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June 4th, 2012
05:43 PM ET
We don't teach hate, says church where anti-homosexual song filmedBy Ismael Estrada, CNN Greensburg, Indiana (CNN) - About 20 protesters gathered on Sunday outside the Apostolic Truth Tabernacle here to voice opposition to a viral online video that was taped in the church and shows a young child singing song with lyrics that offer a harsh message for homosexuals. The video, which surfaced on YouTube last week, shows a child in front of the congregation, singing "I know that God is right, and somebody's wrong... ain't no homo going to make it to heaven." The congregation erupts in applause at those lines, which the unidentified boy repeats as the pastor looks on. At another point in the video a voice is heard shouting,"That’s my boy." CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories In the first Sunday service since the video surfaced, congregants arrived to the church as protesters jeered them over the video. A church leader, who would not give his name, told CNN that journalists were not allowed inside the church and declined to offer anyone from church leadership to comment on the video. The leader said that he needed to be cautious about letting outsiders into the church because it had received threats over the video and asked CNN to leave the premises. Church videos with harsh words for gays go viral online The local sheriff's office said the church had not reported any verifiable threats. No one answered the door at the home of Jeff Sangl, the church's pastor. The video of the singing boy was the latest in a string of viral anti-gay videos that have surfaced from independent churches. Those videos have been resoundingly condemned by religious leaders, even by conservatives who believe homosexual sex is a sin. The Apostolic Truth Tabernacle posted a statement on its website that says in part: "The Pastor and members of Apostolic Truth Tabernacle do not condone, teach, or practice hate of any person for any reason.” The pastor's son, Josh Sangl, told CNN his father was away on vacation and that there was much more to the video than we were being told, though he wouldn’t elaborate. The majority of the church members wouldn’t comment about the controversy or respond to questions about the parents of the young boy. Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter "I think it's blown out of proportion, you know," said Robert Kirby, who is not a church member but was attending Sunday's church service in support of his daughter, who teaches Sunday School there. "They love everybody. "They don't love sin though," he said. "It's all in the Bible." soundoff (3,151 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 Next »
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People who preach hate just end up being hateful people. It's tough to see Jesus associating with such people except to heal them.
@Nilkinggary
You must not be very familiar with the teachings of Jesus. Let me refresh your memory:
"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn 'a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law–a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.' Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me."
That doesn't sound all that loving to me. Did you even bother to read the Bible?
At 33, Jesus still wasn't married, preached love and hung out with the same 12 guys all the time.
Guess he could have been like Socrates and hung out with Plato wearing togas. Odd how we don't seem to care about his $exual orientation.
Heck...odd that you seem focused on a 2000 year ago person's $exual orientation.
If I could part the red sea, I could have stopped the mass slaughter of innocents in the last couple of recent tsunamis. Now why didn't I?
I don't know..plz tell us o finite, ignorant and insignificant human why. You seem to imply that you know.
If you like kings so much, why don't you emigrate to a country that has a monarchy.
Like all other religions, they teach hypocrisy...
Heaven is the ultimate in totalitarian socialism. So why do so many "conservatives" want to end up there?
Because they want everything handed to them for free.
Because they do not want to be held accountable for anything they do.
Because they think they are better than other people for no good reason at all.
Because they are not actually "conservative" as this would mean having to think in order to actually conserve anything.
Because they love to hate and hate to love.
Because their fake bible can be interpreted whatever way each person wants.
Because they really are not all that intelligent and need to be told what to think.
God loves all of His children, gay and straight.
Yes, but does Jesus and his apostles?
Reasonably – Jesus never spoke about h o m o s e x u a l i t y, but I believe that he loved all of us.
Considering Jesus preached peace and to love your neighbor, of course. Those who preach violence against another being aren't Christians. They aren't doing the work of Jesus or God. You can't be truly Christian and preach violence and hatred.
Considering the demonstrable fact that there is no god and no evidence of one even in how people act, it really doesn't matter a bit what you say your god does. There is no god.
Whatever you imagine about him is nothing but your imagination.
My imaginary friend loves everyone too...(wink wink)...he must be friends with YOUR imaginary friend! How about that!
He said, "It's Not Gay. It's Not Straight. It's Just Grrreat!" (caps are mine)
Way to go CNN....ya found some more fools to make all christians look bad....Christianity being tried in the media by CNN....interesting, unbalanced, biased, one sided, unfair, and just plain stupid
It's you good christians that give cover to the wackos.
If some Christians weren't being stupid, CNN would have nothing to report on.
Only a fool would condemn an entire group that consists of hundreds of millions by the actions of the minority.
Don't worry...I there are enough anti-religious ppl on here to fill that fool quota I bet.
Explain Santorum then? Christian sharia law narrowly averted.
@Rick- they could focus on the stupid atheists, enough of those to go around on here.
@Reasonably- oh plz....he never stood a chance of winning. My gosh how the Left makes it seem like it was some kind of narrow miss. Bunch of chicken littles.
Ecclesiastes 7:17
You know something that atheists dont, making them fools?
