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May 22nd, 2012
11:23 AM ET
Video of North Carolina pastor's plan to 'get rid of' gays goes viralBy Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor (CNN) - Video of a North Carolina pastor preaching that gays and lesbians should be rounded up inside an electric fence is going viral on the Internet, two weeks after North Carolina passed a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage and President Barack Obama voiced personal support for legalizing such marriages. "I figured a way out, a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers, but I couldn't get it past the Congress," Pastor Charles L. Worley can be seen telling his Providence Road Baptist Church congregation in the video, which had more than 250,000 YouTube views by Tuesday. "Build a great big, large fence - 50 or a 100 miles long - and put all the lesbians in there,” Worley went on to say in his May 13 sermon at his Maiden, North Carolina, church. “Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals, and have that fence electrified so they can't get out. Feed them. And you know in a few years, they'll die out. You know why? They can't reproduce." My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality The video had initially been posted on Providence Road’s website but was recently taken down, according to CNN affiliate WBTV-TV in Charlotte. The phone line at Worley’s church was busy on Monday night and on Tuesday, as was Worley’s home number on Tuesday. The church’s website was down Tuesday morning, but it had described the house of worship as fundamentalist, meaning it represents a Baptist tradition that's more conservative than the Southern Baptists. My Take: The Christian case for gay marriage Worley’s sermon was posted on YouTube by a group called Catawba Valley Citizens Against Hate, which is organizing a protest at the Providence Road Baptist Church on Sunday. Addressing his congregation last Sunday, Worley referred to his earlier controversial sermon. "I talked a little bit, I believe it was last Sunday, on the homosexual lifestyle, and there was a whole lot of people who didn't like what I said," Worley told his congregation Sunday, according to WBTV. "I want to read it out of the Bible, and then we'll go from there." CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories “Listen, all of the Sodomites, the lesbians, and all of the ... what's that word? Gays - I didn't wanna say 'queers' - that say we don't love you, I love you more than you love yourself,” Worley said, according to WBTV. “I'm praying for you to be saved." Worley’s initial sermon was partly framed as a response to Obama’s endorsement of same-sex marriage, which he made in a TV interview a day after North Carolina voters passed a state constitutional amendment banning legal recognition of such marriages and other types of gay unions. The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, or GLAAD, was working Tuesday to gather criticism of Worley’s comments from other North Carolina pastors. “I am angry and sick at heart over Pastor Worley's comments,” said the Rev. Dennis Teall-Fleming, pastor at Open Hearts Gathering in Gastonia, North Carolina, in a statement distributed by GLAAD. “Nothing he says has anything to do with the Gospel of Jesus Christ,” said Teall-Fleming, who leads a Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) congregation. “I call on all Christian and Baptist organizations that have any connection with him to condemn his comments as strongly as I do, including Providence Road Baptist Church of Maiden.” soundoff (5,806 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 Next » |
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And you expected what from N.Carolina ? Incest ? Ignorance ? Racism ? Drug & alcohal abuse ? There's nothing in your "good-book" about that ? Must be the North Carolina version of the Good Book is different than ours.......go burn a cross in the neighbors yard or hang somebody and quit bothering the "gueers" !
This sermon is nothing new. I've heard this exact sermon all over the South since the 60's, including which president to vote for. The separation of church and state is no separation at all when one party (Republican) fully represents the interest of the church. It is no wonder that we have never monitored the hate speech coming from most every church most every Sunday. They are a deeply protected class. They scream righteous indignation if their own toes get stepped on, but gladly and actively stomp on gay Americans toes generation after generation after generation with impunity. They have never practiced what they preach.
I wonder if he knows that the way he "figured out" is the same thing as a CONSENTRATION CAMP???? What an idiot. How embarrassing for North Carolina.
Not really! North Carolinians eat this stuff up. They came out in droves to support a ban on gay marriage. This is an example of the feces that Billy Graham can stir up.
Did anyone see CNN interviewing members of this church last night? "Look y'all! God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve"
Apparently they were eyewitnesses to the Garden of Eden. Gullible beyond belief.
No he didn't he made Janet and Jill first......they got bored with each other and he made Steve and Billy.....however Billy was more interestd in Steve than in Janet or Jill.... Exodus verse 1 -10000
There can't be a heaven if Christians went there. To die and go to heaven and be surrounded by these religious morons could only be described as hell.
@Common Sense
"I agree that the message of Christ is beautiful, but do you think he tolerates sin? Do you think sin isn't a big deal to him?"
Speak English, will you already? Your babble falls upon deaf ears. Sin? Give me a break! You are so freakin' delusional it's pathetic. Get a life!
Sorry Nookster! My mistake.
Well Nookster, as you've gathered, there are way too many cretins going to heaven – you're right, it would be a hell.
However, some of us are in the ginormous handbasket to Hell. We're not sure when or where this handbasket will touch down – but we're having one hell of a ride. You are more than welcome to climb aboard.
Voice of Reason is going to be our minister of misplaced posts. I brew a fantastic chilie beer that is available on the Lido deck. We're still looking for an assistant cruise director and a minister of silly walks. You can pick up applications in the Pursers Office.
