May 28th, 2012
11:56 AM ET

Pastor's comments about gays draw protesters

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN)–Hundreds of protesters gathered this weekend in Maiden, North Carolina, to voice their displeasure with a pastor's statement that gays and lesbians should be rounded up behind electric fences.

Sheriff Coy Reid estimated between 1,500 and 2,000 protestors came to the Catawba County Justice Center for a peaceful protest on Sunday. He said only two citations for noise violations were issued and there were no arrests.

The protest was organized by the Catawba Valley Citizens Against Hate in response to a Mother's Day sermon by Pastor Charles Worley at Providence Road Baptist Church in Maiden.

"I figured a way out, a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers, but I couldn't get it past the Congress," Worley said to his congregation on May 13. A video of his comments went viral on YouTube.

"Build a great big, large fence - 50 or 100 miles long - and put all the lesbians in there," Worley said. "Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals, and have that fence electrified so they can't get out. Feed them. And you know in a few years, they'll die out. You know why? They can't reproduce."

Protestors chanted, "Love not hate," as the lined the road outside the Justice Center, which is 12 miles from thechurch.

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Organizers of the protest said they wanted to counter what they called the pastor's hateful words with love and stressed prior to the event that "our Peace Keepers will respond quickly and vigorously to any behavior that detracts from the peaceful, non-violent plans of this event."

On Friday night, vandals targeted the Providence Road Baptist Church, Lt. Daryl McCarty of the Catawba County Sheriff's office told CNN. "It appears that someone tried to set the air conditioning unit on fire in retaliation about his remarks against homosexuals and lesbians from the pulpit."

McCarty said there was "no extensive damage or anything. The incident appears to have happened on Friday night. It wasn't a big enough fire. It only burned the cover off of some wires."

An electric company easily repaired the damage Saturday, according to McCarty.

Sheriff Reid said trash was lit under the air conditioning unit to start the fire. The unit is up against a brick wall and he said it did not seem like the vandals were attempting to burn down the building, saying, "It appeared they were trying to disrupt the service."

The local fire marshal and a sheriff's deputy are investigating the fire further, Reid said.

He also noted that Worley had received death threats after his comments and his department was actively following up on them.

Repeated calls by CNN to the church and to the pastor's home for comment have not been returned. When Worley was approached outside his home on Sunday by CNN's Gary Tuchman and asked whether he would take back any of his comments, the pastor declined to comment.

The church's website has also been down, but it had described the house of worship as independent and fundamentalist. It represents a Baptist tradition self-described as "old-time religion" and the website said church members consider the 1611 King James Version of the Bible to be the "inerrant Word of God."

The church appears to be unconnected with any broader denomination. The Southern Baptist Convention, the nation's largest Baptist group, noted the Providence Road Baptist in Maiden is not affiliated with its 16-million member denomination and condemned the pastor's comments.

Last week in Maiden, members of the church vigorously defended their pastor, who has been at the church for more than two decades.

Some church members, who declined to give their names, said his words had been taken out of context. "He said he would feed them!" some church members told CNN, referring to the Worley's idea for rounding up gays.
Worley "takes a real firm stand on the Bible and what it says about different things," said church member Joe Heffner. "Whether I like it or not or whether anybody else likes it."

Another church member, who declined to give his name, said that "being gay and lesbian or homosexual is wrong according to the Bible. ... It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve."

The sheriff said his deputies will be paying extra attention to the church building in the wake of the vandalism and threats. The church has about 300 members, he said.

Reid, who has been with the sheriff's department since 1979, said the area had never seen anything quite like this.
"We hope it's over," he said. "The protestors have had their say now, so we're hoping it all dies down."

-CNN's Dan Gilgoff, Ismael Estrada, Gary Tuchman, and Rick Martin contributed to this article.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Belief • Christianity • Church • Homosexuality

soundoff (1,365 Responses)
  1. Brother Maynard

    Somthing I've never been able to wrap my head around –
    I've heard countless times from the X-tians that being gay is a choice. Gay men and women choose to violate their 'natural' feelings and have s.ex with others than the opposite s.ex.
    OK, for one second, let's assume that this IS indeed the truth
    X-tians please show me that God is not influencing this choice. I've heard that man has free will , but God has influence decisions before Exodus 9:12. How do you know that god is not doing the same thing with gay individuals ( or to you for that matter ) ?

    May 29, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • Atheist Hunter

      Cause his word forbids it and calls it an abomination.