If there are hundreds of millions of Christian, there must be hundreds of billions of dead non-christians, already occupying heaven. So as a minority, will god pay much attention to them?
@OOO- Are you denying there are stupid atheists?
@tony- unlike many a finite miniscule atheist on here, I do not to presume what God may take attention of.
Other quotes from Ecclesiastes: Blessed art thou, O land, when thy king is the son of Nobles. ...Money answereth all things.. . . Curse not the rich. . . Ecclesiastes 7:17 must be a wall street banker fan.
I noticed that a church preaches hate,
you say nothing about the hate, but bash CNN for covering it.
So i guess the hate would go away if CNN stops reporting it ?
How your mind gets twisted defending the indefensible.
Our cult hates non-members more than your cult and we'll sing to prove it!
No collection plates, of course no god. That seems a little like the opposite of the "all-powerful" claims.
I always wondered why an all-powerful being would needed money...
@Rick- if you knew the text...you would know that God doesn't. But hey..keep blaming God for what the Church does.
"The profession of shaman has many advantages. It offers high status with a safe livelihood free of work in the dreary, sweaty sense. In most societies it offers legal privileges and immunities not granted to other men. But it is hard to see how a man who has been given a mandate from on High to spread tidings of joy to all mankind can be seriously interested in taking up a collection to pay his salary; it causes one to suspect that the shaman is on the moral level of any other con man. But it is a lovely work if you can stomach it."
– Robert Heinlein
i just h a t e sin and gays are sinners, i teach to h a t e sin of course.
TOTONACAMR – Since you hate gays because they are sinners, do you hate yourself because you, like all humans, are a sinner?
actually gays commit capital sin, every sin has a degree the worse is being gay,
TOTONACAMR – 1 John 3:15: (NIV) Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him.
*** TOTONACAMR
actually gays commit capital sin, every sin has a degree the worse is being gay,
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Yet, the bible preaches that all sin is equal.
Another hypocrit., doesnt even read his own book.
Tax all income, just like any other business.
agree
I just googled this : How much is the Vatican worth ?
Banker best guess is between $10 and $15 Billion.
Vaticans Italian stockholding alone is worth $1.6 billion.
They get tax free status but can trade on the stock market,
while you live in poverty.
Jesus would be proud, huh ?
How cute. Brainwashing in action. I hope that kid grows up and gets educated, look back on this video, and gets really angry at his Dad for said brainwashing.
Religious indoctrination of the young is Child Abuse disguised in story and song, for it refuses man's finest accomplishment, logic and rationality. Logic and rationality have brought us GPS, Google Earth, the Internet, and the freedom to denounce organized religion for the sham that it is. Humanity has discovered that it is basically good, and not the horror that we have been brainwashed to "believe" was true. Start Philosophy classes for the young, and watch the world blossom. The future will thank us.
Why is anyone surprised? The Christian search has preached hate for centuries. And not just preached. They are more than willing to kill you for self perpetuation.
"They love everybody. "They don't love sin though,"
That may be, but the song wasn't speaking out against any sin, it was speaking out against a particular type of person. This is hate speech.
Here's the difference. I could say that I think Christians should lay off the birth control subject, and dispute what they have to say on the subject.
Or, I could say that Christians are horrid humans that need to be tortured and imprisoned forever for speaking out against birth control as they are sick, disgusting people.
The first is commenting on what we disagree on, the second is hate speech. What they are teaching their children to sing is hate.
The other day an atheist friend of mine told me that a scientific study suggested that g ay couples should only be allowed to adopt children of the opposite se x as a precaution against the possibility of incest.
Anybody here heard more about this?
Nope. Sounds like you're making it up, though, because it sounds preposterous.
b4bigbang – H o m o s e x u a l i t y and pedophilia are 2 VERY different things. According to the American Psychological Association, "There is no evidence to suggest that h o m o s e x u a l s or b i s e x u a l s molest children at a higher rate than h e t e r o s e x u a l s."
The other day a christian friend of mine told me a scientific study found that religions cause people to forego logic and reason for something written in a book and actually hate people that otherwise are just getting on with their lives simply because they don't believe what christians believe. Have you heard more about that?
Time to burn all Bibles
Well, yes, they do teach hate. Indiana hicks. Ain't they proud now?
Felt left out after what North carolina did.
More haters in the pew is more money in the plate.
Any faith based religious denomination preaches some kind of hatred in one form or another. Just look back through history and discover how many conflicts were started by faith based hatred and racism. Any diety based religion.
whatever be the case, i would like to stone gays.
TOTONACAMR – Your hate is sad.
Sorry, Toto, nobody gives a dang what you think. Sorry we don't rise to your taunt.
Come to Orlando so I can meet with you. You will realize that you have been in a fight when I, a gay man, whps the living S**t out of you!!!!
Toto, the desire to hurt another person in the name of God is called...? ...?...Yes! Religion! You win the booby prize for the most telling post of the day!!!
You should seek psychiatric help before you end up hurting or killing some innocent gay person and end up living the rest of your life in jail! Seriously!
Yet another branch of the Church of Perpetual Hatred for Anyone Who Ain't Like Us is heard from.