May 22nd, 2012
11:23 AM ET
Video of North Carolina pastor's plan to 'get rid of' gays goes viral
By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor
(CNN) - Video of a North Carolina pastor preaching that gays and lesbians should be rounded up inside an electric fence is going viral on the Internet, two weeks after North Carolina passed a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage and President Barack Obama voiced personal support for legalizing such marriages.
"I figured a way out, a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers, but I couldn't get it past the Congress," Pastor Charles L. Worley can be seen telling his Providence Road Baptist Church congregation in the video, which had more than 250,000 YouTube views by Tuesday.
"Build a great big, large fence - 50 or a 100 miles long - and put all the lesbians in there,” Worley went on to say in his May 13 sermon at his Maiden, North Carolina, church. “Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals, and have that fence electrified so they can't get out. Feed them. And you know in a few years, they'll die out. You know why? They can't reproduce."
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The video had initially been posted on Providence Road’s website but was recently taken down, according to CNN affiliate WBTV-TV in Charlotte.
The phone line at Worley’s church was busy on Monday night and on Tuesday, as was Worley’s home number on Tuesday.
The church’s website was down Tuesday morning, but it had described the house of worship as fundamentalist, meaning it represents a Baptist tradition that's more conservative than the Southern Baptists.
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Worley’s sermon was posted on YouTube by a group called Catawba Valley Citizens Against Hate, which is organizing a protest at the Providence Road Baptist Church on Sunday.
Addressing his congregation last Sunday, Worley referred to his earlier controversial sermon.
"I talked a little bit, I believe it was last Sunday, on the homosexual lifestyle, and there was a whole lot of people who didn't like what I said," Worley told his congregation Sunday, according to WBTV. "I want to read it out of the Bible, and then we'll go from there."
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“Listen, all of the Sodomites, the lesbians, and all of the ... what's that word? Gays - I didn't wanna say 'queers' - that say we don't love you, I love you more than you love yourself,” Worley said, according to WBTV. “I'm praying for you to be saved."
Worley’s initial sermon was partly framed as a response to Obama’s endorsement of same-sex marriage, which he made in a TV interview a day after North Carolina voters passed a state constitutional amendment banning legal recognition of such marriages and other types of gay unions.
The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, or GLAAD, was working Tuesday to gather criticism of Worley’s comments from other North Carolina pastors.
“I am angry and sick at heart over Pastor Worley's comments,” said the Rev. Dennis Teall-Fleming, pastor at Open Hearts Gathering in Gastonia, North Carolina, in a statement distributed by GLAAD.
“Nothing he says has anything to do with the Gospel of Jesus Christ,” said Teall-Fleming, who leads a Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) congregation. “I call on all Christian and Baptist organizations that have any connection with him to condemn his comments as strongly as I do, including Providence Road Baptist Church of Maiden.”
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Its funny how gays don't have a personality besides being gay and loving to protest. All they do its jabber on about their orientation. 99% of the country is straight and 80% of the population thinks you are perverted.
If you are lucky we might let you marry but there is no benefit to us so it will get pushed to the back of the pile.
Maybe you can get married underground at a rest area or in a public bathroom.
The proof is in the pudding
Mindless nonsense. Grow up. Get an education so you won't say such ignorantly simple-minded bull.
.. shows how much you know about your own country. Now shut up and get back to your 4th grade text book..
It must be maddening to see people smile at you but know deep down that they would never speak to you again because you willingly engage in disgusting behavior
I am afraid Snow is right. Our country is gone! You should realize this fact! Sin has taken hold, and it will never get better. We are coming to the age of being judged and I am so looking forward to it. I love God! He is so wonderful and forgiving.
"It must be maddening to see people smile at you but know deep down that they would never speak to you again because you willingly engage in disgusting behavior"
Reading your comments, I can imagine the kind of person you are.. so you should understand how it feels, eh?
2bad – You made up everyting that you posted. Lying just makes you look ignorant. As a group, lesbians and gays are more educated and earn more money than the average citizen. They are also approximately 10% of our society. So the bottom line is that they are smarter than you. They make more money than you and they contribute more to society than you. Maybe we should give your rights to them... They're better for our country.
Bruce.....now that was ignorant.
Bruce do you really believe that? Whatever helps you sleep at night.
