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May 23rd, 2012
12:57 PM ET

Mixed reactions around church whose pastor’s anti-gay rant went viral

By Ismael Estrada, CNN

Maiden, North Carolina (CNN) – Just about everyone here is talking about the local pastor who made national headlines this week after a video that features him telling congregants how to “get rid of” gays went viral.

Neighbors of the Providence Road Baptist Church – where a sign advertises “old time religion” - say Pastor Charles Worley is known for being over the top, with one neighbor describing him as “fire and brimstone” whose views are out of sync with much of the surrounding community.

"I figured a way out, a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers, but I couldn't get it past the Congress,” Worley told his church on May 13, in a video that has been seen half a million times on YouTube.

“Build a great big, large fence  50 or 100 miles long  and put all the lesbians in there,” Worley said. “Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals, and have that fence electrified so they can't get out. Feed them. And you know in a few years, they'll die out. You know why? They can't reproduce."

My Take: The Christian case for gay marriage

Some church members, who declined to give their names, defended their pastor, saying his words had been taken out of context. "He said he would feed them!" some church members told CNN, referring to the Worley’s idea for rounding up gays.

Worley “takes a real firm stand on the Bible and what it says about different things,” said church member Joe Heffner. “Whether I like it or not or whether anybody else likes it."

Another church member, who declined to give his name, said that “Being gay and lesbian or homosexual is wrong according to the Bible… it’s Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve."

My Take: The Bible condemns a lot, but here's why we focus on homosexuality

"We love the people, hate the sin, OK? Point blank,” he continued. “You need to lay off my pastor."

The pastor's sermon also attacked President Obama, with Worley saying that "I ain’t going to vote for a baby killer and a homosexual lover."

On Wednesday, the group Americans United for Separation of Church and State filed a complaint with the IRS alleging that Worley violated the rules of his church's tax-exempt status by engaging in political speech against a candidate.

“Pastor Worley’s vicious and mean-spirited assault on gays and lesbians is bad enough,” said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United. “His pulpit command that people not vote for President Obama is a violation of federal tax law. I urge the IRS to act swiftly to investigate this matter.”

Video of the sermon had initially been posted on Providence Road’s website but was recently taken down, according to CNN affiliate WBTV-TV in Charlotte. The phone line at Worley’s church has been busy since Monday night, and Worley’s home number has been busy since Tuesday.

The church’s website has also been down, but it had described the house of worship as fundamentalist, meaning it represents a Baptist tradition that's more conservative than the Southern Baptists.

CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories

Worley’s sermon was posted on YouTube by a group called Catawba Valley Citizens Against Hate, which is organizing a protest at the Providence Road Baptist Church on Sunday.

Addressing his congregation last Sunday, Worley referred to his earlier controversial sermon.

"I talked a little bit, I believe it was last Sunday, on the homosexual lifestyle, and there was a whole lot of people who didn't like what I said," Worley told his congregation Sunday, according to WBTV. "I want to read it out of the Bible, and then we'll go from there."

“Listen, all of the Sodomites, the lesbians, and all of the ... what's that word? Gays  I didn't wanna say 'queers'  that say we don't love you, I love you more than you love yourself,” Worley said, according to WBTV. “I'm praying for you to be saved."

Worley’s initial sermon was partly framed as a response to Obama’s endorsement of same-sex marriage, which he made in a TV interview a day after North Carolina voters passed a state constitutional amendment banning legal recognition of such marriages and other types of gay unions.

The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, or GLAAD, was working Tuesday to gather criticism of Worley’s comments from other North Carolina pastors.

“I am angry and sick at heart over Pastor Worley's comments,” said the Rev. Dennis Teall-Fleming, pastor at Open Hearts Gathering in Gastonia, North Carolina, in a statement distributed by GLAAD.

“Nothing he says has anything to do with the Gospel of Jesus Christ,” said Teall-Fleming, who leads a Disciples of Christ congregation. “I call on all Christian and Baptist organizations that have any connection with him to condemn his comments as strongly as I do, including Providence Road Baptist Church of Maiden.”

