebeth.
@SSE: I know plenty about NC because my mother is from Enfield NC, which is in Halifax County. As a black woman she grew up in a town that had 2 public swimming pools, that were not open to blacks. When she graduated from college as a nurse, she had to leave the state, because none of the white hospitals would hire a black RN. I know plenty about the mentality of NC. I have to go visit family that still lives there and yes my grandparents had the Klan burn a cross on the front lawn of their farm, but they ran off when grandma rolled out with a shot gun. I know TOO much about NC. So what do YOU really know about NC?
I'd raise serious doubt as to whether this man is a Christian...he's clearly forgotten what Christ saved him from. Hate the sin, not the sinner. He's not speaking the truth in love. This man's church should vote to remove his pastorate this coming Sunday.
Doubt he's a christian??? HE'S A CHRISTIAN PASTOR!!!!
Many have and will continue to use Christianity (and other religions) for their private purposes of power. There are many sincere Christians ( they may not be right, but at least they are trying ). Sadly many sincere Christians can be lead into all sorts of negative beliefs.
No, DPGW, he is not a Christian. He is preaching from a Christian pulpit, though. He obviously got there by duping a lot of people or by taking advantage of their own prejudices.
This is creation! ...If not for this loon I would have never heard of DR. C. WELTON GADDY
PRESIDENT, INTERFAITH ALLIANCE who did a "wonderful job" of rebutting the poor Pastor Charles L. Worley ... I'm gonna keep my eye on Rev. DR. C. WELTON GADDY he's seems a very smart, aware and balanced man ...I like him.
Shame on you Pastor Charles L. Worley.
Where do hate crimes start in Churchs.
There is an incredible disconnect between the Christian Bible and these fascists claiming to be Christians. Christ would not pass judgement on his flock, these nuts do! Christ feed thousands of hungry people, to these fascists this is welfare and should be stopped. Christ even encouraged praying for your enemies, these fascist believe you should nuke them! Folks, this is the population we have to depend on to compete against the emerging world powers? We are toast!
As terry goodkind said the only sovereign you can allow to rule you is reason. There is nothing wrong with being spiritual, believing in a higher power than yourself what is wrong is thinking that somehow this higher power would tell us to become an exclusive society full of hate just by having some people write it down in books. If god him/herself didn't tell you directly that this is what he wants ignore it cause with mistranslations politics and power grubbing figures the bible isn't the definitive word of god it is the definitive word of a roman council intent on creating an organized religion they could control.
Love the Goodkind reference.
WOW! What a beautiful and touching statement/explanation from Mr.Gaddy. I listened to him, literally speechless.
I think putting the black people in the camps until they dis is a MUCH better idea.
Hey, don't forget the jews. Anybody else you good, christian, god loving people want to put into concentration camps???
ya those guys too, thanks for reminding me.
Forget about all this religious nonsense and live your lives as good, moral human beings. If you need a "god" to tell you how to live your life, I feel sorry for you.
So who is your benchmark for morality? Weiner, Franks, obama?
My benchmark for morality? Me. I take full accountability for my actions. Don't need a magic man in the sky to tell me the difference between right and wrong. Your benchmark for morality? See video above.
"So who is your benchmark for morality? Weiner, Franks, obama?"
I dunno, how about local, state and federal governments? Or how about this CRAZY notion.....I can think for myself and understand what is right and wrong. Doesn't take a book written by a bunch of ancient humans to figure it out. If they can, you certainly can.