      May 29, 2012 at 1:49 pm |
    • Bob

      "Atheist Hunter", as usual I see you spreading hate on the CNN forums. It's not surprising, given that the Christian book of nasty AKA the bible has god demanding such hate and violence in it, such as this stuff:

      Numbers 31:17-18
      17 Now kiII all the boys. And kiII every woman who has slept with a man,
      18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

      Deuteronomy 13:6 – “If your brother, your mother’s son or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul entice you secretly, saying, let us go and serve other gods … you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death”

      Note that the bible is also very clear that you should sacrifice and burn an animal today because the smell makes sicko Christian sky fairy happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.

      Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.

      And then, if you disagree with my interpretation, ask yourself how it is that your "god" couldn't come up with a better way to communicate than a book that is so readily subject to so many interpretations and to being taken "out of context", and has so many mistakes in it. Pretty pathetic god that you've made for yourself.

      So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement. Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.

      May 29, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • Mass Debater

      "why wont god heal amputees?" Because he can't and is just too weak, or won't because he's a dick, or no amputee has ever been deserving enough, or most likely he doesn't exist.

      May 29, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
    • Brother Maynard

      AH sez:
      Cause his word forbids it and calls it an abomination.

      How do you know that this is not just god hardening YOUR heart to this conclusion? The way god did to Pharoh?

      May 29, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
    • sam stone

      A.H.....i see you continue to confuse god with iron age sheep mounters

      May 30, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
  2. TheNaturalWay


    someone here asked why all the trolls are out.

    I dont go to church, and dont care for this kind of wedge issue...

    If I were in NC, I would vote against amendment 1.

    Just a bored net-dude trolling to see how people will react.

    I think fixing the economy for the 99% is Job # 1, the 1% have too much control.

    Sorry if I upset anyone in my troll-athon.

    May 29, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
    • TheNaturalWay

      I want trolling about the state needing to get out of the marriage racket. That WILL solve all the problems. who can tell "I dont think they deserve health insurance coz they are X" { X = black, gay, whatever...} Well when they say that they are exposed for who they are. No leg to stand on.

      May 29, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
    • TheNaturalWay

      oops meant 'wasnt' not 'want'

      May 29, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
    • TheNaturalWay

      and I didnt sabotage anyone's career

      May 29, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
  3. Byrd

    This pastor got what he wanted and due to the # of comments here is still getting what he wanted ATTENTION!

    May 29, 2012 at 12:54 pm |
  4. bob dobalina

    I would have love to be the first one to put a nail through Christ......oh if only wire coat hangers existed back when Christ was almost born....we could have avoided so much ignorance and death......

    May 29, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
    • J.W

      That is just sick and wrong.

      May 29, 2012 at 12:50 pm |
    • j

      Actually it's great!!! LOLOL How far is his statement from truth?? Not far at all...

      May 29, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
    • Atheist Hunter

      Bob.....you did and you still are and he let you cause he loves you that much.

      May 29, 2012 at 1:52 pm |
  5. Jo-Jo the Duck

    You are all blind. Convert and follow the Flying Spaghetti Monster... Touch his noodly appendage!

    May 29, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
  6. wisdomVS

    "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God." Now, tell me if you can, who has a right to cast a stone at the gay community or anyone else?!

    May 29, 2012 at 11:48 am |
    • Frank


      May 29, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
    • Bleah

      Since I am without sin, I can chuck rocks at anyone's head that I want. All you religious nuts better stay off my lawn!

      May 29, 2012 at 12:33 pm |
  7. wisdomVS

    If God is love and his love is unconditional, then God's love is extended to ALL. Which makes the church the devil's representative when it promotes hate, prejuidce, bigotry and separation of people by any means.

    May 29, 2012 at 11:40 am |
  8. TheNaturalWay

    As long as people abuse me, I wont post on this article. @ Tom, did you miss your meds?

    May 29, 2012 at 11:29 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Whwhhwaaaaahhhhh, boo hoo! Oh, please, don't throw me in the briar patch!

      Idiot. Are you leaving? Or are you just teasing us?

      Do you really think anyone cares if you post?

      May 29, 2012 at 11:31 am |
    • Mass Debater

      "As long as people abuse me, I wont post on this article." Who is really doing the abusing? The ones denying other people equal rights or the ones having their rights denied?

      May 29, 2012 at 11:36 am |
    • TheNaturalWay

      I have african american friends who are MAD that their struggle is being compared to what the deviants want. they said to me (almost literally) : "I cant help it that im black. also I never saw them being pushed to the back of the bus. Their behavior cant be protected like my race is."

      May 29, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
    • Primewonk

      Black people are born black.