–CNN's Dan Gilgoff contributed reporting.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Christianity • Homosexuality • North Carolina

soundoff (1,677 Responses)
  1. Kindness

    For you.
    A thought to consider without a typical ego response

    Accept Jesus christ as your lord and saviour. You never know how soon is too late. Transcend the worldly illusion of enslavement.
    The world denounces truth....

    Accepting Jesus Christ (for me) resulted in something like seeng a new colour. You will see it .....but will not be able to clearly explain it to anyone else..... Its meant to be that way to transend any selfism within you.

    Also... much the world arranges "surrounding dark matter into something to be debated" in such a way that protects/inflates the ego.

    The key is be present and transcend our own desire to physically see evidence. We don't know anyways by defending our own perception of dark matter.

    Currently.... most of us are constructing our own path that suits our sin lifestyle. Were all sinners. Knowing that we are is often an issue. But both christians and non are sinners.

    We don't like to Let go and let god. We want control to some degree. This is what Jesus asks us to do. "Follow me".
    It's the hardest thing to do... but is done by letting the truth of scripture lead you (redemptive revelation)... as I said .

    Try reading corinthians and see if it makes sense to you. Try it without a pre conceived notion of it being a fairy tale.
    See the truth...
    do we do what it says in todays society... is it relevant... so many have not recently read and only hinge their philosophy on what they have heard from som other person...which may have been full of arogance pride or vanity..

    Look closely at the economy ponzi, look at how society idolizes Lust , greed , envy, sloth, pride of life, desire for knowledge, desire for power, desire for revencge,gluttony with food etc .

    Trancsend the temporal world.

    Just think if you can find any truth you can take with you ....in any of these things. When you die your riches go to someone who will spend away your life..... You will be forgotten.... history will repeat iteslf.... the greatest minds knowledge fade or are eventually plagerzed..... your good deeds will be forgotten and only give you a fleeting temporary reward . your learned teachings are forgotten or mutated..... your gold is transfered back to the rullers that rule you through deception. Your grave will grow over . This is truth .

    Trancsend your egoism and free yourself from this dominion of satan. Understand you are a sinner and part of the collective problem of this worldly matrix... Repent.... Repent means knowing (to change) The Holy spirit (within) will convict you beyond what you think you can do by yourself. Grace is given to those who renounce the world. That are" in" the world but not "of " the world.

    Evidence follows faith. Faith does not follow evidence..... Faith above reason in Jesus Christ.

    Faith comes by Reading or Hearing the word of god from the bible . Ask Jesus in faith for dicernment and start reading the new testament... You will be shocked when you lay down your preconceived notions and ....see and hear truth ... see how christ sets an example ... feel the truth....

    Read Ecclesiastes. Read corinthians.

    You cant trancend your own egoism by adapting a world philosophy to suit your needs. Seek the truth in Christ.

    Sell all your cleverness and purchase true bewilderment. You don't get what you want ....you get what you are in christ.

    I promise this has been the truth for me. In Jesus christ .

    Think of what you really have to lose. ...your ego?

    Break the Matrix of illusion that holds your senses captive.

    once you do . you too will have the wisdom of God that comes only through the Holy Spirit. Saved By grace through Faith. Just like seeing a new colour.... can't explain it to a transient caught in the matrix of worldly deception.
    You will also see how the world suppresses this information and distorts it

    You're all smart people . I tell the truth. Its hard to think out of the box when earthly thinking is the box.
    I'ts a personal free experience you can do it free anytime . Don't wait till you are about to die.. START PUTTING YOUR TREASURES WHERE THEY REALLY MATTER >
    Its awsome and It's just between you and Jesus

    my testimony

    June 7, 2012 at 4:26 pm |
    • just sayin

      hit report abuse...spamming

      June 7, 2012 at 4:26 pm |
  2. Kindness

    Kindness
    For you.
    A thought to consider without a typical ego response

    Accept Jesus christ as your lord and saviour. You never know how soon is too late. Transcend the worldly illusion of enslavement.
    The world denounces truth....

