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May 22nd, 2012
11:23 AM ET
Video of North Carolina pastor's plan to 'get rid of' gays goes viralBy Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor (CNN) - Video of a North Carolina pastor preaching that gays and lesbians should be rounded up inside an electric fence is going viral on the Internet, two weeks after North Carolina passed a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage and President Barack Obama voiced personal support for legalizing such marriages. "I figured a way out, a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers, but I couldn't get it past the Congress," Pastor Charles L. Worley can be seen telling his Providence Road Baptist Church congregation in the video, which had more than 250,000 YouTube views by Tuesday. "Build a great big, large fence - 50 or a 100 miles long - and put all the lesbians in there,” Worley went on to say in his May 13 sermon at his Maiden, North Carolina, church. “Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals, and have that fence electrified so they can't get out. Feed them. And you know in a few years, they'll die out. You know why? They can't reproduce." My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality The video had initially been posted on Providence Road’s website but was recently taken down, according to CNN affiliate WBTV-TV in Charlotte. The phone line at Worley’s church was busy on Monday night and on Tuesday, as was Worley’s home number on Tuesday. The church’s website was down Tuesday morning, but it had described the house of worship as fundamentalist, meaning it represents a Baptist tradition that's more conservative than the Southern Baptists. My Take: The Christian case for gay marriage Worley’s sermon was posted on YouTube by a group called Catawba Valley Citizens Against Hate, which is organizing a protest at the Providence Road Baptist Church on Sunday. Addressing his congregation last Sunday, Worley referred to his earlier controversial sermon. "I talked a little bit, I believe it was last Sunday, on the homosexual lifestyle, and there was a whole lot of people who didn't like what I said," Worley told his congregation Sunday, according to WBTV. "I want to read it out of the Bible, and then we'll go from there." CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories “Listen, all of the Sodomites, the lesbians, and all of the ... what's that word? Gays - I didn't wanna say 'queers' - that say we don't love you, I love you more than you love yourself,” Worley said, according to WBTV. “I'm praying for you to be saved." Worley’s initial sermon was partly framed as a response to Obama’s endorsement of same-sex marriage, which he made in a TV interview a day after North Carolina voters passed a state constitutional amendment banning legal recognition of such marriages and other types of gay unions. The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, or GLAAD, was working Tuesday to gather criticism of Worley’s comments from other North Carolina pastors. “I am angry and sick at heart over Pastor Worley's comments,” said the Rev. Dennis Teall-Fleming, pastor at Open Hearts Gathering in Gastonia, North Carolina, in a statement distributed by GLAAD. “Nothing he says has anything to do with the Gospel of Jesus Christ,” said Teall-Fleming, who leads a Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) congregation. “I call on all Christian and Baptist organizations that have any connection with him to condemn his comments as strongly as I do, including Providence Road Baptist Church of Maiden.” soundoff (5,806 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 Next » |
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haha gotta love religious people. They preach love....as long as it's hetero love.
Gargle, don't confuse religious people with fundamentalists. There are many decent religious folks out there in every faith, but very few decent fundamentalists under any faith!
So, by proposing what he did with the concentration camp and all, by saying that after they all die off the world would be rid of them, I believe he is admitting that orientation is biologically determined, not a lifestyle choice as many of this ilk try to say. So...if it's their biology, as I believe he pretty much said, then God made them that way.
And his comments that "they would all die off, because they can't reproduce". Last time I checked, heteros make baby gay people... not gay people make baby gay people. His sermon makes zero sense!
perfect logic.. But sadly, christians are in too much denial to accept it
They do as long as you don't apply logic to the argument. That is where most religious arguments falls apart.
Every time I hear a preacher using poor grammar and a southern drawl to talk, I feel my IQ drop about 30 points.
Ah yes, preach about placing the oppressed in Concentration Camps and letting them die. First the gays, then maybe the Muslims? Maybe the Asians next.... hatred masked as "religeous preaching" has been going on for centuries. This is why we murder one another...
Sin
Do you all realize that the greatest of all sins is to deny God? To vehemently deny His existence? To speak the way you all do about Him? I am so sad that out of the 3600 posts here, there is nothing but the same hate this pastor preached. Our society is dead and doomed.
Sin doesn't exist. Neither does your God. Your entire premise is based on falsehood. Why should any rational person believe anything you or others like you say?
Why would a god be offended by someone not believing they exist? Why would not believing something be such a horrible crime? There are lots of things I believe or don't believe.
What you just said is sin. Please don't believe me! You must read the word of God! I am not God and only repeat what the Bible says.
Prove it then. If your god exists prove it and not with crackpot theories and old books. I want scientific fact. Put up or shut up. If you can't prove it, it doesn't exist until proven otherwise. Apply some scientific theory to the issue.
The Bible is no different that a volume of Dr. Suess tales. It's a collection of fiction. I have read it.
@Epica – the difference between him and us is... if he proved god existed, we would believe it. If we proved god doesn't exist, he would still think he does.
