June 4th, 2012
05:43 PM ET

We don't teach hate, says church where anti-homosexual song filmed

By Ismael Estrada, CNN

Greensburg, Indiana (CNN) - About 20 protesters gathered on Sunday outside the Apostolic Truth Tabernacle here to voice opposition to a viral online video that was taped in the church and shows a young child singing song with lyrics that offer a harsh message for homosexuals.

The video, which surfaced on YouTube last week, shows a child in front of the congregation, singing "I know that God is right, and somebody's wrong... ain't no homo going to make it to heaven."

The congregation erupts in applause at those lines, which the unidentified boy repeats as the pastor looks on.

At another point in the video a voice is heard shouting,"That’s my boy."

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In the first Sunday service since the video surfaced, congregants arrived to the church as protesters jeered them over the video.

A church leader, who would not give his name, told CNN that journalists were not allowed inside the church and declined to offer anyone from church leadership to comment on the video.

The leader said that he needed to be cautious about letting outsiders into the church because it had received threats over the video and asked CNN to leave the premises.

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The local sheriff's office said the church had not reported any verifiable threats.

No one answered the door at the home of Jeff Sangl, the church's pastor.

The video of the singing boy was the latest in a string of viral anti-gay videos that have surfaced from independent churches.  Those videos have been resoundingly condemned by religious leaders, even by conservatives who believe homosexual sex is a sin.

The Apostolic Truth Tabernacle posted a statement on its website that says in part: "The Pastor and members of Apostolic Truth Tabernacle do not condone, teach, or practice hate of any person for any reason.”

The pastor's son, Josh Sangl, told CNN his father was away on vacation and that there was much more to the video than we were being told, though he wouldn’t elaborate.

The majority of the church members wouldn’t comment about the controversy or respond to questions about the parents of the young boy.

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"I think it's blown out of proportion, you know," said Robert Kirby, who is not a church member but was attending Sunday's church service in support of his daughter, who teaches Sunday School there. "They love everybody.

"They don't love sin though," he said. "It's all in the Bible."

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Filed under: Belief • Church • Homosexuality

soundoff (3,151 Responses)
  1. TJ NYC

    I don't understand why everyone is so upset. Doesn't the kid's use of the double negative imply that he and the congregation think that all gay people will go to heaven?

    June 5, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • Not All Docs Play Golf

      That would require that they understand what a double negative is. Like, "ain't no guy named Noah ever built no ark."

      June 5, 2012 at 11:54 am |
  2. Floyd from Ilinois

    Deny it all you want, you're preaching hate.

    June 5, 2012 at 11:50 am |
  3. JusDav

    "They don't love sin though," he said. "It's all in the Bible."

    Got to love them bible thumpers.. Yes, it is all in the bible.

    Cant quote scriptures, but somewhere it says something like.

    the angles came upon Mary and said "behold, you are with child" " it is the child of god" or something similar.

    Well, I do not know everything, but "behold" means "new information"
    so.. until the angels spoke to Mary, she did not know she was "with child". (that is my understanding at least, maybe I am wrong)

    If you impregnate someone without their knowledge / consent.. doesn’t that make you a rapist?

    I would not have a problem with the story if it started... and the angels came onto Mary and said.. "Hey babe, god thinks you’re hot, wanna have his kid” and THEN became pregnant...... 🙂

    wow, gonna catch flack for this one. but.. hey... "it is all in the bible"....


    June 5, 2012 at 11:50 am |
  4. Bibletruth

    This site is very heavily censored it seems...I have posted several blogs that did not get posted...I must not be aware of certain words which are forbidden

    June 5, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      There are certain words that a filter catches. You cant, for example, post the word consti.tution without putting the period in where the word t.it is. Look for things like that.

      June 5, 2012 at 11:50 am |
    • J.W

      Or words within words such as the t.i.t in consti.ituation

      June 5, 2012 at 11:50 am |
    • Not All Docs Play Golf

      Try reading a book other than the Bible sometime. You might just open your mind up.

      June 5, 2012 at 11:52 am |
    • LOL Religion

      Nobody is interested in your blog spam.

      June 5, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
  5. Antione

    Many say they go to church but they don't read or understand the bible .. it can't be changed and you can't add to it or take away from it ... so when it tells you that if a man lay down with another man God will not know them during judgement .. because they are taking away the duty of the woman .. look around look at the weather look at family values America has turned it's back against GOD!!! ... Changing the law's so two men and two females can get married in a sin.