This whole thing makes me feel ill. Apparently there are a LOT of people out there who hate gays, women, people of color, and many of them claim to a right to their hate based on Christian principles The message of Jesus is absolutely beautiful, but the masses have been manipulated by people who use the Bible as a tool for brainwashing, since, oh, say, 200 AD. Worley is a devil, but he's nothing new.
You didn't mention the hatred of atheists.
Isn’t that pretty fall under the same heading of “brainwashing” with the Christian beliefs… Sounds the same to me
I agree that the message of Christ is beautiful, but do you think he tolerates sin? Do you think sin isn't a big deal to him?
How do you know that Christ considered this a sin? He never said that he did.
@common sense: Love isn't a sin. And you should change your name from Common Sense to Common Idiot.
Voice of Reason
@Common Sense
"I agree that the message of Christ is beautiful, but do you think he tolerates sin? Do you think sin isn't a big deal to him?"
Speak English, will you already? Your babble falls upon deaf ears. Sin? Give me a break! You are so freakin' delusional it's pathetic. Get a life!
Christ never considered hom_ose_xuality a sin??? So your logic is that because Christ didn't directly address this issue that means he somehow condones it?? So by that logic, since Christ never spoke about bes.tiality, rap.e or necr.ophilia that means he is somehow also for it. Please explain this extremely flawed logic. By the way, he was a devout Jew who came to fulfill the mosaic law and be the spotless, sinless lamb.
Here are Jesus' own words:
Mark 10:6: "But at the beginning of creation God 'made them male and female.' 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.' So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."
Another passage from Jesus:
Mark 7:20: "What comes out of a man is what makes him 'unclean.' For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, se_xual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man 'unclean.' "
Since Jesus lays out what it means to be married or in union se_xually above in Mark 10:6....What do you think Jesus is talking about when he mentions 'se_xual immorality' in Mark 7:20?? Any se_x other than within the context of heterose_xual marriage (including lust after anyone other than your spouse), is sin to Jesus. Its very clear what he thinks on this issue.
I didn't say that he did condone, I asked how do you know that he doesn't. As far as I can tell he had no opinion on it.
@ Common Sense – how is being born gay a sin or immoral? Don't you need the freewill to choose to sin or not? Gays don't choose to be gay anymore than left-handed folks choose to be left-handed.
Remember yor god, and his nomadic bronze-age shepherds, didn't have a clue about DNA, gene expression, protein folding, hormonal baths in utero, neuronal plasticity, maternal immune pathways, etc. Quite frankly, they were îdiots about all things scientific. This is just one more thing your god got completely wrong.
This pastor doesn't follow the teachings of christ, he follows the teachings of hitler. Take a group of people you don't like and just put them into a camp until they die. The people defending the pastor are the reason hitler was able to get into power. I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
JM wrote:
"10 While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew’s house, many tax collectors and sinners came and ate with him and his disciples. 11 When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?”
12 On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 13 But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’[a] For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”
So I guess that means you agree with the pastor?
No. I meant that we are supposed to be merciful; instead, we act like we are better than other people.
People toss around the word 'sin' like it refers to a particular group of people and not to every one of us.
Jesus condemned pride, unforgiveness, lack of mercy, hatred...and hung out with the people the self-righteous religious hyprocrites looked down on.
@JM
Sin? Come on, quit being so deluded and irrational. How can you live with a world view like that? You are missing-out on so much.
Yeah, come on JM, Sin is holding you back. Just think of all the things you could do if you were free of your conscience. There wouldn't be anything to keep you from sleeping at night. You could be capable of so much more if there were no objective morality speaking into your life. Afterall, there's no guilt if there's nothing to be guilty about right? Sin is just "holding you back."
If there were no "sin" in the world, we would have no need of a justice system. =>
Sin just means missing the perfect mark (in this case, God's holiness; in our justice system's case, breaking the law of the land).
Never happened!
Tell that to the cops and share that with your kids. => They'll be happy to know there will no longer be any rules in your household.
"Sin? Come on, quit being so deluded and irrational. How can you live with a world view like that?"
Have more than one child. Then when you see your children hit, bite scratch their sibling for something they want you will understand sin. See when a brother bites his sister for control of the remote, do you really believe he learned that from his parents or his environment COME ON, QUITE BEING SO DELUDED AND IRRATIONAL. The desires that rage against the creator and the creative order is something we are birth into. How do you not believe in sin, if you truly understand the definition of the word.
Let the lips of wisdom come to the ear of the enlightened. Hermes Trismegistus
The good preacher left out a lot in his sermon...In the first place you could not detain these people unless you passed laws denying them basic rights of citizenship...and of course they would have to be forbidden from any of the professions..next , in order to make identification easier, these subhumans should be required to wear an identification badge on their clothing, say a pink triangle...
If society is going to feed these animals they should be put to productive work in their compounds, a cheerful slogan would help to keep up their morale...say " work will make you free "...Finally I disagree with the good pastor regarding the time it would take for this subculture to die out...God gave us brains for a reason...I believe there exists a chemical, zyklon b or some such that would be helpful in this regard...