    Accepting Jesus Christ (for me) resulted in something like seeng a new colour. You will see it .....but will not be able to clearly explain it to anyone else..... Its meant to be that way to transend any selfism within you.

    Also... much the world arranges "surrounding dark matter into something to be debated" in such a way that protects/inflates the ego.

    The key is be present and transcend our own desire to physically see evidence. We don't know anyways by defending our own perception of dark matter.

    Currently.... most of us are constructing our own path that suits our sin lifestyle. Were all sinners. Knowing that we are is often an issue. But both christians and non are sinners.

    We don't like to Let go and let god. We want control to some degree. This is what Jesus asks us to do. "Let go and let god".
    It's the hardest thing to do... but is done by letting the truth of scripture lead you (redemptive revelation)... as I said .

    Try reading corinthians and see if it makes sense to you. Try it without a pre conceived notion of it being a fairy tale.
    See the truth...
    do we do what it says in todays society... is it relevant... so many have not recently read and only hinge their philosophy on what they have heard from som other person...which may have been full of arogance pride or vanity..

    Look closely at the economy ponzi, look at how society idolizes Lust , greed , envy, sloth, pride of life, desire for knowledge, desire for power, desire for revencge,gluttony with food etc .

    Trancsend the temporal world.

    Just think if you can find any truth you can take with you ....in any of these things. When you die your riches go to someone who will spend away your life..... You will be forgotten.... history will repeat iteslf.... the greatest minds knowledge fade or are eventually plagerzed..... your good deeds will be forgotten and only give you a fleeting temporary reward . your learned teachings are forgotten or mutated..... your gold is transfered back to the rullers that rule you through deception. Your grave will grow over . This is truth .

    Trancsend your egoism and free yourself from this dominion of satan. Understand you are a sinner and part of the collective problem of this worldly matrix... Repent.... Repent means knowing

    Evidence follows faith. Faith does not follow evidence..... Faith above reason in Jesus Christ.

    Faith comes by Reading or Hearing the word of god from the bible . Ask Jesus in faith for dicernment and start reading the new testament... You will be shocked when you lay down your preconceived notions and ....see and hear truth ... see how christ sets an example ... feel the truth....

    Read Ecclesiastes. Read corinthians.

    You cant trancend your own egoism by adapting a world philosophy to suit your needs. Seek the truth in Christ.

    Sell all your cleverness and purchase true bewilderment. You don't get what you want ....you get what you are in christ.

    I promise this has been the truth for me. In Jesus christ .

    Think of what you really have to lose. ...your ego?

    Break the Matrix of illusion that holds your senses captive.

    once you do . you too will have the wisdom of God that comes only through the Holy Spirit. Saved By grace through Faith. Just like seeing a new colour.... can't explain it to a transient caught in the matrix of worldly deception.
    You will also see how the world suppresses this information and distorts it

    You're all smart people . I tell the truth. Its hard to think out of the box when earthly thinking is the box.
    I'ts a personal free experience you can do it free anytime . Don't wait till you are about to die.. START PUTTING YOUR TREASURES WHERE THEY REALLY MATTER >
    Its awsome and It's just between you and Jesus

    June 7, 2012 at 9:29 am |
    • just sayin

      hit report abuse...spamming..

      June 7, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
  3. Phil

    i think its total ok to be gay – I am all for gay alliance!

    Phil

    June 6, 2012 at 10:36 pm |
  4. Kindness

    For you.
    A thought to consider without a typical ego response

    Accept Jesus christ as your lord and saviour. You never know how soon is too late. Transcend the worldly illusion of enslavement.
    The world denounces truth....

    Accepting Jesus Christ (for me) resulted in something like seeng a new colour. You will see it .....but will not be able to clearly explain it to anyone else..... Its meant to be that way to transend any selfism within you.

