May 22nd, 2012
11:23 AM ET
Video of North Carolina pastor's plan to 'get rid of' gays goes viral
By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor
(CNN) - Video of a North Carolina pastor preaching that gays and lesbians should be rounded up inside an electric fence is going viral on the Internet, two weeks after North Carolina passed a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage and President Barack Obama voiced personal support for legalizing such marriages.
"I figured a way out, a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers, but I couldn't get it past the Congress," Pastor Charles L. Worley can be seen telling his Providence Road Baptist Church congregation in the video, which had more than 250,000 YouTube views by Tuesday.
"Build a great big, large fence - 50 or a 100 miles long - and put all the lesbians in there,” Worley went on to say in his May 13 sermon at his Maiden, North Carolina, church. “Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals, and have that fence electrified so they can't get out. Feed them. And you know in a few years, they'll die out. You know why? They can't reproduce."
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The video had initially been posted on Providence Road’s website but was recently taken down, according to CNN affiliate WBTV-TV in Charlotte.
The phone line at Worley’s church was busy on Monday night and on Tuesday, as was Worley’s home number on Tuesday.
The church’s website was down Tuesday morning, but it had described the house of worship as fundamentalist, meaning it represents a Baptist tradition that's more conservative than the Southern Baptists.
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Worley’s sermon was posted on YouTube by a group called Catawba Valley Citizens Against Hate, which is organizing a protest at the Providence Road Baptist Church on Sunday.
Addressing his congregation last Sunday, Worley referred to his earlier controversial sermon.
"I talked a little bit, I believe it was last Sunday, on the homosexual lifestyle, and there was a whole lot of people who didn't like what I said," Worley told his congregation Sunday, according to WBTV. "I want to read it out of the Bible, and then we'll go from there."
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“Listen, all of the Sodomites, the lesbians, and all of the ... what's that word? Gays - I didn't wanna say 'queers' - that say we don't love you, I love you more than you love yourself,” Worley said, according to WBTV. “I'm praying for you to be saved."
Worley’s initial sermon was partly framed as a response to Obama’s endorsement of same-sex marriage, which he made in a TV interview a day after North Carolina voters passed a state constitutional amendment banning legal recognition of such marriages and other types of gay unions.
The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, or GLAAD, was working Tuesday to gather criticism of Worley’s comments from other North Carolina pastors.
“I am angry and sick at heart over Pastor Worley's comments,” said the Rev. Dennis Teall-Fleming, pastor at Open Hearts Gathering in Gastonia, North Carolina, in a statement distributed by GLAAD.
“Nothing he says has anything to do with the Gospel of Jesus Christ,” said Teall-Fleming, who leads a Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) congregation. “I call on all Christian and Baptist organizations that have any connection with him to condemn his comments as strongly as I do, including Providence Road Baptist Church of Maiden.”
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OMG...what ignorance, that his congregation didn't walk out on him makes them part of his ignorance. That church should loose their "non-profit status" as well – telling people how to vote in church. America rise up against this – Christians who don't believe this crap, must be out in front on this! Hate pure hate................
Because it doesn't agree with you? How many states take votes and continually make it not marriage status. Should we excommunicate the states? It is continually shoved in all our faces by...well...this pitiful cnn station
Something that you have actively sought out and made a conscious decision to read and comment on has NOT been " shoved in your face ". Big lie #2 as practiced by today's faux Christian.
Quay...churches make a big deal of getting their faithful out there to vote, and case it in pretty verbiage about how it's what God wants. What it really means is drumming up the masses to take rights away from others. That's the only reason these foolish laws have passed.
And if you don't like hearing about it, quit clicking on any link with the word gay in it, you weirdo.
AIDS kills breeders dead!!
It kills indiscriminately.
9 “ Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. 10 At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another. 11 Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many. 12 Because lawlessness is increased, most people’s love will grow cold. 13 But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved. 14 This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.
Pretty Accurate 2000 years after written!! Look at he Topic and these posts!!
At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another.
Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many.
Because lawlessness is increased, most people’s love will grow cold.
Is it cold in here or is it just me??
Doesn't matter. When you're dead you're dead. Bible teaches that.