      Gay people are born gay.

      Black people are discriminated against.

      Gay people are discriminated against.

      Black people are denigrated, castigated, beaten, bashed, and killed, for being born black.

      Gay people are denigrated, castigated, beaten, bashed, and killed, for being born gay.

      Some religious black people now have the idiotic mindset of, "I got mine – scrèw you".

      Bigotry against black folks is wrong. Bigotry against gay folks is wrong. Bigotry BY black folks is wrong.

      May 29, 2012 at 1:00 pm |
  9. Mass Debater

    Why don't the people who continue to deny equal rights to gays admit that they want some legal designation that separates them from other Americans. Just admit you want to continue legalized apartheid in America, you know, a claim of separate but equal where marriage is the pristine drinking fountain and civil unions are the rusty water spigot out back.

    May 29, 2012 at 11:28 am |
    • TheNaturalWay

      The state should get out of the marriage business. Churches, temples, synagogues, whatever will marry people. The state will issue 'partner licenses' which come for a fee, and include all the benefits (health benefits, survivorship, whatever). If one gets married but does not get a partner license then the marriage is a piece of toilet paper. The equivalent of divorce will be termination of agreement, will come with all the mess that it does now.

      This way the g*ys get their civil rights, and my marriage remaisn between me and my church.

      May 29, 2012 at 12:48 pm |
    • myweightinwords

      @The Natural Way,

      And all of the churches, synagogues and other religious inst.itutions that WILL happily marry gay people will still perform wedding ceremonies and gay people will still be married.

      The truth is, it should go the other way. Marriage is a civil matter. All should have equal access to marriage. If a church does not want to officiate for gay couples, they don't have to. Your marriage is STILL a matter between you, your spouse and your church.

      May 29, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
  10. DOCFEE

    Once again a local bigot changes the nations(and world) preception of North Carolina. He needs to team up with Rep. Virginia Fox and push the Republican agenda. There is still a small glimmer of hope that we may recover economicaly if we can bring in investment from outside sources, till they see these throw backs from the 1800's. Break out the horses and white sheets and show your true values.

    May 29, 2012 at 11:22 am |
    • Primewonk

      Amendment 1 passed with 61% of the vote.. I think we all understand exactly what type of folks live in North Carolina.

      May 29, 2012 at 11:35 am |
    • wisdomVS

      I live in North Carolina and I hate this kind of venomous crap coming from pulpits across the state... yes, it has KKK written all over it!

      May 29, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • Primewonk

      And yet, again, 61% voted for Amendment 1. You have this pastor wanting gays in concentration camps. You have another "man of god" telling you to beat your kids if they act "gay".

      And a couple states over, in Mississippi, half of all repiblicans – in a recent poll_ say that interracial marriage should be illegal. And 88% said President Obama is not a Christian, and 52% said he was a Muslim.

      " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. " Looks like a lot of you have decided to do nothing.

      May 29, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
    • luigim

      Reverend Worlock should be stripped of his Pastorhood. He is a menace to all. He has brought shame and disgrace to the state of North Carolina.

      May 29, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
  11. pip

    Religion is a myth

    May 29, 2012 at 11:05 am |
    • What

      Sick religion

      May 29, 2012 at 11:13 am |
  12. TheNaturalWay

    how about a national referendum on deviant marriage (in whatever form)?

    (they say: noooo we'll lose, we will get what we want thru unelected judges)

    May 29, 2012 at 11:00 am |
    • Mass Debater

      Right, just like when we voted to legalize interracial marriage, it took a few attempts but eventually people looked past their bigoted racist views and did the right thing.

      May 29, 2012 at 11:06 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oh, and your pal, David? Sorry, but if the best you can come up with is an article/book from 13 YEARS AGO, epic fail, honey pie.

      May 29, 2012 at 11:06 am |
    • Bleah

      Someone's accuracy with the reply button is fail.
      Not epic, but still...

      May 29, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
  13. TheNaturalWay

    @ Tom Piper's son

    This is an open reply to your abuse

    You asked me for proof in one thread, I gave it. You ignore it and insist on abusing me. I shall not respond to this.

    Have a good day. Repeating the proof I posted:

    t – i – n – y – u – r – l DOT c – o – m SLASH yebe4k

    also look up 'David Popenoe'. He is one of the many researches who have proved that a kid needs mom and dad

    Have a Good day. I'll pray for you.

    May 29, 2012 at 10:54 am |
    • TheNaturalWay

      here i refer to proof connecting g*ys with ped*fylia

      May 29, 2012 at 10:59 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You don't HAVE any proof, you loser. There IS no connection between marriage between two CONSENTING ADULTS and pedophilia.

