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June 4th, 2012
05:43 PM ET

We don't teach hate, says church where anti-homosexual song filmed

By Ismael Estrada, CNN

Greensburg, Indiana (CNN) - About 20 protesters gathered on Sunday outside the Apostolic Truth Tabernacle here to voice opposition to a viral online video that was taped in the church and shows a young child singing song with lyrics that offer a harsh message for homosexuals.

The video, which surfaced on YouTube last week, shows a child in front of the congregation, singing "I know that God is right, and somebody's wrong... ain't no homo going to make it to heaven."

The congregation erupts in applause at those lines, which the unidentified boy repeats as the pastor looks on.

At another point in the video a voice is heard shouting,"That’s my boy."

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In the first Sunday service since the video surfaced, congregants arrived to the church as protesters jeered them over the video.

A church leader, who would not give his name, told CNN that journalists were not allowed inside the church and declined to offer anyone from church leadership to comment on the video.

The leader said that he needed to be cautious about letting outsiders into the church because it had received threats over the video and asked CNN to leave the premises.

Church videos with harsh words for gays go viral online

The local sheriff's office said the church had not reported any verifiable threats.

No one answered the door at the home of Jeff Sangl, the church's pastor.

The video of the singing boy was the latest in a string of viral anti-gay videos that have surfaced from independent churches.  Those videos have been resoundingly condemned by religious leaders, even by conservatives who believe homosexual sex is a sin.

The Apostolic Truth Tabernacle posted a statement on its website that says in part: "The Pastor and members of Apostolic Truth Tabernacle do not condone, teach, or practice hate of any person for any reason.”

The pastor's son, Josh Sangl, told CNN his father was away on vacation and that there was much more to the video than we were being told, though he wouldn’t elaborate.

The majority of the church members wouldn’t comment about the controversy or respond to questions about the parents of the young boy.

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"I think it's blown out of proportion, you know," said Robert Kirby, who is not a church member but was attending Sunday's church service in support of his daughter, who teaches Sunday School there. "They love everybody.

"They don't love sin though," he said. "It's all in the Bible."

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Filed under: Belief • Church • Homosexuality

soundoff (3,151 Responses)
  1. Reality

    Only for the eyes of the Apostolic Truth Tabernacle:

    o "Abrahamics" believe that their god created all of us and of course that includes the g-ay members of the human race. Also, those who have studied ho-mo-se-xuality have determined that there is no choice involved therefore ga-ys are ga-y because god made them that way.

    To wit:

    1. The Royal College of Psy-chiatrists stated in 2007:

    “ Despite almost a century of psy-choanalytic and psy-chological speculation, there is no substantive evidence to support the suggestion that the nature of parenting or early childhood experiences play any role in the formation of a person’s fundamental heteros-exual or hom-ose-xual orientation. It would appear that s-exual orientation is biological in nature, determined by a complex interplay of ge-netic factors and the early ut-erine environment. Se-xual orientation is therefore not a choice.[60] "

    2. "Garcia-Falgueras and Swaab state in the abstract of their 2010 study, "The fe-tal brain develops during the intraut-erine period in the male direction through a direct action of tes-tosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hor-mone surge. In this way, our gender identi-ty (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and s-exual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb. There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender ident–ity or s-exual orientation."[8

    3. See also the Philadelphia Inquirer review “Gay Gene, Deconstructed”, 12/12/2011. Said review addresses the following “How do genes associated with ho-mose-xuality avoid being weeded out by Darwinian evolution?”

    June 4, 2012 at 11:43 pm |
  2. PorkNBeans

    I'm from this part of the country. But I removed myself many, many years ago.
    My folks still reside in rural Indiana, not far from this locale.
    I can tell you first hand that these folks are blinded by their closed minded faith and their racial prejudice.
    I assure you that the folks in that congregation do hate. They hate anyone that isn't just like them.
    I lived it. I saw it and heard it.

    June 4, 2012 at 11:42 pm |
  3. cynthia hicks

    RIIIIIIIIGHT,,,, and you don't lie too?! If you'll buy that... I got some ocean front property in Arizona...

