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June 4th, 2012
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We don't teach hate, says church where anti-homosexual song filmedBy Ismael Estrada, CNN Greensburg, Indiana (CNN) - About 20 protesters gathered on Sunday outside the Apostolic Truth Tabernacle here to voice opposition to a viral online video that was taped in the church and shows a young child singing song with lyrics that offer a harsh message for homosexuals. The video, which surfaced on YouTube last week, shows a child in front of the congregation, singing "I know that God is right, and somebody's wrong... ain't no homo going to make it to heaven." The congregation erupts in applause at those lines, which the unidentified boy repeats as the pastor looks on. At another point in the video a voice is heard shouting,"That’s my boy." CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories In the first Sunday service since the video surfaced, congregants arrived to the church as protesters jeered them over the video. A church leader, who would not give his name, told CNN that journalists were not allowed inside the church and declined to offer anyone from church leadership to comment on the video. The leader said that he needed to be cautious about letting outsiders into the church because it had received threats over the video and asked CNN to leave the premises. Church videos with harsh words for gays go viral online The local sheriff's office said the church had not reported any verifiable threats. No one answered the door at the home of Jeff Sangl, the church's pastor. The video of the singing boy was the latest in a string of viral anti-gay videos that have surfaced from independent churches. Those videos have been resoundingly condemned by religious leaders, even by conservatives who believe homosexual sex is a sin. The Apostolic Truth Tabernacle posted a statement on its website that says in part: "The Pastor and members of Apostolic Truth Tabernacle do not condone, teach, or practice hate of any person for any reason.” The pastor's son, Josh Sangl, told CNN his father was away on vacation and that there was much more to the video than we were being told, though he wouldn’t elaborate. The majority of the church members wouldn’t comment about the controversy or respond to questions about the parents of the young boy. Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter "I think it's blown out of proportion, you know," said Robert Kirby, who is not a church member but was attending Sunday's church service in support of his daughter, who teaches Sunday School there. "They love everybody. "They don't love sin though," he said. "It's all in the Bible." |
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@LewBasnight
"Oh, that's a neat trick. The degenerates in our country have decided to rename "having morals" "hate." By that sleight of hand, they have made having morals a bad thing. That is usually how liberals argue, not by presenting facts or logical arguments, but by changing labels.
June 5, 2012 at 6:39 am"
how do you figure condoning the sluring of "ho-mo" moral.......the funny thing is all humans are
"ho-mo"........sapiens. people like you once thought it was moral to call people of african decent N.....r; well this is a new century and "moral" isn't teaching children to sing some disgusting song of hate. does it bring you peace at night when you think ONLY your little group is going to heaven? you want to know the main deference between atheists and theists? theists require a reward/punishment system to make them attempt to be "better" people. atheists don't have such a reward/punishment system, we are nice because we want to be.
this is from your own book........look closely at number 7 and what it saids "god" hates;
In the Book of Proverbs (Mishlai), King Solomon stated that the Lord specifically regards "six things the Lord hateth, and the seventh His soul detesteth." namely"
1.A proud look.
2.A lying tongue.
3.Hands that shed innocent blood.
4.A heart that devises wicked plots.
5.Feet that are swift to run into mischief.
6.A deceitful witness that uttereth lies.
7.Him that soweth discord among brethren.
so i guess we will be keeping a seat warm for you in hell.
The bible is just a story book and a poorly written one. It's just like the Brothers Grimm, but people don't believe in that. You live in a time when there is more freedom than ever before in the history of mankind and you choose to be a slave to a lie and blinded to your own hypocrisy. What the kid sang is only true because there is no heaven for anyone.
Does Jeremiah Wright give sermons here ?
Everyone knows muslims and jews adore gays.It's just those pesky christians and catholics.Sticking in the shallow end of the pool again where it's safe I see, huh CNN.
Right. Go to bare naked islam dot com and watch the video of the Muzlim cutting off the head of a Christian for converting to Christianity from ISLAM in Tunisia, the country that OBAMA says is the most liberal Muzlim nation and yelling Allah Akbar "Meaning our GOD is greater than YOUR GOD" while holding the mans head up for all the Muzlims to rejoice over THEIR GOD! They do this as a favor to ALLAH! And you people are worrying about Christians?
You dumb azzzzz liberals better figure out who the real enemy is in this world. Those muzzies dont like hom o's. In case you haven't heard.