      Does it hurt to be so stupid?

      May 29, 2012 at 11:00 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You truly are boneheaded, Nut-you-are. The piece you cited is an OPINION piece. Not fact. Not a study. Not relevant in even a tangential way to the issue.

      Don't be late for your job at MickeyD's. You need to pay rent on that room in mommy's basement.

      May 29, 2012 at 11:04 am |
    • Mass Debater

      " look up 'David Popenoe'. He is one of the many researches who have proved that a kid needs mom and dad"

      I did and almost all the studies he performed were with families without fathers vs a control group with both mother and father involved, none of his research is inclusive of gay parents, he is just using the data of mom + dad > no dad to make the assumption that dad + dad or mom + mom must be < mom + dad. It's simplistic at best and flawed on the face of it, so to use this to support your position it shows how desperate those that cling to their bigoted hate are getting.

      May 29, 2012 at 11:15 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Looks like Naturally Ignorant ran away; probably his best strategy yet, considering he has nothing.

      May 29, 2012 at 11:24 am |
    • TheNaturalWay

      Im not one for taking abuse so im out of here.

      The thing from the 'opinion' piece is that early in its life, the g*y movement included organizattions like NA*M*B*L*A

      Other historical articles suggest that they supported 'other s*xuality' in a big way. you wnt see me posting anything here. BYE.

      May 29, 2012 at 11:27 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Thanks for proving that you ignoramuses have NO proof, NO studies, nothing but your own bigotry, Naturally Stupid. Now get moving, you little dweeb, and don't let the door hit you in your scrawny ass.

      May 29, 2012 at 11:29 am |
    • TheNaturalWay

      yeah so dad + mom > mom. Now if you have 2 moms or 1 mom its the same thing. mom cant teach what did will. the equation still holds.
      I dont know if anyone did research on dad + mom vs just dad . I have a gut feeling it will be dad + mom > just dad.

      Simple isnt it?

      May 29, 2012 at 11:32 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Just put a period after "I have no idea", Neuter, and you'll have the first fact you've posted yet.

      May 29, 2012 at 11:33 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      What do you, in your crazed brain-pan, imagine that any parent, male OR female, "can't teach" that someone of the opposite gender can? Furthermore, you dumb sh!t, do you think the children of same gender parents grow up without aunts, uncles, grandfathers and grandmothers?

      You are confirming with every post what I first supposed: you're a 16-year-old.

      May 29, 2012 at 11:36 am |
    • Mass Debater

      "I have a gut feeling" That is the problem, all of you who deny equal rights to gays are doing based on no research, just your "gut feeling" that being gay to you is icky. Beyond that you attempt to use a religious book to enforce laws on a country that's own const.itution forbids the government from establishing any religion. You have no ground to stand on now that you have been exposed for your bigoted "gut feelings".

      May 29, 2012 at 11:49 am |
  14. SRC

    Why is it that gays and lesbians cannot tolerate in the slightest those who express disagreement with their lifestyles? Why are gays and lesbians so intolerant and non-supportive of free speech unless they are the ones speaking? Why are gays and lesbians so insecure that they consider viewpoints that are divergent from their own as "hate speech?" Why are gays and lesbians so insistent on shouting down others of whose views they are totally intolerant? I guess gays and lesbians are as human and hypocritical as everyone else. I wish they would just shut up and mind their own business.

    May 29, 2012 at 10:41 am |
    • ......................................................

      AL big peepl R bigots! thae wir boorn that wae! I tho waz born without a daddee! Mum mareed wehn I was 4 and to a druncard! Dum mummee!

      May 29, 2012 at 10:50 am |
    • Primewonk

      There is a difference between free speech and hate speech that incites violence.

      There is difference between thinking your version of an invisible magical skydaddy wants you to think gays are icky, and legislating discrimination against a group of US citizens.

      If a group of îdiots got together and decided that you should not have certain civil rights, for no clear and compelling reason, how would you take it?

      May 29, 2012 at 10:51 am |
    • Mass Debater

      "those who express disagreement with their lifestyles"

      Right, just like when blacks couldn't drink from the same fountains or sit at the same lunch counters, why were they so upset at whites "disagreement" with their lifestyle of apartheid?

      You are a fvcking moron if you think this is about "disagreements" as if this was just a simple misunderstanding. This is an issue of oppression and denying equal tax paying citizens the same rights their straight counterparts enjoy. Fvck you and the white KKK horse you rode in on.