    Also... much the world arranges "surrounding dark matter into something to be debated" in such a way that protects/inflates the ego.

    The key is be present and transcend our own desire to physically see evidence. We don't know anyways by defending our own perception of dark matter.

    Currently.... most of us are constructing our own path that suits our sin lifestyle. Were all sinners. Knowing that we are is often an issue. But both christians and non are sinners.

    We don't like to Let go and let god. We want control to some degree. This is what Jesus asks us to do. "Let go and let god".
    It's the hardest thing to do... but is done by letting the truth of scripture lead you (redemptive revelation)... as I said .

    Try reading corinthians and see if it makes sense to you. Try it without a pre conceived notion of it being a fairy tale.
    See the truth...
    do we do what it says in todays society... is it relevant... so many have not recently read and only hinge their philosophy on what they have heard from som other person...which may have been full of arogance pride or vanity..

    Look closely at the economy ponzi, look at how society idolizes Lust , greed , envy, sloth, pride of life, desire for knowledge, desire for power, desire for revencge,gluttony with food etc .

    Trancsend the temporal world.

    Just think if you can find any truth you can take with you ....in any of these things. When you die your riches go to someone who will spend away your life..... You will be forgotten.... history will repeat iteslf.... the greatest minds knowledge fade or are eventually plagerzed..... your good deeds will be forgotten and only give you a fleeting temporary reward . your learned teachings are forgotten or mutated..... your gold is transfered back to the rullers that rule you through deception. Your grave will grow over . This is truth .

    Trancsend your egoism and free yourself from this dominion of satan. Understand you are a sinner and part of the collective problem of this worldly matrix... Repent.... Repent means knowing

    Evidence follows faith. Faith does not follow evidence..... Faith above reason in Jesus Christ.

    Faith comes by Reading or Hearing the word of god from the bible . Ask Jesus in faith for dicernment and start reading the new testament... You will be shocked when you lay down your preconceived notions and ....see and hear truth ... see how christ sets an example ... feel the truth....

    Read Ecclesiastes. Read corinthians.

    You cant trancend your own egoism by adapting a world philosophy to suit your needs. Seek the truth in Christ.

    Sell all your cleverness and purchase true bewilderment. You don't get what you want ....you get what you are in christ.

    I promise this has been the truth for me. In Jesus christ .

    Think of what you really have to lose. ...your ego?

    Break the Matrix of illusion that holds your senses captive.

    once you do . you too will have the wisdom of God that comes only through the Holy Spirit. Saved By grace through Faith. Just like seeing a new colour.... can't explain it to a transient caught in the matrix of worldly deception.
    You will also see how the world suppresses this information and distorts it

    You're all smart people . I tell the truth. Its hard to think out of the box when earthly thinking is the box.
    I'ts a personal free experience you can do it free anytime . Don't wait till you are about to die.. START PUTTING YOUR TREASURES WHERE THEY REALLY MATTER >
    Its awsome and It's just between you and Jesus

    June 6, 2012 at 6:12 pm |
  5. Adam C

    Duh, its okay if you gather up people and put them inside an electrified fence, as long as you feed them.

    June 5, 2012 at 2:04 pm |
  6. Jeremiah Dunphy

    "Some church members, who declined to give their names, defended their pastor, saying his words had been taken out of context. "He said he would feed them!""
    WOw!! we would be fed? That makes me feel so much beter. =.= this isn't a preacher this is a full blown Hitler Sycopath, his idea is to make the Holocaust happen again but target only the gays.

    May 29, 2012 at 6:15 am |
  7. Ken

    North Carolina – the poster child for southern ignorance.

    May 28, 2012 at 7:58 pm |
  8. rusty66

    In the US. even the most vile hate speech is protected. HOWEVER, as "Mr." (sic) Worley is now discovering, it is not without consequences.

    May 26, 2012 at 10:46 pm |
  9. Christian Messenger

    I'd really would appreciated it if Chrstians would get back to focusing on Jesus ... @ prayer changes things ,,,, yes prayer changes things ... but the effectual fervent prayer of a Righteous man avails much before God and really changes things for the better according to his perfect plans and ideas..

