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June 4th, 2012
05:43 PM ET
We don't teach hate, says church where anti-homosexual song filmedBy Ismael Estrada, CNN Greensburg, Indiana (CNN) - About 20 protesters gathered on Sunday outside the Apostolic Truth Tabernacle here to voice opposition to a viral online video that was taped in the church and shows a young child singing song with lyrics that offer a harsh message for homosexuals. The video, which surfaced on YouTube last week, shows a child in front of the congregation, singing "I know that God is right, and somebody's wrong... ain't no homo going to make it to heaven." The congregation erupts in applause at those lines, which the unidentified boy repeats as the pastor looks on. At another point in the video a voice is heard shouting,"That’s my boy." CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories In the first Sunday service since the video surfaced, congregants arrived to the church as protesters jeered them over the video. A church leader, who would not give his name, told CNN that journalists were not allowed inside the church and declined to offer anyone from church leadership to comment on the video. The leader said that he needed to be cautious about letting outsiders into the church because it had received threats over the video and asked CNN to leave the premises. Church videos with harsh words for gays go viral online The local sheriff's office said the church had not reported any verifiable threats. No one answered the door at the home of Jeff Sangl, the church's pastor. The video of the singing boy was the latest in a string of viral anti-gay videos that have surfaced from independent churches. Those videos have been resoundingly condemned by religious leaders, even by conservatives who believe homosexual sex is a sin. The Apostolic Truth Tabernacle posted a statement on its website that says in part: "The Pastor and members of Apostolic Truth Tabernacle do not condone, teach, or practice hate of any person for any reason.” The pastor's son, Josh Sangl, told CNN his father was away on vacation and that there was much more to the video than we were being told, though he wouldn’t elaborate. The majority of the church members wouldn’t comment about the controversy or respond to questions about the parents of the young boy. Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter "I think it's blown out of proportion, you know," said Robert Kirby, who is not a church member but was attending Sunday's church service in support of his daughter, who teaches Sunday School there. "They love everybody. "They don't love sin though," he said. "It's all in the Bible." soundoff (3,151 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 Next »
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If you're reading this; hate is exactly what you teach. Christ would not be pleased.
Try this.
The c o n c e p t of "The Christ", the God within, the Spiritual at One with the Material, is violated by this hate-preaching. The major mistake that Christians make is puppetizing their original concepts and ideas into walking, talking marionettes who do and say things that please them (the Christians) through their string pulling.
That mistake of creating literal puppets out of ethereal concepts causes the very fragmentations that Christian faiths have become, as in, "No, he said this!" "No, He said This!" "NO! HE SAID THIS!". if all of the Christians would give up their puppet shows and meditate on the basic message that mankind discovered several thousand years ago (The Christ Within -the "crossing" of the spiritual or quantum with the material or visible), everyone would be good neighbors and forget that they are divided by puppet scripts.
Yes, we do not teach hate. Unless you are a fruit pop, a black, a brown, an Asian, a liberal, a believer in climate change, pro-choice, pro-education, dislike Rush Limbaugh or are a critical thinker.
Couldn't have summed it up better. No, they don't "teach hate", they just practice it.
No..you don't teach hate..you just teach bigotry and intolerance..you can sugarcoat it all you want to make yourself feel better,but hate disguised as either is still HATE.
"Satan Himself" could not have devised a better cloak of invisibility that the shroud these Christians have wrapped themselves in. Their self-proclaimed right to speak about the supernatural, whatever that is, is Ego at its finest.
I bet there would be a different reaction if the song was "Ain't no black man gonna make it to heaven". As long as it is gays, it is ok apparently.
Most of the Tea Party / Fox News Inspired are just being ignorant, stop listing to Right wing Tea Party / Fox Media infused hate.
The book of Genesis says "God created man in his own image" , so like you and me god also created them so how can he hate his own creation created in his own image, do you recall Jesus saying to hate them or they wont goto heaven, going to heaven is strickly based upon the deeds we do here.
Its high time you stop listing to the hate speech of the right wing Tea party / Fox
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so they don't condone hate for anyone...okay cool good for them...so what's with the people cheering and applauding at those lines of the song and "that's my boy!"...........doesn't that kind of contradict the whole "we don't teach hate or condone it in any way" and blow it out of the water?
"That's my boy" is my favorite line in the song! Can you guess why???....
only if you can guess why i don't care?
Tou are too old to get it.
People! it's Indiana!!! What else could you expect from a group of backward troglodytes!?? If you did DNA testing the people in that state would only be one or two generations away from the neanderthals.
Hatred wrapper in prayer is still hatred. Religion distorts reality and is the root of all evil.
Don't be afraid of my hate stick. All the boys like it...
It's all in the Bible "Jesus did not come to condem us, but to save us". He also told us to " love God first, and others as ourselves". God made us all and He commanded us to love all! Any church teaching/preaching judgement is not true chritianity. It's all in the Bible.
"I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" (Gospel of Matthew 10:34)
Whatever your opinions, there's probably a quote in the Bible that's both for and against your position.
The church also needs to remember the part in the bible about corrupting children. What's killing Christianity are Christians. Soooo sad that this church needs to spend so much energy condemning others.
God does not give anyone the right to judge. Read the rest of the Bible. Not just what fits your opinion.
You Preach Hate.
The G man has (Biblically of course, seeing as he doesn't exist outside Bizarro World) used people to dish out his own brand of horrific justice though (looking at you Moses). Maybe these preachers see themselves as modern Mosi (plural) without the high body count.
Yes, we do not teach hate. Unless you are a fruit pop, a black, a brown, an Asian, a liberal, a believer in climate change, pro-choice, pro-education, dislike Rush Limbaugh or a critical thinker.
Dang it, I was doing fine up until pro choice.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... chances are it's a duck.
If the song sounds like hate and it's intent is hate... I'm thinking it just may be hate.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck; shoot it.
Of course these churches teach hate as do the parents of these kids. If there is a god and a heaven and a he11, I think we all know where these folks end up.
"I think it's blown out of proportion, you know," said Robert Kirby, That's right Robert, you blow.
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The pastor is Rev. Jeff Sangl. He email is: pastorsangl@apostolictruthtabernacle.net
Phone: 812-662-8224
Web Site: http://www.apostolictruthtabernacle.net/home
Address is:
1114 W. Westridge Pkwy
Greensburg, IN 47240
Good Luck!
why does anyone refer to these people as reverend?
Thank you. I just sent him a little "love note".............. hee hee!
To the Editor: "... congregants arrived to the church..." When will CNN edit these "reports" before they appear here? And to Mr. Kirby who claims "they love everybody," you are sadly mistaken.
Sarah Palin is so stupid she thinks you need a psssport to have breakfast at IHOP.
hmm...can you say irrelevant?
I suspect you'd be hard-pressed to locate a tooth among the parishioners of this "church".
If the toothbrush had been invented anywhere but in the south it would've been called a teethbrush.
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I think I would respect all these people busted by the viral outbreak just a little more if they woud just stick to thier guns. Don't bother apologizing, you said it. Did you mean it or not?
I agree. Not sure what's more obnoxious–what they said or their lying about it. Both acts should send them to h*ll in a handbasket.
Okay, we've gone through the hate thing. It's bad. Especially from a kid. But, who else other than me is also bothered by the use of the word "ain't"? When are we going to teach the young people in the world that education is important. I believe that pushing for righteous education can also benefit in teaching about hate, and why it's a bad thing. Let's start with the basics. Grammar. I mean, technically the kid used a double negative, so, you know... they will go to heaven, so technically they aren't preaching hate. See? Education. Important.
That's a semantic mind-f.uck right there.