What you talking about 2bad. Ive never met a person that is gay and only talks about their orientation.
Do you all realize that the greatest of all sins is to deny God? To vehemently deny His existence? To speak the way you all do about Him? I am so sad that out of the 3600 posts here, there is nothing but the same hate this pastor preached. Our society is dead and doomed.
Sin and 2bad – That's the difference between us. You believe that gays are evil and sinful and have no life. I, on the other hand, actually look at the real numbers...you know....scientific numbers. I know that you believe that science is wrong, but it is your very belief that does not allow you to see the truth. I'll pray for you since you both are obviously lost.
How can anyone consider themselves a Christian when they say things like this. I understand that some people don't agree with Gay/Lesbians lifestyles but we as Americans and Christians serve a forgiving and considerate God that knows our heart. God is looking into individuals heart and he will see if these Christians are sincere or not. God is love so how can you serve God when we say things that express hatred? All I'm saying that as Americans and Christians, there is a better way to express ourselves than what we are doing. We are embarrassing ourselves. America is better than this.
Its far from being a Christian thing. No one wants a pervert living next door and preying on the neighborhood children like John Wayne Gacy(Poster Boy for Gays).
Being good and right is not a way to heaven. I don't agree with the sin, I know God does not condone it. Don't confuse goodness and God looking into your heart to determine where you will go when you die. The Bible clearly says that JESUS is the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father, but by me. This means you must only believe that Jesus is your savior! That's it, period.
Good play "Seriously". Yes, American's educate their children; every other country brainwashes theirs. The Psychotic Right is truly frightening: their utter disdain for science, their incredibly narrow view of the world- white and male (even by the women!!!!) and Christian. What huzpah! Arrogance, Ignorance....and ultimately Fear they must feel. It is they who are dieing off and no one is gong to miss them. They have lived long enough to come face to face with their own utter irrelevance.
Remember when Obama goes to a church for campaigning sermons. Will that Church lose its tax exempt status? He did it 4 years ago. An he will do it again. Mainly black Churches. An no one says a word about THEM losing tax exempt status. An this whole thing about this pastor would never make News if CNN did want rating. CNN you are the one who makes and puts stories in the headlines. These stories are just a local talk in a local community.
.. and he caused the hurricanes too.. on Jupiter!
Nothing says Freedom Loving America like Internment Camps .... They'd be great for forced labor ... but after a while they'd be expensive to feed ... I heard that there's this guy in Argentina with blueprints for these high capacity ovens ... it's a biofuel ... that's green right ... MOTHER F'KER is this guy for real?
pastor Charles L. Worley might be a serial child rapist..the fbi needs to check his DNA for evidence...im pretty sure about this
This will be in a campaign commerical very soon. Already spinning it into a political move.
to that commercial i say..... "im definitely agen' it":
How about a fence for insane pastors like this guy?
I would donate $ for that...lol
Right on !
What ever happened to God's love is Unconditional, and it has been given in your so called Bible not to Condemn! Not to Judge! What a wonderful example this stupid man gives the world in God's Love, and God's so called Christianity. What would God do about this?? I shutter to think that these people in the world just like this miserable man, is preaching all this Crap, instead of teaching about peace, and what God's longevity of love, acceptance and Tolerance. Yesserie! we have a Terrorist among us! leading his sheep into the very fires of Hell!. I feel sorry for you!
God didn't create Christianity. Man created Christianity.
Its really crazy how many of the worlds conflicts would cease if people stop believing in fairy tales...and I am one very straight male...
These are not fairy tales, it is all prophesy. The second coming may not be in my lifetime or yours, but it will come. The situation the world is in morally will worsen and deepen.
no such thing as sin - that's a disgusting concept based on self-loathing.
no such thing as god - that's a childsih concept, grow up.
doubtful jesus ever lived, no good evidence
if he ever did live, he didn't do any magic tricks from the bible, he was just a cult leader
the fictional character of jesus said some great things about love, but also supported slavery and other awful things
give up religion. try thinking for yourself. stop reining in your logic and reason. if you want a far superior ethical code to christianity, try Humansim. it's based on reason, responsibility and compassion. the pillars of christianity are guilt, fear and ignorance.