Frank ... their "Allah" and your "god" are the exact same thing. It's the SAME deity. "Allah" is simply the Arabic word for "god", nothing more nothing less.
Ok Miriosol, go post some links to Christians cutting unbeliever heads off then! You stupid bassstard!
@frank:"
Ok Miriosol, go post some links to Christians cutting unbeliever heads off then! You stupid bassstard!:"
where to begin........ let's start with the genocide of most carribbean islander, follow that with the attempted genocide of the native americans, along with central and south american natives, the salem witch trials, hmmmmmmm the list just keeps going on and on all done in the name of "god" let's not forget the catholic popes contribution to the extermination of people from the 1300's to present. so i would say neither religion is free of skeletons in their closet.
Hey Mirasol, you GOOF. Lets try and keep this conversion within oh, lets say. The last 1700 years OK! ? Im talking about MUZLIMS in Tunisia cutting off the heads of NON BELIEVERS
"LAST WEEK!" And your bringing up burning witches at the stake in comparison?
No one here is concerned what people did 1700 years ago! My GOD (no pun intended!) Your comparing current Christians to burning witches at the stake? Typical Liberal living in FANTASY LAND!
The Salem witch trials were in 1692. Let's see.....2012-1692 = you came up with 1700 years ago????? Frank my 3 year old is much smarter than you are!!!
Oh and there are Christians calling for concentration camps and killing gays in the present day. For all you know the way they want to kill them is to cut their heads off. Or worse.
And it's 'you're comparing', not 'your comparing'. Seriously, how do you manage to get by with less than a first grade education?
@frank: i can assure you i am in no form or fashion, mirosal. i have had this handle since the dawn of time, not to mention mirosal is a female where as i'm a male.
you simply asked for links to christians committing the same actions as islamics, next time be more specific.
Hey, my President attended a church like this.They hated white people though, not gays.
the bible..it is used to justify their actions... how many of them have been divorced? the bible tells us Jesus HATES divorce. and it says to kill non virgins who get married and to kill members of other religions..but do these folk preach that? of course not, cause their ignorance and hate do not want them to. there are many many things and reasons that the bible instructs us to kill others but these right wing ill informed church goers ignore that and focus on what they want. is that what Jesus would do?
At least they're not racist backward ghetto thugs like Jeremiah Wright.
I wouldn't take them too seriously. They talk to invisible people.
YOU NUTJOBS WILL NEVER CONVINCE ME OR MY FAMILY THAT ...GAY IS OKAY........END OF STORY AND GOOD RIDDANCE TO ALL
Apparently in your family stupidy is inherited.
Good for you, Joe. Hold onto your bigotry and teach it to your kids.
NO one is interested in you or your digusting family of bigots. For someone who is anti-gay, you sure do read alot about it, don't you? You chose to read this article only so you could attack with your hateful comments. I doubt you got passed the 6th grade, if that.
Joe is either a member of Westboro, where they are ALL family, or this church, and they are probbaly all related as well. Joe, how's your sister/wife/mom doing? I bet that when their birthdays are near, you only have to buy ONE gift!! And that gift would be the tail off of a squirrel you shot for food from the window of your double-wide.
@joe: In the Book of Proverbs (Mishlai), King Solomon stated that the Lord specifically regards "six things the Lord hateth, and the seventh His soul detesteth." namely:
1.A proud look.
2.A lying tongue.
3.Hands that shed innocent blood.
4.A heart that devises wicked plots.
5.Feet that are swift to run into mischief.
6.A deceitful witness that uttereth lies.
7.Him that soweth discord among brethren.
you notice what number 7 is? congrats you just commited a cardinal sin that god hates the most. 🙂
Gay is OK? Speak for yourself and teach YOUR OWN KIDS that SODOMY IS OK you twisted POS.
Frank ... sod'o'my is not a ga'y thing. Straight people engage in it as well. You're so focused on ga'y men. Remember, women can be ga'y as well.
Right. Its ok if corn holing another man from behind is "OK" and something you want to explain to your children and tell them its ok. You have to be one sick SOB to do something like that. That's about as sick as it gets. That's CHILD ABUSE!
@frank: well if you think it's child abuse to educate "children" on the different facets of human life, then how exactly do you explain to your children why they should hate gays? you would have to explain in a negetive light the actions taken between two people that care very much about each other.
p.s. my wife loves anal, so it's not a "gay" thing.
