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June 4th, 2012
05:43 PM ET
We don't teach hate, says church where anti-homosexual song filmedBy Ismael Estrada, CNN Greensburg, Indiana (CNN) - About 20 protesters gathered on Sunday outside the Apostolic Truth Tabernacle here to voice opposition to a viral online video that was taped in the church and shows a young child singing song with lyrics that offer a harsh message for homosexuals. The video, which surfaced on YouTube last week, shows a child in front of the congregation, singing "I know that God is right, and somebody's wrong... ain't no homo going to make it to heaven." The congregation erupts in applause at those lines, which the unidentified boy repeats as the pastor looks on. At another point in the video a voice is heard shouting,"That’s my boy." CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories In the first Sunday service since the video surfaced, congregants arrived to the church as protesters jeered them over the video. A church leader, who would not give his name, told CNN that journalists were not allowed inside the church and declined to offer anyone from church leadership to comment on the video. The leader said that he needed to be cautious about letting outsiders into the church because it had received threats over the video and asked CNN to leave the premises. Church videos with harsh words for gays go viral online The local sheriff's office said the church had not reported any verifiable threats. No one answered the door at the home of Jeff Sangl, the church's pastor. The video of the singing boy was the latest in a string of viral anti-gay videos that have surfaced from independent churches. Those videos have been resoundingly condemned by religious leaders, even by conservatives who believe homosexual sex is a sin. The Apostolic Truth Tabernacle posted a statement on its website that says in part: "The Pastor and members of Apostolic Truth Tabernacle do not condone, teach, or practice hate of any person for any reason.” The pastor's son, Josh Sangl, told CNN his father was away on vacation and that there was much more to the video than we were being told, though he wouldn’t elaborate. The majority of the church members wouldn’t comment about the controversy or respond to questions about the parents of the young boy. Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter "I think it's blown out of proportion, you know," said Robert Kirby, who is not a church member but was attending Sunday's church service in support of his daughter, who teaches Sunday School there. "They love everybody. "They don't love sin though," he said. "It's all in the Bible." |
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That "pastor" sure lives in a huge house! So dark the con of man.
Ever notice, any church with "Truth" in its name tends to be narrow, intolerant and arrogant?
religion, pls go away. far, far away.
God damn you god damn atheist Stalin-lovers, I am going to explain faith to your hell-bound ignorant selves so that you get it and stop with all your fancy-pants talk-talk-talk stuff and bow down to the Lord!
Time to open your eyes and listen!
This is faith – I don't got any of your damn evidence, I don't know for sure, and I don't have any reason to believe, so therefore it's true.
End of story.
Uh, gee, I seem to detect a note of anger in your comment. i may be wrong, of course, you may be just joshing us.
Jesus said, "when you stand in prayer, forgive whatever you have against anybody, so that your Father in heaven may forgive your failings too." Mk. 11.25
Edar Allen Poo, get a grip! I saw Jesus in the backyard yesterday playing with the unicorns. He told me that when he and the leprechauns get together and play poker, they badmouth folks like you who are filled with hate and ignorance.
Ooh, Stalin. Dat 'stache.
(I think he's being facetious.)
Edgar Allen . . . Poe?
I know another church that preaches a lot of hate and our president belong to it for over 20 years!
Totally. Religion attracts all kinds of egomaniac screwballs.
Well, there is that. But it wouldn't be polite to mention it.
Like it or not these people have a right to their beliefs and a right to express them publicly.
@Albert Spencil, Yes, of course.
People tend to hate other people that exhibit traits they dislike in themselves.
screwball...period
The least they could do is get the kid a voice coach! hahaha
And once again another church shows the bigotry and hatred the world doesn't need.
And what is worse is that this is my birth state. Sigh!