      May 29, 2012 at 10:52 am |
    • TheNaturalWay

      You hit the nail on the head!

      When a referendum goes their way they expect us to back down. When it doesnt they challenge it in court. Fact is, whenever the PEOPLE have voted, deviant marriage has LOST!

      May 29, 2012 at 10:56 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oh, bushwa. Eventually the same thing will occur with gay marriage as occurred with the civil rights movement: it will go to the courts and the SCOTUS will decide the matter. And the supposed "majority" who oppose gay marriage will be overruled under the law. Look up 'tyranny of the majority', Naturally Witless.

      May 29, 2012 at 10:59 am |
    • Mass Debater

      "When it doesnt they challenge it in court. Fact is, whenever the PEOPLE have voted, deviant marriage has LOST!"

      The people voted to give women a vote. The people voted to give blacks a vote, and voted to allow interracial marriage which at one time was considered "deviant" so where are you examples to support your position? I'm beginning to think TheNaturalway your parents woke you up each morning was to drop you on your head.

      May 29, 2012 at 11:04 am |
    • mema

      Debater...Being black is not a lifestyle, its a race. Gays are not oppressed they can be together and arr afforded equal tax rights as any other tax payer. The issue is in what benefits a married couple revieves in benefits. That they want to redefine marriage. Taxes should not be based on lifestyle. Our bodies were made for relations with the opposite s€x, this is true regarless if one believes in cr€ation or ev©lution. Our bodies in time will show the effects of using them against d€sign, I know I have seen it daily working in a field that affords me this insight. I know many people do not want to know that part of it but it is a fact and true. There is nothing n@tural about it. That is a fact.

      May 29, 2012 at 11:24 am |
    • J.W

      What are the mutations that are caused by hom0s3xuality?

      May 29, 2012 at 11:32 am |
    • Primewonk

      @ mema – for the bajillionth time, being born gay is an orientation, not a lifestyle choice. Gays are discriminated against all the times. In many states they can be fired for being gay. The can be denied housing because they are gay. In 42 states they can be denied marriage, becaue they are gay.

      I wonder why you are unable or unwilling to understand this?

      May 29, 2012 at 11:42 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Because she's an idiot.

      May 29, 2012 at 11:43 am |
    • mema

      No mutations as they can not repr©duce. As I have never seen a child born from a rear end. You though may be an exception.

      May 29, 2012 at 11:47 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      How ignorant can you possibly be? OF COURSE gays can reproduce. They're not sterile, you moron.

      May 29, 2012 at 11:49 am |
    • Mass Debater

      @mema – "Gays are not oppressed they can be together and arr afforded equal tax rights as any other tax payer." Which country do you live in as this is not true here in America as any gay couple will tell you. And even in the states where civil unions are as close as they can get to marriage when it comes to benefits, what harm is done to you by letting them call their relationships "marriage"? You seem to be implying that only male + female relationships that can produce offspring should be equal, so what about men or women who are unable to have children? Or older couples past their prime? Or couples who simply choose not to have children? Why do you feel the need to point out gays for your derision? Or is that the only way you can feel good about yourself, by putting others down thus elevating your own status as a "straight married" person?

      May 29, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
    • YeahRight

      "There is nothing n@tural about it. That is a fact."

      Gay relationships have been documented in 1500 other species. The experts have stated that heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of human sexuality. Both have been documented in many different cultures and historical eras. Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay, and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience.

      May 29, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
    • sam stone

      Why are bigots so insistent on calling an orientation a "lifestyle"

      Who is shutting down this big mouth's freedom of speech

      Why do bigots think that anyone challenging their bigotry is gay or lesbian?

      May 30, 2012 at 1:19 pm |
    • sam stone

      "Being black is not a lifestyle, its a race."

      It is a lifestyle for those who choose to adopt portions of african american culture.

      How is orientation a lifestyle?

      May 30, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
    • sam stone

      "Taxes should not be based on lifestyle"

      Really? So married people should be taxed at the same rate as single people?

      May 30, 2012 at 1:25 pm |
  15. MarkinFL

    This whole thread seems to be a contest between trolls and seriously deranged bigots or probably just trolls.

    May 29, 2012 at 10:41 am |
    • ......................................................

      Biggutz roanups! Thae trollz 2! LoL! I am neethr! 2 yung to B a bigot or a trol! Pleeeez someone suk my c0k! I am soh hurnee!

      May 29, 2012 at 10:56 am |
  16. ......................................................

    Im bord! kan any 1 pleez suk my dik? Plleeeeezzz!

