May 22nd, 2012
11:23 AM ET
Video of North Carolina pastor's plan to 'get rid of' gays goes viral
By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor
(CNN) - Video of a North Carolina pastor preaching that gays and lesbians should be rounded up inside an electric fence is going viral on the Internet, two weeks after North Carolina passed a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage and President Barack Obama voiced personal support for legalizing such marriages.
"I figured a way out, a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers, but I couldn't get it past the Congress," Pastor Charles L. Worley can be seen telling his Providence Road Baptist Church congregation in the video, which had more than 250,000 YouTube views by Tuesday.
"Build a great big, large fence - 50 or a 100 miles long - and put all the lesbians in there,” Worley went on to say in his May 13 sermon at his Maiden, North Carolina, church. “Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals, and have that fence electrified so they can't get out. Feed them. And you know in a few years, they'll die out. You know why? They can't reproduce."
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The video had initially been posted on Providence Road’s website but was recently taken down, according to CNN affiliate WBTV-TV in Charlotte.
The phone line at Worley’s church was busy on Monday night and on Tuesday, as was Worley’s home number on Tuesday.
The church’s website was down Tuesday morning, but it had described the house of worship as fundamentalist, meaning it represents a Baptist tradition that's more conservative than the Southern Baptists.
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Worley’s sermon was posted on YouTube by a group called Catawba Valley Citizens Against Hate, which is organizing a protest at the Providence Road Baptist Church on Sunday.
Addressing his congregation last Sunday, Worley referred to his earlier controversial sermon.
"I talked a little bit, I believe it was last Sunday, on the homosexual lifestyle, and there was a whole lot of people who didn't like what I said," Worley told his congregation Sunday, according to WBTV. "I want to read it out of the Bible, and then we'll go from there."
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“Listen, all of the Sodomites, the lesbians, and all of the ... what's that word? Gays - I didn't wanna say 'queers' - that say we don't love you, I love you more than you love yourself,” Worley said, according to WBTV. “I'm praying for you to be saved."
Worley’s initial sermon was partly framed as a response to Obama’s endorsement of same-sex marriage, which he made in a TV interview a day after North Carolina voters passed a state constitutional amendment banning legal recognition of such marriages and other types of gay unions.
The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, or GLAAD, was working Tuesday to gather criticism of Worley’s comments from other North Carolina pastors.
“I am angry and sick at heart over Pastor Worley's comments,” said the Rev. Dennis Teall-Fleming, pastor at Open Hearts Gathering in Gastonia, North Carolina, in a statement distributed by GLAAD.
“Nothing he says has anything to do with the Gospel of Jesus Christ,” said Teall-Fleming, who leads a Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) congregation. “I call on all Christian and Baptist organizations that have any connection with him to condemn his comments as strongly as I do, including Providence Road Baptist Church of Maiden.”
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Well I've enjoyed using my FREEDOM OF SPEECH. DO NOT MISUNDERSTAND – I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE HARSHNESS OF THIS MANS VIEWS. YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY AND KEEP ON BLOGGING.
Yes you have the freedom to tuck your tail and run.
I bet this guy gets off watching Deliverance.
from the book of cornholio, book of buttheadicus chapter 2 verse 1: I need t.p. for my bung hole.
Now this is some gooood chit
Imagine his surprise a generation from now when there are gays and lesbians on both sides of the electric fence.
"Lordy! The gays must have escaped!"
"Land o' Goshen!"
This guy .... and the "audience" he is talking to need to realize it's not 1962 anymore... NC is NOT PART of the UNITED STATES....as I see it.... THIS IS A state that should be "put out" and told them to "fend for themselves....let them stand alone..and see JUST HOW WELL they'd do..... turning religion's verbage and making your ignorance come out... real nice !
I say let them secede, with Mississippi, Oklahoma, Virginia, West Virginia and the Texas panhandle.
somehow I think you and him have the same DNA.
Well he used his freedom to criticize and he has the same right as everyone else. Or am I missing something here?