You want me to prove it? Who am I? I will pray for God to prove it to you. I can tell you that the proof is all around you. The accounts in the Bible are proven by many with way more brain power than me. Google it if you want answers they are so numerous. But one thing you also miss is that we walk by faith. Faith in something we cannot touch or see or feel. God wants us to live by faith.
Epic, you'll get all the proof you need after the last moment of your life. But then it will be too late...what a shame! But at least you will have lived your earthly life convinced of how smart you are, so maybe you can hang your hat on that.
Aww thanks guys! You are the best. I just gotta wonder...what are you going to do when you go for the big sleep. You know...when you lay down for the last time and nothing happens. Use your logic. I know it is scary believe me I wish there was an after life it would be some small comfort but unfortunately it just doesn't make any sense. What makes more sense is that one day you will just put your head down and go to sleep forever. Nothing after that, no more thinking, no more feeling. Just gone. If you can prove me wrong I would love it believe me but I know you can't.
Epica,
I see no reason to argue your point. God is real. When I lay my head down for the last time, I will have everlasting communion with Jesus. Whose communion will you have? Oh right, just dirt...I get it. I hope you change your mind Before you take that last breath because I want to communion with you in heaven and we can all worship our Father forever. How glorious!
Religion was created to explain the unknown that is death. Humans fear the unknown and they needed to create a way to deal with it. It is still around because people can't and don't want to deal with it. Just start thinking about dying and no longer thinking. In a moment you go from thinking and feeling to just gone. You will never think again and never be again. It makes sense people want an answer to what happens afterward. Unfortunately the answer is nothing, we just blink in and out of the cosmos. I hope for you, your god is real if it brings you comfort.
@Sin
You said, "Do you all realize that the greatest of all sins is to deny God?"
Earth to Sin: Wake the fuck up. Your imaginary friend doesn't exist anywhere outside of your own feeble mind. He/she/it isn't any more likely to exist than the Tooth fairy.
You said, "I am so sad that out of the 3600 posts here, there is nothing but the same hate this pastor preached."
No hate for your non-existing god. I don't know a single atheist that hates any god. It's kinda hard to hate something that doesn't exist, you know.
In thousands of years this god of yours hasn't provided a single shred of credible evidence of it's existence, yet it will torment those that don't believe in it for eternity. People that use their intelligence and skepticism and have honest doubts, will be condemned to spend eternity in hell.
Even if there is a creature like your god, he/she/it is one of the worst monsters ever to roam the universe. Your god isn't good by any stretch of the imagination. It is the vilest creature imaginable. That creature is so vile that it puts all earthly monsters to shame. Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot and all murderous dictators are made to look like sissies compared to that monster. Anyone that worships it should have his/her head examined.
You said, "Our society is dead and doomed."
No it isn't. As long as we can get people educated, they'll eventually let go of those silly beliefs. Once they do, we can make some progress.
LinCa......I'll pray for you.
@Sin
You said, "I'll pray for you."
You do that, and I'll think for you.
If most Christians were like Christ, most of the world would be Christian.
Unfortunately most Christians are like this ignorant, hate-filled, lunatic pastor, so most of the world is not Christian.
I think by God allowing gay people to exist, he is not testing the gay people. He is testing the rest of us whether we will treat them with love and compassion. There is nothing wrong with trying to teach our beliefs with long-suffering and humility, with meekness and unfeigned love. But the first attempt to force or coerce someone and God's spirit automatically withdraws from the situation.
God is testing you? Why would an all-knowing being need to test something? The only reason why you would test something, is to find out an answer. Doesn't he already know everything?
Yes, He already knows. But WE have to find out something about ourselves.
Robert
Whatever floats your boat.
So god made "vile gays", to test your superiority to them? He wants to see how you'll react to their "vileness", and if you're real nice, you'll go to heaven. Of course, the "vile gays" will parish because... well, they're inferior, and you're superior.
why test? coz he's bored! can you imagine how much work he has? He worked for like six days 14.7 billion years ago (oops, or 6000 yrs ago).. and then sits back sipping colada for ever and ever..
besides, can you imagine the inefficiency of those 6 days work? a universe that is millions of light years in diameter, but with one puny little rock that can support life .. made in his own image!!.. wow!
shouldn’t the pastor’s speech also be protected?
No, he should be put to death.
He's free to say whatever he wants...except advocate for or against a political figure and still retain his tax exempt status
When you are advocating the rounding up American citizens and putting them in concentration camps until they die off, that's not protected speech.
He also speaks about Obama as a baby killing gay friendly president who should not be voted for. Listen to the entire speech.
Protected how? He's allowed to say it, no one stopped him and as far as we all know he hasn't been arrested, or any other legal action has been taken against him. So how has his speech not been protected? Because people are calling him out on his hate and using their own freedom of speech to condemn his? We're at perfect liberty to say whatever we want about this guy.
Believe it or not Hate Speech is protected. However inciting violence is not. He did not ouright call for violence in the "rounding up" of gays but he is walking a fine line here.