    May 29, 2012 at 10:18 am |
    • mema

      Troll shouldnt you be in school. What are you like ten years old?! Go ask you mom if you even have permission to be online. As far as your request, do that yourself.

      May 29, 2012 at 10:33 am |
    • ......................................................

      Skewl iz out dum futz! At leest 4 me it iz! Mi parentz R too bzee & thae rnt my reel mum N dad! They dunt care bout me aneewayz! bee sidz I am a pree vertd or so they sae!

      May 29, 2012 at 10:42 am |
  17. wisdomVS

    The Bible says 10 times more about divorce and adultry than it does about gays, yet the church is full of divorced and remarried people. This is a sin on top of a sin. So, tell me now who is going to hell?

    May 29, 2012 at 10:04 am |
    • ......................................................

      Been to hell lately? watz it lik? Hot? flam brouling? nevr ben ther misef!

      May 29, 2012 at 10:11 am |
    • Primewonk

      @ redundant .

      Logic fail. Spelling fail. Punctuation fail. Syntax fail. Grammar fail.

      In the immortal wwords of Dean Wormer, "Son, fat, drunk, and stupid, is no way to ggo through life".

      May 29, 2012 at 10:16 am |
    • ......................................................

      go bal to pla'in with your prima donna, you insectooas booger man! LoL

      May 29, 2012 at 10:22 am |
    • mema

      Wisdom..You are right. Divorce is way too common. It is also true that the bible says God will "judge fornicators and adulters". However those sins can be a one time sin. God can forgive sin if not made into a practice of willfull sin. When one practices sin then the bible says there is "no room left for forgiveness". Besides just to make some clarification, the word 'hell' is no where

      May 29, 2012 at 10:23 am |
    • thereismore

      Those who reject the savation of Jesus. No matter what their sin. This is the only sin that gets one into hell. Just as the only way to get to heaven is the belief and acceptance of Jesus as savior. Jesus did His job so that people would understand that this life is no longer about battling the sins, but about seeking His heart to guide your path. If one worries and stresses about (their or another's) acts alone, they will never fully understand Jesus and will stay in the trap of the dark one.

      May 29, 2012 at 10:24 am |
    • mema

      ...in the original texts of the bible. It seems many religions have adopted Danté concept of hell as a fear tactic. However God should not be served out of fear but out of love and respect. Even as a Christian I find these teachings frustrating and sinfull on the part of Christianity that adopts or alters the bible in any way, regardless of the intention. But God will judge. I leave it in His hands.

      May 29, 2012 at 10:28 am |
    • Primewonk

      In order to "sin", you have to be able to choose to sin or not. Your god claims it's freewill. Although, an omniscient omnipotent precludes the existence of freewill.

      Gays are born gay. They do not choose to be gay, The have no freewill to be gay or straight. Thus there is no sin. Also, there are 1500+ species of hômosèxual animals. Do animals sin? Do animals have freewill?

      Sorry, but this is just another thing your version of a god totally screwed up.

      May 29, 2012 at 10:31 am |
    • mema

      Primewonk...Really!? Thats your argument?! We do have freewill. We choose to serve God or not. Yes there are consequences for choosing the latter but still it is a choice. And although it may not be a sin to be born gay, it is a sin to practice h©mos€xuality. Animals do not have freewill, hello, there animals. What animals do is out of instict. Animals are not and can never be viewed as h©mos€xual, there animals! My dog hΠmps everything, is he bi, hes a dog, it means absolutely nothing. When our female dog is in h€at he does what instict drives him to do. Wheres the logic in your post.

      May 29, 2012 at 10:42 am |
    • Primewonk

      @mema – again you are showing your ignorance. Humans are animals. So if you claim animals don't have freewill, then neither do humans.

      Plus there are 1500 species of mammals, fish, birds, insects, etc. that exhibit hômosèxuality.

      Your god claims omnipotence and omniscience. He knows who is going to heaven and hell. He knew this before he created the universe. There is no way you can show up in hell if god already knew you were going to heaven. There is no way you can surprize god by showing up in heaven if he already knew your ticket was punched for hell.

      May 29, 2012 at 10:57 am |
    • Mass Debater

      "hello, there animals." lol

      May 29, 2012 at 10:58 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Primewonk, you listen to carnal folks telling you about staying carnal. Priceless. All who practice carnal beliefs are blotted out .. no eternity. Enjoy this life, for that's all you want and Jesus will oblige you.

      May 29, 2012 at 10:58 am |
    • Primewonk

      I listen to peer-reviewed science, and I listen to rational thought.