The "soul" is an Ancient Egyptian notion, (the "ba" and the "ka", .... the Egyptians had TWO souls), passed to the Greeks, in turn passed to the Romans, who used it to scare the populace, and keep them in line, and added it to the Babylonian idea that it could go to a "lower area", (the doctrine of the "Terrible Torments"), which later, Christianity adopted.
Not a biblical thingy, at all.
Plato : "The soul of man is immortal and imperishable."
"The belief that the soul continues its existence after the dissolution of the body is...nowhere expressly taught in Holy Scripture...The belief in the immortality of the soul came to the Jews from contact with Greek thought and chiefly through the philosophy of Plato its principle exponent, who was led to it, through Orphic and Eleusinian mysteries in which Babylonian and Egyptian views were strangely blended" (The Jewish Encyclopedia, article, "Immortality of the Soul").
Origen, Tertullian and Augustine were Platonists.
Tertullian (A.D. 155-220) : "For some things are known even by nature: the immortality of the soul, the instance, is held by many ... I may use, therefore, the opinion of Plato, when he declares: 'Every soul is immortal'"
It is a "pagan" concept, grafted onto the "new cult", just as Saul of Tarsus grafted "salvation" also onto it. It exists NOWHERE in the Old Testament.
Martin Luther : "It is probable, in my opinion, that, with very few exceptions, indeed, the dead sleep in utter insensibility till the day of judgment .... On what authority can it be said that the souls of the dead may not sleep ... in the same way that the living pass in profound slumber the interval between their downlying at night and their uprising in the morning?"
In Genesis the god formed Adam of the mud, not of "spirit", and Adam "became" a living soul. It's what he WAS, not what he "had".
"Nephesh, in general, designates that which has temporary physical life. It means a creature whose life source comes through breathing. This is the same word used frequently in the first chapter of Genesis and elsewhere in reference to animals."
In the bible, even "beasts" are "souls", and "the word nephesh is even used with reference to a dead body".
"The soul is not a separate ent'ity from the body. It is the body".
Ezekiel 18:4 "The soul that sinneth, it shall die."
I Timothy 1:17 "Jesus Christ 'ONLY hath immortality".
"For dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return," Gen. 3:19.
"The dead know not any thing," Eccl. 9:5, 10.
In the day of a man's death, "his thoughts perish" Ps. 146:4.
Sorry to Bust thy Bubble, Bible Boy.
Really sick of the double speak. It is time to end all religion.
Honest question. Where do you get you're moral standard from?
Be quiet you ...you...you Athiest!
Shadow, from our upbringing and prevailing social norms, like verybody else. Why do believers find that concept so hard to grasp? Why do you need a sky-spy looking over you to be moral?
Cheers to that!!!!! As I have heard and still do; The Internet where religions come to die!!!
Oh ok. It's just that every moral philosopher that I've read has been a believer in God/s. Also, I was under the impression that social norms stems from religion. But feel free to correct me.
The golden rule needs no god to guide it. Morality existed long before the bible. Please.
But I'm not only referring to the bible. Most empires, before the bible was written, had a religion to morally guide their society.
I love dick.
OK, it's no longer funny with your post. You should have quit while you were ahead. Now you're just being a troll.
Did you say "head?" hahahaha!
Whenever a gay couple comes into our restaurant we make sure to put some "special" in their food like dog mess or urine. They seem to love it!
I do the same to breeders!!! hahahahaha! good times.
Your mother must be proud.
Whenever you come to our McDonalds we spit in your pop.
what a moron
If reincarnation is real I would come back gayer and hotter every time.
Well, you are half way there already.
If it is real, I'd come back as a German Shepard. I'd love everyone unconditionally just as a true christian should. Ofcourse that would depend on my owner, if I had one, but that's another conversation..
And get led around on a leash and told what to do and think, just like every goooood christian.
Seems like the "an eye for an eye" principle is alive and well...
Now you know what happen to the myans.
If god created man in his own image, does that mean god has a penis ? What does he use it for ?
13 year old virgins, apparently
I'll bet you wish he stuck it in your mouth. Pervert
Before we answer that, tell us why Adam and Eve had belly buttons.
i will never understand how there are people like this minister in the world that are entirely incapable of independent thought.
i can appreciate why after watching a video like this that it is easy to stereo-type all christians – i'm equally disgusted ... please don't be equally ignorant though and lump us all together ... there are idiot police officers, idiot teachers, idiot doctors, idiot plumbers, idiot athiests, and so on ...