THIS IS WRONG AND IMMORAL IT HURTS SO MUCH TO SEE THIS IT HURTS SO BAD HOW WRONG IS IT TO PUT A SMALL CHILD UP AND MAKE THEM SING HATEFUL LYRICS TO PEOPLE I AM A GAY MALE AND TONITE I HAVE LOST ALL FAITH IN MY COUNTRY I AM SERIOUSLY HURT
Don't lose faith in the country. Lose faith in god and religion. This is just par for the course. You don't hear the science community sitting around bashing gays.
have hope, brother. i am straight against hate. it's all of our fight when that kind of prejudice rears it's ugly head. my fiance and i protested against prop 8 in cali. religious bigotry will lose eventually, like it always does.
"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;..."
...which pretty much explains a lot of the comments here.
That would be easier to understand if it were in English.
Interesting. I thought you were referring to religious people—sound doctrine being sanity, and following after their own lusts being the part of themselves that they feed to generate hate and condemnation.
Itching ears may indicate rosacea, a common skin condition. Calamine lotion might help. Not listening to bigoted ignoramuses might help even more.
Of course it's all about love, this child loves gays and his grandfather, why just seventy years ago was in this very church singing about another group of people, let's see, I remember they rhymed with "triggers", yes, I remember now, I could feel the love throughout the church for this group.
>>>" why just seventy years ago was in this very church singing about another group of people, let's see, I remember they rhymed with "triggers", yes, I remember now, I could feel the love throughout the church for this group."
So does that mean that folks can change? If they can then pure reason has it that maybe one day you might as well. 🙂
Oh, get over it! You race-baiters should find a hole, crawl into it, and pull the hole in after you.
Isn't it time to find something else to hate? That kid could have a relative who is but I still smell one groups cheap diversion.. One can find hateful things in many various ways from various types of people but Church is a time to replenish the faith, not use it as a tool for hate.
Why do people live by the bible? It's just a book, which was written by man, and interpreted by man. Anyone who says otherwise is a blind idiot. Religious folks are some of the nastiest people I have ever encountered. They are judgmental, angry, hateful people. They divide the World more than anything else. I do not understand why civilized societies still believe in such lunacy. I guess we are not yet a civilized society.
>>>"Religious folks are some of the nastiest people I have ever encountered. They are judgmental, angry, hateful people. "
Are all of us? I ask because I talk with other members of the Black community and they say almost word for word what you just said about people of Faith. Why is it that all of you tend to echo each other. Even your statement of those who believe to follow the Bible is a idiot is straight out of Pat Robertson's and Bin Ladens playbook. The basic, if you choose to hold a view different than mine you are idiot or you are going to burn, etc etc...
Why be that way, unless you have met all of the people of Faith.
The Bible is the Word of God.
Trouble is, it was written in Aramaic, and no one alive today has a CLUE what it all means.
The church clearly says if you don't believe what it believes you are evil and going to h-e-l-l, that IS HATE.
That Robert Kirby guy's quote is telling. They don't consider gays to be people.
The scriptures are clear.
You mean, clearly written down by a human being.
Yes they are. This Greensboro cult is gonna rot in hell for hate.
"The Scriptures" were written over 2,000 years ago. In Aramaic. If you can tell us that you're a scholar of Aramaic who has studied the original tablets, they you're worth listening to. Otherwise, not.
Heaven is sounding less and less like a club that I care if I ever get into. Just send me to the opposite of the place these people are going to, please, God.
And yet, the "Faithful" never get the clue that they drive others away from Christ.
So do and some open Faith up to others. Depends on who you are speaking of.
I'm sorta hoping for "dead and out of trouble" myself.
wow it is a shame
this church doesn't hate and if you don't like it we'll kick your face in you immigrant pansy
Sorta like the Liberals saying that women have the right to do with their bodies as they wish .... but the state has the right to tell you how much soda you can drink because they know what's best for your body.
of course this church teaches hate. They can't redefine the word or the actions.
These church members are only been loyal to what it is clearly written on the Bible....You have two options for not basing hatred on the readings of the Bible, one, stop believing what the bible says or two read only the part that is convenient for the moral principles of our time. I'd say that is much better to throw it through a window unless you are a fan of old myths and legends. But even so, I'd rather read other better written books.
andres is a scholar of Aramaic and can tell us what the Bible really means. That's why he's on the faculty of a great university, has won the Nobel Prize, and... oh wait. He doesn't have a clue, does he?