      A pity you and the other ignorant fundiots won't join us in the 21st century.

      May 29, 2012 at 11:32 am |
    • mema

      Primewonk...If my animals are in the same catagory as myself then they need to start paying their share of taxes darn it. And should I choose to marry my dog I should get a tax break for being married. Hello...your an idiot the likes I have never seen. Animals do nothing out of freewill. We do every single day. Some scientist called humans animals, that makes us animals. Yeah sure. Let me go lick my own rear end while Im at it. Ridiculous! Its all about classification in science. God created us as humans. If you consider yourself an animal you wont find me dissagreeing with you. You have the intelligence of my pet fish.

      May 29, 2012 at 11:40 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Licking your rear end is probably the most intelligent thing you ever do, mema.

      May 29, 2012 at 11:42 am |
    • Primewonk

      @ mema – Are humans plant based? Are we fungi? Are we bacteria? Are we viruses? No. We are animals. The fact that you choose to ignore science simply shows you choose to be stupid.

      You wrote, " And should I choose to marry my dog..." Can your dog give consent and enter a legal contract?

      And why is always the ignorant fundiots, like mema, who spend so much time fixating on, and fantasizing aabout diddling your doggie?

      May 29, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Primewonk, you posted "I listen to peer-reviewed science, and I listen to rational thought."

      Answer: Science and scientist did not create ALL. Besides, didn't you learn that is not their job?

      May 29, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
    • Mass Debater

      "Answer: Science and scientist did not create ALL." No, but they study all observable phenomenon and attempt at getting a clearer picture as to how we and the universe around us work. Religion on the other hand, claims to know all that is to be known about things, how we were created and why along with who created us and what that being wants from us on a daily basis which apparently is telepathic obeisance and large amounts of our manmade currency.

      May 29, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
  18. pablo

    Sounds like there is finally a church around worth attending. Gays can't be saved. Even the Pope said that. They will all burn. A befitting end to the freaks of society

    May 29, 2012 at 9:28 am |
    • -_+


      May 29, 2012 at 9:34 am |
    • bob dobalina

      Hey Pablo....ever suck a dick you didn't like?

      May 29, 2012 at 9:44 am |
    • WASP

      doesn't the bible mean anything to you thumpers? what part of " judge not for thou shall be judged" do you folks not get? you commit a sin everytime you think yourself better than another human. crazy thing you commit a few of the deadly sins, so i'm certain they will save you hypocrites a seat beside them in hell.

      May 29, 2012 at 9:44 am |
    • Primewonk

      Being born gay is no more immoral or wrong than being born left-handed, or black.

      Oh...Wait....It wan't that long ago that you ignorant fundiots claimed that being left-handed was a sign of the devil, and being black was the mark of Cain.

      This is just one more thing your god totally screwed up.

      May 29, 2012 at 9:47 am |
    • -_+

      Bigot bob is a c0ck sucker, LoL

      May 29, 2012 at 9:47 am |
    • -_+

      Wasps galore! Get out the bugger spray Emme, they are coming out in droves!

      May 29, 2012 at 9:49 am |
    • -_+

      Just how many "prime" colours do you have in your louie pastels?

      May 29, 2012 at 9:51 am |
    • Primewonk

      Apparently "-_+" is just another ignorant sockpuppet troll.

      The amazing thing is that there are soo many of these religious trolls on these boards.

      May 29, 2012 at 9:56 am |
    • +_-

      I "troll" the world looking for sukkers of my c0ck, then gis em a wooden nikel! LoL

      May 29, 2012 at 9:59 am |
    • wisdomVS

      God is love, his love is unconditional, his love is extened to all. Open your spirit to the truth... gays can be saved just as adulterers can. God sees no differecne between them... dumb Pope!

      May 29, 2012 at 9:59 am |
    • sam stone

      Yeah, if anyone should know abouts gays, it is the head of the Vatican version of NAMBLA.

      May 29, 2012 at 10:04 am |
    • +_-

      God is luv? Up and down and in and out is all God kan do! He kant evin suk a dik the rite ways! LoL

      May 29, 2012 at 10:07 am |
    • Alex

      Wow even the pope said that? Even a 90 year old virgin former member of the Hitler youth? wow must be true then!!!!!

      May 29, 2012 at 10:10 am |
    • ......................................................

      POp sikl is a dood ona stik Keep him saif in the freezr for gods skae!

      May 29, 2012 at 10:25 am |
    • HeavenSent

      True Believers Judge (aka discern not according to their own standard Matthew 7:1-2).