@bren222: Hey, Billy Graham, was in NC preaching against gays. Is he not a true Christian ?
A leader needs followers...if his followers would use their critical thinking skills...he would have nobody to lead.
if you heard that a supporter of MADD was arrested for impaired driving, would you stop believing in the principles of that organziation?
Clowns like these self-proclaimed saviours are allowed to breed – and worse, vote? Its these fools that should be locked up and even sterilized. See how they would like them apples!
His thought IS independent, for him. It's just that he is an idiot.
CHRISTIANITY IS THE ENEMY OF A FREE AND PROSPEROUS NATION!
I think being one of the most advanced nations on the planet sort of wipes your opinion out on this.
Kale sin – religion is the enemy of modern society. It is not where we are today that determines that but the direction that we are going. Religion has no place in our society.
Eric don't be so fast to blame GOD for the actions of those who claim to hold his standard. Go slow on this journey...or something important WILL BE MISSED.
@Happy and Moral Atheist- You are welcome to your unique opinion. Of course, thanks to our founding fathers who a part of a predominantly Christian culture, no one is going to really support your opinion and the majority rules. Mostly because they realize that Christianity isn't a danger.
America is so great 🙂
And you say religion is good? The people who is in his church does not know this guy is Jim Jones. This guy and his church is bordering to cult.
They have been eating jesus flesh and drinking his blood too long. All religions are cults.
@One one- and cults are bad why? Just curious because you really don't say.
I say we feed the Christians to the Lions.
Just like the good ol'days.
Hatred begets hatred.
Ignorant Bigots have no place in world.
So all Christians are hateful bigot and they should all burn?
@shadowcandy: atheists are not the ones who preach that anyone who does not believe as they do will burn in hell.
So your're implying that infact all Christians are hateful and should burn?
That seems rather hateful to me.
I think polar bears would do a better job.
What kind of sick, unimaginable, twisted, evil, perverted person-and I use that term loosely-- are you? Throw God-fearing people to the lions? Ok, on the day of your death, when suddenly you feel this searing heat-the kind that even the worst chemical fire cannot replicate-and that is just the prelude to what your eternal life will be like-please tell us again how we need to be thrown to the lions. In the mean time-perhaps you should close your mouth and let people think you a fool–rather than open your mouth and remove all doubt.
@Happy – no, polar bears are all left-pawed, and the bible is clear that left handedness is wrong.
I would have thought English would be required for a job as a pastor in the US.
Who would choose to be straight? It's a risky lifestyle. I mean, you can die of AIDS, end up with an unwanted pregnancy or worse, you have an abortion on your conscience. I'll stick to my hot gay s e x, it's a lot less risky and a whole lot more fun.
yea you are right.. the statistics about the rate of AIDS being so high among gays must be completely made up. yea.. gays cannot transmit STDs.
AIDS: Kills fhags dead
What about the abortions? Funny how you failed to comment on that. At least when we have s e x and unborn child doesn't end up in an abortion clinic trash can.
Stats will prove that far more straight people get AIDS. Ergo: far more straights die of AIDS than the number of gays who have HIV.
@pride That was sooooo original. NOT! AIDS kills africans dead too, it knows no boundaries!
I am sure he felt it was a Christian thing to do to make it plain that he would feed the people that he penned up because he didn't like them ... making it clear he wasn't being abusive, just segregating them. His "congregation" should have walked immediately. Regardless of size.
Dear Pastor "Not So Bright"/"Red Neck" Worley,
o "Abrahamics" like you believe that their god created all of us and of course that includes the g-ay members of the human race. Also, those who have studied ho-mo-se-xuality have determined that there is no choice involved therefore ga-ys are ga-y because god made them that way.