You are the only logical thinker here and I applaud you. I couldn't agree more.
Actually, I didn’t find that to be logical at all. First, there IS a such thing as sin, if you believe there is a such thing as morality. To sin literally means “to miss the mark.” So, if a particular mark of one’s moral code is to not harm people, then someone who commits murder just missed that mark. You mentioned one of the pillars of humanism being compassion. To sin in that worldview would be to act without compassion, like be a jerk to people because they don’t agree with you. Basically, if you have any kind of moral code, it’s kind of hard to deny sin.
Second, saying that God doesn’t exist because you think the concept is childish is not logical at all; that’s a fallacy of subjectivity.
Third, it is actually NOT doubtful that Jesus lived. Historically speaking, it’s doubtful that he didn’t. You’d be hard-pressed to find a historian who would contest his existence.
Fourth, you’re right, he didn’t do magic tricks. He wasn’t a magician. He did a lot of preaching, teaching and healing, though. And I don’t think we would still be talking about him if he was “just a cult leader.” He has influenced the world in a way that no other human being ever has. Atheist or not, you can’t deny that.
Btw, the pillars of Christianity are faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
db, you are part of the cult makes excuses.
it's like he made a commercial for ignorance.
Agreed. The uneducated minister is teaching the even less educated. Personally, I think he was trying to get in the news like the last fool. My opinion
All this sin is in preparation for the return of Christ. The world is losing its collective mind and becoming more and more apart from God. I yearn for the second coming, and will rejoice in my love for God and the everlasting gift he will have given me. We are all sinners, but it is not yet too late to turn to Christ. I hope all of you can achieve this, otherwise you will end up in a very bad place.
you mean Santa Claus.
Sadly, most people don't believe in the book. It makes you wonder when you start to see reality mirror the bible. Is it really a collection of silly stories? Only time will tell
like all other mythologies, yes, they are just stories.
hey, didn't he say that he will come back before the generation that saw christ crucified dies out? and wasn't that like 2000 yrs ago? who here on this earth is over 2000 yrs old then?
and isn't that evidence enough for him not being a god, but just a man? denial, much?
No, you are wrong, the second coming date is unknown to man, and I never deny my love for God!
I'll go out on a limb and agree with you! As sodomites gain the fields of Atheism and religious liberals, The Time will soon arrive! May those who are left holding the bag find reasons to carry on! Blessed are they who stand firm in the principles of Godliness!
I think abusive messages like this pastor gave from a place of authority should be criminal and the person delivering the message be dealt with accordingly.
Look up this pastor's latest hate speech against gays and lesbians. Someone found an older audio of him just yesterday. It involves the words "hanging from an oak tree". This jerk has been preaching extreme hatred against the LGBT minority for a while now.
Sounds like its time to take out the check book and make a donation to this guy. Hopefull he'll keep these perverts busy for a while
ClementiCantFly i hope your future kids are gay and your grand kids. Sucker.
Getting all these fairies and butches upset isn't only easy, its fun!
I wish I could back to my high school days and give these pickle lovers more beatings. Man that was fun!
you have no conscience, only evil...I feel such pity for you...
Your mother must be proud of you.
Brother, you need help.
Why don't you take me on, coward? I weight 260#, and I work out 4 times a week. I bet I could easily kick your azz. I haven't been called a f a g in about 11 years now. Bring it !!
No we didn't need much help. These weirdos are easy to spot and even easier to hold down and slap
We are better than this.
yet there is a whole religion and political party based on this.
With a name like Edwardo I'm sure people call you that all the time.
Sounds like a fun proposition but I don't want you coming to my neighborhood and trying to diddle little boys
To those who say being gay disgusts you with or without religious reasons, I ask you this..
As a Vegetarian, it truly disgusts me that people can slaughter a living thing and chop its bodies into thousand seperate parts and traumatize the meat by mincing, roasting, frying, burning and then eat it knowing full well how a little cut would hurt you lots..
so, should we "const.itutionally ban" meat eating since it disgusts me?
Is anyone else hungry? Pork chops anyone?
Yes we should ban pollen too because it makes my nose itch!
Does being a pervert make you brain suck too?
So you're saying animals should have human rights?