Do you have a point? Yes, he's free to say what he said, and we're free to condemn it. Freedom of speech doesn't mean anyone has to RESPECT your opinion.
Joyce clearly illustrates the current intelligence gap between the right and left
And people are using their freedom to criticize him right back. What don't you get about that? You think freedom only works one way???
Joyce, someone says something derogatory or $exual to your kids, you going to chalk it up to freedom of speech?
Of course, he has the right to say what he wants. However, everyone is still to be held accountable for their words. He did nothing illegal, but in the court of public opinion, he deserves the death penalty.
Drew – that is pretty harsh saying one group is more intelligent than the other – I think there are very intelligent people in both groups.
I wonder how many people where in attendance? We hear the Amen's but from what number of folks. My wife goes to A Independent Baptist Church (same one for 50 years) and I go on special occasions and you hear allot of Amen's but there is only about 15 people in the whole congregation. NC has more churches then Smith's in the phone book so you don't know how many got infected by this flesh eating virus of a preacher.
Isn't it interesting how this report gets a picture and a news story on CNN, yet the story about the student in a North Carolina high school who was told be his teacher that he could be arrested for criticizing Obama gets no coverage. And it too has gone viral on U-Tube. Is it any wonder CNN is losing viewers? The American people want ALL the news, not just what the liberal media want us to see and hear.
That's what I'm talking about. FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
Uh, Joyce, do you know what the First Amendment means? That GOVERNMENT will not restrict freedom of speech. You see any government intervention here?
Actually, I saw an article on that on CNN yesterday (I think it was yesterday). However, this is the Belief Blog. If the article doesn't have a faith/religious angle, it won't be here, it will be elsewhere on CNN...like in Politics.
Observer you understand where I'm coming from. He has a right to his opinions and beliefs whether we agree or not. Some people are really getting radical with him because he was radical about the gays and lesbians. I think both are wrong. JUST MY OPINION BUT I'M GLAD I STILL LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT ALLOWS ME, SO FAR, TO GIVE IT.
Even so...Lord Jesus...come quickly!
....and take your people home.
To Wayne C. - I am reposting this bit of conversation so it won't get lost on the other page, and hoping you will respond.
You said, "God does love all and hates those that reject Him."
I responded: "So, which is it? God loves all? Or God hates those that reject him? You can't have it both ways. Pick one."
Your response, "Like I said it is God's way or the highway, but you want to make it a choice. In a monarchy there is no choice you do what the King says. If you follow and love Him, he is for you, if you reject Him then He rejects you. I can love someone but if they reject my love, do I still have to be friends with them if they are doing things that I don't agree with. Well God loves those who love Him and hates those who reject Him. Plain and simple. But you want God to love those who love Sin and He cannot do that can he? God is not American politics, He is not a two party system, He is a one and only sovereign God, righteous and true."
And my response to that is this:
@Wayne, so your answer is that God hates some folks and loves others?
What about what your God (Jesus) said about loving those who hate you? Are you saying that God expects human beings to be capable of doing that, when he himself is not? And he hates not even just the ones who hate him, but the ones who just believe he doesn't exist?
Doesn't sound like any god I would trust with my mortal life, let alone my immortal soul.
Well said. More contradictions pointed out. I've yet to find a religion on the planet that is without contradictions. It's a useless mythology not worthy of our constant fighting. Religion is indeed, the opiate, and the bludgeon, of the masses.
Yet another example of a so-called christian who has absolutely no idea of what it is to be christian. I don't know what bible this ....person is reading, but it has no relation to the one I was raised with. Jesus taught us to love everyone and lead by example. Not once in the bible does Jesus round up any group and put them behind an electric fence. These baptists really need some anger management and to learn to love and live and let live. NOTE TO THE JUDGEMENTAL RELIGIOUS FOLKS HERE – one of the TEN COMANDMENTS IS: THOU SHALL NOT JUDGE. I've yet to meet a christian who practices this. But they'll pull out good'ol liviticus (sp) when it suits their purpose, even though he's from the old testament and is no longer valid ACCORDING TO JESUS.