      "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment." John 7:24 (Ephesians 5:11, 1 Corinthians 5:12).

      "But he who is spiritual judges ALL things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one." 1 Corinthians 2:15 (1 Corinthians 6:2-3; 10:15; 14:29, Romans 16:17).

      Yes, and why, even of yourselves, do you not judge what is right? (Luke 12:57).

      What is right?

      The statutes of the Lord are right (Psalm 19:8).


      May 29, 2012 at 11:03 am |
    • Mass Debater

      "he who is spiritual judges ALL things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one"

      Sounds a lot like something a monarch might come up with, the "I get to judge everyone else but no one gets to judge me!! Now off with their heads!!" mentality. You were sent by no one other than your own self serving need to feel superior and belittle those around you which i'm sure makes you feel like you're in Heaven.

      May 29, 2012 at 1:53 pm |
  19. TheNaturalWay

    There was an openly gay dude at my work place, whom I was supporting on a project. I withheld key assistance, in a smart manner so it couldnt be proven. Of course I had other projects etc etc and was superbusy WINK WINK. The project failed and this dude got the blame.

    Nice guy, though. I felt bad doing it. But ultimately it came from being uncomfortable working with him. So had to make sure he would not seek my assistance again in any future projects. All you openly gay people, beware.. you will face situations like this.

    May 29, 2012 at 9:18 am |
    • +_-

      Gay is so lame! No wonder. They suk!

      May 29, 2012 at 9:32 am |
    • WASP

      @ natural: if what you said here is true, you are the lowest of the low. you were so concerned about his s-e-xual orientation that you commited a sin just to watch him fail. great example of a disgusting human. i imagine you can't even guess your sin? read through all seven then you may see the one you commited.

      May 29, 2012 at 9:40 am |
    • Primewonk

      How very christian of you.

      Ignorant putz.

      May 29, 2012 at 9:42 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You never had a job that didn't require a paper hat and a uniform with a big "M" on it, Naturally Dim.

      May 29, 2012 at 9:45 am |
    • -_+

      Quischans suk too, lol

      May 29, 2012 at 9:53 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Aww, what a shame. Naturally Braindead had to report for his summer school class!

      May 29, 2012 at 10:18 am |
    • TheNaturalWay


      This was an IT project involving web services, which we were implementing in Java using web logic.

      Just giving you this info so you can go away to YOUR summer school.

      May 29, 2012 at 10:29 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Sure you are. Please.

      You're a troll who doesn't have a job other than the one in which you get to ask, 'Would you like fries with that?"

      May 29, 2012 at 10:30 am |
    • SophieCat

      Very smart of you, and I'm sure you think you'll be this young and smart forever, but as the years progress and your natural ability to sabotage others wanes in the face of your own declining mental prowess, I wonder if you've considered what it will be like to sit for hours in a puddle of your own urine, scalding you and producing not just a rash and irritation, but skin breakdown that is common in old men, infections that can't be stopped by even the strongest of antibiotics, antibiotics which produce the most serious diarrhea but do nothing to stop the raging bedsores and the oozing pus and blood as you scream in pain but since you've developed an allergy to codeine and pseudo-codeine products, your doctor has prescribed a Demerol shot for you, every eight hours, but sometimes the nurses forget. In fact, they usually forget, or they tell you to shut up, because you've tried to remind them but they get very (very!) angry, and are prone to slapping you in the face or hitting you with your own houseshoes, or shoving you into your room and shutting the door, and if you try to get out they tie you to the bedrails with your bathrobe self-belt, it's just a soft bit of cloth so it leaves no visible marks and when your children come to visit, you cry and you beg them to please, PLEASE take you out of here, they hit and they tie you to the bed, but your children know that you've got dementia now, and you've been prone to making up stories and lying all your life anyway.

      So no one believes you.

      So there you sit, unshaven and smelly, your legs are cold from streaks of urine running down the back of them, your bottom is scalded and the sore place that never heals. You've learned not to complain about it too much, though, because if you do, they hit you and there's nothing to eat all day but the cold farina and applesauce they brought to you at breakfast. You've tried talking to someone about this, but being known as a LIAR for all of your life isn't getting you anywhere.

      It's OK. It will all be over soon.

      May 29, 2012 at 10:33 am |
  20. .

    I hate the manly gay crowds but I love the bi-lesbian girlies!

    May 29, 2012 at 9:07 am |
    • .. :-)

      I'll see your twins and raise you a foursome! 3 ladies and me!

      May 29, 2012 at 9:11 am |
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