Eating meat and fiish is an issue of consumption! I just love watching the chef taking a knife and cutting up the veggies with delight! Even vegetarians have issues when it comes to eating Life!
I do see some sense in that argument.. since people claim gay marriage disgust them and should be banned, shouldn't other things that disgust other people also should get banned?
Talk about your bully pulpit........pull their tax exempt status.
Consider these quotes, and how you might feel if you lived in a country where these sentiments were mainstream:
“Our leader was not elected…he was appointed by Allah.”
“Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of Allah…must be denied citizenship."
“I, your Provincial Governor, do hereby proclaim… a day of prayer and fasting for our country.”
“Allah called me to this government position…my family fasted for three days to make sure it was true.”
“"I would not put a Christian among my advisors, or in my government."
“(our founding doc.uments) are quite clear that we would create law based on Allah of the Qur’an and Sharia Law, it’s pretty simple.”
“I hope I will live to see the day when…we won't have any public schools. The Mosques will have taken over them over again and Imams will be running them. What a happy day that will be!"
“There will never be world peace until Allah's house and Allah's people are given their rightful place of leadership at the top of the world."
These statements should rightfully alarm you. Now consider this, YOU DO live in that country, and these are not Taliban quotes. In the above quotes the religious references have been changed. They are quotes from prominent, politically powerful Americans who would establish religious control over America’s government. Here are the actual quotes:
“George Bush was not elected by a majority of the voters in the United States, he was appointed by God.” –Lt. General William Boykin, US Army
“Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant–baptism and holy communion–must be denied citizenship." –Gary North, Inst.itute for Christian Economics
“I, Rick Perry, Governor of Texas, do hereby proclaim August 6, 2011, to be A Day of Prayer and Fasting for Our Nation.” –Rick Perry, Texas Governor and Republican Presidential Candidate
“God called me to run for this office, and my husband fasted for 3 days to make sure it was true.” –Michelle Bachman, US Senator and Republican Presidential Candidate
“"I would not put a Muslim in my cabinet, or in my administration." –Herman Cain, Republican Presidential Candidate
“(Our founding doc.uments) are quite clear that we would create law based on the God of the Bible and the 10 commandments, it’s pretty simple.” –Sarah Palin
I hope I will live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken over them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!" - Jerry Falwell
There will never be world peace until God's house and God's people are given their rightful place of leadership at the top of the world." –Pat Robertson
These statements should be no more frightening in an Islamic or a Christian context – this kind of rhetoric is a serious threat no matter who it comes from. Theocracy is dangerous no matter whose God is invoked. We hear these things from pious politicians every day and are likely desensitized to them, but even momentary consideration reveals them to be un-American to the core. Religious fundamentalists make no secret of their goal of controlling our government and establishing their narrow beliefs as law. We must not let that happen – not here, not in our country.
It happens in small steps – the Ten Commandments in courthouses, prayer and creationism (“Intelligent Design”) in schools, revising science, history, and civics textbooks in Texas, State-endorsed prayer rallies, faith-based initiatives, and on and on – and because these steps may individually seem harmless, many people underestimate their consequences. That is why we must stay alert and fight to keep church and state separate. We should shudder whenever a politician or policymaker alludes to his or her religious beliefs as a justification for public policy. We should be deeply suspi.cious of anyone who claims to be chosen by God to lead us. We should aggressively defend our free society against any religious group who would hope to gain control over it.
Do not underestimate the importance of defending the separation of church and state. Stand up for it at every opportunity with your voice and your vote.
Hah.. great comment.. People get appalled when they see such statements in islamic countries, but seem to not mind it at all when their own leaders make the EXACT same statements with "christian love" added to it.. Hypocrisy? Bigotory? Idiotic? all of the above?
Finally a voice of reason.....
I love being gay. Why anyone would choose to be straight is beyond me.
Why not ask your parents?
I do, they just stare at me funny.
Unfortunately you embarrass the rest of us gay people. Glad you don't represent the majority of us. Your parents stared at you funny because you are just plain weird, drunk or a juvenile. Everyone knows it!
So. What. And no you don't, or you and the other LGBT loudmouths would shut up about it once in a while and just live. You all are the worst, most obnoxious bullies out there. Hypocrites.
Well... looks like someone does not have a sense of humor (hint..it's you .upstatenyman).