    June 5, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • Voice of Reason

      In your world of nonsense it is probably a sin. Unfortunately for you our reality will win out over your nonsense and socially outdated beliefs.

      June 5, 2012 at 11:48 am |
    • Antione

      This country don't care about Gay people all they want is their vote ...

      June 5, 2012 at 11:52 am |
    • Studly

      I take it you do not eat pork.

      June 5, 2012 at 11:53 am |
    • Chase

      It also says I can't eat shellfish.

      June 5, 2012 at 11:54 am |
    • Wes Scott

      I prefer to spend eternity in hell rather that in some place like Sunday School among bigots and hate-filled idiots. While I am not gay it is not my place to judge others.

      June 5, 2012 at 12:06 pm |
  6. Carol Round

    As Christ followers, it is not our place to judge others. God is the only One allowed to judge. And, we are all sinners. If more people would spend time each morning with God, studying His word and in prayer, they would realize that it is about a relationship with God and not about man-made religion. This is why so many people get turned off to church. While I attend on a regular basis to worship God, share fellowship, and to grow in my faith, I don't leave God behind when I walk out the church doors. We must give Him the first fruits of our day, every day.

    Carol Round

    June 5, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • Voice of Reason

      Keep this nonsense to yourself.

      June 5, 2012 at 11:50 am |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      But isnt it also your place to hold up the commandments of the bible?

      June 5, 2012 at 11:50 am |
  7. WASP

    @turnaway: yes i'm atheist and i quote scripture. i do so as it is your faith that is being used to teach a young children about how to judge and condemn others for being different. having a child stand up and sing a song about " ain't no h0m0s getting into heaven" is just disgusting and these folks are using scripture to say it is ok for them to do so.........well scripture also saids they can't do such actions. everytime someone uses something meant for good to hurt others that same weapon they chose can be turned on them far quicker.

    In the Book of Proverbs (Mishlai), King Solomon stated that the Lord specifically regards "six things the Lord hateth, and the seventh His soul detesteth." namely"
    1.A proud look.
    2.A lying tongue.
    3.Hands that shed innocent blood.
    4.A heart that devises wicked plots.
    5.Feet that are swift to run into mischief.
    6.A deceitful witness that uttereth lies.
    7.Him that soweth discord among brethren.

    so you can try the whole "because you're an atheist card" if you like, and yes i don't buy into religion as i once was taught....................but you do so follow all of the bible or not at all otherwise you're a hypocrite and will have a nice warm place in your after-life. 🙂

    June 5, 2012 at 11:44 am |
    • chefdugan

      Sounds like a great list of ideas to try out when you want to to have some fun!

      June 5, 2012 at 11:47 am |
  8. Paramad

    Brainwashing the youth is one of the better ways to perpetuate dogma, an ideology. or a campaign of repression. This type of thing is possible in any congregation anywhere in the U.S. I grew up in a very polite nice group of christians but I still came away with the feeling if "bad" things happened to people who did not believe like us or act like us there was a tacit approval, it was god's punishment. According to some groups it's okay to help god along in the punishment aspect.

    June 5, 2012 at 11:44 am |
  9. Miss Demeanor

    "we don't teach hate" .... well even if that's technically true (oh let's say because hatred is already inbred in the kind of members we attract and the cult just reinforces it) , the end result is the same, now isn't it...
    You know the vine by the fruit it produces. That church sure isn't teaching love.

    June 5, 2012 at 11:43 am |
  10. Acad Smith

    Gluttony is also a sin in the bible....looks like some of these church members ought to focus on their own sins before making up songs about others'.

    June 5, 2012 at 11:42 am |
    • T. Foss

      That's funny! I said the same thing on Sunday morning. BTW, I am not the skinniest thing either. Does that mean God doesn't love me because I'm fat? Give me a break... I guess all fat people ain't going to heaven either. Oh, no smokers, drinkers, liers, cheaters, wife/kid beaters. Wait a minute, than nobody would be there...right?

      June 5, 2012 at 11:47 am |
    • Evangelical

      Yes, but ho-mos-exuality is an abomination.

      June 5, 2012 at 11:49 am |
  11. Smitty

    If everyone at this church is going to heaven, then I can't wait to go to hell.

    June 5, 2012 at 11:41 am |
  12. NObama12

    Imagine the hate Obama learned from sitting in Wright's church all those years.