    So change you name to Effectual fervetn prayer cahnges things for the better... 🙂 🙂

    May 26, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
    • ElmerGantry

      I know Christians have been praying but,

      We still have dictators treating their people in a very repulsive manner,
      We still have famine in large areas of the world,
      We still have human sëx trafficking including in the US
      We still have have massive human abuse in large areas of the world,
      We still have large natural disasters. Tornado alley is bulls eyed on the buckle of the bible belt in the US.

      If prayer changes things, what is it exactly are they praying for. Are they praying for the end of the massive suffering in the world or something more mundane and personal?

      May 26, 2012 at 2:21 pm |
    • ElmerGantry

      If God's plan is "perfect", why does it need to be changed to accommodate some individual's prayer?

      May 26, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
    • BobLoblaw

      Tell you what, you pray for me to "see the light", you can even get as many people to pray along side you, and we will meet back here tomorrow, we can test the results shall we......

      May 28, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
    • Roger

      The problem with some preachers is that they fail to separate the person from the sin – love the sinner and hate the sin. So how do we accomplish this? It is like all habits in life, if we over eat and get fat, we have to change our habit; if we are murdering, we have to stop murdering; in most cases people will be people and they will continue with their habit because that is what they "want" and they "don't care" what the consequences are.

      The pastor's obligation is to help and not rant and rave against a person but they should make it known to the individual that they will have to pay the bill when the time comes; bad habits will reap bad consequences.

      May 28, 2012 at 6:03 pm |
  10. ElmerGantry

    Looks like history repeating,

    The actions that Worley is ranting about are eerily similar to the actions of Heinrich Himmler in 1930's Germany.

    http://calpol25.hubpages.com/hub/Hömosëxuals-The-Forgotten-Victims-Of-The-Nazis
    and
    http://www.holocaust-trc.org/hömosx.htm

    Obvious note (obvious to most) some words in the links have been altered so they will post and link can be seen. Use the words without the diacritical marks.

    May 26, 2012 at 9:38 am |
  11. Nii

    MARKINFL
    Here you are accusing Lot for offering his daughters to gays and at the same time attacking a pastor for condemning gays. I thought Lot wud be your hero! They were holding a gay pride rally n Lot was spoiling the paaartyyy!!! I guess one side of the story is nice!

    May 25, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
    • Primewonk

      Angels are not human. This group of idiots wanted to gang ràpe non-humans. It was bestiality. It wasn't a consensual monogamous loving relationship.

      Not sure why you ignorant fundiots can't differentiate ràpe from consensual sèx. Doesn't say much for your side on how you think of loving relationships.

      May 25, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      What does it matter WHO he was offering his daughter too? Pimping your daughter is pimping your daughter. Sick B@stard

      May 25, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • thinking

      Primewonk: Please discuss the issue, there is no need to insult people you disagree with.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • WASP

      @ nii-tard: read the whole story of lot. he not only tried to pimp out his daughters; he ra-ped them while he was drunk. they then understood what wine did to their father got him drunk and laid with him and had children, incest i believe it is called. so your book is really really sick.

      not to mention the fact that god sent two angels to save this pedi-phile while destroying two towns worth of "gays"......btw sodom was guilty of being unwelcoming to visitors and forcing them into sub-mission by domi-nating them, not really a gay act when you ra-pe the people entering your town by force.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
    • sam

      @thinking – there's no issue to discuss. Nii pulls nonsense like this all the time. Catch up with us, here.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:31 pm |
    • thinking

      Sam- thank you, I guess I'm not sure what issue Nii is trying to present. I don't see how personal attacks help any form of discussion, though.

      May 25, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
    • mandarax

      Among other things, Nii's comment is offensive because it suggests a gay pride rally and gang rape are the same thing. While I agree that personal attacks are not constructive, there is a repugnant ignorance to Nii's worldview that's difficult not to react to negatively.

