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June 4th, 2012
05:43 PM ET
We don't teach hate, says church where anti-homosexual song filmedBy Ismael Estrada, CNN Greensburg, Indiana (CNN) - About 20 protesters gathered on Sunday outside the Apostolic Truth Tabernacle here to voice opposition to a viral online video that was taped in the church and shows a young child singing song with lyrics that offer a harsh message for homosexuals. The video, which surfaced on YouTube last week, shows a child in front of the congregation, singing "I know that God is right, and somebody's wrong... ain't no homo going to make it to heaven." The congregation erupts in applause at those lines, which the unidentified boy repeats as the pastor looks on. At another point in the video a voice is heard shouting,"That’s my boy." CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories In the first Sunday service since the video surfaced, congregants arrived to the church as protesters jeered them over the video. A church leader, who would not give his name, told CNN that journalists were not allowed inside the church and declined to offer anyone from church leadership to comment on the video. The leader said that he needed to be cautious about letting outsiders into the church because it had received threats over the video and asked CNN to leave the premises. Church videos with harsh words for gays go viral online The local sheriff's office said the church had not reported any verifiable threats. No one answered the door at the home of Jeff Sangl, the church's pastor. The video of the singing boy was the latest in a string of viral anti-gay videos that have surfaced from independent churches. Those videos have been resoundingly condemned by religious leaders, even by conservatives who believe homosexual sex is a sin. The Apostolic Truth Tabernacle posted a statement on its website that says in part: "The Pastor and members of Apostolic Truth Tabernacle do not condone, teach, or practice hate of any person for any reason.” The pastor's son, Josh Sangl, told CNN his father was away on vacation and that there was much more to the video than we were being told, though he wouldn’t elaborate. The majority of the church members wouldn’t comment about the controversy or respond to questions about the parents of the young boy. Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter "I think it's blown out of proportion, you know," said Robert Kirby, who is not a church member but was attending Sunday's church service in support of his daughter, who teaches Sunday School there. "They love everybody. "They don't love sin though," he said. "It's all in the Bible." soundoff (3,151 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 Next »
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Your just being ignorant Friend, stop listing to Right wing Tea Party / Fox Media infused hate.
The book of Genesis says "God created man in his own image" , so like you and me god also created them so how can he hate his own creation created in his own image, do you recall Jesus saying to hate them.
Its high time you stop listing to the hate speech of the right wing Tea party / Fox
The Bible says this and that......if you don't like it....GFYAD.............write you own holy book!
What an ignorant remark..."go write your own holy book".
The bible was written by man, not god, and it's far from "holy".
It reminds me of that scene in Cabaret...
"Tomorrow belongs to me"
That scene is so creepy. What a great movie, shows just how quickly hateful ideologies can infiltrate society.
"Perversion." That's really the crux of the matter, isn't it? The Christian right-wingers recoil at the thought of what many (not all) gays do in bed, thinking they'd find it horrible to do themselves. Nobody's saying you have to change your romantic life. ALL of their hate is over childish ick. End of story.
When your son starts playing with his buddy in the backyard, get back to me and tell how you feel.
You're wrong, blinky. It's not that they find it icky (though they probably do). It's that it seems *abnormal* to them - because it really doesn't fit into their sense of normalcy.
I'm not talking right or wrong or morals or anything. But hearing a woman call someone her wife (or a man calling someone his husband) is, well, startling to those who don't encounter it often... and for people who strongly value a stable sense of normalcy, that translates to it being bad.
@ a phobe
So you'd stop loving your child for being gay? If that's so, then I feel sorry for your kids.
Your screen name tells me all I need to know. Phobias are irrational fears. You seem pretty proud of being irrational.
People should not confuse the words 'church' and religion with those who believe in Christ as Christians. If you lump everyone together in one lot you are as ignorant as these people in the article.
Let's remember that when we're talking about the Muslims and Jews...
Of course it's not hate! That's a kinda-like 'em song. Their hate songs include "I'm gonna buy me a shotgun and kill all the niggers I see" and that lilting melody that everyone loves, "Let's all go down and bullwhip the faggots for Jesus!"
They also have some bad songs too.
How about this for a song: Ain't no christians gonna make it to heaven.
Sounds good to me!
Eli: I somehow don't think that song is going to make the rounds in many churches...
Inidividuals would be much better off if they decided to SYMBOLICALLY weed out hate altogether for sowing the seeds of peace.
my brain hurts frm reading the ignorance spewed by people who somehow have internet access, but apparently lack even a grade-school education.
The Bible states that male gays and those straights who commit adultry are to be stoned in public. When will these begin?
i don't know which is sadder – the ignorant congregants of that backwater church, or all the posters defending their hateful ways.
We will never advance as a species until religion is wiped from the planet.
why doesn't muhammed and jesus just come back and fight it out at halftime of the superbowl? the winnner would then be the head of world religion.
They don't hate? Really? I don't think we should ignore this kind of ignorant hate.
That's what it is. Anyone who says otherwise is equally hateful. This is not what Jesus taught or lived or died for. First it's gays, then who? How far are they willing to go in the name of God? Or Allah? or any other deity?
I agree. Plus the kid could not sing. Seriously. If they're gonna teach a kid a hate song at least pick a kid that can carry a tune.
who really cares??? i believe gay people have just as much right to be miserable, oops I meant married, as straight people. But honestly, are we not animals ourselves? like it or not, religious or not, gay is, by nature, incorrect to say the least. But, these people who preach the "What would Jesus do?" thing should remember one of his most famous quotes," let he who is without sin throw the first stone" am I right or wrong?