    June 5, 2012 at 11:40 am |
    • palintwit

      Imagine what an idiot you are.

      June 5, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • Jim8

      Funny that you would say that, since he seems to approve of gay marriage.

      I think you display some hate from watching Fox News all these years.

      June 5, 2012 at 11:51 am |
  13. LOL Religion

    Love the Christian, hate their ridiculous, antiquated, bigoted religion.

    June 5, 2012 at 11:39 am |
    • Brian

      It seems to me that (a) churches can preach whatever they will, and (b) that their freedom of expression does not include freedom FROM criticism by those who find those preachings offensive. But more importantly, why should American taxpayers be forced to subsidize organizations that preach hatred and bigotry? Or anything at all? Why should non believers be forced to subsidize these organizations through tax exemptions, the transfer of public funds (like educational funds and the like)? That's the real scandal!

      June 5, 2012 at 11:47 am |
  14. Henry

    You f-i-l-t-h-y h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-i-c-a-l s-o-d-o-m-i-t-e-s, the truth is that public schools across America have been perverting innocent children for years by teaching them that h-o-m-o-s-e-x-u-a-l-i-t-y is another normal lifestyle.

    June 5, 2012 at 11:38 am |
    • Voice of Reason

      How in the world do you live with yourself in a non-reality?

      June 5, 2012 at 11:40 am |
    • Excitizen

      Henry – check your bible for this one: thou shall not judge. You are the hypocrit – take a look in the mirror and stop supporting child abuse by teaching children to hate those who are different. Try reading your bible and teach what your jesus christ actaully said on the subject...oh, that would be nothing!!!! You are the definition of hypocricy!

      June 5, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
  15. Alex

    I have no problem with God, it's his fan club I can't stand.

    June 5, 2012 at 11:38 am |
    • S.R

      LOL, could not agree more....hilarious!!!

      June 5, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • Nate

      Yep, and if these guys read the bible they would see that they are just as self righteous and close-minded as the guys who killed their Savior.

      June 5, 2012 at 11:48 am |
  16. sup

    It's time to ban religion.

    June 5, 2012 at 11:34 am |
    • Mott_the_Hoople

      Let me get this straight: you want to ban a certain class from their ideas, just because their ideas conflict with your ideals. You are no better than them.

      June 5, 2012 at 11:39 am |
    • Miss Demeanor

      You're painting all religions with the same brush. This church, like Westboro Baptist and their slavery-promoting vile predecessors are cults that teach hatred. There are many legitimate Christian churches to choose from. It's really a good thing that vile churches like these expose themselves ...

      June 5, 2012 at 11:47 am |
    • James

      For you to say it is time to ban religion based on one religions outlook is a pretty stupid stetement, I hope you tolerate heat well!

      June 5, 2012 at 11:47 am |
    • seebs

      Problem: People are trying to ban things they dislike. Solution: Ban something you dislike.

      June 5, 2012 at 11:50 am |
    • Nate

      ROFL James. I hope that was a joke, cus it's pretty funny.

      June 5, 2012 at 11:50 am |
    • Voice of Reason

      "For you to say it is time to ban religion based on one religions outlook is a pretty stupid stetement, I hope you tolerate heat well!"

      I think the stupid statement here is the tolerating the heat statement, don't you?

      June 5, 2012 at 11:53 am |
  17. COGowan

    There's video proof that you don't just teach hate, you preach hate. But relax: most Christians do, so you're not alone.

    June 5, 2012 at 11:34 am |
  18. seebs

    If they don't teach hate, where'd the kid learn it, then?

    June 5, 2012 at 11:32 am |
  19. Melodykari78

    Someone from the church had to actually post this on the web.

    June 5, 2012 at 11:32 am |
    • Madtown

      Yeah, could be they're just looking for publicity. A lot of these videos coming out recently. That's the age we live in, the immediacy of viral publicity. Couple that with the long-held notion that "no publicity is bad publicity", and maybe you get these fools hoping to bring some attention to themselves. The Kardashian Method.

      June 5, 2012 at 11:38 am |
  20. anonymous

    If people took power away from the churches and religion, and just started having the belief to be good to your fellow man, then there wouldn't be so much hate in this world. Religion has completely distorted how people think and feel.

    June 5, 2012 at 11:31 am |
    • jim

      The churches didn't invent hate, they just use it to their advantage.

      June 5, 2012 at 11:35 am |
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