1. The Royal College of Psy-chiatrists stated in 2007:
“ Despite almost a century of psy-choanalytic and psy-chological speculation, there is no substantive evidence to support the suggestion that the nature of parenting or early childhood experiences play any role in the formation of a person’s fundamental heteros-exual or hom-ose-xual orientation. It would appear that s-exual orientation is biological in nature, determined by a complex interplay of ge-netic factors and the early ut-erine environment. Se-xual orientation is therefore not a choice. "
2. "Garcia-Falgueras and Swaab state in the abstract of their 2010 study, "The fe-tal brain develops during the intraut-erine period in the male direction through a direct action of tes-tosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hor-mone surge. In this way, our gender identi-ty (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and s-exual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb. There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender ident–ity or s-exual orientation."[8
3. See also the Philadelphia Inquirer review “Gay Gene, Deconstructed”, 12/12/2011. Said review addresses the following “How do genes associated with ho-mose-xuality avoid being weeded out by Darwinian evolution?”
You use the hyphen far to frequently.
You use the hyphen far too frequently.
• The moderators of this blog have set up a secret forbidden word filter which unfortunately not only will delete or put your comment in the dreaded "waiting for moderation" category but also will do the same to words having fragments of these words. For example, "t-it" is in the set but the filter will also pick up words like Hitt-ite, t-itle, beati-tude, practi-tioner and const-tution. Then there are words like "an-al" thereby flagging words like an-alysis and "c-um" flagging acc-umulate or doc-ument. And there is also "r-a-pe", “a-pe” and “gra-pe”, "s-ex", and "hom-ose-xual". You would think that the moderators would have corrected this by now considering the number of times this has been commented on but they have not. To be safe, I typically add hyphens in any word that said filter might judge "of-fensive".
• Make sure the web address does not have any forbidden word or fragment.
Sum Dude routinely updates the list of forbidden words/fragments.
Two of the most filtered words are those containing the fragments "t-it" and "c-um". To quickly check your comments for these fragments, click on "Edit" on the Tool Bar and then "Find" on the menu. Add a fragment (without hyphens) one at a time in the "Find" slot and the offending fragment will be highlighted in your comments before you hit the Post button. Hyphenate the fragment(s) and then hit Post. And remember more than one full web address will also gain a "Waiting for Moderation".
Zeb’s alphabetical listing
o “bad letter combinations / words to avoid if you want to get past the CNN "awaiting moderation" filter:
Many, if not most, are buried within other words, so use your imagination.
You can use dashes, spaces, or other characters to modify the "offending" letter combinations.
ar-se.....as in Car-se, etc.
co-ck.....as in co-ckatiel, co-ckatrice, co-ckleshell, co-ckles, lubco-ck, etc.
co-on.....as in rac-oon, coc-oon, etc.
cu-m......as in doc-ument, accu-mulate, circu-mnavigate, circu-mstances, cu-mbersome, cuc-umber, etc.
cu-nt.....as in Scu-ntthorpe, a city in the UK famous for having problems with filters...!
ef-fing...as in ef-fing filter
ft-w......as in soft-ware, delft-ware, swift-water, etc.
ho-mo.....as in ho-mo sapiens or ho-mose-xual, ho-mogenous, etc.
ho-rny....as in tho-rny, etc.
jacka-ss...yet "ass" is allowed by itself.....
ja-p......as in j-apanese, ja-pan, j-ape, etc.
koo-ch....as in koo-chie koo..!
pi-s......as in pi-stol, lapi-s, pi-ssed, therapi-st, etc.
pr-ick....as in pri-ckling, pri-ckles, etc.
ra-pe.....as in scra-pe, tra-peze, gr-ape, thera-peutic, sara-pe, etc.
se-x......as in Ess-ex, s-exual, etc.
sh-@t.....but shat is okay – don't use the @ symbol there.
sp-ic.....as in disp-icable, hosp-ice, consp-icuous, susp-icious, sp-icule, sp-ice, etc.
ti-t......as in const-itution, att-itude, ent-ities, alt-itude, beat-itude, etc.
tw-at.....as in wristw-atch, nightw-atchman, etc.
va-g......as in extrava-gant, va-gina, va-grant, va-gue, sava-ge, etc.
who-re....as in who're you kidding / don't forget to put in that apostrophe!
There are more, some of them considered "racist", so do not assume that this list is complete.
Allowed words / not blocked at all:
raping (ra-pe is not ok)
shat (sh-@t is not ok)
The CNN / WordPress filter also filters your EMAIL address and NAME as well – so you might want to check those.
unless god grants you special powers ... then you git ta say whatever the fuck ya want, holy shit, ya done a miracle