Frank: You're a bigot and so is your friend Joe. I can only as.sume that you have forgotten what century we reside in given how bigoted you are...the following are facts based in the century we do reside in. Denying these facts only proves how stupid you truly are. I call them as I see them...you wish to hate gays based on a 2000 year old, I wish to hate your bigotry!\
http://livinglifewithoutanet.wordpress.com/2011/07/26/what-does-science-say-about-gay-relationships/
"The belief that hom.os.exuality is abnormal and unhealthy is prevalent in the Christian community, and is the foundation of a great deal of Christian bigotry. For the time being, however, bigotry is not enough justification to subvert the consti.tution. Throughout the ongoing debate over the definition of marriage, Right Wing bigots have cited the damage caused by hom.ose.xuality and hom.os.exual relationships in an attempt to justify legal discrimination against gays.The scientific evidence on the matter is out there. (It has been for many years.) Had we simply trusted evidence years ago, there would be no more debate — at least no debate worth taking seriously. Sadly, very few people are aware of the evidence, and wouldn’t know where to find it if they wanted to look. This article presents some of the most compelling conclusions from recent scientific studies.
Children of Gays: One of the most common accusations is that children of gay parents are more likely to suffer developmentally, more likely to become gay, or more likely to have emotional problems. In 1996, Mike Allen and Nancy Burrell published a peer reviewed study on the subject. They found the following: ”The results demonstrate no differences on any measures between the heteros.exual and hom.ose.xual parents regarding parenting styles, emotional adjustment, and se.xual orientation of the child(ren). In other words, the data fail to support the continuation of a bias against hom.ose.xual parents by any court.” (The full text is available through PsychNet if you’d like to read it. There is a modest fee for membership.)In 2006, Gregory Herek replicated the conclusions: ”The data indicate that same-se.x and heter.ose.xual relationships do not differ in their essential psychosocial dimensions; that a parent’s se.xual orientation is unrelated to her or his ability to provide a healthy and nurturing family environment.” (Also available through PsychNet.) In 2001, Judith Stacey and Timothy Biblarz discovered something rather startling. While children of gay and lesbian parents don’t “become gay” any more than children of heterose.xuals, daughters of lesbian couples do display one very different behavior: They play better with male children and have more gender-neutral views of society. (Isn’t that what we want? For women to choose their own destinies sans gender impositions?) “53 percent (16 out of 30) of the daughters of lesbians aspired to careers such as doctor, lawyer, engineer, and astronaut, compared with only 21 percent (6 of 28) of the daughters of heterose.xual mothers.”Overall, Stacey and Biblarz found that “Lesbigay parents and their children in these studies display no differences from heteros.exual counterparts in psychological well-being or cognitive functioning.”
Adult Gay Relationships: Failing to prove that children are harmed by having gay parents, many Christian bigots will go on to claim that ho.mose.xual relationships are “inherently” less stable, less emotionally fulfilling, and psychologically damaging. This claim is also contradicted by the evidence.A 2003 empirical study by Gottman, et al, of the interaction between heter.os.exual and ho.mose.xual couples found that “same-s.ex couples actually demonstrated more positive (and fewer negative) behaviors during their interactions than did married couples.” The 2003 study had a small sample, so Roissman, et al, conducted a more thorough and broader series of studies in 2008. They found “individuals in committed same-se.x relationships were generally not distinguishable from their committed heterose.xual counterparts, with one exception–lesbians were especially effective at working together harmoniously in laboratory observations.”Empirical evidence for actual levels of infidelity in either hete.rose.xuals or ho.mose.xuals is very difficult to come by. Varying cultural and ethnic definitions, self-reporting bias, and social concerns have rendered the body of evidence difficult to interpret. At best. There is no data available for divorce rates among gays — since gay marriage has never been allowed in the U.S. However, it’s important to note that there are no reliable studies linking hom.ose.xuality with higher levels of relationship infidelity.Recent publications have questioned the reality of monogamy as a historical tradition. In The Myth of Monogamy, Barash and Lipton present a compelling (and cross-disciplinary) argument that heteros.exual couples have never been paragons of fidelity to begin with. In other words, it appears that lots of people — both gay and straight — cheat. The Roissman study backed up this conclusion with the observation that both gay and straight couples’ relationship satisfaction was based more on non-se.xual factors like parental support and modeling. Not se.xual orientation.In short, the arguments from the Christian bigots fail. They do not reflect reality, but rather a religious ideological agenda. There is no evidence whatsoever that gays are inherently less healthy, happy, or faithful than straights. There is no evidence that children of gays suffer any harm. In fact, there’s reasonable evidence that children of lesbians are more socially accepting and well adjusted — especially girls."