@agent
"But honestly, are we not animals ourselves? like it or not, religious or not, [using a bathroom, penicillin, the internet, democracy, etc.] is, by nature, incorrect to say the least."
While I don't have anything against gays and I feel they can do whatever they want, there is a sense that this whole issue is pressed on the society as a form of advertisement. By advertising gays people's attention gets diverted from more important issues.
For example, there was a gay pride festival in Riga, Latvia last weekend. For some reason the U.S. ambassador Judith Garber did the speech and the U.S. ambassador from Estonia also flew in to participate. People were waving American flags.... Now why would there be such American political export as gays to a foreign country?
Also, Obama gives an ok for the gay marriage!?? The country is going down the tubes with unemployment, wars, medical care you name it.
People need to be smart these days. Don't take everything for granted they tell you. Do not bash the gays, but do read the Bible and stay closer to God!
holy crap that was poorly written. Note to self: ignore
>>>"I feel sorry for this kid. He was manipulated by adults. its a shame..."
Yeah, the Left does not manipulate children ever...
http://www.amazon.com/It-Takes-Village-Lessons-Children/dp/0684825457
Want to keep to the subject at hand?
Wanfu, tell it to all the people on here going after the right on equally baseless grounds.
A week doesn't go by without CNN publishing a PRO-Gay article. Somebody's gay in CNN's upper management.
Someone's probably gay in your family Bubba, so what's your point? Don't you know by now they're everywhere?!? (No where to run to baby, no where to hide...)
I get lectured by my immediate and extended families all the time about not attending church (I am Agnostic). My family is very religious. Watching videos like this one only remind me of why I stopped attending church at age 18 in the first place. It's sad when people become so religious to the point of delusion that they lose all ability to be objective. How is it that I can see so clearly what's wrong in that video but those "Christians" sitting in the pews cannot? Then, they'll have the gall to proclaim themselves to be morally superior to you and me.
When I have kids, they're not going anywhere near a church. I will teach them to love and respect others. Their religion will be Education.
Youre right. No one should report about discrimination. In fact, I believe every time we hear hate speech, or some g@y person is beat or murdered because of their orientation, we should close our eyes, plug our ears, and scream 'LA LA LA LA LA LAAAAAA!!!' because I too would like to live in a fantasy world:-))
Interesting how there was so much enjoyment while it was happening but when the world was given access to view that enjoyment and the media susequently came calling with the question of whether this was something a small child should be taught and encouraged to do (as he obviously was – I mean really, the kid didn't compose that ditty himself ) no one involved was steadfast enough in their so-called faith to stand up and say it was something they were proud of. I'd love to know who shot and posted the video.
We have to protect children from h o m o s e x u a l s.
You need to meet some. I was once like you and then met a Gay family and they were more of a family than a lot of the Jerry Springer types.
It's not only our right to protect our children from perversion, it is our responsibility.
My goal is to teach my daughter to ignore closed minded idiots like Mitch
Actually, we need to protect our children from i d I o t s, who preach hatered and bigotry, then hide behind the Bible. Cowards.
What if one of your children is gay? What will you do then?
I briefly lived near Greensburg (actually in a neighboring county). That whole part of Indiana is saturated with Apostolics, and while I love rural America in general, I hated that place with a passion. I've spent a lot of time in isolated areas of much-maligned Appalachia and I never saw anything in Appalachia to compare with the backwardness and general freakiness of rural central and southern Indiana. I suspect a secret nuclear waste dump exists in the town I lived in; even inbreeding couldn't explain the high rate of birth defects I saw there. Really, there is nothing in most of that wretched state worth seeing. It's like they're from another country. Or planet.
Good chances they were saying the same thing about you.
Mark, an insult from such people is about as meaningful as a cannibal calling someone uncivilized. Their opinions are without value to anyone with the slightest degree of education, culture, or character.
C'mon Mark. You know they 're way too busy teaching their children to sing offensive songs off key to worry about what anybody else has to say...
I feel sorry for this kid. He was manipulated by adults. its a shame...
I'm proud of this kid for standing up for what is right. 30 states have voted against perversion.
Once again, bigots like Mitch want to take away rights and be big brother. Disgusting and hopefully views like his will disappear like the ignorant racists of the past
@Mitch Ryder, If a kid knows what is right and can "stand up for it" why do adults need to teach them what is right? Your logic is really buggy. I suggest you download a version of Civilization 1999 or later to correct the issue. Warning, your system may not be compatible with modern thoughts as they require increased processing power.
@ Mitch ... what are you going to do if the Supreme Court overturns Prop. 8? That would render the laws in those 30 states unconsti'tutional, and they would have to erase those laws. Do you have a plan "B" if that happens, and if so, what is it?
You've gotta feel sorry for gays. They are reaching for anything – now comparing themselves to Jews in Nazi Germany or even going so far to claim racism when anybody speaks the truth about their per.version. I didn't know that hom.os.exuality was a race.
I feel sorry for your brain cel. It must be very lonely.
Yeah, how silly of gays to compare themselves to the Jews. After all, it's not like you've got people saying that the government should exterminate them or put them into concentration camps...
Blane, I guess you didn't know that gays were exterminated in concentration camps by the Nazis.
And it doesn't take gays to stand up for social tolerance, anyone can do it.
Ignore this silly church. These fire and Brimstone preachers are full of hyperbole but they don't literally mean to harm someone physically. It's like when one says "I could have killed him" about ones child. It's not to be taken literally.
and neither is the book they love to quote from.