    June 4, 2012 at 11:42 pm |
  4. sula

    Good one Evange. I think you are not gay, straight or even a woman..............just deranged. Poor you

    June 4, 2012 at 11:42 pm |
  5. Paramad

    It's good to be in a club. Everyone is like you, any ideas you express along club guidelines is accepted and applauded. If everyone in the club thinks like you it must be right any one that does not think like a club member is wrong and suspect. You never want to hear what a non-club member has to say because it makes you uncomfortable. Jokes and offerings of hate and violence are thought of as bad taste but the snickering and laughter reinforces that wonderful feeling of belonging to something. It's good to be in a club.

    June 4, 2012 at 11:41 pm |
  6. Evangelical

    Some troll has stolen my name and pretended I was a woman and not a gay man. You gay people will stoop to anything to support your disgusting ways. When I was in prison, we had a way to deal with you people. I will let you think how.

    June 4, 2012 at 11:41 pm |
    • Evangelical

      This false evangelical is a wolf in Sheep's clothing!!!

      June 4, 2012 at 11:47 pm |
  7. Hadenuffyet

    you have your right , they have theirs , and never the twain shall meet...

    June 4, 2012 at 11:41 pm |
  8. sula

    Evangelical. I bet you didn't like women as a gay man and hate them even more as a so called "straight man". I have a feeling you have a lot of anger pent up inside and are having a very hard time directing it as the right source. Get so help. Restorative Therapy is proven not to work, and you are a perfect example of that

    June 4, 2012 at 11:39 pm |
    • Evangelical

      shshshsouludludualdufhihhgigischolawggggggg

      June 4, 2012 at 11:42 pm |
    • Evangelical

      !!!

      June 4, 2012 at 11:42 pm |
  9. timz

    No, the church doesn't teach hate . . . Satan does. The church just learns it from him.

    June 4, 2012 at 11:37 pm |
    • Cletus

      Really? Did he get at you too? What was he wearing when you saw him?

      June 4, 2012 at 11:39 pm |
    • Cody Herbert

      I agree and religion shouldn't be judged by people viewing things of those who do judge. Not all Christians hate or shove religion down throats. But those who do are essentially those who are responsible for the decline in their own church attendance or the population that still does believe. It is a touchy subject and everyone has freedom. But man...those hypocritical christians just push people away.

      June 4, 2012 at 11:45 pm |
  10. Johnny Orlando

    1st amendment works for everyone

    June 4, 2012 at 11:35 pm |
    • GayAtheist

      Jesus Christ = Hate.

      June 4, 2012 at 11:36 pm |
    • D

      True, but it doesn't mean people can't react (peacefully) to it strongly.

      June 4, 2012 at 11:36 pm |
    • Cletus

      Nope, yer wrong there. It don't work worth a squat.

      June 4, 2012 at 11:38 pm |
  11. Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

    Over the past year, there's been a stream of major national polls indicating that a majority of people support same-s3x marriage. According to a Washington Post-ABC News poll released Wednesday, 53 percent of those questioned say gay marriage should be legal, a new high for the poll, while 39 percent, a new low, say it should be illegal.

    Read it and weep, Eva, baby.

    June 4, 2012 at 11:34 pm |
    • Evangelical

      Polls are the devil's gossip

      June 4, 2012 at 11:36 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Go away, troll. I want to see the real Eva.

      June 4, 2012 at 11:40 pm |
  12. sula

    Also just because something has "always" been a way of life doesn't mean that it can't change. Where in the hell did you knucleheads get that idea? I mean where is the logic behind "something has always been?"

    Then when you ask someone who believes that ism, then they quote the bible which is something that is personal and it certainly does not make it true. The bible is just paper work prepared by some historians–human beings giving an account of history, nothing more or greater then that. It is bull***t that someone's religious beliefs can be forced down another's throat!!

    June 4, 2012 at 11:32 pm |
  13. Vp

    Someday you will soundoff to God, one last time.

    June 4, 2012 at 11:32 pm |
  14. Cletus

    Naw, them name stealers ain't as bad as cnn at all. Its cnn that lets em do it on purpose.

    June 4, 2012 at 11:31 pm |
  15. Lokust

    It sure seems to me like they condone it since they didn't stop the kid in the first place.

    June 4, 2012 at 11:31 pm |
  16. Vp

    Communist news network

    June 4, 2012 at 11:30 pm |
    • Drew

      Pro-gay rights=Communist?