All Hetero males are perverted by nature
You know it's quite possible that your revelation will come to pass dear Christians. But it isn't the world that is coming to an end....it's your religion.
May it rest in peace.
Wish it would happen in my life time! Xtians have made my life hell on earth. They know there's no such thing as hell, so they create it here.
so what's the problem
This guy sounds awfully repressed. Maybe he just needs a good buggerin'.
this pastors makes me sick...im sure his greatest fear is not god but to wake up gay. I hope when he is building that electric fence,he gets hit by LIGHTNING!!!
America don't let God sue you come back to your God before it's too late.
God's going to sue us? Man, I'd like the fee on THAT case!
God's not going to win any lawsuit. All the lawyers are on the other side.
Okay, on the one hand, God's love is unconditional. On the other hand, He has laid down the law on some things (not everything goes–no free for all). So what does a parent do who loves their child unconditionally, yet sees their child doing something that is so self-destructive? Intervene? Or let it go and watch them hurt themselves? When I was four years old, my mom told me not to touch the red-hot burners on her stove. Why? Because she was hate-mongering and wanted to deny me my freedom? Or could it have been because she loved me and knew better what was best for me?
The problem arises when you or anyone else pretends to speak for God or know the mind of God. When God stops making gay people, perhaps he'll give you the right to hate them. But then their will be no point right?
I would would be much more scared to be this pastor than I am being a gay man. Preaching "god's word" can be a dangerous thing. . .especially if you're as dumb as this pastor is. Hiring several body guards would be the smart thing for him to do. The angry mob that is planning on meeting in front of this pastor's church this coming Sunday might not be as peaceful as they are hoping.
If you can't touch a hot stove and without getting burned, that means that either God doesn't love you or your faith isn't strong enough. Pray harder Skippy.
I think in God allowing gay people to exist, he is not testing the gay people. He is testing the rest of us whether we will treat them with love and compassion. There is nothing wrong with trying to teach our beliefs with long-suffering and humility, with meekness and unfeigned love. But the first attempt to force or coerce someone and God's spirit automatically withdraws from the situation.
Just another daily illustration of how rabid and insane the religious right has become in this country.
Is this what Republicans mean when they talk about "freedom"?
The freedom to put those you hate in concentration camps?
The love of a man for a woman and her love for her man is one of the most treasured understandings in God's revealing eyes! I do not hate you yet I do sorrow for your vanities sakes! I do though beseech you to reconsider your own actions and how God views sodomy as being vile and wicked actions! Even the "heteralists" do sometimes commit the actions of sodomy! The five heads of S.e.x.u.a.l.i.s.m with the "heteralist" head being the most prominent and the (4) LGBT heads being the least heightened do hold the five crowns of s.e.x.i.s.m!
The fruits of all Life is in their sensualisms pleasantries giving rise to many ills of socialisms' diseased constructs!
Serpent,
If you REALLY cared about sin and sinners you'd be busy trying to FIX the far greater number of Christian ADULTERERS.
It's all pick-and-choose HYPOCRISY.
@ Observer
If CNN would blog about adulteres I would then so post my views! Since this blog is about gayness, I post my views rebarding thoughts!
Actually – the bible says this about marriage:
Check out this bible verse:
An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord's affairs—how he can please the Lord. But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord's affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband. I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.
1 Corinthians 7:32b–35
So glad you admit they are YOUR views – not those of god as you claim before.
Guess when you were on the "looney phone" to god, you must have hung up before he said "Hey just messing with you....just love folks and quit judging."
Serpent,
So can we expect that you are as diligent in telling all your remarried Christian friends that they are headed to hell unless they divorce and repent?
How many have you told that to? Number please.
Edwardo,
You are correct. The Bible says that marriage is just for those who are not the most religious of Christians. Paul even said people shouldn't get married.
Christians hypocritically avoid discussing that like so much else.
@ Observer
My Life and friendships are not up for debate! But I will say I know of no divorced Christians or even remarried Christians who remain apart from Christ's Truths and God's forgiving Love!
@Observer – I'm glad you got my point for posting that. I always wondered why nuns didn't marry. Then, I saw that scripture and got it. So, all these "extremists" aren't as extreme, and devoted, as they think they are!
2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in [them]; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you, 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
Serpents,
"My Life and friendships are not up for debate! But I will say I know of no divorced Christians or even remarried Christians who remain apart from Christ's Truths and God's forgiving Love!"
In other words, you IGNOR your HYPOCRISY and that of your friends.
No surprise.
Pastors that lead there congratulation to this abomination of preaching really will be held accountable. Small minds think like this.
I feel sad for this Pastor in that he has really never understood Love. God despises Hate and Hate breeds hate but Love being biblical breeds Love and God commands Love
This makes me ashamed to be a Baptist. Such close-minded thinking is pitiful because these people have done nothing wrong. Why should you want to deny someone's happiness just because you do not agree with it? Ignorance is not bliss, it is shameful.