So now the sodomy lovers are pulling the BIGOT card. Anyone who isnt on the DEVIANT BAND WAGON is a bigot. Im a bigot because I dont condone SODOM!? LOL! Thats should tell the world just how SICK this nation is becoming with the the twisted liberals and their BROKEN MINDS.
They all have the morals of alley cat.
Save your long winded BS to prove how normal sodomy is. I dont want to hear it. Point is, even if G OD never existed, Ho m ose xuality would still make 9 out of 10 people SICK. Its PERVERTED no matter what the bible says. You all act like this is a GOD thing or a Bible thing.
SOD OMY is a sick and twisted deviant act even if Religion and G OD never existed! GET IT!? Thats why after most do it you have get a penicillin shot to knock out the nasty infections is causes! ITS NOT NORMAL! The bacteria in FE C ES in not suppose to be shoved down your urethra!
Frank – Once again, sodomy is simply non-pènile/vàginal sèx. The gender and orientation of the participants is irrelevant. 50% of us straights have had anal sèx, and 80% of us straights have oral sèx.
We are all sodomites. Go Team Sodomy!
Frank is setting off my ga.ydar...!!!
I'm almost certain he has dark fantasies about manmeat.
It's always the most vitriolic hom.ophobes that are the closeted ones.
Frank, wide stance in the rest area stalls, by chance...??
Ironic that those who profess no belief in God like to quote bible. They preach tolerance but have none for those who oppose their view.
No, they've simply read the whole thing, unlike a lot of professed Christians.
Oh I see. Thanks for clearing that up.
IF THEY PUT SOME HAIR AND DOODOO AROUND THE EDGES OF THE BIBLE IM SURE ALL THE GAYS WOULD READ IT..
OR THEYD TRY TO MAKE LOVE TO IT..AHAHHAHAHA
Joe ,
You are a hairy doodoo. Can I make love to you ?
Joe, close your bedroom door while you fantacise. It is only good manners.
LOL! Good one Joe! Nice to see we have some people on here with some morals and class. And not only the bung hole loving liberals disgracing America
"'people on here with some morals and class"
Coming from a 67 IQ duncecapper who has typed cornhole and sodomy at least 30 times on this thread alone.
Yeah, classy, very classy.
Most who challenge the word of God through sin, which is total disobedience and does not seek change through repentance, will answer to God come judgement day. We must approach all sinners with spiritual discernment and wisdom. (Matthew 7:5) "You hypocrite,First remove the beam from your own eye, and then you will see clearly enough to remove the speck from your brother's eye." In 1 Corinthians 5:12-13, we see that he passes this responsibility on to the church family: "It isn’t the church responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly is the church responsibility to restore those inside the church who are sinning. God will judge those on the outside . . . Remember, Unbelievers are watching our lives. We are to be a light in a dark world, a city set on a hill. If the church looks no different than the world, then it loses its witness. Know when it is time to shake the dust off your feeds an d move on. Period.
I challenge the word of a god, but I don't sin. I am an atheist, so how can I sin?
And how pray tell are we supposed to read the tale of the Levite's concubine and its startling resemblance to the tale of Sodom and Gomorrah?
idiot
Saggyray . . . 1 Corinthians 2: v9 However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him"– v14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
@turn:In the Book of Proverbs (Mishlai), King Solomon stated that the Lord specifically regards "six things the Lord hateth, and the seventh His soul detesteth." namely:[4]
1.A proud look.
2.A lying tongue.
3.Hands that shed innocent blood.
4.A heart that devises wicked plots.
5.Feet that are swift to run into mischief.
6.A deceitful witness that uttereth lies.
7.Him that soweth discord among brethren.
turnaway: your empty proxy threats are laughable. now, get back on your knees, open your mouth and get ready for the second coming of jesus
WASP, why are you quoting scripture that you obviously don't believe? You have no point to make. Oh, I get it, you are judging me. The devil is always the accuser of the brethren. Carry on, I shell be the burning stick of Joshua.