      June 4, 2012 at 11:31 pm |
    • sula

      So Vp if it is such a communist site why are you on it? Why don't you go to an Evangelical site and spew your ideas/hate there?

      June 4, 2012 at 11:34 pm |
  17. kdcarson

    So, we aren’t Politically Correct enough to respect Anti-gay sentiment yet?

    June 4, 2012 at 11:29 pm |
    • Drew

      We aren't required to respect people for holding mindless opinions

      June 4, 2012 at 11:30 pm |
    • D

      Ah someday we'll "respect" it as much as we respect anti-black sentiment these days.

      June 4, 2012 at 11:31 pm |
  18. Dylan

    Doesn't preach hate huh? Yeah....about that.

    June 4, 2012 at 11:28 pm |
  19. nancy

    This selective Bible verse obeying is so idiotic. If they're taking that literally, then they should be looking to put adulterers to death as well, just to mention one other idea from Leviticus. They hate gays because they hate gays. Trying to hide behind God to spout their hate is cowardly and blasphemous.

    June 4, 2012 at 11:28 pm |
    • Hugo

      Leviticus is law for Jews, or maybe just ancient Jews. It is not law for Gentiles.

      This doesn't mean that challenges aren't possible. It means that using Leviticus like that is flawed. (You shouldn't do it.)

      June 4, 2012 at 11:35 pm |
    • Nicole

      Christians don't hate the sinner but just the sin! God condemns it! He also condemns lying, fornicating, adultery, stealing. no sin is bigger than the other. Whether a person believes in him or not, we will all stand before him in judgement one day. The devil wants to deceive. The only way to make it right with him is to ask forgiveness for your sins and believe that his son Jesus died on the cross for your sins! He has changed my life and really gave me true peace. I encourage anyone to accept him into your heart. I love you all and so does Jesus! Dont wait before its too late, you could take your last breath today. Remember their is heaven and hell, you don't have to believe it, but just know that that won't change the fact that it truly exist. God bless you and I hope the lord touches your heart and helps you believe in him.

      June 4, 2012 at 11:58 pm |
  20. Evangelical

    People don't want the truth to be told about how depraved ho-mos-exuality is. So they go to any lengths to try to silence people with differing points of view. Well, you can steal screen names on this CNN blog, but in the REAL world such tactics do not work. One man, one vote.

    June 4, 2012 at 11:27 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      What will you do when the issue becomes one of civil rights and is brought before the SCOTUS, Eva? Chain yourself to one of the pillars on the front porch?

      June 4, 2012 at 11:30 pm |
    • No Nonsense

      Will you make up your fvcking mind. Are you gay or not?

      June 4, 2012 at 11:30 pm |
    • Freline

      Only in your sick twisted mind is it depraved. You must be a closeted gay.

      June 4, 2012 at 11:30 pm |
    • Evangelical

      Feline, I was gay but I'm past it. It was a very dark time for me

      June 4, 2012 at 11:31 pm |
    • Evangelical

      No nonsense- nooooo, not any more. Some troll has stolen my name. I am no longer a gay man. I have been straight for over a year and I HATE GAYS. He says things to discredit me, but it won't work.

      June 4, 2012 at 11:32 pm |
    • Rick James

      Evangelical is become more unhinged with every post...

      June 4, 2012 at 11:32 pm |
    • Freline

      Well, I feel sorry for you. I am gay but I am happy because I am being true to myself. Too bad you couldn't be true to yourself. You sound even darker than before.

      June 4, 2012 at 11:33 pm |
    • Evangelical

      aaasssadadaddadghghghtygtyggydgahgagufdghs

      June 4, 2012 at 11:33 pm |
    • nobikiniatoll

      Come out, come out (of the closet), whoever you are!

      June 4, 2012 at 11:34 pm |
    • sula

      BTW Mr. Evangelical...there are women out there and we make up 51% of the vote. But my guess is you also have a very hard time with that was well.

      June 4, 2012 at 11:36 pm |
    • Evangelical

      Not at all. In fact, before I became a gay man, I WAS a woman

      June 4, 2012 at 11:37 pm |
    • sam stone

      you seem quite fixated on it, evangelical......closet a bit confining?

      June 5, 2012 at 12:51 am |
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