      May 25, 2012 at 6:23 pm |
    • just sayin

      @wasp
      What story are you reading? That is not how the Biblical account of Lot is portrayed although it supports your preconceived prejudice and hatred to be told that way. God bless

      May 25, 2012 at 6:26 pm |
    • Leo

      Lot knew they wouldn't take his daughters because they were Sod-omites and they thought the Angels were men.

      " Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them.”

      May 25, 2012 at 6:35 pm |
    • ElmerGantry

      @MarkinFL,

      That's exactly the point, all the apologist answers in the world still do not change the fact that Lott was pïmping his daughters to an unruly mob. The apologist answers are nothing more than trying to redirect your attention and the conversation from what is obvious to even the most casual of observers. And why would the apologist do that? Because they have no viable, logical, well reasoned, or well thought out comment.

      May 26, 2012 at 2:50 pm |
  12. Lucifer's Evil Twin

    How do you know when a christian is lying?

    May 25, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
    • mandarax

      When he ends each comment with God Bless?

      May 25, 2012 at 7:10 pm |
  13. Prior

    "So it came to pass that Ver Omesh was gripped by a great famine. So Markon went to the Prophet Articus and asked to go to the forest for food. The prophet bade him be patient, for the Ori provide for all who have faith. But Markon did not believe. So the prophet drew a line in the sand and told him, 'step across and you may do as you wish.' So Markon did and left the village and feasted on wild berries.The fruit was bitter. It did not satisfy him. He longed to return to the village, but found that the line had widened to a great chasm. He called out to the Prophet in fear, but the Prophet said, 'The line has not changed; it is you who have changed. Step across if you truly believe' So Markon prayed for forgiveness and took the first step and the hands of the Ori enveloped all those who welcomed him back."

    "Hallowed are we; hallowed are the Ori."

    May 25, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
  14. Primewonk

    ONE OF THE IGNORANT SOCKPUPPET TROLLS wrote, " There is no such thing as a former Christian."

    So I guess I don't exist. This is going to come as a hell of a surprise to me. I wonder when I'll know?

    May 25, 2012 at 12:15 pm |
    • mandarax

      My bet is that he is going to say that anyone who used to be a Christian was never a real Christian in the first place. He will not recognize the tautology of this.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:56 pm |
    • Prior

      "And those who are prideful and refuse to bow down shall be laid low and made unto dust."

      "Hallowed are the Ori."

      May 25, 2012 at 1:02 pm |
    • just sayin

      At judgement day. God bless

      May 25, 2012 at 1:03 pm |
    • Prior

      @Just Sayin – "Pity not the blind man, for he is hindered not by the visions of this world, but rather pity yourselves, for he will see the light before you do."

      "Hallowed are the children of the Ori."

      May 25, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
    • thinking

      Primewonk, help me understand. You said you are a former christian. How did you become a christian?

      May 25, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
  15. Voice of Reason

    Why don't you f*ucking religious idiot's get your head's out of your a*sses and the bible and think for yourself? Simple-minded morons!

    May 25, 2012 at 11:03 am |
  16. Nii

    ELMER
    De passage is long but u shorten it to suit u. In short suggesting a different course of action is to point out de errors of someone. The Sodomite duely acknowledged this and became even more angry. It was a diplomatic way of saying no. Abraham had tried this with God in the preceding passage.

    May 25, 2012 at 10:14 am |
  17. ElmerGantry

    Lott was so righteous that god saved him and his family.

    Exhibit A: the righteous Lott

    Genesis 19:8
    Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes.

    Now that is an example of doing unto others as you would wish them do unto you?

    Too sad and crazy to say LOL.

    May 25, 2012 at 10:06 am |
    • just sayin

      We already know why YOU think Lot was not righteous, consider why Lot was righteous. God bless

      May 25, 2012 at 10:53 am |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer really does change things

      May 25, 2012 at 10:53 am |
    • MarkinFL

      Are you just sayin that an evil little snit like Lot might do something less evil once in a while?

