American nuns come out swinging against Vatican in face of ‘radical feminist’ accusations
Protesters in New York show support for American nuns in the face of Vatican criticism.
June 1st, 2012
09:42 AM ET

American nuns come out swinging against Vatican in face of ‘radical feminist’ accusations

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) – The leadership representing most of America’s nuns came out swinging Friday against the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church, in the face of charges from the Vatican that the nuns are espousing “radical feminism” and straying from church teaching.

The Vatican’s criticism of the American nuns has “caused scandal and pain throughout the church community, and created greater polarization,” the Leadership Conference of Women Religious - which represents about 80% of American nuns - said in a statement Friday.

The board of the group had convened in Washington this week for three days of special meetings, provoked by an April assessment from the Vatican that said America’s nuns had largely gone rogue and warned that they could be a negative global influence on the church.

The Vatican report said that at an annual gathering of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious, guest speakers who preached "radical feminism" went unchallenged. The report also said the nuns were too focused on social justice and not enough on opposing abortion, euthanasia and same-sex marriage.

The Leadership Conference of Women Religious said Friday that the assessment “was based on unsubstantiated accusations and (was) the result of a flawed process that lacked transparency.”

“Moreover, the sanctions imposed were disproportionate to the concerns raised and could compromise (the nuns’) ability to fulfill their mission,” the statement continued.

The Leadership Conference’s 22-member board said that its leaders would travel to Rome this month to meet with the head of the Vatican’s Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, the office that launched an investigation of the American nuns several years ago.

Hours later, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops issued a statement from Archbishop Peter Sartain in which he vowed there was a wholehearted commitment "to dealing with the important issues raised by (the Vatican's) doctrinal assessment and the LCWR board in an atmosphere of openness, honesty, integrity and fidelity."

"I look forward to our next meeting in Rome in June as we continue to collaborate in promoting the important work of the LCWR for consecrated life in the United States," said Sartain, who heads the Archdiocese of Seattle. "The Holy See and the Bishops of the United States are deeply proud of the historic and continuing contribution of women religious - a pride that has been echoed by many in recent weeks."

Pope Benedict XVI, a theologian by training, was the head of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith for decades before he was elevated to papacy. In interviews conducted while he held that earlier post, he spoke often about growing the church by pruning - becoming smaller but more devout before expanding.

Church experts say that the nuns have a few options in responding to one of the most powerful offices in the church. They could accept the assessment, negotiate or resign en masse and form a new group outside the watchful eye of the Vatican.

–CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor Eric Marrapodi contributed to this report.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Catholic Church • Vatican

soundoff (1,467 Responses)
  1. tony rodolakis

    The Jesus did not "swing" against his father. Amen.

    June 1, 2012 at 11:35 am |
    • Huebert

      The pope isn't god

      June 1, 2012 at 11:36 am |
    • Twisty Turny

      Maybe not, but he did swing with twelve handsome your men who constantly told him they loved him.

      June 1, 2012 at 11:54 am |
    • Friskitt

      Truth is, when Joseph found out Mary was pregnant
      and he wasnt the father, he beat the crap out of the ho.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
  2. Matthew Kilburn

    "outdated morality"

    And what has the new, modern morality brought us? Rampant promiscuity, rampant abortion, rampant divorce, a crashing birth rate, and all sorts of other ills that will do long-term damage to the future of society.

    June 1, 2012 at 11:34 am |
    • Huebert

      Please explain how "rampant abortion" is going to harm future generations

      June 1, 2012 at 11:35 am |
    • R.P.M.

      A crashing birth rate? Are you really that stupid? America's population is expected to doouble in 40 years, and that is a big problem. The world is already overpopulated, and when the surplusses of resources wear out, you are going to really know it.

      If you really knew what the situation was, you would be strongly in favor of birth control. Really bad things come from too many people competing for too few resources.

      Go forth and procreate is very very bad advice now.

