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June 4th, 2012
05:43 PM ET
We don't teach hate, says church where anti-homosexual song filmedBy Ismael Estrada, CNN Greensburg, Indiana (CNN) - About 20 protesters gathered on Sunday outside the Apostolic Truth Tabernacle here to voice opposition to a viral online video that was taped in the church and shows a young child singing song with lyrics that offer a harsh message for homosexuals. The video, which surfaced on YouTube last week, shows a child in front of the congregation, singing "I know that God is right, and somebody's wrong... ain't no homo going to make it to heaven." The congregation erupts in applause at those lines, which the unidentified boy repeats as the pastor looks on. At another point in the video a voice is heard shouting,"That’s my boy." CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories In the first Sunday service since the video surfaced, congregants arrived to the church as protesters jeered them over the video. A church leader, who would not give his name, told CNN that journalists were not allowed inside the church and declined to offer anyone from church leadership to comment on the video. The leader said that he needed to be cautious about letting outsiders into the church because it had received threats over the video and asked CNN to leave the premises. Church videos with harsh words for gays go viral online The local sheriff's office said the church had not reported any verifiable threats. No one answered the door at the home of Jeff Sangl, the church's pastor. The video of the singing boy was the latest in a string of viral anti-gay videos that have surfaced from independent churches. Those videos have been resoundingly condemned by religious leaders, even by conservatives who believe homosexual sex is a sin. The Apostolic Truth Tabernacle posted a statement on its website that says in part: "The Pastor and members of Apostolic Truth Tabernacle do not condone, teach, or practice hate of any person for any reason.” The pastor's son, Josh Sangl, told CNN his father was away on vacation and that there was much more to the video than we were being told, though he wouldn’t elaborate. The majority of the church members wouldn’t comment about the controversy or respond to questions about the parents of the young boy. Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter "I think it's blown out of proportion, you know," said Robert Kirby, who is not a church member but was attending Sunday's church service in support of his daughter, who teaches Sunday School there. "They love everybody. "They don't love sin though," he said. "It's all in the Bible." soundoff (3,151 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 Next »
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It's true gays don't go to heaven, no one does. It doesn't exist.
I get it, you've seen the whole universe and know all there is to know. You must be God! All hail Jay!
True.
nobody knows for sure, that is why its called faith
They keep saying that EXACT same thing. WHY won't anyone listen to them? HELLO, It's NOT hate if we say it or act it out; it's the heathens who are the only ones even capable of such things! SURE. Not havin' it, not buying that crap. It's eternally disgusting.
say what?
"We don't teach hate"
They also dont teach evolution, geology or common sense
That's the Fundie movement for ya.
Ok,read that bible of yours, Jesus taught love, care, share, care for those who are different than you, he loved those who were different than him, he hung out w/ sinners, cared for them and prayed with them. He went to all kinds of people and all kinds of places to show love and care. To hate is unChrist like. Read what Jesus did, and plz act more like him if you profess to be "Christians", he is a loving Lord God, no hate, - judgement is left up to his heavenly Father, not us, show love and compassion and be "Christlike". Message for all Christians," it's all so simple " , Jesus' teachings, love on another!!!
slickteigkcmo – Well said!
thats one way to look at it
Thet Jesus wuz a hater who only wanted communism to work and the priests didn't like that or his claim to be god so they done killed him and he ain't comin back, see?
Solomon had 700 wives! Anybody ever figure out where Adam and Eve's grandchildren came from? Maybe they just pick out the parts of the Bible that suits their needs to hate. I don't understand which preachings of Jesus taught hate and judgement.
Jesus did some serious hatin' on thet olive tree, pharisees, and a whole lotta other folk. Made threats agin'em and never came back after gettin' hisself caught by the priests he was hatin' on. Not a real sharp stick but then he thought he was god, too.
its their own interpretation of the bible, who cares who these people think will go to heaven or not.
I redefined what Fat is, to me its anyone over 500 pounds so im skinny again at 350
What a poor analogy. I would suppose you are poor, weighing that much, unless you play for the NFL.
Rick James your not the brightest light on the tree are you
"YOU'RE", Pong, ya stupid git.
Good example of bringing them up young and dumb, just the way religion likes it
ignorance + convenient enemy = control.
Hi Bob, I totally agree with you on this one. YEP! I was raised as a young person this very same denomination. It almost ruined me, however I did manage to escape after I become an adult. It is very sad.
Who cares! There has to be something more important in peoples lives than to care about this stupid crap!
i love it. this kind of hate is a commercial for atheism/humanism.
Humanism, an atheistic philosophy offers a much more ethical way to live than that offered by the bible/christianity. i challenge any christian to show differently.
People have been bullied to the point of suicide over this "stupid crap"
it's easily decades past time for the gay bashing to stop.