      May 25, 2012 at 11:08 am |
    • just sayin

      I am saying you do not know what you are talking about and that there is more to the story that you do not consider. God bless

      May 25, 2012 at 12:03 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      Do please justify the pimp to us?

      May 25, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
    • just sayin

      Find the answer yourself. God bless

      May 25, 2012 at 1:04 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Lot was righteous becuase he put the welfare of two strangers above his own daughters.
      This was before he a drunken, incestuous or/gy with them in a cave.

      May 25, 2012 at 1:06 pm |
    • just sayin

      Doc Vestibule your preconceived prejudice and hate is showing. God bless

      May 25, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      just sayin, I've read your little bible a couple of times and I do not see any justification for Lot. That is why I'm curious how you see him as righteous.

      May 25, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Cap'n Sayin Atheism Isn't an Angry Pervert
      Are you denying that Lot's daughters, the very same ones he was ready to give over to be ra/ped by an entire town, later in the story got him drunk in a cave so they could get pregnant by him?

      May 25, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
    • just sayin

      There are parts of the story that are known only to me, no one else understands. I have a secret handshake with God. God bless.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
  18. Honey Badger Dont Care

    Ezekiel 23:19-21

    19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prost itute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. 21 So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled.
    (NIV 1984)

    May 25, 2012 at 10:00 am |
    • just sayin

      This is the only p0rn that God sanctions. God bless

      May 25, 2012 at 4:35 pm |
  19. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    May 25, 2012 at 9:28 am |
  20. Reality

    Dear Pastor "Not So Bright"/"Gay Neck" Worley,->>>>>>

    (ONLY FOR THE NEW MEMBERS)

    o "Abrahamics" like you believe that their god created all of us and of course that includes the g-ay members of the human race. Also, those who have studied ho-mo-se-xuality have determined that there is no choice involved therefore ga-ys are ga-y because god made them that way.

    1. The Royal College of Psy-chiatrists stated in 2007:

    “ Despite almost a century of psy-choanalytic and psy-chological speculation, there is no substantive evidence to support the suggestion that the nature of parenting or early childhood experiences play any role in the formation of a person’s fundamental heteros-exual or hom-ose-xual orientation. It would appear that s-exual orientation is biological in nature, determined by a complex interplay of ge-netic factors and the early ut-erine environment. Se-xual orientation is therefore not a choice.[60] "

    2. "Garcia-Falgueras and Swaab state in the abstract of their 2010 study, "The fe-tal brain develops during the intraut-erine period in the male direction through a direct action of tes-tosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hor-mone surge. In this way, our gender identi-ty (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and s-exual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb. There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender ident–ity or s-exual orientation."[8

    3. See also the Philadelphia Inquirer review “Gay Gene, Deconstructed”, 12/12/2011. Said review addresses the following “How do genes associated with ho-mose-xuality avoid being weeded out by Darwinian evolution?”

    (Note: some words hyphenated to defeat the moderators "secret" word/fragment filter.)
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    May 25, 2012 at 9:04 am |
    • ElmerGantry

      @reality,

      FYI: you may already know, but just in case you don't there are other ways to post "forbidden" words. You can also use diacritical marks in stead of hyphens.

      e.g.,
      Prostïtute
      hòmosëxuality,
      Identîty,
      etc.

      This is a test. I did not know that the word genetic was forbidden!

      May 26, 2012 at 8:59 am |
    • ElmerGantry

      Hmmm, the word genetic is not forbidden. It got through the filter just fine.

      May 26, 2012 at 9:00 am |
    • ElmerGantry

      Thanks Reality,

      I have a question regarding itme no 2. I seem to recall that environmental stress can have an effect on the rate of births that are hömosëxual and that in Germany during WWII this rate was higher than what is considered normal.

      My question is, are you aware of any studies that either support or refute that? That seems plausible, but I am wondering what information is available.

      May 26, 2012 at 9:12 am |
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