      June 1, 2012 at 11:52 am |
    • harriet

      oh yeah, and we never had any of those things in the past. Back in the Good Old Days everyone was just the perfect little moral angel. That is just silly talk

      June 1, 2012 at 11:54 am |
    • Friskitt

      The only thing you got right was the divorce part.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
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  3. PJ

    And the misogyny in the Catholic church continues. 2000+ years and still going strong. . .

    June 1, 2012 at 11:34 am |
  4. harriet

    You go get 'em ladies – teach those crusty old men a thing or two!

    June 1, 2012 at 11:33 am |
    • bandgeek1

      Power to the nuns!

      June 1, 2012 at 11:41 am |
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      July 29, 2012 at 11:07 pm |
  5. tony rodolakis

    Nuns, who are coming-out-swinging against the Vatican, may I remind you that the Jesus said to honor your father and mother that it may be well with you that you may live long on the good land that the Lord your God is giving to you? Why am I asking you to remember this? I am asking you to remember this, because the people whom you are coming-out-swinging against, are your father and mother, spiritually, which, in a way, is even more important than your natural father and mother. Stop it now. Amen.

    June 1, 2012 at 11:32 am |
    • derp

      If my father was systematically aiding in the se xual abuse of children I'd be coming out swinging at him too.

      I guess you think what the RCC has done is ok?

      June 1, 2012 at 11:34 am |
    • Roscoe Chait

      Hey Tony... time for you to live in the real world instead of spouting religious nonsense. Maybe you need to talk to your shrink about why you hate women.

      June 1, 2012 at 11:35 am |
    • Gregory

      I see, and you never disagreed with your mother and father?

      June 1, 2012 at 11:37 am |
    • R.P.M.

      And may I remind you, Tony, the Jesus repeatedly instructed his followers to sell their possessions and give the proceedes to the poor? Have you done that yet? No? Why are you disobeying Jesus' orders? Why, considering your failure to obey Jesus, do you feel empowered to tell other people what to do?

      When you yourself live up to Jesus' code, then you can start telling others what to do. At the moment, you are just a hypocrite.

      How do you feel justified in telling people that they cannot dissent against unjust behavior? That is very weird, and very unAmerican.

      June 1, 2012 at 11:38 am |
    • Peter

      Their primary mission is not to follow blindly the political whims of men. Their mission is to care for the poor, sick, elderly and disenfranchised. They are following Christ"s teachings as they should.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:04 pm |
    • Friskitt

      I wish a nun would beat the crap out of Tony.

      June 1, 2012 at 1:02 pm |
  6. Stephanie

    Sisters, you ladies need to join the Sophian Gnostic Church-Woman is just as respected and on an equal level with men, Just as Jesus taught by his life. Women were part of the apostolic ministry and Mary Magdalene is recognized as the disciple to the disciples and as an important part of the spreading of the gospel.

    June 1, 2012 at 11:32 am |
    • KellyBean

      Preach! Love it!.. I follow the Magdalene as well.

      June 1, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • Friskitt

      Mary Magdalene was a deciple.
      Great woman.

      June 1, 2012 at 1:04 pm |
  7. Matthew Kilburn

    "Essentially are we 'wasting time' focusing on social justice and feminism instead of opposing things and oppressing women?"

    Catholicism is about far more than being just a charity for the poor. The church is committed to the idea of protection of life, from conception until natural death. And to the idea that a family is composed of a permanent union between a man and a woman, preferably with children. If you think these ideas are outdated or irrelevant, I suggest you take a look at the damage that has been wrought on society by rampant divorce, abortion, our of wedlock pregnancy, falling birth rates, and a general view that life is NOT sacred, family is NOT important, and that children are more a burden to be avoided than anything.

    If the Vatican is correct in its accusations, then these "nuns" are guilty of the same thing most liberal Catholics are guilty of: picking small sections out of church teachings to support a leftist political and social agenda, while doing nothing to promote or embrace the traditional morality that provides the foundation for a strong society and community.

    June 1, 2012 at 11:32 am |
    • derp

      "composed of a permanent union between a man and a woman, preferably with children."

      You pretty much just nailed it.

      June 1, 2012 at 11:36 am |
    • ME II

      "The church is committed to the idea of protection of life, from conception until natural death."