"Carry on, I shell be the burning stick of Joshua'
You certainly sound like someone who is infatuated with other men's sticks.
These churches do condone, teach and practice hate towards gays. I've heard them and have seem the signs. How can they say any different. I also don't think that all churches are like this.
You want to see hate by religion, go look on the front page of bare naked dot com and watch the video of Muzlims cutting the head off of a man who decided he wanted to be Christian and left ISLAM. GO HARASS THE PEOPLE CUTTING OFF HEADS! And get off the backs of the religion and principles of the bible that has made this country WHAT IT IS! God and the 10 commandments are carved in marble and wood on government buildings on every square foot of this nation!
No, Frank, Freedom from religious tyranny is what made this country what it is. Try again
"God and the 10 commandments are carved in marble and wood on government buildings on every square foot of this nation!"
The supreme court seems to disagree with you.
It can all be traced to man's fear of death. I believe that's what religion all boils down to. Some people will cling to anything, in this case the Bible and it's many stories of fantasy, to somehow get it in their minds that they will live forever as long as they accept whatever is written in the Bible. Anything that threatens what the Bible says therefore threatens their immortality, so some people will believe everything it says, regardless of how absurd. The pull is so strong to some people that they can graduate from a top university and yet believe that Jonah was swallowed by a whale, and God inscribed the ten commandments on stones while Moses sat on a mountain waiting for him to finsh.
1 Corinthians 2: v9 However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him"– v14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
wow turnaway, what a completely logical argument. the person who doesn't believe isn't blessed with the gifts of belief? so does that mean that if you believe really, really hard you are more blessed by god with the power of belief? circular logic is wonderful because it is circular and logical...
Jon, All men are flawed and without God's mercy and grace, will perish. The teaching of Jesus the Christ is our mercy and grace, for He is the right hand of God. Period. Hold on, your life depend on it.
Turnaway ... ALL men will perish. Everything dies. DUH!! regardless of any belief or non-belief in ANY deity.
Mirosal, my friend, I speak of spiritual death, which keep us from walking amongst the land of the living.
turnaway. Try walking in peace with your neighbors right here, right now, and stop putting it off. Damning others is no slicker a trick than Frank's beloved beheading posts. It's all the same thing, and brings you all the same internal satisfaction to obliterate.
I walk amongst the living every day, and I'm an Atheist. I just do not hold my life to mythology, and to a deity that is just like any other throughout history. Deities did not exist, do not exist now, and will not exist in the future. I have much better things to do in my life than worry about what some invisible being will think of me, and then try to conform to the wishes of something that has NO basis in fact.
without fear, much religion is dead in the water
Temper, temper, temper . . . Why so angry? I walk with the Fruit of the Spirit, here, take a bite and count it all joy.
Is being an Atheist a religion? Most who claim that they are atheist are just angry and confused as to how they actually exist. They think that they created them selves or came from some momma monkey. Who's your daddy, King Kong?
@ turn away
King Kong is a Hollywood fantasy character. It is apparent that, in your delusion based on your illusions, you can not separate fact from fiction.
All of the logical and rational positions presented to you would not make a dent in the invisible shield you carry in front of you. The fact that you believe your (warlike) shield is actually protecting you from something dangerous is entertaining, to say the least. But look carefully at the company you keep. They are all deluded like you, just in a thousand different directions than you and your path. Which essentially makes them wrong in your eyes. Thus exists the fragmentation of the Sunday Fundies, each hidden in his own little Temple of Doom, cursing the darkness.
Lighten up, honey. You will find that Life is indeed worth living, right here, right Now.
Wow jungleboo, totally unbelievable. You are all over this board imposing the very thing you claim to hate, forced beliefs and opinion. You are among the self righteous with your limited world views based on the perceived visual lies of the illusion and delusion of self grander. Like myself, you are of absolute nothingness until you realize that we were created with purpose in mind. Until then, you are meaningless and will continue to exist for no reason. Period.
They won't comment because they can't justify putting a 3 year old little boy in front of the world making him a scapegoat for their hateful "cause". That preacher and his groupies were oh so proud of teaching a child bigotry and making their pathetic claims of not hating anyone but hating the "sin". So, I take it no one in that church has ever divorced? Eaten shellfish? Lied? Or a million other "sins" the Bible states? Let me get this right...if a woman divorces and remarries, she is to be stoned to death? Regardless of which testament that comes from, that one doesn't count for you bigots, correct? Got it. You should all be ashamed. A 3 year old boy has no clue what he is singing about. I call that abuse.