Its not gay bashing if it is just your belief that gays do not go to heaven. Quit being overly sensitive to everything!
Lol, they don't understand. You guys will be like West Bro Baptist Church or whatever it was called. They dramatically failed. The shirts? Let's turn Straight... lol, how about using that money to pay and a phycologist? You need it.
It's their belief Anderson. Like you a lot but you can't go heavy and make every religion accept everything you want.
Disgusting=and not worth much of a comment
They can say that that they don't condone "hate". That's because they will define "hate" in their own terms – not in the terms of society. All cults do that. They define their own words in order to emphasize the "in-group" and delineate the "out-group". Definitions are the first casualty of any Fundamentalist religion (Christian, Muslim, or Jewish) and cult.
every single religion on earth is a cult. when a cult is accepted by society, it's called a religion. when there are no more cult members to worship said religion, it becomes a mythology.
christianity went from step 1 to step 2, only one step left...
LOL so you atheists think that Gay people are not nasty?! Seriously you must be sick in head!
step into 2012, sally.
Why do you think gay people are "nasty"?
Yes, we are sick in the head.... and we want YOU!!!!!!
Does it matter if you think it's nasty or not? Just because you think it is doesn't justify hate speech and advocating violence.
Oh, and Sally, dear? Why would you think that atheists are alone in accepting gays?
What do people lose if adults that love each other are allow to legally marry? I don't get it.
@Sally, I have absolutely ZERO problem with gay people. And check this out, I also don't have a problem with minorities, Muslims, Jews, etc... The only people I have a problem with are people like you.
It harms noone Rick and can only benefit the community and society.
JWT, I get it. What I don't get is why they don't get it.
I don't care what the church says now....when that kid was applauded and praised with the, "that's my boy" line, and no one stepped up and condemned it right there on the spot, the church was agreeable to what was being said. No doubt about it.
so
@ bobby jo
Great comeback. What's next, I know you are but what am I?
Well, I guess its not hateful if they redefine in their minds what they view as hateful. Unfortunately, words have actual meanings. They hate gays.
I think CNN doesn't like me. I think CNN thinks I'm foul. I think CNN thinks I'm profane. I think CNN thinks I put discourteous comments in the comment section like "Put that pénis in your hairy á´s´shóle" (from 'Tinas'). CNN? I don't write things like this. I don't express things like this. I'm too old and civil to write things like this. But when I write things like "Horse Puckey" it doesn't get posted. Geez. Go figure. Maybe I should say "Horse Doo-Doo" or "Horse Feces" or "Horse Dung" or "Horse Excrement". I certainly wouldn't say "Horse ****". That would be prohibited. But, when I post a comment that basically disagrees with a church that says that they don't teach hate, I get booted. I've read almost all of the comments on this article and I've come to the conclusion that quite a number of those who have posted should only be let out on the weekends to play with the dull Crayolas.
It may be something different which is getting your post filtered. Try to write the word "Consti tution" for example. Because is has the word "ti t" embedded in it, then your post will be banned.
Videos such as this one make me very happy that our founding fathers had the forsight not to make this a Theocracy and make our Consti tution based on a religious text.
It seems the only ideals being pushed by religious people lately is hatred and intollerance. Jesus would be proud.
This church must hate all sinners, what about adulty, etc.
the church is very selective in what biblical rules/laws they follow.
bible says:
kill all g.ays (10% of the country)
kill all non-virgin brides (98% of women in this country)
kill everyone that works the weekend (50% of the country)
kill disobedient children (50% of kids?)
how many does that leave alive?
Christianity is going away. slowly but surely. prejudicial views like these are pushing religion into the dark corner where it belongs. bye bye!
You wish. It's going to get tough and Christians will be hated. But the Lord Jesus will return and slay the evil-doers and cast them into the lake of fire.
Noooo – not the lake of fire! It's worse than the comfy chair!
Evangelical: if Jesus does actually return and 'slay all the evil-doers and cast them into the lake of fire', then you hatemongers might just get the surprise of your life.
evangelical, you sound like a 12 year old from sunday school doing his best to give an answer.
@Evangelical, dude, just shut your hole. Stay in school. The world actually isn't as scary a place as you people make it out to be. Try enjoying life while you're still alive.
skarphace put it better than I could've. Evangelical, get a clue.
You are wrong, only the truth will set you free.
The prophesy is true as you are indeed proving.
Va.gue prophecies without a timeline or any real details can be used to apply to almost any point in time. Sooo convincing lol.
I was thinking the same thing skar. Not that I believe in any of it but it might just be worth it to be wrong and see that happen for sure.
I saw the video. Revolting. A little child singing such a thing.
The "congregation" was more like patrons at a sports bar than that of a church.