      I never quite understood this. How can the RCC support vacinations, CPR, medications, or medicine in general?

      June 1, 2012 at 11:40 am |
    • Michael Ryan

      I followed all you said until you got to divorce and all the other ills of society! The Church doesn't support divorced Catholics at all! They are denied the Eucharist when they need it most – after an abusive, failed marriage. We are not "choosing" aspects of our religion, WE ARE LIVING OUR RELIGION! Really, what would Jesus do?

      June 1, 2012 at 11:45 am |
    • Friskitt

      Falling birth rates ?

      June 1, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
  8. communicator1453

    They should leave the Vatican to whither in its own disgrace.

    June 1, 2012 at 11:29 am |
  9. LOL Religion

    They ARE straying from the church's teachings:

    1 Timothy 2:11 "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner."

    All the Abrahamic religions are ridiculously misogynistic. These nuns are lucky the Pope doesn't burn them as witches, because that's exactly what they would have done in the past.

    June 1, 2012 at 11:29 am |
    • Friskitt

      Written by a man, and stuck into the bible 300 years after Christ died.
      How convieniant.

      June 1, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
  10. Colin

    I was brought up a Catholic, but after repeatedly seeing pretty fundamental holes in the belief and never being given a satisfactory answer, I ended up an atheist. Here are some of my issues that caused me to stop believing

    1. At its most fundamental level, Christianity requires a belief that an all-knowing, all-powerful, immortal being created the entire Universe and its billions of galaxies 13,720,000,000 years ago (the age of the Universe) sat back and waited 10,000,000,000 years for the Earth to form, then waited another 3,720,000,000 years for human beings to gradually evolve, then, at some point gave them eternal life and sent its son to Earth to talk about sheep and goats in the Middle East.

    While here, this divine visitor exhibits no knowledge of ANYTHING outside of the Iron Age Middle East, including the other continents, 99% of the human race, and the aforementioned galaxies.

    Either that, or it all started 6,000 years ago with one man, one woman and a talking snake. Either way “oh come on” just doesn’t quite capture it.

    2. This ‘all loving’ god spends his time running the Universe and spying on the approximately 7 billion human beings on planet Earth 24 hours a day, seven days a week. He even reads their minds (or “hears their prayers”, if you see any difference) using some kind of magic telepathic powers. He also keeps his telepathic eye on them when they are not praying, so as to know if they think bad thoughts (such as coveting their neighbor) so he knows whether to reward or punish them after they die.

    3. Having withheld any evidence of his existence, this god will then punish those who doubt him with an eternity burning in hell. I don’t have to kill, I don’t have to steal, I don’t even have to litter. All I have to do is harbor an honest, reasonable and rational disbelieve in the Christian god and he will inflict a grotesque penalty on me a billion times worse than the death penalty – and he loves me.

    4. The above beliefs are based on nothing more than a collection of Bronze and Iron Age Middle Eastern mythology, much of it discredited, that was cobbled together into a book called the “Bible” by people we know virtually nothing about, before the Dark Ages.

    5. The stories of Christianity are not even original. They are borrowed directly from earlier mythology from the Middle East. Genesis and Exodus, for example, are clearly based on earlier Babylonian myths such as The Epic of Gilgamesh, and the Jesus story itself is straight from the stories about Apollonius of Tyana, Ho.rus and Dionysus (including virgin birth, the three wise men, the star in the East, birth at the Winter solstice, a baptism by another prophet, turning water into wine, crucifixion and rising from the dead).

    6. The Bible is also literally infested with contradictions, outdated morality, and open support for the most barbarous acts of cruelty – including, genocide, murder, slavery, r.ape and the complete subjugation of women. All of this is due to when and where it was written, the morality of the times and the motives of its authors and compilers. While this may be exculpatory from a literary point of view, it also screams out the fact that it is a pure product of man, bereft of any divine inspiration.