As much as I agree with your overall point, THOU SHALL NOT JUDGE is not one of the ten commandments. You may be free to say what you want, but I suggest you practice some responsibility in your posts if you want to be taken seriously.
@excitzen I would say that this preacher is more of a christian then you are. And to answer your question he is reading the same bible you are. You just pick and choose what you like from the bible and he does not. While the bible is a great story to read and does have some sound lessons it contradicts itself in so many ways. Old vs New testament, angry god vs loving god. There are so many examples of injustice and cruelty in the bible. I know I know your gonna say what about Jesus? Jesus was probably historically a good man, but even the Jesus story has so many contradictions, its difficult to believe. If the bible was written during modern times it would have been labeled as fiction and made into a blockbuster movie staring Tom Cruse as zombie Jesus. If you truly believe in the bible then embrace the good and the bad and don't fool yourself by saying " I don't know what bible this ....person is reading". Its the same bible your reading he is just honest about what it says.
How about Leviticus 19:17-18
Old testament and no longer valid – except for people like you to spread hatred. Hate to break it to you, but you aren't living by God's laws either. Pray for yourself.
What about Leviticus? You don't believe all of it so why be a major HYPOCRITE and tell others to?
I used to think the old testament didn't apply to today either – until I read it.
If God is so infallible, how come he found it necessary to supercede all his Old Testament laws? And by proxy, for that matter?
Sounds more like Jesus was the first Reform Rabbi.
I used to think the old testament didn't apply to today either – until I read it.
so you dispute Jesus in favour of hatred
EXCITIZEN – I don't dispute anyone – I said I used to think it was not applicable until I read it. I think there are parts that are not applicable and parts that are. After I read it, I came to my own conclusions. Not someone elses...just saying.
An Eye for an Eye
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ 39 But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. 41 If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
Love for Enemies
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
You are an idiot and an embarrassment to the human race. Your comment about Republicans is no better than what Charles L Worley said. Discrimination is discrimination no matter how you say it!!! Wake up!
But u have to admit. How are they going to reproduce?
idi0t, just where do you think gays come from?
It's ignorance like this that makes me question how your kind managed to reproduce.
Options to get intelligence: Take a class like Basic Biology 101 or read "Biology for Dummies".
Just becasue we are gay doesn't mean we can't take one for humanity and bang a few out!
Oh yeah. I guess if you fence in all the ho mos, heter os are just magically going to stop producing them. How dumb. Where do you think they come from?
Hahah great point Diane, and one that is oft overlooked
dude it's not the gays who are having gay babies is it? You should be put behind a fence and everyone else like you. That way we can breed stupidity out of our world.
Take the time right now to write a letter to the IRS asking them to open an investigation into whether this church has violated law regarding tax-exempt status. The pastor tells people to not vote for Obama and then they posted the video to their website. The address is:
Internal Revenue Service
Exempt Organizations Determinations
P.O. Box 2508
Cincinnati, OH 45201
Thanks for the info. Kevin. I and others may very well take you up on that. So true!
Ignorance and prejudice walk hand in hand.
So we have free speech as long as we agree with everyone. Well that sounds a little Hitler like to me.
This guy has freedom of speech, not freedom from criticism. We should all criticize him until he is afraid to show his face in public again without making a sincere apology.
No one said he shouldn't be allowed to show America how ignorant and hypocritical he is. He is a disgrace to anyone who believes in the concept of the Golden Rule.
Who were you comparing to Hitler? This guy is the one advocating the extermination of a group of people.
With pastor's like him no wonder atheism is growing so fast. Shameful! Makes you wonder how many just like him preach this all the time except don't get caught.
If you keep putting your foot in your mouth, you won't be able to eat.
If a lowlife like Worley can make it to heaven, then we've been lied to about what heaven is.