Yes, I believe the Nazi association has already been made.
The only thing this preacher is missing is a certain white suit and pointy hat. This is what the bible calls a "wolf." This guy should be fired. He has no business preaching the gospel.
We do not need Common Sense to live in this world. When you strip him of his keyboard, what is left? Someone who thinks everyone is a bigot but himself. We do not need Common Sense to try to explain everything according to his tiny brain and limited knowledge do we?
A hateful man filled with hate...surely God is watching.
Not sure about the some unknown deity is watching, however man is and we are not amused!
A hate-monger wearing the trappings of a religious man. Come on, NC, do you really believe this is a man of God?
FYI, Mr. Pastor, your "solution" won't cause them to disappear. Pregnancy can happen now without heterose.xual se.x acts, and gays are not incapable of going against their se.xual preferences if they put their minds to it.
They can still reproduce like bunny rabbits if they so choose. It happens all the time. Google "fertility clinic" and you might get a feel for how many babies are born today in a way that did not have not have any necessary relationship to heterose.xual preferences...
But fertility clinics are an abomination aren't they?
@Voice of Reason
Why?
@richunix
It's sarcasm, get it?
Well actually the Catholic church is against the 'killing' of embryos so think IVF is a sin.
Voice of Reason, was worried you turned to the dark side....
Besides the horrific nature of his "idea", he is completely out to lunch since he clearly has no idea that gay people are produced from a heterose.xual act. Where the heck does he think they came from? They are born every day and they are your sons and daughters, brothers and sisters and nieces and nephews. What an ultra-maroon.
What's next Rev. Worley...ovens?????
Don't give him or any of the other fundiots any ideas...the next thing you know we'll have Mark from Middle River messaging him and advocating this.
It might be easier to herd all the gay men into communal "showers".
The butthurt is strong here.
I chose to be Gay the same day YOU chose to be straight.
I've seen the videos of his supporters ...and that's cool that you think this man is an awesome person, but then again ...your not gay so you will not see the harsh side of the same man. We all have a harsh side and it poops out just like a pimple when the conditions are right. I'd like to see him being compassionate to an "openly" gay person. for the supporters that think that gay is any different then you are.... no its not, your God created Humankind ....not gays, that's mankind's creation by choice or as he told you.... FREE WILL. get use to others acting upon it and stop judging them and yourself. Shame on Pastor Worley, Shame on you!
Turd!!
well there you have it... you've been judged harshly "by god."
Here are some quotes from some of the members of the church:
Geneva Sims said she’s been listening to Worley preach the Gospel since the 1970s. She wasn’t surprised by the 71-year-old pastor’s now infamous sermon. In fact, she supports him and his message.
“He had every right to say what he said about putting them in a pen and giving them food,” said Sims. “The Bible says they are worthy of death. He is preaching God’s word.”
Providence Road Baptist Church member Stacey Pritchard agreed.
“Sometimes you’ve got to be scared straight,” she explained. “He is trying to save those people from Hell.”
Pritchard said Worley’s message isn’t one of hate. Instead, she interpreted it as tough love guided by Good Book.
Totally insane! These people will go to their graves believing this s*hit.
i would bet that both of these women spend an inordinate amount of time on their knees
10 While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew’s house, many tax collectors and sinners came and ate with him and his disciples. 11 When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?”
12 On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 13 But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’[a] For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”
@Frank what is the name of your GOD? Just confused, was wondering if it was the GOD of the backyard..or
What !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Frank, you might need to rewash your brain.
Philistines: a person who is guided by materialism and is usually disdainful of intellectual or artistic values.
Pastor Worley is guided by a book and he is disdainful of the intellect and great art of the Gay-Masters, just look around you at all the positives gays have given to the earth.
Was just trying to under the difference between your GOD and the Sumerian gods like An, or the Egyptian gods, RA, Oris and of course the Greeks like ZEUS, HERA, they are GODS too
Stephen F Roberts: “I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”
JM
A lot of churches preach that everyone is terminally ill with evil, and would basically become raging serial killers without a full commitment to being religious, which is ridiculous. Some of the regular church goers seem to fit this category, but most are just basically good people who would continue to be good people even if they never set foot in another church, right?
My point was just that Jesus was merciful while the self-righteous in this story weren't. Nothing has changed.
This might be a better example. =>
9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’
13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’
14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”
We do not need a god or a religion to live in this world. Why can't you people understand this? When you strip away religion and god from this idiot what is left? The truth, he's a bigot. We do not need a god or religion to explain that do we?
We do not need Voice of Reason to live in this world. When you strip him of his keyboard, what is left? Someone who thinks everyone is a bigot but himself. We do not need Voice of Reason to try to explain everything according to his tiny brain and limited knowledge do we?
pot meet kettle, kettle meet pot.
@Common Sense
Shame on you! You just took common sense and gave it a whole new meaning. Go f*uck yourself! You do not have anything in that cranium that science would find remotely interesting.
"The truth, he's a bigot."
the two tenets of atheism God doesn't exist and I hate him.
So prove your assumition for us, how would we live without a creator? How do you even prove something like that? Or are you putting forth another faith based system of rules