    7. A rejection of the supernatural elements of Christianity does not require a rejection of its morality. Most atheists and secular humanists share a large amount of the morality taught today by mainstream Christianity. To the extent we reject Christian morality, it is where it is outdated or mean spirited – such as in the way it seeks to curtail freedoms or oppose the rights of $exual minorities. In most other respects, our basic moral outlook is indistinguishable from that of the liberal Christian – we just don’t need the mother of all carrots and sticks hanging over our head in order to act in a manner that we consider moral.

    Falsely linking morality to a belief in the supernatural is a time-tested “three card trick” religion uses to stop its adherents from asking the hard questions. So is telling them it is “wrong to doubt.” This is probably why there is not one passage in the Bible in support of intelligence and healthy skepticism, but literally hundreds in support of blind acceptance and blatant gullibility.

    8. We have no idea of who wrote the four Gospels, how credible or trustworthy they were, what ulterior motives they had (other than to promote their religion) or what they based their views on. We know that the traditional story of it being Matthew, Mark, Luke and John is almost certainly wrong. For example, the Gospel of Matthew includes a scene in which Jesus meets Matthew, recounted entirely in the third person!! Nevertheless, we are called upon to accept the most extraordinary claims by these unknown people, who wrote between 35 to 65 years after Christ died and do not even claim to have been witnesses. It is like taking the word of an unknown Branch Davidian about what happened to David Koresh at Waco – who wrote 35 years after the fact and wasn’t there.

    9. When backed into a corner, Christianity admits it requires a “leap of faith” to believe it. However, once one accepts that pure faith is a legitimate reason to believe in something (which it most certainly is not, any more than “faith” that pixies exist is) one has to accept all other gods based on exactly the same reasoning. One cannot be a Christian based on the “leap of faith” – and then turn around and say those who believe in, for example, the Hindu gods, based on the same leap, got it wrong. In a dark room without features, any guess by a blind man at the direction of the door is as valid as the other 359 degrees.

    Geography and birthplace dictates what god(s) one believes in. Every culture that has ever existed has had its own gods and they all seem to favor that particular culture, its hopes, dreams, and prejudices. Do you think they all exist? If not, why only yours?

    Faith is not belief in a god. It is a mere hope for a god, a wish for a god, no more substantial than the hope for a good future and no more universal than the language you speak or the baseball team you support.

    June 1, 2012 at 11:29 am |
    • xMoonWitchx

      I'm proud of you, Colin and even more appreciative that you posted all of these issues you have with the church and saved me a ton of time.

      June 1, 2012 at 11:33 am |
    • derp

      "Faith is not belief in a god. It is a mere hope for a god, a wish for a god, no more substantial than the hope for a good future and no more universal than the language you speak or the baseball team you support"

      That is the one point that the bibletards just don't seem to get.

      It's not faith, it's belief.

      Faith implies the possibility of non occurrence. One could say, I have faith that I will get that job, or that my son will graduate college, or the Cubs will win the world series. There is a possibility of those things happening, or not happening, and either of those outcomes is very real (well, except for the Cubs, they have no chance of winning the world series).

      There is no such thing as faith in god, because the occurrence or non occurrence does not exist.

      IIt is simply hope or belief.

      June 1, 2012 at 11:42 am |
    • Alanna

      This is wonderful. Cheers

      June 1, 2012 at 11:43 am |
    • Colin

      Agreed derp. This is where religion does its three card trick. It encourages faith becuase its got nothing else. You poke it and it falls apart, so all it can do is tell you "it's wrong to question, doubt and think for yourself".

      June 1, 2012 at 11:44 am |
    • nightsun2k7

      To Colin:

      Very, very well put. One of the things i ask christians that seems to stump them is this. If everything all started in the east (Adam, Eve etc.) how did the North American Indians get here? Did they come accross the Atlantic in their little birch canoes? Seems very unlikely to me.

      June 1, 2012 at 11:52 am |
    • Jill

      This is a response to you and to all others writing here.
      I will tell you what is practical... if you agree to do what I have done, you will see the benefits.
      I too was raised Catholic and lost my beliefs midway... I was living as an Atheist for about 15yrs. After this I took it upon myself to have a blind faith in everything written in the Bible. I have started following the Bible again with a child like innocence. Peace , Prosperity and Tranquility and success are the only thing I see in my life now. So I ask myself is it worth following the Bible and the teaching of the catholic church, sure it is, it all depends on what you want out of it. Also remember, the Bible is not written for literary interpretation.