The Jews begged God to give them a set of rules by which to live, He didn't want to but they insisted and God obliged knowing they would break every one. It is a picture of what happens when humans are given their own way. Are you able to quote something other than Leviticus? How about something in context?
"...begged God to give them a set of rules by which to live, He didn't want to but they insisted and God obliged..."
Are you out of your mind? Were you born with this information or was it branded on your mind by some church "elder"? Stone cold cookoo. Any young person who is reading this and wondering what is up with his church would have to come to his senses and break free and run as fast as he can away from you folks. Thank you for supporting our cause!
NAME 1 CONTRIBUTION MADE BY THE GAY SOCIETY BESIDES AIDS AND ANAL WARTS......
Look in the entertainment industry. Also look at the quality of life in coutries that legalized ga'y marriage. You'll find quite a few of them in the top 10 lists.
Name one of yours.
They have served this country so you can come on here and make a total ass of yourself. Go back to cleaning your chicken coup.
How about....fashionable yet functional shoes and fabulous show tunes. That's two.
The computer you're using depends on the work of gay mathematician Alan Turing.
YOU
Name one contribution that the right wing nutjob evangelical community has contributed to society.
JOSEPH, I said close your door!! You are making too much noise and you are disturbing the baby!
Its becoming obvious that this nation is headed to another civil war in the next generation or so. Half the nation are conservatives who believe in what made the country great on one side and on the other we have the communists / liberal trash who HATE America and the Christian principles it was created on. The Muzlims and ISLAM will probably take control with Shariah Law before that happens maybe with all weak minded liberal fools coming out of our colleges.
Too bad I wont be around to fight for America. Wish I was younger.
Uhhh, Frank, your numbers are dreadfully inaccurate. Check my post at the top of page 24. If you have a shred of mathematical intelligence, you'll see that your little Sunday Fundies group are quite a bizarre little minority in our wonderful country. And out Founding Fathers, while nodding to a Supreme Being, were wise not to have mentioned Xtinanity (sic). For that reason alone, we are safe from your desire for civil war. You are being laughed off the planet, not shot with rifle.
Note: My post about the percentages of BAC activity in the USA is at the bottom of page 24, not top...
Im a Christian and I love you all. Even other Christians.
Yeah, it's like, "I love every one. I just think anyone who doesn't believe as I do deserves to burn in hell"
One on one, I'm not sure who you know who claims to be a Christian, but I don't believe that way. I have friends who are gay, and even though i have the right to the opinion that i dont agree with their lifestyle, i love them dearly, but my opinion isn't that I'm going to heaven and they're not as I'm not God.
No One one, its just the DEVIANTS who are frowned upon. Sodomizers are not really good role models for Children. Or I suppose thats OK for "YOUR" kids huh Mr Liberal?
I really don't see what is so bad about the song. It really is about context. I am a sure that church doesn't think Mormons or Jews are going to make it into their little corner of heaven either. Let them have their afterlife on little fluffy clouds where only believing family members will be allowed to go.
I don't want anything to do that church and I certainly have NO desire to spend eternity with them. No one is going to my heaven. Sorry, it's fully booked and my God is not taking any more reservations. I'm going solo for one simple reason- I want to rest in peace! That means no singing, dancing, laughing, crying... nothing... I simply want my peace!
Who really wants to go to heaven anyway? Seems it will be chock full of noisy malcontents. No thanks!
Don't you think it's offensive that people are cheering and celebrating what they believe will be the eternal torture of other people in hell? Personally, I find it repulsive.
Don't judge the Mighty Hands of God by the people who walk next to you, whether be he, christian, none christian or none believer , for we are all sinners. God may not be the god for you, but He is the creator of all things and has the absolute right and power to do as He please. Period.
Expect nothing less from Republicans.This church is probably 99.9% Republican.
this sounds like a sick form of child abuse, akin to children being raised by white supremists.
Yeah. And teaching your children that sticking your hammer in another mans pooop shoot is NORMAL is not child abuse?
Sick bassstards!
Frank great point and the prize. We still have to deduct a few points, due to anger and harsh language. Right is right and after the dust has cleared, will be the only one standing. Period.