      I also want you to bear in mind the life of Christ is a Historical fact and not philosophy, also The disciples of Christ are historical. Catholic Church is the mother Church and its interpretations of the Bible is the most authentic as it comes from the disciples of Christ. No other church has the right to interpret the bible. This is not arrogance, it is a simple fact.

      About the issue with the Nuns, I am not in the Vatican so I don't know exactly what is going on but all I can say is that Nuns should not be taking to the street. They have to follow their moral code and address issues internally. Their is a certain behavior expected of you, I don't care weather you are from America Asia or Africa.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
    • derp

      Colin, it is surely the greatest scam ever created.

      Threaten something that can't be delivered (hell), and offer something that cannot ever be realized (heaven).

      Then, take the strongest biological drive (reproduction) and demonize it.

      tell people they are bad for doing the one thing that is required for the continuance of the species (reproduction).

      Then tell them that you have the only way to make it all better (religion)

      When people question why some of the rules don't make any sense, tell them that the imaginary guy (god) that you made up to scare them is so smart that you cannot ever understand him, and if you question him you are going to that scary place that we actually cannot ever deliver on (hell).

      It's brilliant in its simplicity.

      Make a bunch of rules that you know everyone will break (bible). Tell them it's bad to break them (don't sin). Threaten them with the undeliverable (hell). Then tell them it's ok to break them as long as you do everything I say, and believe everything I tell you, because we are all rule breakers (original sin). Promise them the undeliverable reward if they say sorry for breaking the rules that you knew they would break (repent), and already told them it was ok to break (we are all sinners).

      It is astonishing to me that in the 21st century any modern thought capable human would fall for such an unbelievable boondoggle.

      Can't fix stupid.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:10 pm |
    • Colin

      Thank Jill, when you say "After this I took it upon myself to have a blind faith in everything written in the Bible. I have started following the Bible again with a child like innocence." I am curious as to how you dea with the following parts of the bible.

      Leviticus 25:44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

      Exodus 21:20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.

      Genesis 19:33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up. 34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” 35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.
      36 So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father.

      Deuteronomy 22:28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and r@pes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

      Genesis 19:8 Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.”

      1 Timothy 2:11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.

      1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not a God of disorder but of peace—as in all the congregations of the Lord’s people.
      34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.

      Matthew 19: (Jesus Speaking) 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for $ ex ual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

      1 Corinthians 7:10 To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.

      Numbers 31: (Moses Speaking) 15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the LORD in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the LORD’s people. 17 Now ki11 all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

      2 Kings 6:27 The king replied, “If the LORD does not help you, where can I get help for you? From the threshing floor? From the winepress?” 28 Then he asked her, “What’s the matter?” She answered, “This woman said to me, ‘Give up your son so we may eat him today, and tomorrow we’ll eat my son.’ 29 So we cooked my son and ate him. The next day I said to her, ‘Give up your son so we may eat him,’ but she had hidden him.”

      June 1, 2012 at 12:12 pm |
    • derp

      "I also want you to bear in mind the life of Christ is a Historical fact and not philosophy"

      Neither the Romans or the Jews have any historical record of Jesus during the time he lived; even though they both kept very detailed records of everyday life.

      The only recorded stories about Jesus started approximately 30 years after his death, were translated several times, edited multiple times, and today bare no resemblance of what the original disciples thought Jesus might have said 30 years before they actually started writing it down.

      There is no such "Historical Fact" associated with the "life" of Jesus.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
    • Kirk Jordan

      You do have a lot to say.
      With that I take no issue or comment.
      However, I notice that you offer nothing to give hope or hapiness now or for the future.
      Pr 10:19 “. . .In the abundance of words there does not fail to be transgression. . .”

      June 1, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
  11. communicator1453

    They should leave the Vatican to whither away in its own moral disgrace.

    June 1, 2012 at 11:29 am |
  12. john/oregon

    Is it still the 15th century or what? How about a little critical thinking? The church is dis-satisfied that nuns are concentrating on doing the teachings of Christ through social justice works and feels that they should be busier judging others...what a crock.

    June 1, 2012 at 11:29 am |
  13. KellyBean

    Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith is the Inquisition. They just gave it a new name.

    June 1, 2012 at 11:27 am |
  14. Angee

    Fortunately, Catholicism does not equal Christianity. If you read, search and dig you will eventually understand this. Catholicism is just one more inept, dying and shrinking branch of Christianity.

    June 1, 2012 at 11:27 am |
    • derp

      "Fortunately, Catholicism does not equal Christianity"

      Yeah, the other christians are so much more progressive. They only want the government to kill gay people.

      June 1, 2012 at 11:43 am |
  15. Jim

    The Catholic Church is going backwards on social issues. It's sad. They just don't get it, they claim to be the product of the New Testament, but they want to live by the Old. This will cost them members in a big way.

    June 1, 2012 at 11:27 am |
    • Ben

      clearly you have read neither

      June 1, 2012 at 11:35 am |
  16. MTP

    These nuns would be better off severing any ties with the Catholic Church and worshiping god in a manner they see fit. More power to them.

    June 1, 2012 at 11:27 am |
    • Franklin

      Yes, something more natural, less patriarchal, something with... brooms and maybe a guy with horns – be true to thyselves, sisters!

      June 1, 2012 at 11:37 am |
  17. GBfromOhio

    Most Catholics I know are very intelligent, caring, thoughtful people. The church hierarchy itself, especially the Vatican, is a corrupt, hideously hypocritical organization that does far more harm than good on this planet.

    June 1, 2012 at 11:26 am |
  18. Jack

    Somebody ask Luther where he left the hammer and nails.

    June 1, 2012 at 11:25 am |
    • Jan-Cincy

      Very good! But Catholics upset with their religions have only to step over to the Episcopal church, which is very similar and also has religious orders. Lutherans may have been the first "protesters" who severed ties with the Catholic Church, but Episcopalians are know as "Catholic-lite." It is their married priests who can convert to Catholicism and be accepted as priests, even with wives and children in tow.

      June 1, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • Dino Droppings

      We have all been lied to.
      It was god that was cast out of heaven by Lucifer.
      God is the jelous and vengeful one who wants mankind
      to worship him.
      Its in your book, but you choose not to see it.

      June 1, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
  19. Joe

    The new radical feminism: working outside the home to support your family, using birth control, and supporting equal opportunity. It's a sad, sad day when the Catholic Church has the same stance as the Taliban.

    June 1, 2012 at 11:25 am |
  20. pkrbkr

    You go, sisters! As a cradle Catholic I abhor the church's telling me what to think, ....after all, the Creator gave us each a brain and a conscience.....the church doesn't want us using these gifts....only pray, pay and OBEY! I will live and die a Catholic, but my faith is based on a relationship with Jesus, NOT on what the church heirarchy tells me to do or to think!

    June 1, 2012 at 11:25 am |
    • fonseka3


      June 1, 2012 at 11:27 am |
    • Veronica Vernarsky

      I am with you pkrbkr I to am a cradle Catholic and can tell you the nuns are not the problem just look at what some of the wonderful Cardinels have done.

      June 1, 2012 at 11:39 am |
    • Bill Friedline

      If everyone who disagreed with the Pope left the Catholic church today, it would be deader than the so-called savior they say they follow. Jesus himself decried the tying of money and religion, but that hasn't stopped the Catholic church from amassing vast Earthly fortunes.

      June 1, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • Sister Mary Francis

      Jesus threw the money lenders out of the temple.
      Now they run the vatican.

      June 1, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
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The CNN Belief Blog covers the faith angles of the day's biggest stories, from breaking news to politics to entertainment, fostering a global conversation about the role of religion and belief in readers' lives. It's edited by CNN's Daniel Burke with contributions from Eric Marrapodi and CNN's worldwide news gathering team.